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Kilgore
11-04-2008, 04:17 PM
Bin Laden's publicist gets life in prison



MIAMI (Reuters) - A U.S. military tribunal at Guantanamo sentenced Osama bin Laden's media secretary to life in prison on Monday after convicting him of conspiring with al Qaeda, soliciting murder and providing material support for terrorism.
Yemeni prisoner Ali Hamza al Bahlul was the second man to be convicted by a jury in the war crimes court at the U.S. naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
The jury of nine U.S. military officers reached their verdict on Friday after a weeklong trial in which the defendant and his lawyer refused to participate,
Bahlul, who is about 39, broke his silence at his sentencing hearing and delivered a speech praising bin Laden and predicting his own conviction would strengthen al Qaeda's fight against the United States, a military officer involved in the trial said.
Bahlul waved a paper airplane and read the jurors a poem he had written in praise of the September 11 attacks, the officer said.
FBI interrogators testified that Bahlul scripted the videotaped wills of two September 11 hijackers and boasted of making a two-hour al Qaeda commercial designed to recruit suicide bombers.
The recruitment video was filled with bloody images of violence against Muslims and portrayed the attack on the USS Cole as part of "The Solution." It praised the suicide bombers who drove a boat full of explosives into the side of the USS Cole in the Yemeni port of Aden in 2000, killing 17 American sailors.
Jurors agreed the recruitment video was a solicitation to commit murder.
UNCHALLENGED
The government's evidence in the special tribunal went unchallenged during the trial. Bahlul was not allowed to act as his own attorney and tried to fire the U.S. military lawyer he considers an enemy. The lawyer, Air Force Maj. David Frakt, said it "goes against all my training and instincts," but honored Bahlul's request not to put on any defense or question witnesses.
He sat mutely as an FBI agent who interrogated Bahlul in early 2002 at Camp X-Ray, the chain-link cages where Guantanamo captives were held for the first four months of the detention operation, described it as a "very comfortable" place where no one abused or even raised his voice at a detainee.
Bahlul was not accused of taking part in attacks or of having advanced knowledge of any. But jurors agreed he joined al Qaeda in Afghanistan in 1999, acted as bin Laden's media director until his capture in late 2001, and tried unsuccessfully to set up a satellite link so the al Qaeda leader could watch live news coverage as the September 11 attacks were carried out.
Bahlul, one of about 255 men still held at Guantanamo, is only the second to receive a full trial in the tribunals created by the Bush administration to prosecute foreign captives on terrorism charges outside the regular U.S. and military courts. One other captive avoided trial by pleading guilty.
Only one more trial is scheduled before U.S. President George W. Bush leaves office in January, a case against a young Afghan accused of throwing a grenade that wounded two U.S. soldiers and their interpreter.
A Guantanamo judge threw out key prosecution evidence in that case last week, ruling defendant Mohammed Jawad's confession to Afghan police had been obtained through torture. The judge is still considering a defense request to drop the charges entirely.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE49R5OZ20081103
I know there is a few Vonnegut fans out there, this screams Mother Night. Master mind, nope. VHS camera holder, yep. Punishment doesn't fit the crime in this case. I'm not saying the guy gets off with nothing, but life? Seems a bit extreme.

Limp
11-04-2008, 04:18 PM
I know there is a few Vonnegut fans out there, this screams Mother Night. Master mind, nope. VHS camera holder, yep. Punishment doesn't fit the crime in this case. I'm not saying the guy gets off with nothing, but life? Seems a bit extreme.
You're one of them. GTFO TERRORIST!

Friday
11-05-2008, 04:56 PM
I disagree Kilgore, life is not too harsh. All supporters of Bin Laden should be killed because if they had the chance, they would kill you and anyone else that you care for.

One bullet in the back of his head is much cheaper than 80 years in jail!

noahsdove
11-05-2008, 09:34 PM
Better not let the dumb ass rednecks out there who think Obama is a terrorist get a hold of this video. Oh wait, they only watch Springer and Dr. Phil.

tockit
11-06-2008, 08:00 PM
Obama will probably pardon this guy, right after he shuts down Gitmo!

Genius
11-06-2008, 08:12 PM
Obama will probably pardon this guy, right after he shuts down Gitmo!
Do you really believe that?

Lately I've been trying to get a feel for how much of this anti-Obama nonsense is disdain for Democrats, or disdain for Obama. So I would like to know what would make you say something so blatantly fucking stupid about someone who won't even take office for two months.

Morfin
11-07-2008, 08:06 AM
Obama will probably pardon this guy, right after he shuts down Gitmo!

It is very easy to throw out a comment like this. The difference between a troll post and an intelligent post is that one is just a statement designed to incite feelings and the other consists of facts and logical arguments.

Do you have any basis in fact that Obama would pardon someone who assisted bin Laden in making a recruiting video? Do you have any basis in fact that Obama would pardon anyone convicted in this manner?

If your argument is premised on a statement such as "He's a liberal," or "He was the most liberal Senator," your argument still falls short, unless you can connect that liberalness to a desire to pardon someone convicted in a military court, someone provided with an attorney and full criminal rights.

If you have an argument based in fact, let's hear it. If you don't have such an argument and merely want to continue to shout "HE'S A LIBERAL!!!!111!1" until you're hoarse, do us all a favor and STFU.

Oggie
11-07-2008, 08:09 AM
Morfowned.

Night Hawk
11-07-2008, 09:10 AM
Obama will probably pardon this guy, right after he shuts down Gitmo!

GO DIE! NOOB! We dont need any more retards here at GMF, we already have Spanky and Mongo!

tockit
11-10-2008, 01:50 PM
It's started already. Obama's gonna take the worst terrorists we have captured, and put them on trial like OJ Simpson !!!

Obama Planning U.S. Trials for Gitmo Prisoners

Monday, November 10, 2008 11:30 AM

WASHINGTON —

President-elect Obama's advisers are quietly crafting a proposal to ship dozens, if not hundreds, of imprisoned terrorism suspects to the United States to face criminal trials, a plan that would make good on his promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison but could require creation of a controversial new system of justice.


He has offered few details on what he planned to do once the facility is closed.


Under plans being put together in Obama's camp, some detainees would be released and many others would be prosecuted in U.S. criminal courts.


A third group of detainees — the ones whose cases are most entangled in highly classified information — might have to go before a new court designed especially to handle sensitive national security cases, according to advisers and Democrats involved in the talks.

Advisers participating directly in the planning spoke on condition of anonymity because the plans aren't final.

Kerjack
11-10-2008, 01:53 PM
Yeah fuck evidence!

Morfin
11-10-2008, 02:37 PM
It's started already. Obama's gonna take the worst terrorists we have captured, and put them on trial like OJ Simpson !!!

Obama Planning U.S. Trials for Gitmo Prisoners

Monday, November 10, 2008 11:30 AM

WASHINGTON —

President-elect Obama's advisers are quietly crafting a proposal to ship dozens, if not hundreds, of imprisoned terrorism suspects to the United States to face criminal trials.

Obama, what a frickin' commie. I mean really, giving these detainees civil rights and stuff. The nerve of this guy.

Hey, tockit: What's your point? That Obama is bad because he's proposing that these detainees be treated with constitutional rights?

tockit
11-10-2008, 04:54 PM
Obama, what a frickin' commie. I mean really, giving these detainees civil rights and stuff. The nerve of this guy.

Hey, tockit: What's your point? That Obama is bad because he's proposing that these detainees be treated with constitutional rights?
No, I think we need to get the ACLU involved to represent them and try to get them off!

After all, most of them are probably really good guys (just misunderstood)! :rolleyes:

Limp
11-10-2008, 04:55 PM
I need to get the ACLU involved to get me off.