Obama's Cabinet

[TheImpossibleMan]

Who do you think will be chosen for what positions in Obama's cabinet? Who are you hoping for? What is the buzz on the grapevine about his picks?

CNN report:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/06/obama.transition/index.html

[Rover]

Rumsfeld for SecDef would be an outside the box pick.

[hatepoppy]

Rumsfeld for SecDef would be an outside the box pick.if for no other reason than it would be retarded.

[TheImpossibleMan]

I've heard it suggested that Hillary might be chosen for Secretary of State. I think that's a long shot, what about you guys?

[hatepoppy]

I've heard it suggested that Hillary might be chosen for Secretary of State. I think that's a long shot, what about you guys?
id wager mccain is more likely than hillary.

[hatepoppy]

bin laden for defense secretary!

[Morfin]

William Ayers, Homeland Security

[kareyn01]

Rashid Khalidi, Ambassador to Israel.

Also, Rahm Emanuel just accepted the position of Chief of Staff (for real this time).

[Jackcraver]

I think it would be awesome to see Obama keep the current secretary of defense Robert Gates. It would show the country that Obama was serious with his talks about being bipartisan.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Rashid Khalidi, Ambassador to Israel.

Also, Rahm Emanuel just accepted the position of Chief of Staff (for real this time).
link?

[kareyn01]

link?

Sorry for not posting it in the first post.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15371.html

[Rover]

I've heard it suggested that Hillary might be chosen for Secretary of State. I think that's a long shot, what about you guys?I heard somewhere that John Kerry is lobbying to be SecState.

[kareyn01]

I think it would be awesome to see Obama keep the current secretary of defense Robert Gates. It would show the country that Obama was serious with his talks about being bipartisan.

I think that's a very real possibility. Gates has laid out some strategies, particularly regarding the US military's role in nation-building, that jive pretty well with Obama's stated goals. If he doesn't stay, I'd say Chuck Hagel is a pretty decent bet, and Jim Webb of Virginia is an outside shot, especially with the term-limit on Virginia's governors.

[freegood]

P Diddy
Sec. of Keepin it Reel

[Jackcraver]

Chuck Hagel would also be a good choice for the position as long as the position does not go to a Dem. Dem's have historically turned their back on military personnel and have always cut their budget for training and supplies. However I think Jim Webb with all the work he as done with veteran's might take the opposite approach than most Dem's would. So I would endorse both those as good candadites.

[kareyn01]

Chuck Hagel would also be a good choice for the position as long as the position does not go to a Dem. Dem's have historically turned their back on military personnel and have always cut their budget for training and supplies. However I think Jim Webb with all the work he as done with veteran's might take the opposite approach than most Dem's would. So I would endorse both those as good candadites.

I'm sure Obama was just waiting for the Jackcraver endorsement/seal of approval before making a decision... =)

[Jackcraver]

you didn't know that Obama was a Jackcraver also and sticks to his roots?

[Desperado]

It's official.


BREAKING: Emanuel to be chief of staff (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/06/breaking-emanuel-to-be-chief-of-staff/)
Posted: 12:56 PM ET

From CNN Correspondent Jessica Yellin (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/tag/cnn-correspondent-jessica-yellin/)
(CNN) — Illionis Rep. Rahm Emanuel, a former Clinton administration aide, has accepted the position of President-elect Obama's chief of staff, a Democratic aide tells CNN.

[hatepoppy]

Sorry for not posting it in the first post.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15371.html

SLOWASS!

[kid_vidrio]

I think that's a very real possibility. Gates has laid out some strategies, particularly regarding the US military's role in nation-building, that jive pretty well with Obama's stated goals. If he doesn't stay, I'd say Chuck Hagel is a pretty decent bet, and Jim Webb of Virginia is an outside shot, especially with the term-limit on Virginia's governors.
That would be a smooth, smooth move. A la Lincoln.

[Soup Nazi]

I'd like to see Robert Gates stick around as well. Chuck Hagel would likely be my second choice. Out of all his financial guys, I think I would prefer Paul Volcker. As far as secstate, there are so many rumors out there, I don't really know who i would prefer. Probably Bill Richardson, or Dick Luger (though he doesn't appear to be very interested).

[Ace Rockola]

Since Rahm Emanuel in Ari Emanuel's brother, hopefully a lot conversations in the White House will go like this

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[redsox39]

William Ayers, Homeland Security

Department of Education

[redsox39]

Nebraska Always puts up Moderates. Ben Nelson might be one of the most conservitive Democrats, and Chuck Hagel is pretty middle-of-the-road for a Republican. They seem to accuratly take the pulse of America and apply it to policy. That being said, in Nebraska, Hagel is not loved all that much because of it, which I think is retarded.

[Okie Medicvet]

I guess I should stop jumping up and down and screaming now and look at who he's pickin....

but he won.......WWAAAAAAAHOOOOOO!!!

:D

[NOTKyle]

http://www.newsweek.com/id/166328

Newsweek's odds for his choices on SoS, Attorney General, NSA, SoD, and Treasury Secretary.

[Kilgore]

I wonder what Newsweek's odds were that he would have picked Biden as a running mate?

[satandole666]

Anyone but Kerry for the love of God...

[Morfin]

Let's give all the defeated Democrats a position: Kerry, Gore, Dukakis. Hell, throw in Carter, too.

[Claydon]

Rashid Khalidi, Ambassador to Israel.

Also, Rahm Emanuel just accepted the position of Chief of Staff (for real this time).

So a hardcore partisan right up there with pelosi and reid, furthermore a major beneficiary of contributions from wall st. 'banks'.

Yes we can?

Change we need?

[Desperado]

Change we need?


Aww did he pick someone that would be mean??? Come on now... the change we need would be more like this...

The official campaign Web Site said no political appointees would be permitted to work on "regulations or contracts directly and substantially related to their prior employer for two years. And no political appointee will be able to lobby the executive branch after leaving government service during the remainder of the administration."
But almost exactly one year ago, on Nov. 3, 2007, candidate Obama went considerably further than that while campaigning in South Carolina. "I don't take a dime of their money, and when I am president, they won't find a job in my White House," he said of lobbyists at the time.

[Claydon]

Not at all, it appears to me that he (Obama) is doing the washington as usual schtick.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Not at all, it appears to me that he (Obama) is doing the washington as usual schtick.
Jesus Christ man. He's spent 48 hours appoint a handful of people to relevant-but-not-really-that-important positions and bandying about a few other names for a few other positions and you're already talking about how he's going back on his 'Change' ideology?

Fuck you.

[Claydon]

Jesus Christ man. He's spent 48 hours appoint a handful of people to relevant-but-not-really-that-important positions and bandying about a few other names for a few other positions and you're already talking about how he's going back on his 'Change' ideology?

Fuck you.

So his chief of staff is not important?

FUCK YOU

[TheImpossibleMan]

So his chief of staff is not important?

FUCK YOU
Sure it's important. But it's not SecDef or SecState or SecTreasury or anything even approaching that. He was elected two days ago and because he isn't apointing, fuck, I don't know, Sarah Palin as his Chief of Staff you suggest he's reneging on his Change ideology? Don't be such a total cocksucker, we can have meaningful arguments on this forum but not when you do shit like that.

[Claydon]

Sure it's important. But it's not SecDef or SecState or SecTreasury or anything even approaching that. He was elected two days ago and because he isn't apointing, fuck, I don't know, Sarah Palin as his Chief of Staff you suggest he's reneging on his Change ideology? Don't be such a total cocksucker, we can have meaningful arguments on this forum but not when you do shit like that.

Yah, chief of staff, so his point man with the congress is just no big fucking deal. And we are not talking about his other appointees, we are talking about his chief of staff, and if this is a sign of things to come then NO, there is not going to be "change we need".

[TheImpossibleMan]

Yah, chief of staff, so his point man with the congress is just no big fucking deal. And we are not talking about his other appointees, we are talking about his chief of staff, and if this is a sign of things to come then NO, there is not going to be "change we need".I...I'm honestly at a loss. In the same vein as those political cartoons you posted that depicted Obama calling his critics racists, you're so completely out of touch with reality on this issue and have such a massive axe to grind that you won't look rationally at the situation. So fuck you, kid.

[Claydon]

I...I'm honestly at a loss. In the same vein as those political cartoons you posted that depicted Obama calling his critics racists, you're so completely out of touch with reality on this issue and have such a massive axe to grind that you won't look rationally at the situation. So fuck you, kid.

of course you are, you are partisan hack that believes he is your messiah and can do no wrong.

[heelsguy]

I wonder what Newsweek's odds were that he would have picked Biden as a running mate?

the results are in, and it's official: CBS NEWS was the worst presidential poll(% points off from actual results), but NEWSWEEK was 2nd worst. so I would not put too much stock in what either says.

fox/rasmeusen was closest.

[Desperado]

Yah, chief of staff, so his point man with the congress is just no big fucking deal. And we are not talking about his other appointees, we are talking about his chief of staff, and if this is a sign of things to come then NO, there is not going to be "change we need".


Really now... as long as Obama picks a competent person that is not currently in the Bush administration or the Right wing, that start us on the road to change we need. As for this pick... it makes me fucking happy that he isnt picking some pussy for a posistion that requires a lot of balls. He has been one of the best members for the democratic party in the last 4 years, he was great in the clinton administration. It also feels nice to know that all of the bullshit Bush used to decide his staff will die with him and his administration... "Heck of a job Brownie!". Haha if claydon had his way Obama would be picking Romney!
Its a little premature to say that this is not gonna be the change we need, before hes even sworn in.

[Mustard]

Jim Cramer for Treasury Secretary!

[Claydon]

Really now... as long as Obama picks a competent person that is not currently in the Bush administration or the Right wing, that start us on the road to change we need. As for this pick... it makes me fucking happy that he isnt picking some pussy for a posistion that requires a lot of balls. He has been one of the best members for the democratic party in the last 4 years, he was great in the clinton administration. It also feels nice to know that all of the bullshit Bush used to decide his staff will die with him and his administration... "Heck of a job Brownie!". Haha if claydon had his way Obama would be picking Romney!
Its a little premature to say that this is not gonna be the change we need, before hes even sworn in.

Well, Gates is on the list for sec def and he is under bush currently. what do you think about that?

You know, everyone here thought rove was the great satan....yet he was extremely effective. so why is it ok for obama to have a partisan hack for a chief of staff? Oh thats right...its cuz its obama....his shit smells better than most.

[Desperado]

Well, Gates is on the list for sec def and he is under bush currently. what do you think about that?

You know, everyone here thought rove was the great satan....yet he was extremely effective. so why is it ok for obama to have a partisan hack for a chief of staff? Oh thats right...its cuz its obama....his shit smells better than most.


Claydon you're better then that... I hope. Are you really comparing Rove to Emanuel? Thats not really a road you want to travel down. As for Gates abeing on the list... doesnt that prove that he is willing to cross the partisian lines in order to get stuff done? However I wouldnt bet on it... the stink that comes from anyone associated with the bush administration wouldnt be appealing... in my opinion. But again... isnt it a little premature to make any assumptions regarding the change soon to come? Or are you one of those worthless fucks who hopes that Obama/America fails, the economy goes in the shitter, and we get attacked?

[Claydon]

Claydon you're better then that... I hope. Are you really comparing Rove to Emanuel? Thats not really a road you want to travel down. As for Gates abeing on the list... doesnt that prove that he is willing to cross the partisian lines in order to get stuff done? However I wouldnt bet on it... the stink that comes from anyone associated with the bush administration wouldnt be appealing... in my opinion. But again... isnt it a little premature to make any assumptions regarding the change soon to come? Or are you one of those worthless fucks who hopes that Obama/America fails, the economy goes in the shitter, and we get attacked?

Actually I really hope that obama keeps gates on as sec def because he has done some really solid work in the last 24 months.

[Genius]

Well, Gates is on the list for sec def and he is under bush currently. what do you think about that?

You know, everyone here thought rove was the great satan....yet he was extremely effective. so why is it ok for obama to have a partisan hack for a chief of staff? Oh thats right...its cuz its obama....his shit smells better than most.
So...tell us who you would have him pick. Because I'd wager that you'd say the same thing if he picked anyone who was a Democrat or Joe Lieberman. Face it. You'll find a way to deride every decision Obama makes, because he's a Democrat. He pulls out of Iraq? OMG, defeatist traitor! He stays in Iraq? OMG, he didn't stick by his word! He raises taxes? OMG, typical Democrat! He cuts taxes? OMG, he's pandering! You're one of the hard-line Republicans that thinks a Republican should be in the White House at all times. You would have found a way to argue for Hoover over Roosevelt, Dole over Clinton, and lord knows we've heard McCain over Obama, ad naseum. Since that is the case, why should we value your opinion at all?

[Claydon]

So...tell us who you would have him pick. Because I'd wager that you'd say the same thing if he picked anyone who was a Democrat or Joe Lieberman. Face it. You'll find a way to deride every decision Obama makes, because he's a Democrat. He pulls out of Iraq? OMG, defeatist traitor! He stays in Iraq? OMG, he didn't stick by his word! He raises taxes? OMG, typical Democrat! He cuts taxes? OMG, he's pandering! You're one of the hard-line Republicans that thinks a Republican should be in the White House at all times. You would have found a way to argue for Hoover over Roosevelt, Dole over Clinton, and lord knows we've heard McCain over Obama, ad naseum. Since that is the case, why should we value your opinion at all?

hey ass face, look at my last post.

[dick_darlington]

i would like to have wesley clark as secretary of defense.

[Genius]

hey ass face, look at my last post.
What does hoping Obama keeps a Republican on as SecDef have to do with anything? I think that if Obama replaced him with a Democrat who pursued the exact same strategy as Gates, you would criticize it. You've more than proved that your love of party far outweighs your love of country. I've never read a positive word from you toward any Democrat.

[taters]

Sec of State = Emmanuel Rahm
Attorney Gen = John Edwards (Would scare every corporation in the country into getting their shit straight)
Head of EPA = Al Gore (duh)
Sec of Labor = Jim Oberstar
Sec of Defense = Wesley Clark
Sec of Education = Bill Hedrick
Sec of Interior = RT Rybeck (Doubt it, but he would make a GREAT one)
Press Secretary = Anderson Cooper would be good, but logically Paul Begaula
Sec of Treasury = Steve Balmer (I know, crazy, but if anyone can 1- Force an unpopular economic package while 2- keeping smart patient people that they will make money in the end, its him).
Sec of Information Technology (Theres been talks of this new office, which makes sense in terms of modernization) = Eric Schmidt
Sec of Homeland Security = Colin Powell

[Claydon]

What does hoping Obama keeps a Republican on as SecDef have to do with anything? I think that if Obama replaced him with a Democrat who pursued the exact same strategy as Gates, you would criticize it. You've more than proved that your love of party far outweighs your love of country. I've never read a positive word from you toward any Democrat.

If he appointed Nunn or Holbrooke as Sec. State I would applaud such a choice. Dick Luger would also be a solid choice for Sec. Def.

[Claydon]

Sec of State = Emmanuel Rahm
Attorney Gen = John Edwards (Would scare every corporation in the country into getting their shit straight)
Head of EPA = Al Gore (duh)
Sec of Labor = Jim Oberstar
Sec of Defense = Wesley Clark
Sec of Education = Bill Hedrick
Sec of Interior = RT Rybeck (Doubt it, but he would make a GREAT one)
Press Secretary = Anderson Cooper would be good, but logically Paul Begaula
Sec of Treasury = Steve Balmer (I know, crazy, but if anyone can 1- Force an unpopular economic package while 2- keeping smart patient people that they will make money in the end, its him).
Sec of Information Technology (Theres been talks of this new office, which makes sense in terms of modernization) = Eric Schmidt
Sec of Homeland Security = Colin Powell

tater why would we add yet another cabinet position. god you people love to increase government size.

btw, i loved hearing barney frank talking about raising taxes on lower income brackets, down into the very low 6 figures.

[Mustard]

Laura Bush for Sec. of Education!

Colin Powell for Sec. of Defense!

[Claydon]

Laura Bush for Sec. of Education!

Colin Powell for Sec. of Defense!

I wish he was, the Powell Doctrine is something that should be adhered to. I know HF will disagree strongly with me, however I <3 Powell.

[Genius]

John Edwards as AG would be one of the worst decisions he could possibly make. The next AG has to be the most straight-laced motherfucker in the history of the office. Janet Reno and Alberto Gonzalez have totally sullied the position. The next person has to be beyond reproach and positively oozing integrity. Edwards cheated on his cancer-stricken wife. That just won't cut it.

[Claydon]

John Edwards as AG would be one of the worst decisions he could possibly make. The next AG has to be the most straight-laced motherfucker in the history of the office. Janet Reno and Alberto Gonzalez have totally sullied the position. The next person has to be beyond reproach and positively oozing integrity. Edwards cheated on his cancer-stricken wife. That just won't cut it.

agreed

[taters]

tater why would we add yet another cabinet position. god you people love to increase government size.

btw, i loved hearing barney frank talking about raising taxes on lower income brackets, down into the very low 6 figures.

Yea, no one said that when dubya added the incompetent Homeland security position.

But I digress, another position is needed because in our modern society, technology, specifically that of the internet and high end technology has as big an effect on our defense, our daily lives, and our economy as many other offices do.

Shrinking the government is not always or even usually a good answer. With that mentality, you would have a small number of people with multiple different jobs that they dont qualify for, handling important issues they dont understand. In other words, you have an outdated, incompentent, agenda based bureacracy, ie the bush administration.


Clinton made a comment a few weeks back at an Obama rally:

"Republicans love to run campaigns telling people how the government doesnt work, then they get elected and prove it to them."

[Claydon]

Yea, no one said that when dubya added the incompetent Homeland security position.

But I digress, another position is needed because in our modern society, technology, specifically that of the internet and high end technology has as big an effect on our defense, our daily lives, and our economy as many other offices do.

Shrinking the government is not always or even usually a good answer. With that mentality, you would have a small number of people with multiple different jobs that they dont qualify for, handling important issues they dont understand. In other words, you have an outdated, incompentent, agenda based bureacracy, ie the bush administration.


Clinton made a comment a few weeks back at an Obama rally:

"Republicans love to run campaigns telling people how the government doesnt work, then they get elected and prove it to them."


clearly you do not read much, at least my posts. I think TSA and HL Security is a total fucking waste of time and money. Its done nothing but raise airline tickets costs by as much as $50 per ticket..and for what, so I can wait in line for a incompetent $14/hr piece of shit that can barely read trying to tell me that the wattage on my scuba diving light (without the batteries) is unacceptable. The bush administration has done everything to increase the government size, with the MASSIVE increases in medicare, TSA etc you are just plain wrong. Hence I and so many other conservatives chastised bush about such matters.

[Yelram]

Yea, no one said that when dubya added the incompetent Homeland security position.

But I digress, another position is needed because in our modern society, technology, specifically that of the internet and high end technology has as big an effect on our defense, our daily lives, and our economy as many other offices do.

Shrinking the government is not always or even usually a good answer. With that mentality, you would have a small number of people with multiple different jobs that they dont qualify for, handling important issues they dont understand. In other words, you have an outdated, incompentent, agenda based bureacracy, ie the bush administration.


Clinton made a comment a few weeks back at an Obama rally:

"Republicans love to run campaigns telling people how the government doesnt work, then they get elected and prove it to them."

Say buh-bye to net neutrality.

[taters]

^ If Verizon, Comcast and ATT can destroy net neutrality, may as well have everyone get a piece of the pie to even it out.

[Yelram]

^ If Verizon, Comcast and ATT can destroy net neutrality, may as well have everyone get a piece of the pie to even it out.
What? That doesnt even make sense. A piece of the pie? You are going to be censored.

[taters]

What? That doesnt even make sense. A piece of the pie? You are going to be censored.


Should have been "the government and possibly google and tmobile-should get a peice of the pie"

Im talking how they bought up all of the wireless waves (specifically verizon), and are now under investigation concerning the big cable analog-digital switch.

Wait...I think I get what you were may have been saying. Let me go ahead and say I LOVE my service from the above mentioned internet and phone providers and re_l_ enj__ th_er s______





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[TheImpossibleMan]

Eric Holder presumptive choice for Attorney General (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/18/eric.holder/index.html)

[Claydon]

I love how the media is playing up that this would be the first black AG. I suppose the fact that the first mexican AG was appointed by bush is not a big deal.

meh!

[HAWK]

Stop being a bitch already. We got it, OK?

[Claydon]

Also, I am disappointed if he is going to appoint Hillary Clinton for SoS. Holbrook, or Nunn would have been superior choices.

[HAWK]

We know. Let's focus on the White House janitorial services next.

[Rover]

John Edwards as AG would be one of the worst decisions he could possibly make. The next AG has to be the most straight-laced motherfucker in the history of the office. Janet Reno and Alberto Gonzalez have totally sullied the position. The next person has to be beyond reproach and positively oozing integrity. Edwards cheated on his cancer-stricken wife. That just won't cut it.

Eric Holder presumptive choice for Attorney General (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/18/eric.holder/index.html)Sweet. Another Clinton era appointee. Hopefully, Holder didn't learn how to raid religious compounds and fuck up Cuban propaganda from AG Reno.

And he loves tax evaders who illegally trade with Iran. Justice Clinton style.

C'mon Hillary for SecState.

Ch-ch-ch-ch-Changes

[Stax]

Wesley Clark as SecDefense would be excellent, but if Nunn isn't at State Nunn would be more likely for SecDef I think.

[heelsguy]

Wesley Clark as SecDefense would be excellent, but if Nunn isn't at State Nunn would be more likely for SecDef I think.


yes, get wesley clark off the campaign trail (2004) and the left wingish cable news networks--where he was basically paid to confirm their anti-Iraq war sentiments.... hopefully as S of D he will locate his balls again.

that's right, I said it

[rc113943]

I love how the media is playing up that this would be the first black AG. I suppose the fact that the first mexican AG was appointed by bush is not a big deal.

meh!

the only race that matters is black. everything black for the first time is the greatest time it ever happened and should be supplemented with discussions including but not limited to slavery, civil rights, martin luther king jr, racist redneck radicals, and a tearful commentary about "anything is possible"

[Stax]

yes, get wesley clark off the campaign trail (2004) and the left wingish cable news networks--where he was basically paid to confirm their anti-Iraq war sentiments.... hopefully as S of D he will locate his balls again.

that's right, I said it

He was on fucking Fox News for years, what the hell are you talking about?

[Stax]

the only race that matters is black. everything black for the first time is the greatest time it ever happened and should be supplemented with discussions including but not limited to slavery, civil rights, martin luther king jr, racist redneck radicals, and a tearful commentary about "anything is possible"

Gonzalez might be better remembered if he didn't take over for a horrible prick and just continue the prickery.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Sweet. Another Clinton era appointee. Hopefully, Holder didn't learn how to raid religious compounds and fuck up Cuban propaganda from AG Reno.

And he loves tax evaders who illegally trade with Iran. Justice Clinton style.

C'mon Hillary for SecState.

Ch-ch-ch-ch-Changes
Um, he was nominated by Carter and Reagan for various positions.

Just sayin'.

[TheImpossibleMan]

yes, get wesley clark off the campaign trail (2004) and the left wingish cable news networks--where he was basically paid to confirm their anti-Iraq war sentiments.... hopefully as S of D he will locate his balls again.

that's right, I said it
I'm not 100% if this is what you're getting at, but if you're suggesting that a four-star general went against the Iraq war just because he was paid to do so...fuck you.

[Abnormal]

id wager mccain is more likely than hillary.


I would hope so.