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Le Goat
11-13-2008, 10:21 PM
LINCOLN, Neb. – The mother was running out of more than patience when she abandoned her 18-year-old daughter at a hospital over the weekend under Nebraska's safe-haven law. She was also running out of time: She knew that state lawmakers would soon meet in a special session to amend the ill-fated law so that it would apply to newborns only.
"Where am I going to get help if they change the law?" said the mother, who lives in Lincoln and asked to not be identified by name to protect her adopted child.
To the state's surprise and embarrassment, more than half of the 31 children legally abandoned under the safe-haven law since it took effect in mid-July have been teenagers.
But state officials may have inadvertently made things worse with their hesitant response to the problem: The number of drop-offs has almost tripled to about three a week since Gov. Dave Heineman announced on Oct. 29 that lawmakers would rewrite the law.
With legislators set to convene on Friday, weary parents like the Lincoln mother have been racing to drop off their children while they still can.
On Thursday, authorities searched for two teens — a boy and girl, ages 14 and 17 — who fled an Omaha hospital as their mother tried to abandon them. The mother was trying to take them from the car to the emergency room when they took off.
Child welfare experts said the late deluge of drop-offs was probably inevitable. After all, they said, some date had to be picked to begin changing the law.
But some of them said lawmakers and the governor missed chances to change the law early because they underestimated the number of desperate families looking for help. Heineman called the special session only after a spate of five drop-offs in eight days.
Reluctance to pull senators away from their jobs and election campaigns, along with the estimated $70,000 to $80,000 cost of a special session, were among the reasons Heineman's office cited in holding off on calling a special session sooner.
"I think there was a fair amount of denial on the part of legislators that it would snowball," said Karen Authier, executive director of the Nebraska Children's Home Society.
The safe-haven law was intended to save "Dumpster babies" by allowing desperate young mothers to abandon their newborns at a hospital without fear of prosecution. But lawmakers could not agree on an age limit, and the law as passed uses only the word "child."
All states have safe-haven laws, but in every state but Nebraska, the law applies to infants only.
Authier said her group and others had warned senators after the law passed early this year that there could be problems, but the lawmakers did not believe it.
"It wasn't like talking to a stone wall," Authier said. "It was just that people who aren't in the business of dealing with families, they aren't aware how desperate some of these families are."
Sure enough, 18 teenagers — five 17-year-olds, two 16-year-olds, six 15-year-olds, two 14-year-olds, three 13-year-olds — have been abandoned, along with eight children who were 11 or 12. Five of the children dropped off have been from out of state.
The Lincoln mother who dropped off her 18-year-old daughter said she was repeatedly turned down when she sought help from police, state social services authorities and the girl's school. The woman said her daughter had been diagnosed with a mental illness when she was 12 and had deep psychological scars from childhood abuse and from being left alone with her dead biological mother for a week.
The woman said she felt she had no choice but to leave her daughter at the hospital after a recent flurry of assault, stealing, sleeping around and cutting school.
"I thought she would get help" through the safe-haven law, the mother said.
However, state authorities refused to take the young woman into custody, saying Nebraska law regarding juveniles does not let authorities take in anyone older than 17. The woman left with her daughter.
Fourteen children in all have been left at three hospitals operated by Alegent Health in the Omaha area.
"These are largely families at a point of incredible desperation," said Wayne Sensor, chief executive of Alegent Health. "They aren't bad parents or bad kids. They simply don't know what services are available out there."

Whiffleball
11-14-2008, 12:23 PM
Nebraska: The last state to pass a law to try and prevent infanticide, the first to incredibly fuck it up!

More needs to be done for families without health insurance or with insurance that doesn't cover mental health issues. This isn't just parents from Nebraska; parents from all over the country are going to Omaha because they can't afford to provide the care these children need.

Claibo
11-14-2008, 12:35 PM
To the state's surprise and embarrassment, more than half of the 31 children legally abandoned under the safe-haven law since it took effect in mid-July have been teenagers.
But state officials may have inadvertently made things worse with their hesitant response to the problem: The number of drop-offs has almost tripled to about three a week since Gov. Dave Heineman announced on Oct. 29 that lawmakers would rewrite the law.
With legislators set to convene on Friday, weary parents like the Lincoln mother have been racing to drop off their children while they still can.

Christ... we live in a fucked up world. I can't imagine being given up as a teen or any age for that matter... what a mind fuck that would be. I have a feeling that some of those kids are on their way some group home all b/c their parents are desperate human beings that can't man up and take care of their own children... disabled or not. As a father this really just blows me away regardless of the mental / physical state of the children. I understand that desperate times call for desperate measures but damn, abandoning your own children must be devastating all around.



On the flip side I beleive that this law can save lives so I agree with the concept but not the parents who take advantage. <<< I hate that word in this article.

Kerjack
11-14-2008, 12:39 PM
Don't most of these teenagers have sever mental and physical disability? If thats the case it sucks but I can definitely understand.

Claibo
11-14-2008, 12:40 PM
Don't most of these teenagers have sever mental and physical disability? If thats the case it sucks but I can definitely understand.

Still a shitty thing to do... have fun sleeping at night.

Kerjack
11-14-2008, 12:46 PM
My sister used to manage a housing place for the mentally challenged. I spent one night there helping her out and I almost went crazy, I can't imagine the strain that taking care of one of them for 16 years puts on you. One girl screamed ALL night. Another huge hairy dude was buck naked and shit down the hall and then was rocking on the couch, then another dude came along and peed on it.

16 hours of that fucks even a sane person up.

Kerjack
11-14-2008, 12:50 PM
Now that I think about it, that job is tailored to Goat. He should apply.

Whiffleball
11-14-2008, 12:50 PM
Still a shitty thing to do... have fun sleeping at night.

If you're operating under the assumption that these are deadbeats who are just giving up on being a parent, I think you're wrong. Deadbeat parents usually don't stick around long once the kid is born, if they're still around even these. By and large, what's happening in Nebraska is impoverished parents without health insurance or insufficient insurance who can't afford the treatment their children need. They probably reason that their kids will be better off getting that care from the state than not getting it at all from a parent who lacks the means to care for a child with special needs. I highly doubt that these parents are sleeping well themselves; most of the coverage has shown them being ashamed and emotional. I don't pretend to understand what they're going through since it must be very challenging to have to wonder how you're not just going to make ends meet but wonder how you can get all the costly care your kid needs to have something approaching a normal life.

Claibo
11-14-2008, 12:54 PM
If you're operating under the assumption that these are deadbeats who are just giving up on being a parent, I think you're wrong. Deadbeat parents usually don't stick around long once the kid is born, if they're still around even these. By and large, what's happening in Nebraska is impoverished parents without health insurance or insufficient insurance who can't afford the treatment their children need. They probably reason that their kids will be better off getting that care from the state than not getting it at all from a parent who lacks the means to care for a child with special needs. I highly doubt that these parents are sleeping well themselves; most of the coverage has shown them being ashamed and emotional. I don't pretend to understand what they're going through since it must be very challenging to have to wonder how you're not just going to make ends meet but wonder how you can get all the costly care your kid needs to have something approaching a normal life.


I agree with you... I just can't imagine living in a situation where desperation forces a parent to make decisions such as these.

Archangel
11-14-2008, 01:02 PM
If you live in a trailer, STOP FUCKING.


One should think that such things would go without saying...

hatepoppy
11-14-2008, 01:11 PM
If you live in a trailer, STOP FUCKING.


One should think that such things would go without saying...
i grew up in a trailer, dickstain!

Limp
11-14-2008, 01:12 PM
i grew up in a trailer, dickstain!
+1!


Wait... we might be supporting Archs post...

hatepoppy
11-14-2008, 01:13 PM
+1!


Wait... we might be supporting Archs post...
i dont know you, but i know im not, foo.

Nature's Folly
11-14-2008, 01:13 PM
If you live in a trailer, STOP FUCKING.


One should think that such things would go without saying...

But, but, trailer sex is the best!

Morfin
11-14-2008, 01:19 PM
La La La La. Old thread. http://forum.gorillamask.net/showthread.php?t=9041&highlight=nebraska

Kerjack
11-14-2008, 01:24 PM
One should think that such things would go without saying...

Kind of like not spending beyond your means. But both people and even governments routinely do so. And sex is so much more of a high... i would think. In other words, don't hold your breath.

Alcestis
11-14-2008, 02:53 PM
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081113/capt.33fdafcda9f240c88aeec0b9d111ecd0.safe_haven_n enh103.jpg?x=400&y=312&q=85&sig=8jYPhoLuVwDVdn169U8vzg--

new.yahoo.com (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081114/ap_on_re_us/safe_haven;_ylt=ArH0bPVX2oYTykSyzjMFBlEDW7oF)

The mother of an 18 year-old daughter, who asked not to be named to protect the identity of her child, holds her daughter's pet cat, Patches, as she stands in her daughter's room, in Lincoln, Neb., Wednesday, Nov. 12, 2008. After a recent spate of her daughters' bad behavior, the mother said she felt like she had no other choice but to leave her daughter at a hospital, where she thought she would get help through Nebraska's safe haven law. She says she worried that if the law was changed, she would not have a way to get help for her daughter. Nebraska lawmakers meet Friday to begin tightening the state's open-ended safe-haven law.
(AP)

But she was willing to pose for pictures? That would be seen by millions, many who know the daughter. Excellent decision!

Le Goat
11-14-2008, 03:00 PM
I'd hit it

Kerjack
11-14-2008, 03:00 PM
The cat looks worried

Claibo
11-14-2008, 03:10 PM
The cat looks worried

b/c it is next...

hatepoppy
11-14-2008, 03:20 PM
b/c it is next...
that cat would LOVE to get dropped off anywhere but there, im sure.

The GWD
11-14-2008, 03:24 PM
She 'abandoned' her 18 year old daughter? At 18, she's a fucking adult. My dad kicked me out when I was 18, I don't go around trying to make the news.

Le Goat
11-14-2008, 03:28 PM
Shut it with the dad issues fag.

hatepoppy
11-14-2008, 03:29 PM
She 'abandoned' her 18 year old daughter? At 18, she's a fucking adult. My dad kicked me out when I was 18, I don't go around trying to make the news.
get a job!

The GWD
11-14-2008, 03:51 PM
get a job!

Or commit a crime. If they wouldn't take her because she's over 17, she should go on a bank robbing spree. Until she gets enough money to retire, or she gets caught. Either way she's set for life.

UNC
11-14-2008, 03:53 PM
People that craps themselves should be killed at 18.

They wouldn't know the difference.

Morfin
11-14-2008, 04:02 PM
Hey Marcus:

Your daughters retained me to research the Nebraska law. They want to know if they can drop off their dad.

redsox39
11-14-2008, 04:06 PM
Don't most of these teenagers have sever mental and physical disability? If thats the case it sucks but I can definitely understand.

Actually, the "sever" problems are usually ADD type issues, none of these kids have been Down Syndrome or anything, most of them are just kids that keep getting in trouble...I live here, all of our news stations have a running total each night and talk about each case. Most of these could have been your friends from anywhere. They have come from 13 different states, some All the way from Miami. It is ridiculous.

Problem Children, yes.

Severly disabled? No.

My sister used to manage a housing place for the mentally challenged. I spent one night there helping her out and I almost went crazy, I can't imagine the strain that taking care of one of them for 16 years puts on you. One girl screamed ALL night. Another huge hairy dude was buck naked and shit down the hall and then was rocking on the couch, then another dude came along and peed on it.

16 hours of that fucks even a sane person up.

If you live in a trailer, STOP FUCKING.


One should think that such things would go without saying...

On that note, alot of these kids are not from the "trailer" areas, amazingly enough. We are getting plenty of "Blue State" drop offs.

She 'abandoned' her 18 year old daughter? At 18, she's a fucking adult. My dad kicked me out when I was 18, I don't go around trying to make the news.

In Nebraska, it is 19...