Will Obama live to the end of his presidency?

[The Batman]

There is a huge elephant in the room that no one is talking about and it isn't the republicans.
I have had this conversation with several co-workers and we all feel like some stupid redneck or some anti government/establishment person will decide to assassinate Obama before his presidency is over.
Then, it doesn't help that there are articles like this online:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20081117/ts_csm/aaryan;_ylt=AngaM4Fl9PU8g0e4RAg9xWsEtbAF (http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20081117/ts_csm/aaryan;_ylt=AngaM4Fl9PU8g0e4RAg9xWsEtbAF)
"The election of America's first black president has triggered more than 200 hate-related incidents, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center – a record in modern presidential elections."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/11/obama.gun.sales/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/11/obama.gun.sales/index.html)
"Weapons dealers in much of the United States are reporting sharply higher sales since Barack Obama won the presidency a week ago."

So, do you think that Obama will live to the end of his presidency?

Discuss.

[Yelram]

There is a huge elephant in the room that no one is talking about and it isn't the republicans.
I have had this conversation with several co-workers and we all feel like some stupid redneck or some anti government/establishment person will decide to assassinate Obama before his presidency is over.
Then, it doesn't help that there are articles like this online:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20081117/ts_csm/aaryan;_ylt=AngaM4Fl9PU8g0e4RAg9xWsEtbAF (http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20081117/ts_csm/aaryan;_ylt=AngaM4Fl9PU8g0e4RAg9xWsEtbAF)
"The election of America's first black president has triggered more than 200 hate-related incidents, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center – a record in modern presidential elections."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/11/obama.gun.sales/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/11/obama.gun.sales/index.html)
"Weapons dealers in much of the United States are reporting sharply higher sales since Barack Obama won the presidency a week ago."

So, do you think that Obama will live to the end of his presidency?

Discuss.

I take it you are assuming he is going to make it to inauguration?

[comicfan]

He will pretend to be assassinated so that he can go vacation with Tupak and Elvis!

[The Batman]

I take it you are assuming he is going to make it to inauguration?

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they shot him the moment he touched that bible....

But, sadly, I don't think he will make it. I think some stupid self important Christian redneck will kill him before the end of his term.

[freegood]

Well there's not much to do about it.

Except maybe stock up on some guns for the coming anarchy.

[Yelram]

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they shot him the moment he touched that bible....

But, sadly, I don't think he will make it. I think some stupid self important Christian redneck will kill him before the end of his term.

If someone kills him, it will be the democrat machine.

[redsox39]

There is a huge elephant in the room that no one is talking about and it isn't the republicans.
I have had this conversation with several co-workers and we all feel like some stupid redneck or some anti government/establishment person will decide to assassinate Obama before his presidency is over.
Then, it doesn't help that there are articles like this online:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20081117/ts_csm/aaryan;_ylt=AngaM4Fl9PU8g0e4RAg9xWsEtbAF (http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20081117/ts_csm/aaryan;_ylt=AngaM4Fl9PU8g0e4RAg9xWsEtbAF)
"The election of America's first black president has triggered more than 200 hate-related incidents, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center – a record in modern presidential elections."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/11/obama.gun.sales/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/11/obama.gun.sales/index.html)
"Weapons dealers in much of the United States are reporting sharply higher sales since Barack Obama won the presidency a week ago."

So, do you think that Obama will live to the end of his presidency?

Discuss.

While I agree that this should be discussed...The weapons sales will go up anytime the people elect a man they think will restrict or ban the sales of certain guns.

On that note, I am sure some 19 yr old college drop out is planning something in his basement right now...

Weather or not he pulls it off is yet to be seen.

I DO think Obama will make it to the end. I also think he will get a few close calls.

I also want to point out, I did not vote for Obama, in fact, I activley campaigned against him. That being said, no one kills my president. That is a slap in the face to the whole country. I will volunteer for the Part of Jack Ruby.

[The Batman]

While I agree that this should be discussed...The weapons sales will go up anytime the people elect a man they think will restrict or ban the sales of certain guns.

On that note, I am sure some 19 college drop out is planning something in his basement right now...

Weather or not he pulls it off is yet to be seen.

I DO think Obama will make it to the end. I also think he will get a few close calls.

I also want to point out, I did not vote for Obama, in fact, I activley campaigned against him. That being said, no one kills my president. That is a slap in the face to the whole country. I will volunteer for the Part of Jack Ruby.

If you get to be Jack Ruby I want to be Jack Bauer.

[The Batman]

If someone kills him, it will be the democrat machine.

Come on, seriously. If anyone is going to kill him, it would be someone with your mindset or someone from Georgia, NC, SC, Kentucky, Texas or Albama.

[Willam]

Come on, seriously. If anyone is going to kill him, it would be someone with your mindset or someone from Georgia, NC, SC, Kentucky, Texas or Albama.


As a man from the south, I get EXTREMELY tired of people assuming we are all backwood hicks. The biggest rednecks I've ever seen come from Michigan, Ohio, and other north/midwest states. Not everyone in the south is a redneck you dumbass fool.

[Yelram]

Come on, seriously. If anyone is going to kill him, it would be someone with your mindset or someone from Georgia, NC, SC, Kentucky, Texas or Albama.

Yeah, because they would gain what exactly? It would solidify the country behind the democrats. Politically, the republicans have nothing to gain from Obama being assassinated, the dems do.
MY mindset? Listen here little boy. I know this is your first election, and you just started following politics, but get your head out of your ass. Have you even visited those places? You remind me of tater, only dumber. He went on and on how a black man could never win an election in racist America, and he was wrong. I disagree with Obama on policies, not on skin color. So for your dumb ass to group me in with people you assume are racist, really pisses me off, and it alienates anyone from having a political discussion.

[The Batman]

As a man from the south, I get EXTREMELY tired of people assuming we are all backwood hicks. The biggest rednecks I've ever seen come from Michigan, Ohio, and other north/midwest states. Not everyone in the south is a redneck you dumbass fool.

No, of course EVERYONE from the south is not a redneck. I live in Texas and have lived in Georgia and Flordia and I know this for a fact. In fact, I see fewer rednecks in Houston than honestly most people probably assume live here. But, if you ever go to the moutains of Georgia or in and out of Alabama or the rural areas of Texas, their redneck nature is quite extreme and their hatred for black people can be extreme. Obviously you will find it in other places, but there are a TON of them in those places and you know it. So get off your fucking high horse and accept there is a higher probablity of some redneck coming from Alabama and killing the president than there is of some guy from Hawaii doing the same thing.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Yeah, because they would gain what exactly? It would solidify the country behind the democrats. Politically, the republicans have nothing to gain from Obama being assassinated, the dems do.
MY mindset? Listen here little boy. I know this is your first election, and you just started following politics, but get your head out of your ass. Have you even visited those places? You remind me of tater, only dumber. He went on and on how a black man could never win an election in racist America, and he was wrong. I disagree with Obama on policies, not on skin color. So for your dumb ass to group me in with people you assume are racist, really pisses me off, and it alienates anyone from having a political discussion.
Right, and your inability to have conversations with people about...well, pretty much anything with out condescending and then calling the other person retarded or "faggot" doesn't alienate people from political discussions. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes: I hate smileys but the "rolling-eyes while grinning" symbol was created specifically for situations like this.

[The Batman]

Yeah, because they would gain what exactly? It would solidify the country behind the democrats. Politically, the republicans have nothing to gain from Obama being assassinated, the dems do.
MY mindset? Listen here little boy. I know this is your first election, and you just started following politics, but get your head out of your ass. Have you even visited those places? You remind me of tater, only dumber. He went on and on how a black man could never win an election in racist America, and he was wrong. I disagree with Obama on policies, not on skin color. So for your dumb ass to group me in with people you assume are racist, really pisses me off, and it alienates anyone from having a political discussion.

Lived there dick face. You have made unreasonable arguments towards Obama being a bad president and people killing him won't only have to do with Race. As I understand it, a lot of people fear him being some sort of anti-christ or creating a path that will only destroy this country. Its fear that will get him killed, nothing else. Where that fear stem froms doesn't matter.

[Yelram]

Right, and your inability to have conversations with people about...well, pretty much anything with out condescending and then calling the other person retarded or "faggot" doesn't alienate people from political discussions. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes: I hate smileys but the "rolling-eyes while grinning" symbol was created specifically for situations like this.
I've never called you a faggot.

Batman.

Unreasonable? What exactly do you mean?

[Whiffleball]

Come on, seriously. If anyone is going to kill him, it would be someone with your mindset or someone from Georgia, NC, SC, Kentucky, Texas or Albama.

I have to echo what William said. I also live in Jesusland but I don't like being lumped in with the stereotype that we are all ignorant, right-wing maniacs living in the woods, clinging to guns and religion. I know that probably wasn't your intention, but just like you shouldn't make unfair generalizations based on race, you shouldn't do it in regards to geography.

I totally reject Yelram's theory as the stuff of retarded fantasy (par for the course, considering the source) as the Democratic "machine" stands to do far better under a Barack Obama administration, given how popular and promising he is, than they do with him being turned into a martyr. Even if he ended up being worth more dead than alive, I think the fact that George W. Bush is still among the living proves that people are not so evil or competent to conceive and carry out such conspiratorial plots.

I think Obama is far more likely to be done in by white supremicists, who tend to be more than a bit unbalanced and violent -- the sort with nothing left to lose, who would find the idea of going out in a blaze of glory killing the most prominent African-American in our history.

The thing is, as we saw with the recent plots uncovered as of late (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3271895/White-supremacists-plotted-to-assassinate-Barack-Obama-in-top-hats-and-tails.html), these people also tend to be rank amateurs -- or, in one case, meth heads -- who stand very little chance of pulling off something so grand as the murder of the most important person in the free world. It's unlikely any of these people, a relative minority in the U.S., will have the sophistication or the actual means to Obama.

Of course, the people who shot Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan were not ex-Special Forces by any means. Security measures are no doubt better than they used to be, but there is always the possibility of mechanical errors and human incompetence. And given Obama is not just under threat because of his office but the color of his skin, all it would take is one nutjob out of the many getting lucky for things to end badly.

The Independent has a nice story on the subject: (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/white-rage-the-rednecks-out-to-kill-obama-1017497.html)

How much of a risk of assassination does Obama face? The most immediate, comfortable answer to that is: not much. The Secret Service has vastly improved its procedures and protocols since the spate of political assassinations of the 1960s and early 1970s. No president would now be allowed to drive at a snail's pace in an open-top car through the centre of a major city, as John Kennedy did in Dallas on 22 November, 1963. The sheer numbers of Secret Service members assigned to presidential protection has increased dramatically since the attempt on Reagan's life – we don't have exact figures on how much, but we do know that when one unhinged man toyed with the idea of tossing a grenade at President Bush in Atlanta in 2005, he never got remotely close enough to give it a real try.

The more worrying answer is that Obama will almost certainly inspire a large number of assassination plots because of the colour of his skin, and that it only takes one of them to be blessed with luck, proper organisation and a little official incompetence to pose a serious threat. When asked how much of a risk he faces, he has acknowledged that the color of his skin will be a problem for some people. And he knows that Colin Powell, the only other African American of significant stature in recent times to consider a run at the White House, decided not to pursue the presidency in part because his wife, Alma, feared for his safety.


I personally think he will make it and I'm not really a optimist. He may get shot and there will be definitely attempts on his life but I think security will be strong enough to deter the nuts who do go after him. Of the many, many radical idiots who would actually seriously attempt to kill him, I think the percentage of those actually capable of doing it is so small survival is perfectly reasonable.

[Yelram]

No, of course EVERYONE from the south is not a redneck. I live in Texas and have lived in Georgia and Flordia and I know this for a fact. In fact, I see fewer rednecks in Houston than honestly most people probably assume live here. But, if you ever go to the moutains of Georgia or in and out of Alabama or the rural areas of Texas, their redneck nature is quite extreme and their hatred for black people can be extreme. Obviously you will find it in other places, but there are a TON of them in those places and you know it. So get off your fucking high horse and accept there is a higher probablity of some redneck coming from Alabama and killing the president than there is of some guy from Hawaii doing the same thing.

Based on what? Where is your source information for your probability?

[The Batman]

I've never called you a faggot.

Batman.

Unreasonable? What exactly do you mean?

Come on, through most of the discussions we have had about Obama, you have come up with the most far right things about this country going down in flames. When people, whether on the left or the right, go to the far side of their point, you sound like a completely unreasonable jackass.

[The Batman]

I have to echo what William said. I also live in Jesusland but I don't like being lumped in with the stereotype that we are all ignorant, right-wing maniacs living in the woods, clinging to guns and religion. I know that probably wasn't your intention, but just like you shouldn't make unfair generalizations based on race, you shouldn't do it in regards to geography.

Then I concede, i didn't mean to generalize, but when you see where the extreme side of people seems to fester, you have to figure this is where the problem will come from.

[Gary_Busey]

I don't think you can lump NC in with states like Alabama and Mississippi anymore. Obama won NC, we voted in a democratic governor and a democratic senator.

[Yelram]

Come on, through most of the discussions we have had about Obama, you have come up with the most far right things about this country going down in flames. When people, whether on the left or the right, go to the far side of their point, you sound like a completely unreasonable jackass.

Like what? Did you ever think it might be the current state of the nation? We arent exactly on great footing right now, and someone who wants to spread union influence, while taxing businesses, doesnt exactly sit well in my stomach. Someone who lies around every corner, and noone in the media calls him on it, just plain scares me. Right or Left. I voted for Obama in the primaries, and I liked what he said, he just lost me along the way. I no longer have any trust in his word. He's a politician pretending to be some sort of spiritual leader. And as far as extreme goes, I see you as just as extreme as me, if not moreso.

[Willam]

No, of course EVERYONE from the south is not a redneck. I live in Texas and have lived in Georgia and Flordia and I know this for a fact. In fact, I see fewer rednecks in Houston than honestly most people probably assume live here. But, if you ever go to the moutains of Georgia or in and out of Alabama or the rural areas of Texas, their redneck nature is quite extreme and their hatred for black people can be extreme. Obviously you will find it in other places, but there are a TON of them in those places and you know it. So get off your fucking high horse and accept there is a higher probablity of some redneck coming from Alabama and killing the president than there is of some guy from Hawaii doing the same thing.


Every been to Montana, Idaho, or any other western, sparsley populated state? You know, the states where militias tend to thrive. I'd say there is a much better chance of someone from there being dumb enough to try it.

And as for the mountain areas of the south, there is a BIG difference between a gun-totin' redneck that hates n*******s and the un-educated hicks of the mountains who have guns to feed themselves and don't really give a shit about anybody else, black or white, unless they are interfering with their way of living.

And I'll bet you my high horse that if someone trys to kill Obama (and I truly hope no one does) that they aren't from North or South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi or Louisiana.

[Whiffleball]

Can we not all concede that there are racists EVERYWHERE and that every state and region has a shot at producing the potential assassin of Barack Obama? No one place has a monopoly on ignorance, violence or hate crimes, y'know.

[The Batman]

Can we not all concede that there are racists EVERYWHERE and that every state and region has a shot at producing the potential assassin of Barack Obama? No one place has a monopoly on ignorance, violence or hate crimes, y'know.

yeah, what he said. can we move on now?

I hope that no one kills Obama and I don't think killing him would help the agenda of whoever the killer would be. Anyone disagree?

[Limp]

As a man from the south, I get EXTREMELY tired of people assuming we are all backwood hicks. The biggest rednecks I've ever seen come from Michigan, Ohio, and other north/midwest states. Not everyone in the south is a redneck you dumbass fool.
Shut yer mouth and git in tha truck boy. We's got a blackie to take care of.

[Yelram]

yeah, what he said. can we move on now?

I hope that no one kills Obama and I don't think killing him would help the agenda of whoever the killer would be. Anyone disagree?

Well I know it would make Joe Biden president, so I'd say, if he had something to do with it, then his agenda would certainly benefit.

[The Batman]

Well I know it would make Joe Biden president, so I'd say, if he had something to do with it, then his agenda would certainly benefit.

I think if Obama was killed it would be a martyr situation and there would be an uprising like never before.

[Limp]

I think if Obama was killed it would be a Mauder situation and there would be an uprising like never before.
Wanna retry that?

[mongo]

http://i34.tinypic.com/wahoqx.jpg

[The Batman]

Wanna retry that?

my spell check kicked in without my knowing. already fixed.

[taters]

Its fucking stupid and crazy to even suggest things like this. The secret service is not stupid, nor is it a bunch of guys who stand around the president elect at all times.

This thread, as well as the racist image Manning just posted goes into a list of 'yellow flags' by the SS.

The internet is the easiest place to search for threats, and shit like that send up the signals, even if not clearly.

Seriously folks, you may of well have posted a fucking kiddy porn jpg or link on the forum.

that being said if the worst does happen, the backlash against the far right (nazi's uberneocons, klansmen, racists) will be so massive and supported that they would be stomped out and illegitimized for a number of years. After that last nazi plot was foiled, the far-right message boards were filled with scared little nazi's claiming it was all a government set-up plan to give support to finally brining the hammer down on their operations and covens.

Im not saying I would be the first to sign up to hunt such people down, but I am not saying I wouldnt either. Nor am I saying a LOT of people would as well.

[The Batman]

Its fucking stupid and crazy to even suggest things like this. The secret service is not stupid, nor is it a bunch of guys who stand around the president elect at all times.

Why? If they murdered JFK and Lincoln, why is it stupid to suggest they might assasinate Obama for even dumber reasons?

[taters]

Why? If they murdered JFK and Lincoln, why is it stupid to suggest they might assasinate Obama for even dumber reasons?

I guess its not so stupid to bring it up, but making a thread out of it will draw attention.

Granted, this has probably gotten mentioned a thousand times on other boards, but I guarentee every one of those times is set as a 'monitor' flag in Washington.

You could call me paranoid, but its not illogical, or even unlikely, or at all impossible.

All Im saying is why bring heat down, not that anything here is illegal, and not that anyone here would have anything to do with that. However, those that would support it here *cough cough, Mongo, Cough, Goat*, I for one would have no problem with them getting a re-educational trip to their local federal office or police department.

But still, why bring the attention? Shit like this can cause problems. Anyone else remember the ordeal that happened with deadhead a while back?

[Tar Heel]

I don't think you can lump NC in with states like Alabama and Mississippi anymore. Obama won NC, we voted in a democratic governor and a democratic senator.

Eric Robert Rudolph

[Gary_Busey]

Eric Robert Rudolph
Timothy McVeigh

What's your point?

[redsox39]

Lived there dick face. You have made unreasonable arguments towards Obama being a bad president and people killing him won't only have to do with Race. As I understand it, a lot of people fear him being some sort of anti-christ or creating a path that will only destroy this country. Its fear that will get him killed, nothing else. Where that fear stem froms doesn't matter.


While I agree with You Batman, that there are LOTS of reasons why Obama might be killed, from Racial, to Religious, to the NRA crowd, you have to really think for a second.

Who benefits the most? It ain't the KKK or the Rednecks and the hardcore religious right, who have been just barely able to get with their shenanigans. There would be an out pouring of grief, KKK members (Ironically) would be lynched, and churches would burn.

And all the power would turn to the Democratic side because OBVIOUSLY it had to be a right wing plot to kill Obama.

I tell you what...damn, that would be a good movie...

[redsox39]

Im not saying I would be the first to sign up to hunt such people down, but I am not saying I wouldnt either. Nor am I saying a LOT of people would as well.

And While I still think you are a racially motivated prick, so are these guys, and I'll pick you up and we can hunt them down together.

The Ebony and Ivory Vigilante Squad!

[HAWK]

Why? If they murdered JFK and Lincoln, why is it stupid to suggest they might assasinate Obama for even dumber reasons?

Times have changed. And so has the tactics employed by the Secret Service. Do you think that there's been no serious threat against Dubya? I think it's safe to say he's one of the most hated presidents..yet he's still breathing.

The fact that Obama is black (and apparently the Anti-Christ too) will only increase the level of security and the methods used by the SS.

So, yes, I do think he'll make it 4-8 years.

[redsox39]

Timothy McVeigh

What's your point?

John Brown...oh, is that not kosher?





(kidding KIDDING!)

[Whiffleball]

I guess its not so stupid to bring it up, but making a thread out of it will draw attention.

Granted, this has probably gotten mentioned a thousand times on other boards, but I guarentee every one of those times is set as a 'monitor' flag in Washington.

You could call me paranoid, but its not illogical, or even unlikely, or at all impossible.

All Im saying is why bring heat down, not that anything here is illegal, and not that anyone here would have anything to do with that. However, those that would support it here *cough cough, Mongo, Cough, Goat*, I for one would have no problem with them getting a re-educational trip to their local federal office or police department.

But still, why bring the attention? Shit like this can cause problems. Anyone else remember the ordeal that happened with deadhead a while back?

There is so much garbage on the Internet I am skeptical if the Secret Service is sifting through all of it.

Even if they were to find GMF and this thread, who cares? As long as we are not in the stages of planning an assassination attempt or giving them any reason to believe that that is what anyone here intends to do, nothing will happen.

I understand why you're paranoid through, which is probably one of the reasons people don't like to talk about this topic openly.

I actually think it's kind of a pointless discussion because anyone who is famous is in danger of being knocked off by nutjobs and any minority is in dangerous of being a victim of a hate crime and EVERYONE is in danger of being a victim of violence. What's the point of worrying about it? None of us can see the future so all we can do is recognize there's a chance and that's about it.

HDZ574eh9Yw

[The Batman]

While I agree with You Batman, that there are LOTS of reasons why Obama might be killed, from Racial, to Religious, to the NRA crowd, you have to really think for a second.

Who benefits the most? It ain't the KKK or the Rednecks and the hardcore religious right, who have been just barely able to get with their shenanigans. There would be an out pouring of grief, KKK members (Ironically) would be lynched, and churches would burn.

And all the power would turn to the Democratic side because OBVIOUSLY it had to be a right wing plot to kill Obama.

I tell you what...damn, that would be a good movie...
Most of their reasons, stemming from some sort of fear. Whether its because he is the anti christ, because he is black, because he will take your guns away, all because of fear.

[redsox39]

Times have changed. And so has the tactics employed by the Secret Service. Do you think that there's been no serious threat against Dubya? I think it's safe to say he's one of the most hated presidents..yet he's still breathing.

The fact that Obama is black (and apparently the Anti-Christ too) will only increase the level of security and the methods used by the SS.

So, yes, I do think he'll make it 4-8 years.

Yeah, they got away with Movies about Killing Bush:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojWOWyHWj6M

A London Docu-drama abotu Killing Bush:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23365246-details/President+Bush+assassinated+in+new+TV+docudrama/article.do

A book entitled "How to ASSASSINATE Bush"
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/51358

And more books after that:
http://www.pierretristam.com/Bobst/Archives/CN123005.htm

and Multiple Songs about Killing president Bush, I think the SS has better things to do than watch over us discussing it. that being said...can I get him in my death pool?

[Yelram]

Its fucking stupid and crazy to even suggest things like this. The secret service is not stupid, nor is it a bunch of guys who stand around the president elect at all times.

This thread, as well as the racist image Manning just posted goes into a list of 'yellow flags' by the SS.

The internet is the easiest place to search for threats, and shit like that send up the signals, even if not clearly.

Seriously folks, you may of well have posted a fucking kiddy porn jpg or link on the forum.

that being said if the worst does happen, the backlash against the far right (nazi's uberneocons, klansmen, racists) will be so massive and supported that they would be stomped out and illegitimized for a number of years. After that last nazi plot was foiled, the far-right message boards were filled with scared little nazi's claiming it was all a government set-up plan to give support to finally brining the hammer down on their operations and covens.

Im not saying I would be the first to sign up to hunt such people down, but I am not saying I wouldnt either. Nor am I saying a LOT of people would as well.

HAHHAHAHAHA you are crazier than I thought there bro. I love how you are so blinded by your ideological stereotypes. You really remind me of some old dumb racist. You actually remind me most of the skit from Dave Chapelle with the Black KKK member. This is gonna be a fun 4 years.

[Yelram]

Most of their reasons, stemming from some sort of fear. Whether its because he is the anti christ, because he is black, because he will take your guns away, all because of fear.

Ummm, at what point is it alright to be afraid? Are you the one who throws the checkered flag, and decides "hey wait, maybe we have a reason to be afraid", or do we just wait until its too late?

[HAWK]

HAHHAHAHAHA you are crazier than I thought there bro. I love how you are so blinded by your ideological stereotypes. You really remind me of some old dumb racist. You actually remind me most of the skit from Dave Chapelle with the Black KKK member. This is gonna be a fun 4 years.



What do you mean 'bro?'

[The Batman]

Ummm, at what point is it alright to be afraid? Are you the one who throws the checkered flag, and decides "hey wait, maybe we have a reason to be afraid", or do we just wait until its too late?

Let me ask you why are you afraid now? Do you even have a good reason? A concrete one that isn't based on the speculation that he is a terrorist or some sort of mole.

[redsox39]

Yelram, don't take this the wrong way. Example only.

People can be afraid for lots of reason. Hell, people are afraid in haunted houses that they PAID to go into where they know everything is FAKE! (Btw, at least once, work in a hauted house, fucking hilariously awesome)


What if people are bigger pussies than you? what gives you the right to say they have unfounded fears? Are you "Afraid" to skydive? do you think other people might be? Are their fears unfounded? Are they not concrete?

[Yelram]

Let me ask you why are you afraid now? Do you even have a good reason? A concrete one that isn't based on the speculation that he is a terrorist or some sort of mole.

That we are now heading into one of the most difficult times in our nations history, and we elected a blank slate. Did you read his website? I dont even know what the guy stands for. Noone does. Heres what i'm afraid of.

Increased labor costs, and government taxation at a corporate level forces many of our few remaining manufacturing industries out of this country entirely. Obama attempts to remedy this with protectionism, and tariffs, coupled with government buyouts(handouts). Many of our business institutions that are now in the private sector will move towards being controlled by the Government. Tyrants see Obama as a gullible sucker that they can manipulate, and we end up with another "Jimmy Carter" era of diplomacy. We withdraw from Iraq, just in time for Iran to come across the border. We close Gitmo, and send some of the most hardened terrorists either within the borders of the US, or to some other country who will probably deposit them back on the battlefield. I believe he will have such a hard time living up to the hype, that people will soon find him as a focal point for their dissatisfaction. Alot of his ideas are scary. I dont want a civilian police force, thats as well funded as the US military. I dont want the price of Electricity to be raised as the result of a ridiculous cap and trade system. Not to mention the devastation that will cause the coal mining industry. I dont like 4 trillion dollars worth of proposed spending when we are already bailing out banks, and car manufacturers. Obama changes his opinion more than a menopausal woman.

[The Batman]

Yelram, don't take this the wrong way. Example only.

People can be afraid for lots of reason. Hell, people are afraid in haunted houses that they PAID to go into where they know everything is FAKE! (Btw, at least once, work in a hauted house, fucking hilariously awesome)


What if people are bigger pussies than you? what gives you the right to say they have unfounded fears? Are you "Afraid" to skydive? do you think other people might be? Are their fears unfounded? Are they not concrete?

Unfounded fears I would think create the larger problems when those people react.
and most people have perfectly rational reasons to be fearful, but a lot of the ones coming from the election seemed to be irrational and unfounded, like the whole Obama terrorist thing.

[Whiffleball]

That we are now heading into one of the most difficult times in our nations history, and we elected a blank slate. Did you read his website? I dont even know what the guy stands for. Noone does. Heres what i'm afraid of.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

It has bullet points and YouTube videos and everything!

Hint: some reading/viewing required. That may have been the problem.

Increased labor costs, and government taxation at a corporate level forces many of our few remaining manufacturing industries out of this country entirely. Obama attempts to remedy this with protectionism, and tariffs, coupled with government buyouts(handouts). Many of our business institutions that are now in the private sector will move towards being controlled by the Government.

Protectionism makes sense because we do have a responsibility to get the American economy in order, not just allowing free trade to go on unhindered, with us getting raped in the process.

Where were the strings attached to the bail outs we handed out? If anything, the fact that Paulson turned around and said, "Remember that shit we said the bailout is for? It's being used for something else" is an indication that the government didn't take enough of a role in overseeing how the money was going to be spent.

Usually when you give out a loan or whatever, you ask to see a business plan or something. Where was the plan from the banks? Where is the plan from the Big 3? In the UK, they got something for their money. What are we getting?

Tyrants see Obama as a gullible sucker that they can manipulate, and we end up with another "Jimmy Carter" era of diplomacy. We withdraw from Iraq, just in time for Iran to come across the border. We close Gitmo, and send some of the most hardened terrorists either within the borders of the US, or to some other country who will probably deposit them back on the battlefield.

Tyrants may very well think that, but where is the credible evidence that he really is a gullible sucker? He has talked tough about defeating those who would destroy the world but he's been painted as a pansy because he won't do shit like invade countries preemptively or violate the Geneva Convention. Oh noes! Because that shit has worked so well so far!

I believe he will have such a hard time living up to the hype, that people will soon find him as a focal point for their dissatisfaction. Alot of his ideas are scary. I dont want a civilian police force, thats as well funded as the US military.

He will disappoint a lot of people but being hyped as the Messiah and being a regular human being will do that. :/

That bullshit about a Civilian Defense Force is crap. He just said that our national security forces (defense forces) staffed by civilians (non-military personnel) will be well-funded and well-equipped. He said nothing about setting up a new organization anywhere and if it was a secret plot, why did he say that much in a prepared speech? Some nuts took a vague statement and injected in their own assumptions to scare people and satisfy their own paranoia.

I dont want the price of Electricity to be raised as the result of a ridiculous cap and trade system. Not to mention the devastation that will cause the coal mining industry.

You were going to get either with either McCain or Obama as both were in favor of cap and trade and "clean coal". By the way, clean coal will still be around; it's just traditional coal mining will be phased out. Gasp! Green technologies to help our environment?! Oh noes!

I dont like 4 trillion dollars worth of proposed spending when we are already bailing out banks, and car manufacturers. Obama changes his opinion more than a menopausal woman.

Well, I don't like massive economic deregulation and fighting two wars (one that was totally unnecessary) coupled with incompetent spending, but that's what we got under Bush that has given us this huge deficit and the bailouts. At least with Obama I have hope that the money will be spent more wisely. I don't think anyone really has a problem with spending as long as the results are beneficial.

[Yelram]

Unfounded fears I would think create the larger problems when those people react.
and most people have perfectly rational reasons to be fearful, but a lot of the ones coming from the election seemed to be irrational and unfounded, like the whole Obama terrorist thing.

Its not exactly unfounded, you just dont want to look into it. And I'm not saying that I totally believe that, just that there are some disturbing "coincidences" in Obama's past, and if you are SOO for him, that you disregard anything against him as irrational, and unfounded. You'll never know.
Whiffle
Tt2yGzHfy7s

I dont know what else he could mean by that. I assume national guard is considered military. I read his site more than once, and its changed MANY MANY times, just like his positions. You will see just about everything on that site completely disregarded. That was campaign strategy, now its going to be consolidation of power.

[The Batman]

Its not exactly unfounded, you just dont want to look into it. And I'm not saying that I totally believe that, just that there are some disturbing "coincidences" in Obama's past, and if you are SOO for him, that you disregard anything against him as irrational, and unfounded. You'll never know.

But to think that this is one huge conspiracy to get someone like that in the white house is a bit of a stretch. I mean there are some things that deserve looking into, but to put a man into power just so he can destroy everything seems a bit off. And its not about being for him or against him. They said a lot of things about John McCain we all knew wasn't true, so we just ignored it.

[Yelram]

But to think that this is one huge conspiracy to get someone like that in the white house is a bit of a stretch. I mean there are some things that deserve looking into, but to put a man into power just so he can destroy everything seems a bit off. And its not about being for him or against him. They said a lot of things about John McCain we all knew wasn't true, so we just ignored it.

Thats where we differ. I trust neither, you trust both.

[wonderllama]

I don't mean to be technical here but, if he gets shot...won't that actually BE the end of his Presidency?

Okay...I'll go back in the corner....

[taters]

HAHHAHAHAHA you are crazier than I thought there bro. I love how you are so blinded by your ideological stereotypes. You really remind me of some old dumb racist. You actually remind me most of the skit from Dave Chapelle with the Black KKK member. This is gonna be a fun 4 years.

I wont tell you again to read my fucking post before commenting to it.

I was saying there is no point bringing heat to the GMF that could be avoided or at least placed in a more serious context.

And YES, people are watching this forum, as they do many other popular ones. I guess you dont remember the deadhead affair here a while back, or the troop pic fandango at the former 'nowthatsfuckedup' forum, or the COUNTLESS ebaum suits, etc etc.

If you dont want to take the word of a black guy obama supporter, take the word of someone whos done work in torts, civil litigation and taken legal coursework in criminal justice (and sorta worked in the field). playing it safe is usually more rewarding and ALWAYS cheaper than not.

[rc113943]

I guess its not so stupid to bring it up, but making a thread out of it will draw attention.

Granted, this has probably gotten mentioned a thousand times on other boards, but I guarentee every one of those times is set as a 'monitor' flag in Washington.

You could call me paranoid, but its not illogical, or even unlikely, or at all impossible.

All Im saying is why bring heat down, not that anything here is illegal, and not that anyone here would have anything to do with that. However, those that would support it here *cough cough, Mongo, Cough, Goat*, I for one would have no problem with them getting a re-educational trip to their local federal office or police department.

But still, why bring the attention? Shit like this can cause problems. Anyone else remember the ordeal that happened with deadhead a while back?


i wasn't around for that, anyone want to get me caught up on the deadhead thing?

[rc113943]

nevermind
http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060601/NEWS0107/606010342/1001&nav_category=

[Tar Heel]

I never actually read that. thanks

[Stax]

taters, this has nothing to do with this thread but you need to read exit polls better and fix your sig. While it is true that Black TURNOUT didn't particularly increase in Cali (so you could make fun of that bit of Claydon's post) African Americans and Latinos are the primary force behind Prop 8's passage. They are the two ethnic groups (along with "Other" at 1%) that broke FOR Prop 8 (70-30 for African Americans, 53-47 for Latinos). Whites and Asians (the other two major ethnic groups not included in "Other") both narrowly voted against it.

[Yelram]

taters, this has nothing to do with this thread but you need to read exit polls better and fix your sig. While it is true that Black TURNOUT didn't particularly increase in Cali (so you could make fun of that bit of Claydon's post) African Americans and Latinos are the primary force behind Prop 8's passage. They are the two ethnic groups (along with "Other" at 1%) that broke FOR Prop 8 (70-30 for African Americans, 53-47 for Latinos). Whites and Asians (the other two major ethnic groups not included in "Other") both narrowly voted against it.

Not to mention that the math is totally wrong too.

7% of 10% is .7%.

[taters]

taters, this has nothing to do with this thread but you need to read exit polls better and fix your sig. While it is true that Black TURNOUT didn't particularly increase in Cali (so you could make fun of that bit of Claydon's post) African Americans and Latinos are the primary force behind Prop 8's passage. They are the two ethnic groups (along with "Other" at 1%) that broke FOR Prop 8 (70-30 for African Americans, 53-47 for Latinos). Whites and Asians (the other two major ethnic groups not included in "Other") both narrowly voted against it.

Yes, but blacks only contributed 10% of the vote. Even if 100% of blacks supported it, thats only 10%. White republicans, and white christians overwhelmingly supported it. They are who won it.

This 'blame the black people' BS is just that, BS. Yea, its wrong that 7 out of 10 blacks voted for it, but thats not 100%, and the people pointing to blacks saying 'blame them' are the relgious and conservatives whites, the two groups who overwhelmingly voted for it, and who constituted 80% of the supporting vote for it.


The sig is there because I fucking hate Claydon. Not really to explain to others, just to show hes a bigoted retard.

[redsox39]

Yes, but blacks only contributed 10% of the vote. Even if 100% of blacks supported it, thats only 10%. White republicans, and white christians overwhelmingly supported it. They are who won it.

This 'blame the black people' BS is just that, BS. Yea, its wrong that 7 out of 10 blacks voted for it, but thats not 100%, and the people pointing to blacks saying 'blame them' are the relgious and conservatives whites, the two groups who overwhelmingly voted for it, and who constituted 80% of the supporting vote for it.


The sig is there because I fucking hate Claydon. Not really to explain to others, just to show hes a bigoted retard.


What percentage did the Bill pass by?

How many more black voters came out this time around?

Just saying...if the Blacks voted 30-70 instead of 70-30 would the Results be different?

Obviously, the entire blame cannot fall on a race of people making up 10%...however, with out that 10% the vote changes, so you can argue it both ways.

[Yelram]

Yes, but blacks only contributed 10% of the vote. Even if 100% of blacks supported it, thats only 10%. White republicans, and white christians overwhelmingly supported it. They are who won it.

This 'blame the black people' BS is just that, BS. Yea, its wrong that 7 out of 10 blacks voted for it, but thats not 100%, and the people pointing to blacks saying 'blame them' are the relgious and conservatives whites, the two groups who overwhelmingly voted for it, and who constituted 80% of the supporting vote for it.


The sig is there because I fucking hate Claydon. Not really to explain to others, just to show hes a bigoted retard.

Wow, you really amaze me with your stupidity sometimes. I mean, its scary to think someone as totally inept as you is even ATTEMPTING to practice law. I cant wait for the first time you get laughed out of a court room.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wocG2evroyQ/SRSsBn9uM1I/AAAAAAAAGGc/acjcuHKEv9w/s400/cnnpropo8.jpg

Wow, whites voted against it as a group, and blacks OVERWHELMINGLY, MORE THAN ANY OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC VOTED FOR IT. Is that something you cant understand? It shows one thing. BLACK PEOPLE VOTE AS A PACK MIND. Which as much as you would like to disagree, when every other demographic is to one side or the other a couple percentage points, and blacks have a 40% gap, its what they like to call STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT. So lets say we take that 20% from the black yes's and transfer it to the black nos. 20% of 10% of the vote is 2%, lets see what the actual vote was on it. 52.2 - 47.8
So that would change it to. 50.2 - 49.8, obviously this isnt a game breaker, but it sure does make it a hell of alot closer. Thats assuming a 50-50 vote for AAs. If we make it match the white vote, it gets even closer with another .1 percentage making it 50.1- 49.9. Again, it doesnt flop it, but it sure makes it a hell of alot closer. If the percentage of blacks that voted for Obama would have voted against prop 8, it wouldn't have passed, plain and simple. So take your 3rd grade math, and shove it.

[redsox39]

Wow, you really amaze me with your stupidity sometimes. I mean, its scary to think someone as totally inept as you is even ATTEMPTING to practice law. I cant wait for the first time you get laughed out of a court room.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wocG2evroyQ/SRSsBn9uM1I/AAAAAAAAGGc/acjcuHKEv9w/s400/cnnpropo8.jpg

Wow, whites voted against it as a group, and blacks OVERWHELMINGLY, MORE THAN ANY OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC VOTED FOR IT. Is that something you cant understand? It shows one thing. BLACK PEOPLE VOTE AS A PACK MIND. Which as much as you would like to disagree, when every other demographic is to one side or the other a couple percentage points, and blacks have a 40% gap, its what they like to call STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT. So lets say we take that 20% from the black yes's and transfer it to the black nos. 20% of 10% of the vote is 2%, lets see what the actual vote was on it. 52.2 - 47.8
So that would change it to. 50.2 - 49.8, obviously this isnt a game breaker, but it sure does make it a hell of alot closer. Thats assuming a 50-50 vote for AAs. If we make it match the white vote, it gets even closer with another .1 percentage making it 50.1- 49.9. Again, it doesnt flop it, but it sure makes it a hell of alot closer. If the percentage of blacks that voted for Obama would have voted against prop 8, it would have passed, plain and simple. So take your 3rd grade math, and shove it.


I have to give it to him. You can say about 50-50 for all other races...except for blacks.

[taters]

Wow, whites voted against it as a group, and blacks OVERWHELMINGLY, MORE THAN ANY OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC VOTED FOR IT. .

Are you ready for me to, once again, show you what kind of fucking retard you are, and how your lack of reading skills show this? Lets start with your quoting of me, Ill re-requote it for you

This 'blame the black people' BS is just that, BS. Yea, its wrong that 7 out of 10 blacks voted for it, but thats not 100%, and the people pointing to blacks saying 'blame them' are the relgious and conservatives whites, the two groups who overwhelmingly voted for it, and who constituted 80% of the supporting vote for it.


Now, you just claimed

Wow, whites voted against it as a group, and blacks OVERWHELMINGLY, MORE THAN ANY OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC VOTED FOR IT.

Oh, you say?? White conservatives and white religious people didnt constitute the MAJORITY of the supporting votes, and where NOT the demographic that overwhelmingly supported it??



http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/
Pardon the lack of img, Im still figuring out google chrome and got rid of IE and Ff for this and safari.

Vote by Party ID

Total Yes No

Democrat (42%) 36% 64%

Republican (29%) 82% 18%

Independent (28%) 46% 54%

Vote by Race and Party ID

White Democrats (21%) 21% 79%

White Republicans (24%) 82% 18%

Vote by Ideology

Liberal (26%) 22% 78%

Conservative (30%) 85% 15%


It doesnt take a rhodes scholar to see that my post, that YOU quoted religious and conservatives whites, the two groups who overwhelmingly voted for it, and who constituted 80% of the supporting vote for it.

Is true, if 85% of conservatives voted for it, and they represented a larger portion of the vote than liberals, THEY HAD VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY FOR IT.

85% = overwhelming.

If 85% doesnt equate to overwhelming in your mind, let me know where you work, because I have a feeling this winter the locals of your town are going to have a shit ton of heating and piping problems if you provided any services to them.

PS- a good lawyer doesnt spend too much time in court, it runs up clients bills, and is a sign that you suck an negotiating. Not that I expect you would know that. Consider it free advice in choosing a lawyer the next time someone sues you for installing a water heater upside down or something.

[Claydon]

Speculation of a president living until the end of their term is really lame and I believe is just a non debate but rather a yelling fest from one extremist point of view to another. With that said, I feel that is conversation is about as fucking gay as when people on here were discussing if bush would pull something so as to allow him to stay in office beyond his term, or that bush/cheney planned 9/11.

[Morfin]

Claydon, be quiet. Yelram and taters are fighting about Prop 8, even though there is a separate thread for it. Obviously, this issue transcends threads. Your attempt to get this thread back on track is juvenile and shows your lack of concern for the seriousness of the Prop 8 discussion and a TOTAL lack of respect for the sage battle of GMF's own Plato and Socrates: Yelram and taters.

[Claydon]

Claydon, be quiet. Yelram and taters are fighting about Prop 8, even though there is a separate thread for it. Obviously, this issue transcends threads. Your attempt to get this thread back on track is juvenile and shows your lack of concern for the seriousness of the Prop 8 discussion and a TOTAL lack of respect for the sage battle of GMF's own Plato and Socrates: Yelram and taters.

FOOL OF A TOOK!

I CREATED THE GHEY MARRIAGE THREAD!!



oh wait!

[taters]

^ In all fairness, I didnt bring the issue up here. Stax, cool as he may be, was the one to bring it up here. Yelram, tard as he is, drug it through. Ive only responded.

You cant tickle the horses balls then cry foul when he kicks you.

[Claydon]

^ In all fairness, I didnt bring the issue up here. Stax, cool as he may be, was the one to bring it up here. Yelram, tard as he is, drug it through. Ive only responded.

You cant tickle the horses balls then cry foul when he kicks you.

well you do remind me of horses balls...ie useless.

[The Batman]

Speculation of a president living until the end of their term is really lame and I believe is just a non debate but rather a yelling fest from one extremist point of view to another. With that said, I feel that is conversation is about as fucking gay as when people on here were discussing if bush would pull something so as to allow him to stay in office beyond his term, or that bush/cheney planned 9/11.

It would be totally lame if it wasn't a black guy, but honestly, if any of our presidents were going to be assasinated, he would probably be on top. And saddly, its for dumb reasons.

[Claydon]

It would be totally lame if it wasn't a black guy, but honestly, if any of our presidents were going to be assasinated, he would probably be on top. And saddly, its for dumb reasons.

That is a ridiculous statement, eveyone loved reagan and he was nearly taken out. color has nothing to do with this.

[bifftannen]

Based on the level of security that the Secret Service has on these guys I doubt anyone with a gun will be able to get near him. I'm sure many will try though

[The Batman]

That is a ridiculous statement, eveyone loved reagan and he was nearly taken out. color has nothing to do with this.

Don't be ignorant. Obviously everyone didn't love Regan. Someone did SHOOT him. Why did that guy shoot him anyway?

Color has everything to do with it. There is a segment of the population that is totally freaking out. Its not even January and the KKK is trying to kill him. Hell around here, my cowoker has complete distain for Obama just because he is black. I have tried many times to try to talk some sense to him, that Obama is not like some black thug off the street.

[Claydon]

Don't be ignorant. Obviously everyone didn't love Regan. Someone did SHOOT him. Why did that guy shoot him anyway?

Color has everything to do with it. There is a segment of the population that is totally freaking out. Its not even January and the KKK is trying to kill him. Hell around here, my cowoker has complete distain for Obama just because he is black. I have tried many times to try to talk some sense to him, that Obama is not like some black thug off the street.

Again, the more you post the more of a fool you prove yourself to be. Reagan was shot by a schitzophrenic man that was in love with jodi foster, and he believed his delusions that suggested that by killing reagan jodi foster would love him.

[Pax Britannia]

Why did that guy shoot him anyway?

To impress Jodie Foster. No i'm not joking.

[Phil Theehor]

Don't be ignorant. Obviously everyone didn't love Regan. Someone did SHOOT him. Why did that guy shoot him anyway?


He shot him, Bruce, to impress Jodi Foster. We didn't know she was a dyke then.

EDIT: Fuck Pax, Fuck Morfin

[Claydon]

no fucking kidding.

the P/C section seems to be hijacked by conspiracy and babbling.

[Claibo]

It would be totally lame if it wasn't a black guy, but honestly, if any of our presidents were going to be assasinated, he would probably be on top. And saddly, its for dumb reasons.

I think that you have been added to the Office of Homeland Security's "to do" list. I hope they dont find the gay/child porn on your computer when your apt gets raided.

Enjoy the cock meat sandwich your new roomie has for you in the cell block.


Want extra mayo on that?

[The Batman]

Again, the more you post the more of a fool you prove yourself to be. Reagan was shot by a schitzophrenic man that was in love with jodi foster, and he believed his delusions that suggested that by killing reagan jodi foster would love him.

Hey, i said i knew nothing about why someone shot him. I didn't pretend to know anything about this guy.

[The Batman]

I think that you have been added to the Office of Homeland Security's "to do" list. I hope they dont find the gay/child porn on your computer when your apt gets raided.

Enjoy the cock meat sandwich your new roomie has for you in the cell block.


Want extra mayo on that?

I hope you don't find those naked pictures and videos of your mom that I have. and thanks on the mayo. Your mom seems to enjoy it enough for the both of us.

[Claydon]

wow...just wow.

this thread should be locked.

[Phil Theehor]

Nice to see that The Batman has a "Momma Joke" holster on his utility belt

[The Batman]

To impress Jodie Foster. No i'm not joking.

That is some crazy shit. Did he go after Deniro too?

[Claydon]

Nice to see that The Batman has a "Momma Joke" holster on his utility belt

You mean a "Fail" holster on his utility belt.

[Claibo]

I hope you don't find those naked pictures and videos of your mom that I have. and thanks on the mayo. Your mom seems to enjoy it enough for the both of us.


reaching....

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:1vr-c99VmIRuWM:http://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/images/piedrawing005.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/images/piedrawing005.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/wordpress/2005/08/25/prize-drawing-winners-announced/&usg=__VRgjSssf-M96I5p0SkLsMU25Wa0=&h=338&w=450&sz=14&hl=en&start=4&tbnid=1vr-c99VmIRuWM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcream%2Bface%2Bman%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3De n%26safe%3Doff) <<< The Batman @ NAMBLA party.

[The Batman]

reaching....

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:1vr-c99VmIRuWM:http://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/images/piedrawing005.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/images/piedrawing005.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/wordpress/2005/08/25/prize-drawing-winners-announced/&usg=__VRgjSssf-M96I5p0SkLsMU25Wa0=&h=338&w=450&sz=14&hl=en&start=4&tbnid=1vr-c99VmIRuWM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcream%2Bface%2Bman%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3De n%26safe%3Doff) <<< The Batman @ NAMBLA party.

http://tcritic.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/your-mom2.jpg

[Yelram]

Are you ready for me to, once again, show you what kind of fucking retard you are, and how your lack of reading skills show this? Lets start with your quoting of me, Ill re-requote it for you




Now, you just claimed



Oh, you say?? White conservatives and white religious people didnt constitute the MAJORITY of the supporting votes, and where NOT the demographic that overwhelmingly supported it??



http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/
Pardon the lack of img, Im still figuring out google chrome and got rid of IE and Ff for this and safari.


It doesnt take a rhodes scholar to see that my post, that YOU quoted

Is true, if 85% of conservatives voted for it, and they represented a larger portion of the vote than liberals, THEY HAD VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY FOR IT.

85% = overwhelming.

If 85% doesnt equate to overwhelming in your mind, let me know where you work, because I have a feeling this winter the locals of your town are going to have a shit ton of heating and piping problems if you provided any services to them.

PS- a good lawyer doesnt spend too much time in court, it runs up clients bills, and is a sign that you suck an negotiating. Not that I expect you would know that. Consider it free advice in choosing a lawyer the next time someone sues you for installing a water heater upside down or something.


Tater, I never said that religious conservative whites didnt vote for it, thats like saying the sky is blue. Obviously the term conservative, and religious implies a certain direction of political thought. I would like to assume that all things being equal, that within any racial group, the disagreement of opposing views would be somewhat equally divided, with a few outliers. What these results show is a standard deviation of a statistically significant value, something that can be attributed to a specific group of voters, that politically, typically vote the opposite way. That shows something that people didnt realize. Black voters who vote democratic are overwhelmingly against gay marriage, at a percentage only seen in a subset (religious, conservative) of the white population. Your understanding of population dynamics is about as well rounded as your english, spelling, math, and logic skills. If 95% of blacks would have voted against it, like they voted for obama, or even 52% of blacks, it wouldnt have passed. You said that the 10% didnt have anything to do with it, as if the nunbers dont speak for themselves.

[Morfin]

And now we're back to Prop 8 after that little momma/gay discussion.

I know, just for kicks, why don't we discuss the thread topic? Because I really think we need to analyze whether the Secret Service is monitoring GMF. You know, just in case.

[Claydon]

LOCK!

[Claibo]

And now we're back to Prop 8 after that little momma/gay discussion.

I know, just for kicks, why don't we discuss the thread topic? Because I really think we need to analyze whether the Secret Service is monitoring GMF. You know, just in case.

I am sure GMF is a hotbed of terrorist activities.

[Pax Britannia]

Well we do have Arab and Irish members.

[The Batman]

And now we're back to Prop 8 after that little momma/gay discussion.

I know, just for kicks, why don't we discuss the thread topic? Because I really think we need to analyze whether the Secret Service is monitoring GMF. You know, just in case.

In highschool I had a friend named Patrick that openly on some website called for the death of Bill Clinton and 2 days later the secret service was knocking on his door. Then he was grounded for like 2 months.

[Claibo]

In highschool I had a friend named Patrick that openly on some website called for the death of Bill Clinton and 2 days later the secret service was knocking on his door. Then he was grounded for like 2 months.

Sack of shit Liar. admit it... it was you calling for the death of heterosexuality, and you didnt get grounded... you got donkey punched.

[Claibo]

Well we do have Arab and Irish members.

I retract my previous stmt.

[taters]

That is a ridiculous statement, eveyone loved reagan and he was nearly taken out. color has nothing to do with this.

Yea, color has nothing to do with it...other than being the primary motivator if extremists who have already claimed to and make plans at attempts at his life.

Brilliant.

[The Batman]

Sack of shit Liar. admit it... it was you calling for the death of heterosexuality, and you didnt get grounded... you got donkey punched.

something is wrong with you.

[taters]

Tater, I never said that religious conservative whites didnt vote for it, thats like saying the sky is blue.

And I never said (just) white where the overwhelming supporters, I said conservative and religious ones were. You either didnt read that or werent paying attention.

[Claibo]

something is wrong with you.

you have no fucking idea.... LOL WUT

[Morfin]

In highschool I had a friend named Patrick that openly on some website called for the death of Bill Clinton and 2 days later the secret service was knocking on his door. Then he was grounded for like 2 months.

The Secret Service grounded your friend? Those bastards.

[Claydon]

Yea, color has nothing to do with it...other than being the primary motivator if extremists who have already claimed to and make plans at attempts at his life.

Brilliant.

Yes, brilliant. You are supposedly black, and you are clearly an extremist of the worst kind. A Victicrat. (A person who grew up with the belief that you are a victim and the world/government owes you everything).

You would do well in Santa Barbara, the sense of entitlement amongst the population is choking.

[The Batman]

The Secret Service grounded your friend? Those bastards.

lol. that would have been cool. His mom took his car away and he wasn't allowed to go out on the weekends. He was always a dick, so we were alright with him not being around for a while.

[taters]

Yes, brilliant. You are supposedly black, and you are clearly an extremist of the worst kind. A Victicrat. (A person who grew up with the belief that you are a victim and the world/government owes you everything).

You would do well in Santa Barbara, the sense of entitlement amongst the population is choking.



Dude, stfu. You clearly don t know what the fuck your talking about. Your weird assed claims of me being 'an extremist' for thinking the proven and obvious (that racists want to take shots at the president elect), a 'racist' for stereotyping liberals and conservatives across racial lines (impling that you believe conservatives are a race, something only a retard whos never read a dictionary would think), and now a viticrat, a word which I guarantee you probably never heard in your life, and read in some extremist nujob (elders) blog and thought to use it here. Its not a word.

Im not a victim of anything that everyone else in this country is, has been, or victimizes. Class, Race, Religion, Political Orientation, all are bullshit differentiations that the not-as-stupid use on the stupid to get some or all of what they want. Dumb fucks like you run with it (as seen in the quote in my sig) not even knowing the 'bigger picture'. Not saying I do, but I know history shows the cycle of one.

Im not a 'viticrat'. I probably already make more money than you will whenever you graduate high school and quit out of college to blow trades in park bathrooms for a living. Im more educated than you will probably ever be, and well on my way to (I hope) decent levels of accomplishment. You need to peg people to make your arguments, but you (and a few others here) have no basis. Im not some 'liberal yuppy' or some 'green hippy'. Im not even in the actual catagory of 'liberal', but because the country needs simplified, easy to understand 'yes or no' explanations of politics, I guess youll have to lobb me into that catagory. When you figure out what wing Socio-Libertarians, or Capito-Syndicalist fall into, peg me in.


Im not a 'racist', because I dont stereotype on the basis of race. Income, maybe, Political Wing, definitly, but not race. I do, and will continue, to bring up historical, legal and statistical facts about race. They are ugly for some people, but too bad. They are the facts. And your habitual response to negative facts toward your group (whites) with irrelevant (based on the topics) counter facts about black people may be true (only about half the ones you claim are, at best), but dont for one bit excuse or change the facts I give. Its like calling a pederast a pederast and having him call you an alcoholic in retaliation. No connection, only cheap, unrelated counter attacks. OR, in this case, calling you a former internet stalker, and having you call me a so-called 'viticrat'.

Do yourself a favor and stfu. Or grow up. Thats not advice for here at the GMF, its for Real life in the Real World. Your mom's only gonna let you keep your room for so long.

I would request a LOCK if it were requestable. It seems that a few folks seem dead intent on making every thread a 'This is unrelated, but I disagree with something Tater said, or is in his sig etc'.

[STDSkillz]

Tater, what is your field of study? And how long have you been in it? I'd like to know where all the $$ is at.

[taters]

Tater, what is your field of study? And how long have you been in it? I'd like to know where all the $$ is at.

Law. Less than 2 years. Public and Private (not my own...YET) Practice. I wont say too much (as mentioned earlier in the thread, this type of thing CAN cause future problems), but I will say if you are willing to sacrifice sleep, work odd hours, relocate often, and start at the bottom, theres still plenty money out there. Granted, its getting tight now, but all that means in law is that you must look into different area's of practice, and plan ahead. Thats to say if Money is the primary goal. Its not mine, though it does make things nicer.

I have to stop myself, or Ill start ranting. But I will say make sure money is the main thing you want, or that its all you need to get you what you really want, because if its not, Ive seen and heard from a lot of people that have burnt out right out of the door making a shit ton of money but doing stuff they either hate, or dont give a damn about.

[freegood]

Dude, stfu. You clearly don t know what the fuck your talking about. Your weird assed claims of me being 'an extremist' for thinking the proven and obvious (that racists want to take shots at the president elect), a 'racist' for stereotyping liberals and conservatives across racial lines (impling that you believe conservatives are a race, something only a retard whos never read a dictionary would think), and now a viticrat, a word which I guarantee you probably never heard in your life, and read in some extremist nujob (elders) blog and thought to use it here. Its not a word.

Im not a victim of anything that everyone else in this country is, has been, or victimizes. Class, Race, Religion, Political Orientation, all are bullshit differentiations that the not-as-stupid use on the stupid to get some or all of what they want. Dumb fucks like you run with it (as seen in the quote in my sig) not even knowing the 'bigger picture'. Not saying I do, but I know history shows the cycle of one.

Im not a 'viticrat'. I probably already make more money than you will whenever you graduate high school and quit out of college to blow trades in park bathrooms for a living. Im more educated than you will probably ever be, and well on my way to (I hope) decent levels of accomplishment. You need to peg people to make your arguments, but you (and a few others here) have no basis. Im not some 'liberal yuppy' or some 'green hippy'. Im not even in the actual catagory of 'liberal', but because the country needs simplified, easy to understand 'yes or no' explanations of politics, I guess youll have to lobb me into that catagory. When you figure out what wing Socio-Libertarians, or Capito-Syndicalist fall into, peg me in.


Im not a 'racist', because I dont stereotype on the basis of race. Income, maybe, Political Wing, definitly, but not race. I do, and will continue, to bring up historical, legal and statistical facts about race. They are ugly for some people, but too bad. They are the facts. And your habitual response to negative facts toward your group (whites) with irrelevant (based on the topics) counter facts about black people may be true (only about half the ones you claim are, at best), but dont for one bit excuse or change the facts I give. Its like calling a pederast a pederast and having him call you an alcoholic in retaliation. No connection, only cheap, unrelated counter attacks. OR, in this case, calling you a former internet stalker, and having you call me a so-called 'viticrat'.

Do yourself a favor and stfu. Or grow up. Thats not advice for here at the GMF, its for Real life in the Real World. Your mom's only gonna let you keep your room for so long.

I would request a LOCK if it were requestable. It seems that a few folks seem dead intent on making every thread a 'This is unrelated, but I disagree with something Tater said, or is in his sig etc'.

Pure fucking pwnage

[Abnormal]

I think Obama will live until at least the end of his first term. It is known he is at risk and as such precautions are in place.

[Ocelot]

I'd be more concerned of McCain keeling over than Obama being assassinated.

[Claydon]

This thread is like a bad case of the crabs.

[madddawggg]

whether you like him or not you have to hope it doesn't happen

[kid_vidrio]

Cunts like the Farah guy in this article aren't helping.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obama-birth-certificate1dec08,0,7258812.story
"It'll plague Obama throughout his presidency. It'll be a nagging issue and a sore on his administration, much like Monica Lewinsky was on [ President Bill] Clinton (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics/government/presidents-of-the-united-states/bill-clinton-PEPLT007410.topic)," Farah said. "It's not going to go away and it will drive a wedge in an already divided public."
I was in a Dick's Sporting Goods with my kid the other day and she went to the bathroom which happened to be by the gun rack. I grew up hunting and wanted to get her a little BB gun to learn how to aim and fire. Actually, I already got her one but it was a little big. I gotta get that one the kid shoots his eye with in that movie. But I digress.
I got into a conversation with some guys and then stepped back to listen. The talk of AR-15 purchases going up (cuz BO is surely gonna outlaw them) and that he won't make it past March blew me away. Such open vitriol. The pimply teen behind the counter was bringing it on with his bravado. For a moment I thought I was in cyberspace, at GMF and Claydon! was playing the gun counter kid. It was kooky. I had to split. I'll buy the BB gun from Sports Authority or something.

[freegood]

He should've chose Hillary as running mate. Make even the craziest of lunatics think twice.

[HAWK]

Cunts like the Farah guy in this article aren't helping.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obama-birth-certificate1dec08,0,7258812.story

I was in a Dick's Sporting Goods with my kid the other day and she went to the bathroom which happened to be by the gun rack. I grew up hunting and wanted to get her a little BB gun to learn how to aim and fire. Actually, I already got her one but it was a little big. I gotta get that one the kid shoots his eye with in that movie. But I digress.
I got into a conversation with some guys and then stepped back to listen. The talk of AR-15 purchases going up (cuz BO is surely gonna outlaw them) and that he won't make it past March blew me away. Such open vitriol. The pimply teen behind the counter was bringing it on with his bravado. For a moment I thought I was in cyberspace, at GMF and Claydon! was playing the gun counter kid. It was kooky. I had to split. I'll buy the BB gun from Sports Authority or something.

I honestly don't understand the hatred. I've got to assume it's because Obama's black. I remember when Clinton was elected (both times) and there were pissed off people. But nothing quite as bitter as this. So it does make one wonder why the hatred?

With the way this country is right now we should all hope that Obama is the greatest president ever. Especially for our children's sake. People that hope this country struggles and fails via Obama failing as a president are fucking assholes. How un-American can you get?

I didn't vote for Bush but I wanted him to succeed as the president for all our sakes.

[dadaelus]

When I have heard people ranting about Obama it has less to do with color than with the fact that he beat a VietNam vet (And the republican party).

[HAWK]

Yes, some people are poor losers.

[Okie Medicvet]

I thought this was the vbookie thread about this..where is it again..I think I took a wrong turn at Albuquerque.

[tockit]

whether you like him or not you have to hope it doesn't happen
I totally agree!

Although I DO NOT agree with any of his proposed policies, the people have spoken, and he is the new commander and chief. The country needs to get behind him and pray he can turn this ship around.

Party differences should be shelved for the time being, and there needs to be a collaborative effort from both sides of the aisle to help foster a plan to get our economy straightened out ASAP!

An Obama assassination would throw our country and our economy into more disarray that it's already in, and would be potentially devastating to our national security and economic stability!

Besides that, these racists loons need to just go back to the hole they crawled out of (maybe get an education)!

[Ghostrider]

His expected gun and ammo taxes will be bad, his skin color is another thing. The flaunting of wealth on Vacation during a huge economic crisis helps nothing, and he thinks he can go places less than securely guarded.

I predict a raging Homo from San francisco will bitch slap him to death over the reverend appointee.

[taters]

Like I said earlier, if it did happen, it would warrant such radical changes in the country to finally come down on the 'free speech white nationalism' movement as they have in europe, exposing their members (not just joe the contracter, but Judge so-and-so and officer whatnot etc), and clamping down on them. And thats just on the legitimate side.

The social disarray something like that would cause should scare the racists and yahoos so much they should be first in line to protect him. They were already crying 'set up' when those two whackos were caught a few months ago. They arent stupid. A 'race war' wont happen by killing an american president, only a massively supported crackdown on people in the fringe that no one really likes or wants to be associated with publically, once and for all.

Think of the killings and detainings of southerners after Lincoln was killed. Magnify that to modern proportions, and add 40 million marginalized angry minorities, and a friendly congress.

[Morfin]

The backlash against racists and white power advocates would be incredibly strong, both due to the hatred for depriving America of a new, charismatic leader where America is hoping for a coming-together of red and blue, and at a time when the U.S. is trying to repair its shattered image abroad, and due to the incredible "guilt" the whites would feel.

(I wish this thread would be closed; I find the topic disgusting.)

[Ghostrider]

I would request a LOCK if it were requestable. It seems that a few folks seem dead intent on making every thread a 'This is unrelated, but I disagree with something Tater said, or is in his sig etc'.


Nobody would listen to you anyway tatertwat

[Claydon]

(I wish this thread would be closed; I find the topic disgusting.)


hence i want to mod the political/news threads.

but that is as likely as tater getting a brain stem.

[IdiotBrain]

It won't happen, but plenty of people will try.

Good luck to him in the coming years... I truly hope he does a better job as CinC than I tend to think he will.