LOST - Now a remake of Quantum Leap!

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Discuss Here.

[sdale4life]

I love this show, can't wait til it comes back.
Everytime you watch 1 question is answered and you have another 10 questions

[cypher]

Best drama on TV today. Love the twists. Totally unpredictable

[ShitBreak]

Good show, but best drama? Big fat no.

[cypher]

Sorry, I meant to say one of the best dramas

[thestronz]

Personally, I would say Lost is the best damn show of all-time. I know you can't necessarily compare different genres, but I look forward to it every week more than anything else in the past or present (with Dexter a close second).

I'd be happy to hear some other suggestions though, cause the hiatus in between seasons kills me.

[Neohesh]

Lost is STILL the most underrated show on TV. I always ask people if they have seen the show, and if they haven't, i always tell them they are missing the best hour of TV as of this moment (I won't compare to shows in the past).

[MDiver01]

how the fuck is it underrated?

[nuclearjew]

Because it's really not rated that highly and is essentially a cult show?

[BHM]

4-5 months before it's even on again. Damn you scheduling gods!!!!

[Fletch]

Once they started with the time travel and stuff I think they lost a lot of casual viewers who couldn't follow the story...and the people who need things wrapped up in an hour with no questions asked.

[ShitBreak]

I don't think it's a "cult" show, because it gets huge ratings. Cult shows usually don't have the best ratings, but their fans are insane. This kinda has both.

It's just that a casual viewer can't just come in halfway through a season and know what the fuck is going on.

[MDiver01]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the "cult" thing was sarcasm.

[Hobnail_Boot]

Calling Lost a "cult" show is an insult to real "cult" shows...such as Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Joss Whedon >>> all. Deal with it.

[nuclearjew]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the "cult" thing was sarcasm.
Lost is definitely a cult show. It has a definite cult following, with all the people who obsess over every detail and read all the viral websites and shit. It may have huge ratings...I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I thought season 2's ratings were awful, but season 3 were high due to lack of competition from the writer's strike.

[MDiver01]

Nevermind, I was thinking indie for some reason.

[mule]

It is a cult show, and I like it

[footsies]

The last show was one of the best. How many seasons are left? Didn't they annouce just how many shows they are going to make?

[coolguy]

the next two are the last two seasons. one will have 18 episodes, one will have 17

[Uknowiphat]

Lost is the only show on TV that I actually get pissed when the hour is over. I want more dammit. It is hard to come to the realization that I have to wait a week in between.

I can't wait for it to return.

[CrazyCarl]

Season 5 Promo. They're disappearing fast from youtube.

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E Online link (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b65198_lost_footage_found_get_sneak_peek_new.html)

[El Torpedo]

New promo. Some interesting footage I haven't seen before but also a lot of stuff that's already been released. Can't wait.

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...Because of your faggy little song theres not gonna BE a San Fran-Sisco

[Garbage Man]

New promo. Some interesting footage I haven't seen before but also a lot of stuff that's already been released. Can't wait.

mX7md0HoR8E


...Because of your faggy little song theres not gonna BE a San Fran-Sisco

Hmmm nice video. This season is gonna be great.

[Gary_Busey]

I've been trying to watch all the past episodes before the new ones start. I've made it through the first two seasons and I'm pretty much hooked. Great show.

[RedBEARD]

Anyone know when season 4 is out on DVD, or if it's out already?

[CrazyCarl]

I think it's next Tuesday

[NOTKyle]

DON'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN'T DOO

[madddawggg]

love this show, i just hope they don't keep dragging it on and leaving unanswered questions for 5 more seasons.

[patcooper]

Anyone know when season 4 is out on DVD, or if it's out already?

comes out tomorrow.

[Snatch]

love this show, i just hope they don't keep dragging it on and leaving unanswered questions for 5 more seasons.

Thank you for your clever and original post. You are the first I've seen that had such a sentiment.

A. There is a set amount of seasons left

B. Fuck

U. Fag

C. What I did there?

[brentblack]

so they all have to go back

1. all? including desmond and baby aaron?

2. go back to the island that we saw disappear?

[NOTKyle]

1.) Yes, at least to Aaron, I think the Desmond thing is unclear.

2.) Yes. Ben's around, and I'm sure he can help find it.

A friend of mine came up with a funky theory on the smoke monster: It's a judgmental being. In seasons 3 (4?) when Kate and Juliet are handcuffed, and the smoke monster comes up on them and freaks out with it's flashbulb like seizure thing, it's confused because one of them is good and one is evil. Kate has killed her stepfather and is generally just a crazy bitch. Juliet (up to that point) hadn't killed anybody, and had done almost nothing but good things. So the monster was conflicted, and just bugged out and left.

You can see it in other ways: beat the shit out of Eko (killed hundreds of people), left John alone (always been a good guy with bad luck), murders Keamy and his crew (evil bitch with a tiny mouth).

I think this plays even further into the Island-is-heaven theories. Cerebus (the smoke monster) is essentially Jacob (god's) judgmental side in a way.

Meh.

[ShitBreak]

I'm to the point where if I remotely tried to disect the show more, my head would esplode.

[NOTKyle]

When I was a kid I would dissect sports teams; what they should do, who they have, how they can win yadda yadda.

Now I watch LOST.

[brentblack]

how did claire die? it's been so long i can't remember.

[ShitBreak]

Wiki is your friend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOST

[doubleocrow]

i can't FUCKIN WAIT!!!!!!!!! this is going to be awesome... hopefully.

[patcooper]

i can't FUCKIN WAIT!!!!!!!!! this is going to be awesome... hopefully.

you'll have to wait 2 more days. And I'm sure you'll be disappointed

[brentblack]

All the wiki says is that Claire disappears in the night with her deceased father. Is she dead? I remember her in the cabin

[nuclearjew]

All the wiki says is that Claire disappears in the night with her deceased father. Is she dead? I remember her in the cabin
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080601061616AATZ0ac

I think we're supposed to assume she's dead but they left it open.

[ShitBreak]

She's not dead for sure. She just disappeared in Jacob's cabin. It's assumed she's dead.

[brentblack]

what is the connection between Jack's family and the island? any theories out there?

[NOTKyle]

Christian Sheppard is clearly deeply tied with the island. He's fathered two kids that wound up on the island, as well as a nephew, and he's appeared on the island as two separate beings (the smoke monster and in place of jacob) I just have no idea how he's actually part of it.

And Claire isn't dead, she just wandered off and is chillaxin with Jacob/Christian.

[NOTKyle]

Okay we gotta get this thread busy again.

Whidmore to Ben: "Everything you have you took from me."

Does this mean Whidmore was the owner of Dharma, before the Purge?

Discuss.

[nuclearjew]

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/dharmaspecialaccess/index

Password: bharosa

This looks like crap.

[NOTKyle]

Of course it says namaste at the bottom. Remind me to delete that from my history.

[doubleocrow]

I think I heard that this is the season we are supposed to find out the origin of the "Smoke Monster." Somehow I think they are going to with hold that secret to the end which would be a fucking buzzkill.

[NOTKyle]

I think we'll find it out in the first few episodes of this season actually, once we find out the fuck is going on with Christian Sheppard.

[vasili denisov]

I don't watch the show, so I don't know if there's any truth to it.

Everything you need to know happens in the first five minutes of the season premieres. (http://www.slate.com/id/2209281)

In advance of Lost's fifth season premiere on Wednesday night, I have some advice for anyone who's fuzzy on the details of this sprawling, often confusing show. Instead of searching for recaps online or trying to pull an 82-episode marathon, just watch the first few minutes of each premiere—the introductory scene through the first commercial—and you'll learn everything you need to know. Lost's producers have long said that the show is a serialized epic. As Damon Lindelof, one of Lost's two executive producers, told the Onion's A.V. Club, "The superstructure of every season is a book … and every episode is a chapter in that book." To extend Lindelof's metaphor, the first page of every book lays the groundwork for what follows.

[Pox]

Weird, I just read that article an hour ago. I don't get their point. Their reason for season 1 was "you're introduced to Jack and Boone." Yea, the same Boone who was never developed as a character and ate shit halfway through the season. Right, that five minutes taught me a lot.

[doubleocrow]

I'm sure you have read this, but if you haven't here's a really awesome theory on seriously what the fuck is going on in LOST. If you want to live in mystery, I would suggest staying away from this article:

http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html

[wacker]

So the old women at the end was the same who sold the ring to Desmond?

[Titus_Pullo]

I was hoping someone would know who she was. The ole' noggin' can't keep up like it used to.

But I do think I have the show figured out: women should give head and swallow or the world will end. The pieces are there to support that theory if you put them together.

[YellowFever]

hmmm I'm not sure if I'm digging this whole time travel business so far, but I trust that they will make it all right soon.

my fave part of this episode was sering that "got milk" aaron burr guy take a flaming arrow to the chest.

my least favorite part(s) are that they're still introducing new questions (like who the hell is that old lady) but they still haven't addressed THE FUCKING 3 TOED STATUE. Um it's the 2nd to last season guys.

[ninja33]

Shes the same old lady from one of Desmond's episodes. I guess they didnt really explain what her deal is, but for what its worth...

On the Season 3 DVD (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Lost:_The_Complete_Third_Season_%28DVD%29#Bonus_fe atures), Damon Lindelof (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Damon_Lindelof) describes Hawking as "some sort of temporal policeman in place to make sure that everybody who is supposed to get to the island, does." He says this is related to the grand scale of Fate versus free will (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Fate_versus_free_will)

Its a quote from Lindelof about the old lady (Ms Hawking)...so its not really a spoiler, but i figured I'd put it in there anyway.

[NOTKyle]

Shes the same old lady from one of Desmond's episodes. I guess they didnt really explain what her deal is, but for what its worth...

On the Season 3 DVD (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Lost:_The_Complete_Third_Season_%28DVD%29#Bonus_fe atures), Damon Lindelof (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Damon_Lindelof) describes Hawking as "some sort of temporal policeman in place to make sure that everybody who is supposed to get to the island, does." He says this is related to the grand scale of Fate versus free will (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Fate_versus_free_will)

Its a quote from Lindelof about the old lady (Ms Hawking)...so its not really a spoiler, but i figured I'd put it in there anyway.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess that she's Daniel's mother (the one that he sent Desmond to go find). Ben has bitches all over the world.

[420monk]

Interesting LOST Island Map

http://i12.tinypic.com/3yp19o8.jpg
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NX8WBVZD
PW: xtyling

[doubleocrow]

I still don't understand how time travel is able to connect everyone's fate and let Hurley see dead people. I can't wait to hear how that is all explained. They only have one more season before they retire the show.

[brentblack]

I'm gonna go ahead and guess that she's Daniel's mother (the one that he sent Desmond to go find). Ben has bitches all over the world.

if so then Desmond should be headed to LA instead of Oxford? maybe Daniel is the only child born on the island

[YellowFever]

I still don't understand how time travel is able to connect everyone's fate and let Hurley see dead people. I can't wait to hear how that is all explained. They only have one more season before they retire the show.

Well remember that not only hurley can see dead people... jack has had some run ins with his dad, Kate with her mom (I think?) and I'm sure of others which I can't seem to point out right now. Maybe when you're dead you are able to travel through time like how the island was doing.

[doubleocrow]

Well remember that not only hurley can see dead people... jack has had some run ins with his dad, Kate with her mom (I think?) and I'm sure of others which I can't seem to point out right now. Maybe when you're dead you are able to travel through time like how the island was doing.

That is true. Maybe there has got to be something with parallel dimensions. I mean how was Claire able to hang out with her and Jack's dead father on the island. I am fucking confused. Maybe there's something to matter never being able to be created nor destroyed.

[canto iv]

Cantette IV and I started watching the series a few nights ago. While we're both enjoying it, I'm yet to really see any of the hidden messages and complex plots people seem to talk about. We're only 12 episodes in, so perhaps that comes later in the series once all the characters backstories have been established?

[doubleocrow]

Cantette IV and I started watching the series a few nights ago. While we're both enjoying it, I'm yet to really see any of the hidden messages and complex plots people seem to talk about. We're only 12 episodes in, so perhaps that comes later in the series once all the characters backstories have been established?

you're in for a doozy. the mindfucks start coming in quick. you can literally spend the whole week watching LOST non-stop because of the cliff hangers... and you might seeing you have, what, like 72 more episodes to go?

[Draven X 23]

Watching the LOST repeat and they have a commercial for somything called AnyTizers or something. And I am pretty sure the Black kid is Walt.

I wonder if its a coinsidence or if Dharma is at it again.

[Jericho]

Watching the LOST repeat and they have a commercial for somything called AnyTizers or something. And I am pretty sure the Black kid is Walt.

I wonder if its a coinsidence or if Dharma is at it again.
Bacon/Cheese Anytizers are bomb

[Gary_Busey]

Is Lost on tonight? Here, we have college basketball on at 9 on ABC.

[CrazyCarl]

yeah, it's on

[White Rhino]

Is Lost on tonight? Here, we have college basketball on at 9 on ABC.

wtf thats what espn is for.

[CrazyCarl]

Charles Widmore was an other? wtf

[Lone Wolf]

I always enjoy island heavy eps.

The blowing up and killing of random fag survivors is becoming a bit much though.

Widmore was a douchebag when he was younger

It's pretty cool to see what was going on on the island during different time periods, and the Richard character might be one of the most intriguing on the show.

So, could Locke have changed everything by shooting Widmore in woods?

[El Torpedo]

Would everything be changed if your parents never met?

[Gary_Busey]

wtf thats what espn is for.
This is NC. Unfortunately, college basketball reigns supreme.

[Triumph]

So is Penny and Desmond are Charlie's parents??

[Rover]

So, could Locke have changed everything by shooting Widmore in woods?Last episode Faraday told Sawyer that the past can't be changed. And then he told Desmond to find his mother, so I think this could go either way. But he also said the rules don't apply to Desmond.

At least now we know how Richard was following Locke when Locke was a child and giving him tests. Of course we don't know why young Locke chose the knife and not any of the other items.

[Draven X 23]

So, could Locke have changed everything by shooting Widmore in woods?

Didn't Locke say that Widmore was one of his people? I thought that meant he recognized him.

[Rover]

No, I think he just meant that the Others were his people and that since the guy running into the woods was an Other he wasn't going to shoot him.

[Triumph]

Last episode Faraday told Sawyer that the past can't be changed. And then he told Desmond to find his mother, so I think this could go either way. But he also said the rules don't apply to Desmond.

At least now we know how Richard was following Locke when Locke was a child and giving him tests. Of course we don't know why young Locke chose the knife and not any of the other items.

Young Locke didn't know that what he told Richard in the past resulted in Richard visiting him later in the 50's to give him the "Leader tests". So he didn't know to choose the compass and not the knife.

[Triumph]

No, I think he just meant that the Others were his people and that since the guy running into the woods was an Other he wasn't going to shoot him.

Also he didn't know that was Widmore, but who knows if Locke actually knew that was Widmore he might have shot him, knowing what Widmore was going to do in the future.

[doubleocrow]

I don't know if it was LOST that discussed the "String Theory" of time travel, but basically you can't change things that are supposed to happen, so maybe that's why Locke wasn't able to kill Whitmore. If Locke killed young Whitmore there would have been a massive unraveling of everything, namely preventing Desmond from ever reaching the Island in the first place, and potentially ruining everything.

Also, remember when Michael left the Island and was unable to kill himself? He was destined to go back to the Island. Fate had of way of correcting itself to prevent things from going off the master plan.

[wacker]

So chick with the gun = Farraday's mom?

[doubleocrow]

So chick with the gun = Farraday's mom?

They do have the same hairstyle don't they? Next thing you'll know is that Farraday is the love child of Whitemore and his mother!

[NOTKyle]

So is Penny and Desmond are Charlie's parents??

I hope that's a joke.

Last episode Faraday told Sawyer that the past can't be changed. And then he told Desmond to find his mother, so I think this could go either way. But he also said the rules don't apply to Desmond.

At least now we know how Richard was following Locke when Locke was a child and giving him tests. Of course we don't know why young Locke chose the knife and not any of the other items.

Now we know why Richard looked so pissed when Locke chose the knife. He thinks that Locke lied to him when he said Jacob sent him, because he believed in him with blind faith.

So chick with the gun = Farraday's mom?

I think she's either the redhead's mom (because of the accent) of the mom of the chick he turned into a semi-vegetable.

[NOTKyle]

Oh and other theory. That bomb is in the middle of that giant 4 toed statue. Daniel asked for concrete, and that's the only place it's really been seen on the island.

[wacker]

I was thinking the bomb was buried under the first hatch.

[NOTKyle]

I thought that at first too, and that was the reason for the 4 8 15 16 23 42, but then I realized how little sense it made.

[Philip Lombard]

So is Penny and Desmond are Charlie's parents??
Wow.

So chick with the gun = Farraday's mom?
Ellie could be Eloise Hawking. AKA woman who sold Desmond the ring, who's helping Ben, who is in LA- just like Faraday's mom. Could be...


I think the bomb could be the basis for the Swan Station. Pushing the button could be the only way to keep the bomb from exploding- destroying the island and ending the world.

[Triumph]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Triumph http://forum.gorillamask.net/images/solido/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forum.gorillamask.net/showthread.php?p=370652#post370652)
So is Penny and Desmond are Charlie's parents??

Wow.

Wow, I gotta stop watching Lost drunk. Didn't even realize I posted that, along with the other 4 posts I made after that one.

[taters]

I don't know if it was LOST that discussed the "String Theory" of time travel, but basically you can't change things that are supposed to happen, so maybe that's why Locke wasn't able to kill Whitmore. If Locke killed young Whitmore there would have been a massive unraveling of everything, namely preventing Desmond from ever reaching the Island in the first place, and potentially ruining everything.

Also, remember when Michael left the Island and was unable to kill himself? He was destined to go back to the Island. Fate had of way of correcting itself to prevent things from going off the master plan.

Not to go a bit off topic, but I thought according to the 'multiverse' portion of string theory, you can change the past. Whatever change results in a new future instantly from the time you arrive.

There obviously must be some way to trick time, because desmond has managed to 'bend' the rules of fate multiple times (his jumps between the past and future, his saving charlie, his 'forgetting' the message from faraday). I suspect so has faraday (whom I suspect is John Lockes younger half brother by their mother).

Desmond and Penny CANT be charlies parents, weve already seen young charlies dad in the diving episode. It looked nothing like desmond. We also saw Charlie had an older brother NOT named charlie. Also, charlies family ring had DS as their fathers initials. Desmonds last name is Hume.

My guess is desmond is the only person whom the island cant direct their fate, and I suspect it has something to do with his turning the key under the hatch.

I wouldnt be surprised if they go the 'atlantis/Mu/shangrila/eden route for the island, it being the home of the founders of human civilization (the statute, the wheel, the zodiacs), existing where no one can find it. It continually brings in new groups to kill off the old ones once their 'work' is done. The volcano, I suspect, is the islands 'last resort' for clearing itself of people if they all start working together.

[Draven X 23]

I don't know if its been mentioned or not yet but I am betting that Sun narced on Kate about the baby.

[Lone Wolf]

This was not one of my favorite episodes. The 'swerves' all seemed pretty obvious way before hand and the acting was pretty terrible.

[Draven X 23]

It was a solid episode. I am kinda disappointed it was Ben. It was too obvious.

[Lone Wolf]

Some of the logic seemed fucked up as well. Why would Jack go have to go and talk to Claire's mom to 'fix' things if he is just going to con Kate into meeting up with Ben and eventually an island trip?

[riseabove!]

It was a solid episode. I am kinda disappointed it was Ben. It was too obvious.

Of course it was ben, when has ben not done some shit like that

[Thewellz]

I think they're going to kill off the redheaded chick so that Daniel will join the group to get back at Dharma.

[Draven X 23]

I know. Thats why I was thinking Sun because it was a lot less likely. But it would make sense since she just popped in right after Kate had the problem. I figured she was trying to manipulate Kate to work for her in her revenge against Ben.

[Techtro]

When sawyer saw Kate delivering the baby, it was from Season 1 Episode 20 (Do No Harm - http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Do_No_Harm)

Has anyone got this episode handy.. if yes watch the baby birth scene and see if Sawyer was actually in the background at some point??

It would be cool if he was there watching and the script writing team looked back on that and used it as a reference point now so that everyone would be confident they had this whole story line planned out.

[Bizz]

I have never seen the show before, nor have I read anything in this thread, I just wanted to say Lost is gay. That is all.

[lilchip]

Just watched Do No Harm on Surfthechannel and unfortunately, Sawyer was not there for Aaron's birth. Jin and Charlie watched from a distance.

[Techtro]

Well that's shit then, it would have been really cool if by chance you saw sawyers face in the background and it having been unnoticed till now.....

[El Torpedo]

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but I think that a bunch of the "whispers" going on in the background must have been themselves watching but unable to interfere because of the timestream instead of just the others watching and doing nothing

[Ninja Pope]

When sawyer saw Kate delivering the baby, it was from Season 1 Episode 20 (Do No Harm - http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Do_No_Harm)

Has anyone got this episode handy.. if yes watch the baby birth scene and see if Sawyer was actually in the background at some point??

It would be cool if he was there watching and the script writing team looked back on that and used it as a reference point now so that everyone would be confident they had this whole story line planned out.

Futurama actually planned that far ahead. There's a shadow of Nibbler at the cryogenics facility when Fry falls into the chamber.

[Titus_Pullo]

Just watched Do No Harm on Surfthechannel and unfortunately, Sawyer was not there for Aaron's birth. Jin and Charlie watched from a distance.

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[CrazyCarl]

too many flashes

[NOTKyle]

This show is falling off really fast. The first 45 minutes of last nights episode was garbage.

[highone]

I'm always happy when Smokey makes an appearance, plus how sweet was the dude's arm getting ripped off?

[Alcestis]

too many flashes

Do you think this will stop now that John 'fixed' the wheel and turned it himself?

Plus, does anyone re-watch the hour beforehand? I do...because I have so many distractions in the house I noticed I'm missing small details.

[Rover]

Too bad Jin had to go through the intial moments on the Island with Rousseau's group. It's like he wanted to tell them that walking through the jungle to the radio tower is going to likely result in running into the Monster or the Others, but he knew they wouldn't believe him.

I think the Island will stop flashing now that Locke's fixed it. I wondered about that last year when Christian told Locke he had to move the Island and then it was Ben that actually moved it.

I liked the episode. I thought it was the strongest one in awhile. It moved everything forward and built off the last one. Plus, I've been waiting for Locke off the Island for awhile.

I still never know whether or not Ben can be trusted, and I liked how he was only able to gather 2 of the 6, plus Desmond, who doesn't need to be there.

[Soup Nazi]

I am slightly confused here. If Locke was able to stop the flashes by moving the wheel, then why does the Oceanic 6 have to come back? Is there some other threat to the island that I am missing?

[The Dude]

have you not been paying attention?


BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO LEAVE!

[brentblack]

what happened to michael and walt?

[wacker]

Wouldn't have Rousseau remembered Jin?

Or is it like the Farraday and Desmond encounter where Desmond just woke up one day with that memory and seeing as how Rousseau is dead that's not possible for her?

[Rumpleforeskin]

I am slightly confused here. If Locke was able to stop the flashes by moving the wheel, then why does the Oceanic 6 have to come back? Is there some other threat to the island that I am missing?

That's my main concern. Hopefully the threat is from Whitmore and/or some other presence we don't know about. If the only reason they're returning is to keep the flashes from killing everybody I will be disappointed.

[Rover]

what happened to michael and walt?I assume Michael blew up on the ship, and Walt is off the Island. He visted Hurley in the Mental Hospital, after Locke came to see him, and asked Hurley why everyone was lying about the Island.

[HAWK]

After the 4th season I don't know if I can take any more.

[Ninja Pope]

Wouldn't have Rousseau remembered Jin?

Or is it like the Farraday and Desmond encounter where Desmond just woke up one day with that memory and seeing as how Rousseau is dead that's not possible for her?

I don't know. Quantum theory gives me a fucking headache.

[Jericho]

At this point, Im just watching out of habit. I don't have a clue what's going on and haven't since about the time the Oceanic 6 shit started

[Techtro]

I think the Island will stop flashing now that Locke's fixed it.

That would mean that both the crew and the island would be stuck in what ever year it was they were in last? Or would it 'reset' it to it's present year with a flash as soon as Locke did turn it?

But I don't know that the flashes will stop because remember Episode 1 this season we saw Daniel in the orchid looking at the wall infront of the wheel. This scene hasn't taken place yet? Also when Charlotte told him that she had a memory that he told her never to come back to the island or should would die seems to tie in with that mystery scene.

Perhaps while he was wondering around the active Darma camp he see's kid Charlotte and tells her.

[NOTKyle]

what happened to michael and walt?

Hopefully dead and fucking buried, I could never stand either of those two. The producers fucked up bad by including a kid in the main cast.

I am slightly confused here. If Locke was able to stop the flashes by moving the wheel, then why does the Oceanic 6 have to come back? Is there some other threat to the island that I am missing?

I don't think Locke really stopped anything, just paused it. It's like duct taping a leak.

Wouldn't have Rousseau remembered Jin?

Or is it like the Farraday and Desmond encounter where Desmond just woke up one day with that memory and seeing as how Rousseau is dead that's not possible for her?

I'm guessing that'd be it, but since she's dead irl they won't have to touch on it.

But I don't know that the flashes will stop because remember Episode 1 this season we saw Daniel in the orchid looking at the wall infront of the wheel. This scene hasn't taken place yet? Also when Charlotte told him that she had a memory that he told her never to come back to the island or should would die seems to tie in with that mystery scene.

Perhaps while he was wondering around the active Darma camp he see's kid Charlotte and tells her.

I'm starting to think that Daniel will eventually learn how to time travel, or at the very least learn how to harness the power of that crazy wooden wheel. He's definitely not an ageless Richard Alpert, he's just going back and forth trying to save the people he loves.

have you not been paying attention?


BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO LEAVE!

THEY HAVE TO GO BACK!!!

[brentblack]

for some reason i thought michael couldn't die

[NOTKyle]

He couldn't because his work wasn't done on the island, but he did what Ben sent him to do, and he managed to help his friends.

[Hulud]

for some reason i thought michael couldn't die

and then christian shephard said "you can go now michael" and the boat went boom.

Wouldn't have Rousseau remembered Jin?

Or is it like the Farraday and Desmond encounter where Desmond just woke up one day with that memory and seeing as how Rousseau is dead that's not possible for her?

when Farraday went to Desmond he said that Desmond had properties that others didnt have that allowed him to interact differently with time, or something to that effect. that was why he was able to go to him at that time and Desmond remembered it in the present.

[taters]

- Micheal is dead, but Walt is very much alive and not on the island, and set to return to the show, probably as a main character again, if I remember reading right

- Walt's purpose wasnt fulfilled, and he wasnt supposed to leave the island either. I wouldnt be surprised if the island forces those off the island to bring him back to continue Lockes work. He was the only other survivor who could do the things locke could...and apparently the others had been giving him the 'leader tests' that aplert alluded to, and had given to Locke when he was a boy.

- At some point Daniel will return to the past, probably to wreck up Dharma.

- The redhead isnt dead, just mind-lost like Murkowski was.

- Desmond is probably an unknowing pawn of Widmore. The others had no knowledge of him, and widmore is most likely responsible for him getting shanghai'd to the island in the first place.

- Now that Ben and Desmond have met up, Ben will likely use desmond to get to Penny and either he will kill her or Desmond will kill him.

- WTF happened to claire? It never showed her dying, yet at the same time she 'apparated' to Kate.

- Didnt Kate say that she spoke to Sawyer on the phone back when here and Jack were together? It can only mean Sawyer will leave the island in the future, but return to the past.

- I would bet almost anything that one of those 'time jumps' we saw were the islands future, with the 'new' invaders having arrived on those boats. My guess is they are the next dharma group.

[Ninja Pope]

Didnt Kate say that she spoke to Sawyer on the phone back when here and Jack were together? It can only mean Sawyer will leave the island in the future, but return to the past.

If I remember correctly, she was speaking to someone else, but it was about the thing that Sawyer asked her to do. My guess is that it has something to do with his daughter.

[Hulud]

If I remember correctly, she was speaking to someone else, but it was about the thing that Sawyer asked her to do. My guess is that it has something to do with his daughter.

thats what i was thinking, it definitely wasn't sawyer she was talking to.

[Rover]

I know I shouldn't be surprised, but I thought there would be an easy explanation for how everyone got on the plane.

Big props to whoever fucked Ben's shit up.

And I thought the number of the plane being 316 was cool, especially when combined with Locke's note at the end. Oh, and the island tracking station being called the Lamp Post was cool nod to Narnia.

[Techtro]

That would mean that both the crew and the island would be stuck in what ever year it was they were in last? Or would it 'reset' it to it's present year with a flash as soon as Locke did turn it?

But I don't know that the flashes will stop because remember Episode 1 this season we saw Daniel in the orchid looking at the wall infront of the wheel. This scene hasn't taken place yet? Also when Charlotte told him that she had a memory that he told her never to come back to the island or should would die seems to tie in with that mystery scene.

Perhaps while he was wondering around the active Darma camp he see's kid Charlotte and tells her.

After the Jin ending, I'm guessing what I said is partial true now and that they are stuck in the year when the Island was first inhibited by Darma, thus allowing them to easily blend in by pretending to be workers, so I would say next week we will see the Daniel looking in the orchid.

Also because Charlotte is 'dead' she won't be actively around so will avoid the confusion and stuffing things up by 'seeing herself' which we all know is not good when time traveling because Doc told Marty about it in Back To The Future!

[NOTKyle]

Theory: Kate's pregnant. They needed to recreate the original plane ride, and on the original plane there was someone pregnant with a child related to Jack in some way. She was all pissy the whole episode because Ben/Lady Farraday convinced her that she needed to get pregnant. That's the same reason Aaron's gone; yes everyone had to go back that left, but they also needed to recreate the crash, and there were no white babies on that plane.

And all the other re-creations were pretty cool: Sayid in handcuffs (was kate before), Hurley carrying a guitar and reading a comic book (shout out to Charlie and Walt), and someone that smelled like teriyaki and sesame seeds (still sun)

[highone]

Love the pregnancy theory! It might also explain why Kate was back at Jack's and ready to immediately start hooking up before they left for the island.

[Spoonman]

i think ben was busted up because he went to kill penny. that was the promise he made to widmore. he made that call to jack with a bunch of sailboats in the backround which is what penny and desmond were traveling in. which would lead me to believe that desmond will try to get back to the island to kill ben

love how lapidus was the pilot of that plane, and the survivors trying to get back to the island on an indian airline would explain that indian water bottle that was in one of the canoes

i knew my man locke was going to be resurrected but i wish that they had waited for next episode to show him back alive, rather than in a preview where hes talking to the agent that was escorting sayid

[Techtro]

i think ben was busted up because he went to kill penny. that was the promise he made to widmore. he made that call to jack with a bunch of sailboats in the backround which is what penny and desmond were traveling in. which would lead me to believe that desmond will try to get back to the island to kill ben

Interesting and could work, but i thought that Sayid was the one who probably busted Ben up because he had no intention to go back so Ben perhaps 'set him up' and got him to beat him in front of police or something similar which upon a background check release he was wanted in another country?

Also with Hurley and the guitar case, bet there is something more interesting than a guitar inside... perhaps a few two many packets of twinkies?

[Rumpleforeskin]

i think ben was busted up because he went to kill penny. that was the promise he made to widmore. he made that call to jack with a bunch of sailboats in the backround which is what penny and desmond were traveling in. which would lead me to believe that desmond will try to get back to the island to kill ben

love how lapidus was the pilot of that plane, and the survivors trying to get back to the island on an indian airline would explain that indian water bottle that was in one of the canoes

i knew my man locke was going to be resurrected but i wish that they had waited for next episode to show him back alive, rather than in a preview where hes talking to the agent that was escorting sayid

The only problem with Ben trying to kill Penny is that Penny is in the UK somewhere on the boat, not LA. Ben would have had to fly to England, kill Penny, then fly back to LA all in 16 hours or something.

[ninja33]

Penny went with Desmond to LA. Desmond kicked Ben's ass.

[highone]

Hurley's guitar case was clearly to symbolize Charlie's presence on the flight in order to help entice the island (like Christian Shepard's shoes were used on Locke).

[Techtro]

Just thought about the actual occurrence of Jack, Kate & Hurley flashing out the of the plane. Perhaps only they flashed back to the point in time where Sawyer and co were stuck in while the remainder of the place crashed in the present time explaining the canoes on the shore and them being shot at while talking the canoe.

This would make sense because we know the person escorting Sayid had a gun.

[Blue]

This whole thing is turning into a bigger load of bollocks than it already was. I'm sure they're just making shit up as they go along.

Shepard should just cry already! Every damn episode he looks like he's about to burst into tears, but never does. He's worse than Nikki Cox on Vegas.

Plus, they killed off one of the better looking gingerminges on TV! Arseholes.

[WigglingWii]

This whole thing is turning into a bigger load of bollocks than it already was. I'm sure they're just making shit up as they go along.

Shepard should just cry already! Every damn episode he looks like he's about to burst into tears, but never does. He's worse than Nikki Cox on Vegas.

Plus, they killed off one of the better looking gingerminges on TV! Arseholes.


I'm sure Charlotte isn't really dead. We'll see her again.

[doubleocrow]

Ok, but WTF with Christian Shepard being "Jacob"?

[Titus_Pullo]

Christian speaks on behalf of Jacob.

And Penny has nice titties.

[ShitBreak]

Lulz. Walt's like 30 now.

[CrazyCarl]

Ben talks Locke out of killing himself only to kill him 2 minutes later?

[Lone Wolf]

The extended commercial breaks really hurt the flow of episodes like these.

[Rumpleforeskin]

I'm going to be really pissed if the whole point of Lost (and its finale) is about Ben vs Whitmore. They keep talking about saving the people on the island, but other than the real 'others' there's only a handful of people from 815 left. Is it that big of a global issue that they get rescued?

[Titus_Pullo]

Ben talks Locke out of killing himself only to kill him 2 minutes later?

Well he probably got the information he wanted out of him when he told him about the old chick in teh church.

[Syndicate]

You would think that by now when any of these people are presented with a totally ludacris/impossible piece of information or a weird ass task they would just give in and say OK by now rather then saying OMG THAT'S CRAZY... NO WAI!!!!!111

[Titus_Pullo]

Now that I've been watching some of the early reruns on G4, I think one of the real strengths of the show is that they were able to include some really interesting characters while getting rid of some real lames ones like Shannon and Boone.

[Rover]

Lulz. Hurley doesn't freak out at Locke, until he realizes that Locke isn't dead but off the island.

[Lone Wolf]

Ben talks Locke out of killing himself only to kill him 2 minutes later?

I don't think that Ben actually knew how to get back on the island, or he just needed the name of that lady and then for John to die because that was what was supossed to happen. I can't even remember why Ben left the island now that I think about it.

[The Dude]

Ben talks Locke out of killing himself only to kill him 2 minutes later?

Well he probably got the information he wanted out of him when he told him about the old chick in teh church.

There's a theory in the latest darkufo recap that i like which is that when locke was about to kill himself, that he literally had lost all faith and that he wasn't killing himself to get back to the island but he was killing himself because he failed. Ben knew that locke being dead was necessary, but that the island would "reject" him if he killed himself (mortal sin ftl). So Ben gave him a quick pep talk, john believed again, and then ben murked him.

[HAWK]

I don't think that Ben actually knew how to get back on the island. I can't even remember why Ben left the island now that I think about it.

Ben somehow was put off the island when he turned the lever to move the island in the S4 finale.

Ben told Locke that whomever moved the island had to leave the island.

[ShitBreak]

Ben was dropped in the desert, just like Locke was.

[HAWK]

Exactly.

[The Dude]

its the exit, which is why the cameras were setup by whitmore

[Lone Wolf]

There's a theory in the latest darkufo recap that i like which is that when locke was about to kill himself, that he literally had lost all faith and that he wasn't killing himself to get back to the island but he was killing himself because he failed. Ben knew that locke being dead was necessary, but that the island would "reject" him if he killed himself (mortal sin ftl). So Ben gave him a quick pep talk, john believed again, and then ben murked him.

I like that theory except right before Ben killed Locke he stated that he was going to miss him. It felt like he was saying goodbye.

[Ninja Pope]

Jack grew that big bushy beard hella fast, assuming Locke killed himself within days of speaking with him. It was just starting to grow in, and then BAM! Within a couple of weeks (let's say Locke's wake was a week after his death), he's got a huge beard, he's been fired, and he's spent a lot of time flying on planes and hoping they'll crash.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd much rather be wrong about this than know that there's a gaping continuity error.

[Jericho]

Jack grew that big bushy beard hella fast, assuming Locke killed himself within days of speaking with him. It was just starting to grow in, and then BAM! Within a couple of weeks (let's say Locke's wake was a week after his death), he's got a huge beard, he's been fired, and he's spent a lot of time flying on planes and hoping they'll crash.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd much rather be wrong about this than know that there's a gaping continuity error.
It's probably the numbers, man

[Jericho]

Seriously, though. This show should be titled Gaping Continuity Error

[Ninja Pope]

Seriously, though. This show should be titled Gaping Continuity Error

Isn't it a little fucked up that a serious serial drama like Lost would be so full of holes, but a three-camera sitcom like How I Met Your Mother has almost airtight continuity?

[El Torpedo]

Locke has no family or friends and Ben is the one who murders him, alone. There is a small funeral service held, and a small newspaper obit released. The timeline could be anywhere.


Plus, the island totally dictates the way it wants facial hair to grow anywee

[CrazyCarl]

I wonder how long it took someone to discover Locke's body

[Rumpleforeskin]

Human bodies degrade VERY quickly. If it were in there more than a day he probably wouldn't be in an open casket.

[White Rhino]

When Locke mentioned the womens name that he was supposed to meet, Ben killed him. So my question is did Ben murder Locke because Locke knew who the woman was or did Ben kill Locke because Locke mentioned her name and that was a clue/key for Locke to die?

[Vagrant]

There's a theory in the latest darkufo recap that i like which is that when locke was about to kill himself, that he literally had lost all faith and that he wasn't killing himself to get back to the island but he was killing himself because he failed. Ben knew that locke being dead was necessary, but that the island would "reject" him if he killed himself (mortal sin ftl). So Ben gave him a quick pep talk, john believed again, and then ben murked him.

That's a big crock of old bullshit. Locke had information that Ben needed. He told Ben that the next move was to talk to Eloise, which Ben did not know prior to having talked to him, and that Jin was still alive and that tool he could use to get Sun back to the Island.

Ben knew that Jacob/Christian/Whitmore had told Locke the next logical step in the equation. Locke knew where he was supposed to go and Ben didn't know. Once Locke told Ben what he needed to know, he was no longer needed alive. In fact in order to fulfill the role that Christian played on the flight he would have to be dead.

[Vagrant]

When Locke mentioned the womens name that he was supposed to meet, Ben killed him. So my question is did Ben murder Locke because Locke knew who the woman was or did Ben kill Locke because Locke mentioned her name and that was a clue/key for Locke to die?

I vote neither. If you hear the surprise in Ben's voice about the need for Eloise to be involved it seemed like new information to him. I think that once Locke told Ben what he needed to know he snuffed him. For some reason, the Island wouldn't be able to accept Locke back alive it seems. "That's why it's called a sacrifice", says Christian Sheppard.

[El Torpedo]

Human bodies degrade VERY quickly. If it were in there more than a day he probably wouldn't be in an open casket.
Well either way the timeline of the people off the island is pretty skewed, we know locke came to jack when he was starting up his beard but the scene where he killed himself could be anywhere.

Ultimately, we've dedicated a good 5 or so posts based on someones beard. Good for LOST

[Ninja Pope]

Well either way the timeline of the people off the island is pretty skewed, we know locke came to jack when he was starting up his beard but the scene where he killed himself could be anywhere.

Ultimately, we've dedicated a good 5 or so posts based on someones beard. Good for LOST

He still had fresh wounds from the crash, so my guess is that he killed himself within days of seeing Jack.

And if the internet isn't for fanboy discussion of facial hair-related continuity errors in sci fi shows, then what the hell IS it for?

[taters]

My guess, Jack Kate and Hurley went back in time before the plane crashed and are in the 60s, and Sawyer/Jin/Julia have been there for a while.

I am fairly happy that its pretty official, at some point Walt (and probably Aaron) must return.

My bet = The war that Widmore spoke of will be between his side and Bens side, and Locke is the key, whomever has him on their side wins. Likewise, Ben was originally not supposed to come back to the island (remember him telling locke whomever moved the island couldnt come back). Either that was a lie, or he found a loophole...which Widmore will likely exploit at some point in the future.


Also, Im betting Ben killed Penny in some massive brawl, hence his bruises and scars. That will put Desmond on Widmores side, when Widmore finds out that Desmond was on the island (something Im starting to suspect he had no Idea of).

[El Torpedo]

Is Richard a perpetually time travelling man or immortal and unaging?

He still had fresh wounds from the crash, so my guess is that he killed himself within days of seeing Jack.

And if the internet isn't for fanboy discussion of facial hair-related continuity errors in sci fi shows, then what the hell IS it for?

Locke's wounds you mean? I remember Jack, fully bearded, telling Kate he had bought a bunch of plane tickets hoping he would crash on the island in one of the flights in one of the"post island" flashes. Locke's actual death scene happens with little reference to anything outside the room or pertinence to a timeline.

[Ninja Pope]

Is Richard a perpetually time travelling man or immortal and unaging?

He is kept young by his magical mascara.

[Blue]

Shepard should just cry already!

[The Dude]

That's a big crock of old bullshit. Locke had information that Ben needed. He told Ben that the next move was to talk to Eloise, which Ben did not know prior to having talked to him, and that Jin was still alive and that tool he could use to get Sun back to the Island.

Ben knew that Jacob/Christian/Whitmore had told Locke the next logical step in the equation. Locke knew where he was supposed to go and Ben didn't know. Once Locke told Ben what he needed to know, he was no longer needed alive. In fact in order to fulfill the role that Christian played on the flight he would have to be dead.

I vote neither. If you hear the surprise in Ben's voice about the need for Eloise to be involved it seemed like new information to him. I think that once Locke told Ben what he needed to know he snuffed him. For some reason, the Island wouldn't be able to accept Locke back alive it seems. "That's why it's called a sacrifice", says Christian Sheppard.

if the island is so petty that it wouldn't accept locke back alive, then why is it so far fetched that it wouldn't accept him if he killed himself?

crock of bullshit? go fuck yourself. its a lot more reasonable than your theory given the history of the show.

[The Dude]

My guess, Jack Kate and Hurley went back in time before the plane crashed and are in the 60s, and Sawyer/Jin/Julia have been there for a while.

I am fairly happy that its pretty official, at some point Walt (and probably Aaron) must return.

My bet = The war that Widmore spoke of will be between his side and Bens side, and Locke is the key, whomever has him on their side wins. Likewise, Ben was originally not supposed to come back to the island (remember him telling locke whomever moved the island couldnt come back). Either that was a lie, or he found a loophole...which Widmore will likely exploit at some point in the future.



did he say can't come back or had to leave?

[Ninja Pope]

Seeing Nestor Carbonell on Lost really makes me miss Batmanuel.

[Lone Wolf]

This was a pretty odd episode. I liked it, there was a lot of random connecting the dots to do, but it was also a little weird. It's a strange new arc to have them in the past now.

[janois]

Aw sweet! They're finally gonna explain the giant statue.
Wait, what the fuck! Ahhhh!

[Lone Wolf]

I'm good with that being that on the statue. It should be one of those things left to the viewer

[Philip Lombard]

no it shouldn't

[Techtro]

I'm good with that being that on the statue. It should be one of those things left to the viewer

I kind of agree because if they did go into it, it really would have crapped the show up seeing Sawyer with a gun shooting at some tribesmen etc...

As for the episode I liked it because it showed what Darma was like in its original stages. It also explained what widmore said last week about there was going to be a war soon. The war is when the others take over Darma, and with Locke back on the island after the take over he will succeed Richard be the new leader of the others and Widmore feels he (in 1970's) would have out smarten Locke and become leader himself at an earlier age thus sending his life ina completely different direction.

[Lone Wolf]

One thing that bothers me everytime I see it and I never really realized it until last night is that the time island moving wheel is such a rickty looking piece of garbage. Couldn't they have splurged on a nicer looking device?

[brentblack]

Is the baby Desmond?

[highone]

I really enjoyed last night's episode. The Sawyer/Juliet stuff was a nice twist. No idea who the baby will turn out to be.

[Ninja Pope]

I really enjoyed last night's episode. The Sawyer/Juliet stuff was a nice twist. No idea who the baby will turn out to be.

People have been predicting a Sawyer/Juliet hookup since before the start of the season.

Can we get a moratorium on love triangles on LOST?

[Techtro]

One thing that bothers me everytime I see it and I never really realized it until last night is that the time island moving wheel is such a rickty looking piece of garbage. Couldn't they have splurged on a nicer looking device?

Its been there for thousands of years.... I think?

[Chaka]

Is Sawyer Jacob?

[doubleocrow]

Is the baby Desmond?

That couldn't be baby Desmond as you see a little redhaired Charlotte running around and its 1974.

[doubleocrow]

Oh, I think they are going to kill off Kate this season. She was seen in Los Angeles auditioning for new pilots for next year.

Maybe she's pregnant with Jack's baby (which is how they recreate Claire's situation) and she dies during child birth on the island like a lot of the other pregnant women (the exception being the woman from last episode).

I still want to know how Hugo is able to talk/see dead people.

[FarEastFornicator]

Isn't the baby, Ben? I thought I saw the hippie guy was his dad many episodes back when Ben takes over and blast everyone away.

[Techtro]

Isn't the baby, Ben? I thought I saw the hippie guy was his dad many episodes back when Ben takes over and blast everyone away.

Can't be.. remember in the episode "The Man Behind the Curtain" (Season 3 Ep 20) we saw Ben born in the back of a car.


The birth went badly for Emily, and Roger carried her out to a roadway, flagging down Horace and Olivia, (relationship unknown) some passers by, for help. Ben lived, but Emily died. Emily's last words were a request that Roger name the child Benjamin.

[Vagrant]

if the island is so petty that it wouldn't accept locke back alive, then why is it so far fetched that it wouldn't accept him if he killed himself?

crock of bullshit? go fuck yourself. its a lot more reasonable than your theory given the history of the show.

Not that I really should have to defend myself against you, seeing as how you're a dumbass, but if the Island didn't want John to kill himself then he wouldn't have been able to do it. See also Michael after he left the Island before his work was finished. Even fully loaded guns were jamming on him. It had nothing to do with "Mortal Sin", this isn't Judgment Island or some sort of purgatory. That has been stated ad naseum by the producers of the show.

[Blue]

What sort of knobhead, who is planning to go back to a tropical island via a plane crash, puts on a fucking suit?

Jack Shepard is an idiot, and these people keep looking to him? He should die soon.

[janois]

What sort of knobhead, who is planning to go back to a tropical island via a plane crash, puts on a fucking suit?

Jack Shepard is an idiot, and these people keep looking to him? He should die soon.
But didn't he have to wear Johns shoes or something? Might've looked silly with some dress shoes and a jogging suit.
Screw it, that's inexcusable and it will bother me until I forget about it next week when something else doesnt make sense.

[Vagrant]

But didn't he have to wear Johns shoes or something? Might've looked silly with some dress shoes and a jogging suit.
Screw it, that's inexcusable and it will bother me until I forget about it next week when something else doesnt make sense.

I don't think he had to wear John's shoes. I think John had to wear Christian's shoes for some reason we have yet to discover.

Jack is just a suit kind of guy, apparently.

[janois]

I don't think he had to wear John's shoes. I think John had to wear Christian's shoes for some reason we have yet to discover.

Jack is just a suit kind of guy, apparently.
That's it.

[The Dude]

Not that I really should have to defend myself against you, seeing as how you're a dumbass, but if the Island didn't want John to kill himself then he wouldn't have been able to do it. See also Michael after he left the Island before his work was finished. Even fully loaded guns were jamming on him. It had nothing to do with "Mortal Sin", this isn't Judgment Island or some sort of purgatory. That has been stated ad naseum by the producers of the show.

thank you for proving my point. the island didn't want john to kill himself so ben intervened.

[Vagrant]

thank you for proving my point. the island didn't want john to kill himself so ben intervened.

Your post implied that John actually could have killed himself had he wanted to do so. As we learned with Michael's situation, that wouldn't have happened because the island wouldn't have allowed it if he had unfinished business there.

[CrazyCarl]

wtf repeat?

[nuclearjew]

And I thought you were in the know...

[riseabove!]

I was disappointed too

[El Torpedo]

Yea I was pissed as well, what is this, the SECOND season?!?!?!?!

[FarEastFornicator]

Is it a repeat?

[comicfan]

Yupp

[Pete t]

I don't think he had to wear John's shoes. I think John had to wear Christian's shoes for some reason we have yet to discover.

Jack is just a suit kind of guy, apparently.

John had to wear the shoes because they had to recreate the circumstances on the plane crash that brought them to the island. So they needed a dead person who was wearing something of Christians because Christian was the dead person on the plane. Locke is a proxy for Christian so he needs something of his. It was an earlier episode this season.

[defprophet]

So did the island bring christian back to life in some capacity, he was in a coffin on the plane and then seen walking around even if only by Jack. Locke dies, in a coffin on the plane and then he is now walking around but not being very secret about it. Christian clearly knew more about the island, maybe he was in a similar situation Locke or Jack were in, so him hiding and not letting anyone know he was alive could have to do with that. Or maybe im just wrong and I still have no fucking clue whats going on. /RantyMcRanterson

[Pete t]

I think you're right, I mean obviously theres stuff thats left out. But Christian was revamped on the Island as was Locke. I just want to know what his connection with Jacob is. I think Jacob is probably my favourite mystery, that one episode where he flipped out and threw shit around the room invisible was crazy then you see a glimpse of him for a split second.

[FarEastFornicator]

was there a screen cap? I can't remember

[Pete t]

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Jacob-lost-34938_476_585.jpg

thats like the only screen shot there is

[El Torpedo]

Jack : There's two kinds of people in this world: Those who get stomped on and those who do the stomped on and those who do the stomping
Kate : Where'd you come up with that theory?
Jack : That famous guy said it. What's his name? Uh... Oh, yeah: Jesus!

[Ninja Pope]

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Jacob-lost-34938_476_585.jpg

thats like the only screen shot there is

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that sure looks like it could be Christian with long hair and a beard.

[Pete t]

Ya, I could see that. I doubt they will explain anything about him for a while.

[brentblack]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that sure looks like it could be Christian with long hair and a beard.

or Sawyer? he already has both

[Dakar]

It looks like Locke's forehead to me, but more interestingly, what little of his clothes I see make me think he's from the time period of the pirate ship found on the island.

[HAWK]

It would be more of a slap in the face if it were Jack.

[johnnychacski]

That looks just like Christian.

[Titus_Pullo]

I was away the last couple of weeks with no TV. Why wasn't Lost on last week? Did Obama get on prime time again?

[johnnychacski]

I was away the last couple of weeks with no TV. Why wasn't Lost on last week? Did Obama get on prime time again?

Haha, no although with the amount of time Obama is on TV you would think that, they just took a week off.

[Muji]

they canceled the show

[Titus_Pullo]

I fucked the Playboy bunny in your Av. Take that.

[johnnychacski]

they canceled the show

Thanks for the laugh.

[Muji]

now you have aids

[Titus_Pullo]

I already had aids.

[johnnychacski]

Tonight's ending was awesome, two weeks ago I was trying to figure it out and brought what happened up with a friend.

[highone]

Anyone else notice Smokey exiting the cabin when the door creaked open?

[johnnychacski]

Anyone else notice Smokey exiting the cabin when the door creaked open?

Yes I was thinking the same thing, but it looked like it disappeared so I didn't know for sure.

[The Batman]

You know how Locke is alive now that he is back on the island? Why can't it be the same for Christian? Since Christian keeps popping up everywhere....

[TMJ]

Christian can be alive. But Locke is in present day, not "That '70s Lost" right?

[johnnychacski]

Christian can be alive. But Locke is in present day, not "That '70s Lost" right?

Correct, and I believe Christian is a live on the island, the only question is how does he pop up in places like when he popped in on Michael on the freighter.

[Snatch]

How do you guys know that Locke is alive?

[ShitBreak]

Because it showed Locke alive back on the island, in a hospital of some sorts, standing over Ben saying "He's the one that killed me"

Or something like that.

[Snatch]

Because it showed Locke alive back on the island, in a hospital of some sorts, standing over Ben saying "He's the one that killed me"

Or something like that.

Or...

Locke/Christian/Alpert/Claire are all dead motherfuckers.

That's why they don't age/change.

[The Batman]

Or...

Locke/Christian/Alpert/Claire are all dead motherfuckers.

That's why they don't age/change.

No, its because he was on the beach with everyone else a few episodes ago. Remember he was walked out of the water? His flashback episode?

[Mr. Bateman]

what happened to daniel?

[defprophet]

Well they could all be dead when they arent on the island. Like I said there is definitely something with Locke and Christian coming back to life.

I came up with a new theory last night, maybe its been said, but I think Jacob is Jack or Sawyer(have they said what his REAL name was?) or someone that is in the 70's lost that has aged and is now aiding his younger self in the future to make sure he ends up where he is.... if that makes any sense. I mostly think its Jack since Jacob is closely spelled and there is alot to do with christian and Claire who are Jacks father and sister so it would make sense that they are hanging out with some aged crazy Jackob

Most of that probably doesnt even make sense. Just something I thought while watching last night.

[Mr. Bateman]

Well they could all be dead when they arent on the island. Like I said there is definitely something with Locke and Christian coming back to life.

I came up with a new theory last night, maybe its been said, but I think Jacob is Jack or Sawyer(have they said what his REAL name was?) or someone that is in the 70's lost that has aged and is now aiding his younger self in the future to make sure he ends up where he is.... if that makes any sense. I mostly think its Jack since Jacob is closely spelled and there is alot to do with christian and Claire who are Jacks father and sister so it would make sense that they are hanging out with some aged crazy Jackob

Most of that probably doesnt even make sense. Just something I thought while watching last night.

interesting. this whole show doesnt make any sense anymore so its completely plausible.

[The Batman]

I am just wondering if everyone is going to die now, since Hurley mentioned the mass grave....

[Ninja Pope]

Holy fuck, the kid playing Ben had Michael Emerson's facial expressions and mannerisms down pat. I could tell who he was supposed to be just from that.

[Titus_Pullo]

He went the the Paddling Acting School for Children. Don't say your lines right...that's a paddillin'.

[riseabove!]

I am just wondering if everyone is going to die now, since Hurley mentioned the mass grave....
that happens when Ben is an adult in the future

[Lone Wolf]

I like how everyone was reunited sorta Return of the Jedi style

[Pete t]

I am just wondering if everyone is going to die now, since Hurley mentioned the mass grave....
well its definitly the right time period, the kid was around that age when it happened.

[Ninja Pope]

well its definitly the right time period, the kid was around that age when it happened.

No, Michael Emerson played Ben during the Purge, which I think happened in the late '80s.

[johnnychacski]

I want to go back to the episode to see if anyone is wearing a LaFleur jacket or something. I doubt they will but it's worth a look.

[Techtro]

Anyone else notice Smokey exiting the cabin when the door creaked open?

Yes I was thinking the same thing, but it looked like it disappeared so I didn't know for sure.

what....? I just went back and checked...

Didn't happen!

http://i43.tinypic.com/261nbm1.jpg

[johnnychacski]

what....? I just went back and checked...

Didn't happen!

http://i43.tinypic.com/261nbm1.jpg

Not that part...the part right before there looking at the photo.

[Techtro]

Not that part...the part right before there looking at the photo.

ahh ok now it makes more sense

http://i43.tinypic.com/fbdb8o.jpg

[The Batman]

that happens when Ben is an adult in the future

Yeah, but who knows how long they are going to stuck in the past, or if they go to that future where Ben does kill everyone.

[riseabove!]

I ejaculated, "THE FUCK IS THAT GHOST?"

Maybe, but I see them going back to the future at some point, because that shit happens a good 20+years in the future

[Fiend1138]

$100 says that 'Adam & Eve' in the fresh water spring from season 1 is really Jack and Kate...

[Ninja Pope]

$100 says that 'Adam & Eve' in the fresh water spring from season 1 is really Jack and Kate...

Sawyer and Kate ftw.

[FarEastFornicator]

$100 says the local tribesman tore down that bad ass statue but we will never get to see it.

[Blue]

Ethan (baby just born) was an other right?
Ben ends up being an other too, right?

[johnnychacski]

Ethan (baby just born) was an other right?
Ben ends up being an other too, right?

Correct
Correct