The Shield

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[Jericho]

Less than a month. I'm fucking geeked!!!!

[Neosmurf]

Last season ever. This better set the series over the top and go out huge.

[Eradicator30]

I'm pretty sure Shane's gonna die, quite possibly by Vick's hand.

[bpb]

Something's got to involve Ronnie big time. He's been so obscure through out this series. Maybe he feels the pressure of the whole situation and after Vic kills Shane, he kills Vic. Either that or Shane kills them both. I don't know. Those are my predictions.

[Eradicator30]

SEASON SEVEN CLIPPAGE! (obviously possible small spoilers here):

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[paignful]

ronnies a good soldier

always solid and loyal

took a fuckin burner to the face for the team

he should get more play in the series...he could quite possibly be the last one standing...i could see that and be happy

as long as they dont shit the bed on the ending

[jcmanuel]

Vic is going down like Omar in the wire

[MemphisVon]

I'm in the process of watching Season 1-6 again before the new season starts. Currently half way through 3.

And Season 7 will end with a bang. I'm calling it that Vic and Shane shoot each other. No way either one is going to prison.

[gigantor]

great clips....i'm wondering if theres gonna be something that comes up with claudette...shes kind of the moral compass on the show...makes you want to root for vic...i'm wondering if something dirties that up some..

[Hulud]

can't wait for the start of the season, hopefully the best one yet

[Hobnail_Boot]

Well, the DVR is showing that the season premiere is Sept. 2nd. Mesohorny.

[Eradicator30]

Oh weirdness, I'm watching an epsiode of Star Trek: The Next Generation right now and David Aceveda is operating the transporter!

[gigantor]

Benito!!...aceveda is definitely one of my favorite not cop characters on the show...he shows the sliminess of politics really well...never really thought of cops as being good politicians, but i guess in hindsight it makes sense..

[Jericho]

I'm so fucking ready for this shit

[Cal]

I'm watching season 5 right now, halfway through. This show is awesome, although I'm getting tired of the internal affairs angle. They need a new boost, they've been investigated for 5 seasons now. The russian thing was a nice push in another direction.

[janois]

Only 6 more hours. I think Ronnie is gonna be huge to end this out.

[Jericho]

He's gotta be. He'll probably be the last man standing

[janois]

Last year or the season before I started getting the feeling that he was deeeeeep undercover trying to bring Vic down. But then the next week Vic told him that he was responsible for Terry and shot it down.

[gigantor]

I have a sneaky feeling...i think vic is gonna make it...i dont know, i agree on ronnie making it too, but im thinking they work out a way for vic to make it out without it all falling down..

[Jericho]

If they pull some bullshit Sopranos ending I'm gonna kill someone

[janois]

One hour to go. Will they ever go back to Dutch choking out the cat? Is Julian still a cock smoker? Will Dani kill/catbump the hot cop?

[janois]

If they pull some bullshit Sopranos ending I'm gonna kill someone

You start in Cali, I'll be in the D and we'll meet in Denver.

[janois]

Get ready Motherfuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You watching this on the west coast. If not, I'll hold off until later.


And it starts with my favorite Social D song. This season can't miss.

[Jericho]

Yes. Dammit

[janois]

Get ready Motherfuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You watching this on the west coast. If not, I'll hold off until later.


And it starts with my favorite Social D song. This season can't miss.

The first two sentences were all kinds of fucked up. I meant is this on at 10 local and if so, I won't post.

[janois]

I'll keep this spoiler free.
I hate anything that has to do with Vics family. Lame and I hate Cassie and her stupid face.

[Jericho]

True that. Fuck Vic's retard kids. The Corrine and Dutch storyline = bleccch

[Monster Joe]

Vic's family might not be what we want to see, but come on, that storyline is neccessary at this point, and they are really keeping it at a minimum.

Thank God that The Shield is back.

[Eradicator30]

Pretty good start of the season. I did think they were going to kill/majorly injure Danny in that one scene, which honestly would've made it a lot better. Billings being pwned was a highlight.

[Jericho]

Billings is a nitwit

[Eradicator30]

Yeah, but he's good comedy relief.

[Jericho]

For sure. I laughed my ass off when he set Dutch up to watch that guy fuck Maria

[gigantor]

I was definitely a fan of the premiere...

RONNIE!!...my man what is going on there...i like what i think is going to happen with that storyline..the dutch party was hilarious as well..

[jcmanuel]

Billings glasses were pretty solid.

[Jericho]

Whatever the bare minimum is to meet the mandate...we'll call that the Billings

[Eradicator30]

Can't we just call it business as usual?

[Cornelius]

Great opener. I was surprised though at how much they showed of the victims in the dragging scene. It seems to be a brave new world the Shield is blazing again. Remember in Season One when the shot Terry in the face and this is all that happened?

http://www.morethings.com/fan/the_shield/pictures/terry-eyesclose3.jpg

Imagine what it would be in today's Shield.

[Cal]

I finnaly caught up with this, I must say. Ronnie fucking rocks, too bad he shaved though.

[Jericho]

Watching it right now, and this made me spit out my beer

"We're working on internet rumors, now? Hell,on the internet Dutch is still a 13 year old girl looking for his first training bra"

[Jericho]

Wow, great scene with Claudette and the black kid

[The Batman]

Wow, great scene with Claudette and the black kid

I wanted so bad to just have Claudette punch that little shit in the face.

[Jericho]

No shit. That kid was pissing me off

[Hulud]

Ronny is going to get jealous of Shaney

[Bill]

Ronny is going to get jealous of Shaney

Ronnie is getting jealous of everyone. He's supposed to be in charge of the Strike Team right now.

Did you see the look he gave Vic after he pulled rank on him.

RONNIE FTMFW!

[Jericho]

Is it wrong of me to hope the Armenians get to Cassidy?

[janois]

Is it wrong of me to hope the Armenians get to Cassidy?
And the Mexicans. And the 1-9ers. And Armidillo.

[fuldstændigamok]

Didnt see the Murray twist coming. Thats gonna make the all situation even hotter than it already was. Shit, the look on vick and amardillo faces was priceless.

[Menace2Sobriety]

So how does everyone feel about Julian's eventual take down of Mackey?

[janois]

So how does everyone feel about Julian's eventual take down of Mackey?

I've never thought of that happening, but it makes sense.

[janois]

That was the best episode in a while. The last 20 minutes was fuckin tense.

[Jericho]

So, did Dani skip town with the kid?

Also,next weeks episode looks fuckin suhweeeet

[El Torpedo]

I miss Lem :(

[Pharon]

So, did Dani skip town with the kid?
That's what it looks like she was doing. Don't understand why, exactly. It's not like Vic beats his kids or anything. All he wanted to do was be in his son's life. Every kid should be so lucky.

Fucking cunt. I hope he uses it against her and gets full custody or something.

[The Batman]

That's what it looks like she was doing. Don't understand why, exactly. It's not like Vic beats his kids or anything. All he wanted to do was be in his son's life. Every kid should be so lucky.

Fucking cunt. I hope he uses it against her and gets full custody or something.


I completely disagree. She did what was best for her kid, which was not to have Vick in his life. Vick is obviously not a good dad. I would say its better for the kid.

[The Batman]

So, anyone have any ideas of who is gonna bite it before the series finale?

[Pharon]

I completely disagree. She did what was best for her kid, which was not to have Vick in his life. Vick is obviously not a good dad. I would say its better for the kid.
That's bullshit. If you think Vic is not a good dad then you have absolutely no idea what a bad dad looks like.

[The Batman]

That's bullshit. If you think Vic is not a good dad then you have absolutely no idea what a bad dad looks like.


Come on. Look at his daughter..... if he was a good dad, she wouldn't have ended up that fucked up.

[Pharon]

I don't think she's like that because of him. I think she's like that because she's a female between the ages of 12 and 35.

[The Batman]

I don't think she's like that because of him. I think she's like that because she's a female between the ages of 12 and 35.

But isn't her hatred of her father the thing that has caused her to rebel like that?
So you think Vick will survive the last episode?

[Pharon]

So you think Vick will survive the last episode?
I think Shane will die and maybe even Ronnie. There's no way they kill Vic. If they do I think I may have to throw my TV out the window.

[Jericho]

I had a dream that Claudette went down

[Monster Joe]

I think Shane will die and maybe even Ronnie. There's no way they kill Vic. If they do I think I may have to throw my TV out the window.
Better kill him than throw him in prison, though.

[El Torpedo]

I had a dream that Claudette went down
Claudette dying seems like the only one I have a strong feeling towards. they've been building up her disease for the last couple seasons, making it worse and worse, and really what else can her character do now that shes chief?

Everything else is just too much to call, I feel like both Vic and Shane deserve to die but I don't know how the series will play out at the end, and thats whats awesome about this show.

[Pharon]

Nah, he won't end up in prison. He'll keep his badge and score shitloads of money for his autistic kids' education.

Yeah right.

[janois]

Holy Shit!!! Was Shane gonna pop Vic?!?

[janois]

HOLY SHIT!!
Gangbusters. This ended like gangbusters. I will be sad at the end of this season.

[The Batman]

Wow. Wow. Wow.

[El Torpedo]

Fucking amazing episode. Can't wait to see how they end this but I don't want to see it stop

[The Batman]

Fucking amazing episode. Can't wait to see how they end this but I don't want to see it stop

I like how they approached this whole thing. It made perfect sense for Shane to do what he did and it made perfect sense for everyone to find out.

[Jericho]

Ronnie: What about Jackson?

Vic: Jackson's too young to be a witness.


That's a cold, fucked up train of thought there, fellas

[El Torpedo]

This is looking more and more like it's going to end like the Departed

[Bastard]

As I watch the final few episodes of the Shield, I am reminded that I still want Aceveda to be disgraced and ruined and Shane to be dead. I wish there had been time to develop the earlier storyline involving Dutch turning into a serial killer. Dutch was better as a unstable cop and should go back to strangling cats. Dutch will probably get Billings fired which is fine since Billings is even more of a joke than Dutch.

[The Batman]

This has to be the best tv show out there right now. I am really curious to see what the ending is gonna be like.

[Pharon]

Holy shit, what a great episode.

I can't wait for the series finale.

Best part:

Dumb blonde cop: "Do you have any idea what you just did to me here?"

Mackey/God: "I've done worse."

[Jericho]

Damn, that sucked

Vic threw Ronnie to the wolves to save Corrine, who wasn't in any real danger


Also, yeah....I'm feeling this is gonna end like the Departed, too.

Final shot will be fucking Billings standing over the body count saying "Holeeee shit"

[El Torpedo]

Jesussss christ, that might have been one of my favorite episodes of any show ever. I thought Claudette was going to fucking shoot every motherfucker in the ICE building.

My predictions:
Mara commits suicide, potentially Shane as well, if not, standoff with either Vic or Ronnie being the only survivors to either continue with ICE or go to jail, respectively. Probably not even close to what happens. Amazing.

I`m going to miss this show, but few series can say they`ve had 7 fantastic seasons with little to no shittiness. I think the only storyline I disliked was the Shrek Mackey daddy issues and rebellion

[The Batman]

I thought mara was going to bite it last night, but I don't think she will go there just cause she is pregnant and has the kid. Shane however will bite it. My hope is that Vic lets Ronnie know what he did, and Ronnie at the very least can skip town. And the scene where Vic just spilled the beans on everything, whoah...
Ultimately, I am with everyone thinking that this is going to be a Departed ending, but I do think it will be more noble. Vic won't die in vain. And I hope there is some closure on Dutch's case with that psycho kid.

[Bastard]

Great Episode this week. I’m surprised it took Vic that long to go back for the deal. I expected him to go back as soon as Ronnie took off. There seem to be some loopholes in the contract that Vic signed. Wasn’t one of the conditions that they finish the takedown of Beltran and Vic needs Ronnie to pull that off. It just seems that something in the fine print of the contract will comeback to bite Vic in the ass. That is if Ronnie doesn’t find out about the betrayal and kill Vic first. The Claudette meltdown and Vic confession scenes were superb.



So many possibilities for the finale. I say that Shane either is killed in a robbery, overdoses or eats his own gun. Ronnie probably goes to prison. Claudette is relieved of her command. Dutch and Billings continue to be douchebags. Acevada’s political aspirations are ruined by Vic’s confession. Vic is shot by a paranoid Corrine or maybe Corrine pulls a gun on Vic thinking he knows about her betrayal and Vic’s daughter kills Corrine or one of Vic's kids is killed in a struggle. It seems most likely that Vic survives and everyone else around him dies or is ruined in some fashion.

[Platzhouse]

[QUOTE=Bastard;250374]Acevada’s political aspirations are ruined by Vic’s confession.QUOTE]

Yeah, that's likely. I think he and Claudette are going to work together towards nailing Vick, as the promo for next week shows the two of them together in the barn. I think Aceveda's going to put a wrench in the spokes of the drug deal with Beltran in order to take down Vick & Ronnie.

[El Torpedo]

The Beltrame bust is supposed to be like the biggest drug bust in history though, so I don't see anyone getting much leeway in trying to prevent it just to nail one person (Ronnies already fucked)

The look on that ICE chick when Vic dropped the Crowley bomb was amazing

[The Batman]

I think Vic will succeed in the bust but ultimately will die. So, does anyone think this guy is a hero? Anti-hero? villian? What catergory would you put him in??

[Platzhouse]

I guess you would have to call him an anti-hero or a villain. He's done good in the past, stayed loyal to his team members and his family, etc. However, he's also done a lot of god awful shit, as the scene with him confessing to Olivia showed perfectly. The last few seasons you've had Cavanaugh on his ass about the things he'd done, but it took him actually saying it like that to realize what a villain he truly could be.

I'm interested in Chiklas's thoughts on the character, as he said when the season is finished he will discuss whether he was playing a hero or a villain. It's a tough question though, if a person does villainous things for the greater good, does necessarily make him an anti-hero? Keeping in mind, Vic also looks out for A, #1. most of the time.

[Platzhouse]

Here's an interview with Chiklis & Shawn Ryan. He hints towards his feelings about Vic at one point, noting that it is difficult material for him to work on.

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[emthreepeeoh]

What a fantastic finale.

Shane offing himself was easily the most shocking and fucked up portion of the finale. It was really tragic.

[Platzhouse]

Holy good god damn. What does everyone think? Shawn Ryan said previously he hated David Chase's ambiguous ending of 'The Sopranos', do you think he was too vague himself? Do you think Dutch is the actual killer-they focused pretty heavily on him pocketing that woman's number...do you think Vick truly got what he deserved? In my opinion it was pretty great, Vick delegated to office duty-the apotheosis of everything he hates, was perfect. I'm excited to see everyone's opinion. This show is my favorite.

Edit-I'm pretty shit-faced, sorry if I'm not making sense.

[Insomniac]

He pocketed the number because he's going to hit on her, because he's finally become the man women are attracted to.

The kid was the killer.

[Jericho]

He pocketed the number because he's going to hit on her, because he's finally become the man women are attracted to.

The kid was the killer.
Noooo,dude. That's the one big question I had. I think Dutch killed that broad. He couldn't have been more interested in getting himself on that case

[Insomniac]

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/11/shield-boss-ans.html

Did you want us to think Dutch might have killed Rita (Frances Fisher)? There was that whole cat-strangling after all…

I never felt like Dutch was that far off on the deep end. But we joked about how, in the finale, Dutch would come home and unlock some padlock on a door leading to a basement and there would be a bunch of kids chained to the wall.

[Menace2Sobriety]

Not to get all deep and meaningful on you guys, but do you think this went on too long after Lem's death? That was the most shocking moment on the show, and it could have wrapped up much quicker without all the secondary character bullshit.

[El Torpedo]

I loved the seasons after Lem but I think the buildup and that finale, Shane dropping the grenade and yelling "I'm sorry" was one of the best scenes I have ever seen. This show was as close to perfect as you can get, I don't think they lost anything by continuing on two seasons after Lem. They needed closure with Whitakers character that they couldn't really just wrap up quickly and needed to flesh out in season 5, and there was really no way they could focus on that and the strike teams realization of Shane murdering Lem, in my opinion.

I don't think it was Dutch that murdered Rita and I liked how they left that open, I think if he hadn't focused himself on becoming a detective he easily could have been a serial killer, but I think his thrill is from killing cases so to speak and not people.

The finale was excellent, I felt so bad for Ronnie the whole time because really, aside from Lem he was the most honorable of the strike team. Though to be fair they all really did make their graves with Terry Crowley, I think Lem was the only one who truly believed it wasn't Vic. The rest of their shit was fairly justifiable. Going to miss this show but I'm glad it wrapped without any shittiness.

Annnnnd I think the last scene was pretty clearly pointing out that Vic Mackie was going to become the Punisher.

[fuldstændigamok]

Annnnnd I think the last scene was pretty clearly pointing out that Vic Mackie was going to become the Punisher.

Hahaha, I thought exactly the same thing.

And yeah, the kid was the killer, there are no doubt in my mind. They tried to acknowledge everybody in the finale, which was nice, they did it without pathos, which was great. Shane got the greatest ending, of course, the "happiest" one, they left as a family, on his own term, and they're probably better off that way. Nothing good was waiting for them for the rest of their life.
And now that Vic is stuck in an office, maybe they should do a spin-of/crossover with the Office. Vic, Michael and Dwight sharing the same space should be fun.

[Insomniac]

The son and unborn kid might have had a good life, you know.

[fuldstændigamok]

Where, in foster care?

[El Torpedo]

Do you think Shane actually poisoned them both, or do you think Mara was involved? In his suicide note he said that she was completely innocent, but I doubt that Shane would be capable of killing his family on his own without support from Mara.

[Jericho]

He went out Chris Benoit style

[The Batman]

Holy good god damn. What does everyone think? Shawn Ryan said previously he hated David Chase's ambiguous ending of 'The Sopranos', do you think he was too vague himself? Do you think Dutch is the actual killer-they focused pretty heavily on him pocketing that woman's number...do you think Vick truly got what he deserved? In my opinion it was pretty great, Vick delegated to office duty-the apotheosis of everything he hates, was perfect. I'm excited to see everyone's opinion. This show is my favorite.

Edit-I'm pretty shit-faced, sorry if I'm not making sense.

No, he wasn't vague at all. It gave every character on the show some clear direction on where they were going to go. Everything that happened to Vic is as bad as it could get without including prison.

[Bastard]

Do you think Shane actually poisoned them both, or do you think Mara was involved? In his suicide note he said that she was completely innocent, but I doubt that Shane would be capable of killing his family on his own without support from Mara.

In the note, it said Shane drugged the drinks of his wife and son and obviously neither was aware of what Shane had planned. Shane always was a weak, fucked up individual. I thought the scene with Shane and Vic on the phone was excellent. It summed up both characters pretty well. Shane always wanting to be like Vic and Vic hurting and driving everyone around him away.

I enjoyed the finale. The only minor point was not seeing Acevada fail but since that too was left open to interpretation, I’ll just assume he loses the election or is hurt in some manner. Overall, the Shield was a really great series that ended on a high note and is worth having in everyone’s video library.