Legalize it?

[Bill Paxton]

What do you mean when you say a pack? Pre-rolled joints?

Yeah, i mean im just speculating. I dont know how it will be distributed, but im guessing that at least one form will be like actual filterless or filtered cigarettes

[NOTKyle]

Yeah, i mean im just speculating. I dont know how it will be distributed, but im guessing that at least one form will be like actual filterless or filtered cigarettes

Yeah I was actually just curious how you were thinking it'd be sold in stores. I like the idea of 5 and 10 joint packs, as well as bags sold like chewing tobacco in different weights.

It's a dream world.

[The Ape]

Hi. Nevada called. It said you were ignorant. You needn't call back.

Eh. There is still a negative connotation around it and many who aren't near Nevada don't partake. The Bunny Ranch is good example of the difference between an established business and the whore on the corner.

[The Batman]

it's all moral discomfort painted as a health concern. old, stodgy shits will say drugs are bad bc they kill and lead to crime, but its really bc theyre miserable, old, and jealous. the same people will rally against prostitution, overtly bc of concern for the spread of disease, when theyre really just miserable, old, and jealous.

But by making it legal and controlling it like they do in Nevada its probably safer than getting drunk and having that one night stand. No crime because the girls are looked over, they use condoms and they are tested. Oh well, your right, they are old and miserable and even that wouldn't change their mind. And don't forget the Christian high horse they ride to this conversation.

[The Batman]

Yeah I was actually just curious how you were thinking it'd be sold in stores. I like the idea of 5 and 10 joint packs, as well as bags sold like chewing tobacco in different weights.

It's a dream world.


They should do it like they do it Amesterdam. Illegal to buy, illegal to sell, (unless designated) not illegal to have and only smoke in designated areas.

[zillionaire]

They should do it like they do it Amesterdam. Illegal to buy, illegal to sell, (unless designated) not illegal to have and only smoke in designated areas.

On a lot of things, prostitution, drugs, etc., they have the right idea in Amsterdam. Keeps things sane and safe.

[The Batman]

On a lot of things, prostitution, drugs, etc., they have the right idea in Amsterdam. Keeps things sane and safe.


Its true. Everything is illegal here and crime is ridiculous. Over there everything is legal and they are near bottom of most lists on crime.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

[Jatoza]

One of the other factors that could possibly keep marijuana prices down would be the fact that the plant is a crazy weed that will grow almost anywhere. Getting a crappy plant to grow is not hard, but like people said, some companies would likely produce a higher-end plant whose cost would likely reflect the extra efforts put into it.
Likewise, it could be grown all over the country, so shipping costs would be lowered too.

[yard]

the republicans are much more likely to leagalize pot... they are a capitalists...
tobacco companies are taking huge hits... if they could access pot as a new revenue source then they would regain their glory days...


also republicans are more for states governing themselves.... like california has done with medical marijuana.....

so your political associations with your incarceration are incorrect.

[Crack]

McCain stated that he will continue DEA raids of MMJ in california so I have to respectfully disagree with your statement.

[Jatoza]

the republicans are much more likely to leagalize pot... they are a capitalists...
tobacco companies are taking huge hits... if they could access pot as a new revenue source then they would regain their glory days...


also republicans are more for states governing themselves.... like california has done with medical marijuana.....

so your political associations with your incarceration are incorrect.

Republicans are, in theory, in favor of smaller federal government, but the current politicians don't really practice that.
Moreover, most of them are riding the morality train these days and don't want to be seen getting involved with those damn dirty hippies.

Bold: bad writing. Try again, buddy.

[The Dude]

(In Massachusetts)

I was suprised and impressed that Question 2, which was about passing a law to decriminalize possession of under an ounce of marijuana so that you would basically get a $100 fine and no information would go into the CORI database didn't just pass, but passed by almost a 2-1 margin.

I think more telling however are the misleading positions and statements made by opponents of the issues.

The opponents, who include the governor, attorney general, and district attorneys around the state, argued that decriminalizing marijuana possession would promote drug use and benefit drug dealers at a time when they say marijuana has become more potent. They warned it would increase violence on the streets and safety hazards in the workplace, and cause the number of car crashes to rise as more youths drive under the influence.


In a statement, the Coalition for Safe Streets, which opposed the initiative, blamed the loss on being outspent by supporters of Question 2, which included the billionaire financier George Soros, who spent more than $400,000 in favor of decriminalizing marijuana.


"Now these pro-drug special interests will move on to another state as part of their plan to inflict a radical drug-legalization agenda on as many communities as possible," said the statement.


The Rev. Bruce Wall, pastor of Global Ministries Christian Church in Dorchester, was among several prominent black ministers in Boston who called on fellow clergy to oppose the initiative.


"I guess there are a lot of people smoking the stuff, and they don't see what we see," Wall said.


The initiative's success last night sparked loud cheers from supporters gathered at the Silvertone Bar & Grill in downtown.


"I think this points to how our Legislature is unwilling to represent their constituents on these issues," said Bill Downing, president of the Massachusetts Cannabis Reform Coalition.


http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/11/05/voters_approve_marijuana_law_change/

There is absolutely no scientific or statistically valid evidence that suggests decriminalization increases use or violent activity; those suggestions are purely false. On the one hand stoners are lazy, unmotivated do-nothings, yet on the other they are violent criminals...which is it?

I think the whole point of the initiative is that most marijuana "crimes" are nonviolent and the resources spent on those crimes from top to bottom would be better spent elsewhere.

I also feel that its ridiculous to say that workplace or roadway safety will be compromised...the penalties for DUI are the same and if a workplace needs to ensure safety through the absence of "drugs", then that workplace should have a drug testing plan in place which would in no way be affected by the decriminalization. Employees could still be fired for drug use, even on their own time.

On the one hand, opponents point to simply being outspent by proponents, yet on the other, they intentionally sensationalize their positions to the point where they are just untrue. A great example is the quote about pro-drug special interests moving on to another state now. Again, a ridiculous statement. The proponents are not "pro-drug", they are pro-marijuana. More to the point, I don't think that 65% of the voting populace in MA smokes pot, I think that proponents of the initiative nailed it on the head when the biggest committee called themselves "Committee for Sensible Marijuana Policy".

This was not a campaign or an initiative aimed at legalizing "Drugs". It was about Sensible policy in a time when resources are scarce. I think the last quote from Bill Downing is the most telling in regards to the relationship between lawmakers across the country and their constituents.

[Okie Medicvet]

http://norml.org/

http://veteransformedicalmarijuana.org/links.html

http://cannabistv.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/medical-cannabis-treats-ptsd-but-veterans-cant-have-it/


and as Forrest would say, that's all I have to say about that.