I am sick of absolute morons, hypocrites and crooks running our country

[Deadhead Derek]

Ok, I was thinking that we, as citizens of this nation, have a need for a place to post those stories of the obscene actions of those we have hired to represent us. like this pile of steaming hypocritical politishite.
Like the rep who wanted to shut down congress so he can catch a football game. Like every pork barrel flinging bastard, like any rep who even thinks of talking to the porn guys about a bailout. This is our money, and they work for us. In my opinion, they all need to be fired. every single one of them. now. I will go further and say it is time for the pitchforks and torches. This is our country, not the country of a bunch of elitist pricks who think they are above the laws they have sworn an oath to protect.

I envision this thread to be a place to post the stories of politicians who need to go right the hell now. This isn't about partisan politics, it is about all politicians. Yes there will be more posts by some about the idiocy of Dems, and more by others about the retardation infecting republicans. I don't care, I want all of the stories, and I plan to write to each and every one of them as a citizen asking them to simply explain how their action upholds the constitution, and make lives better for their constituents.


Pelosi Turns Back the Clock on House Reform

Moderate Democrats will be frozen out.


By JOHN FUND (http://online.wsj.com/search/search_center.html?KEYWORDS=JOHN+FUND&ARTICLESEARCHQUERY_PARSER=bylineAND)

Every two years the leadership of the U.S. House of Representatives introduces a new set of rules to govern the body. Normally, this event passes with barely a yawn from the public. But the changes pushed through on Tuesday by Democrats will have real-world consequences for fiscal conservatives of both parties.
Gone are term limits for committee chairmen, a big comeback for seniority over merit. Cost containment measures on Medicare, one of the fastest growing programs, are simply suspended for this Congress.
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Tax increases now will be easier to pass, because opponents will not be allowed to offer a simple motion to strike any increase without making up for the "lost revenue." In addition, tax cuts are made more difficult, because they cannot be offset with spending cuts. The new rules will mean that the only way to push for a tax cut will be to propose a tax increase elsewhere.
Democratic leaders said these changes were needed to make the legislative train run faster. "Congress has to accomplish things," said Massachusetts Rep. Jim McGovern of the Rules Committee. "This is designed to help us do just that."
To further grease the wheels, Democrats have also emasculated the "motion to recommit" -- a procedural safeguard first given to the minority a century ago after a rebellion against tyrannical GOP Speaker Joe Cannon. It has been used by both parties to offer motions to "recommit" or send back bills on the floor to the relevant committees.
Republicans used the tactic 50 times in the last Congress, primarily to block tax increases buried in larger bills. Sometimes they also used the device to tack on a popular amendment to a bill -- such as an amendment in 2007 ending Washington, D.C.'s, then-existing gun ban, which was added to a bill on voting rights for D.C. residents. That made the overall bill political poison, forcing an infuriated Speaker Nancy Pelosi to pull the bill off the floor.
Her new rules package severely limits the use of motions to recommit. Dismissing GOP complaints about this change, Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank said the minority was only "interested in game playing."
Mrs. Pelosi used to see things differently. Back in 2004, she unveiled a proposed "Bill of Rights" to protect House minority interests. It called on Republicans to allow more meaningful substitutes to bills, give members enough time to read bills before final votes, and stop holding roll-call votes past the normal 15 minutes. She had a point. In late 2003, Republican leaders held open a roll-call vote on the Medicare drug entitlement for three hours until they bullied enough wavering members into voting aye.
Mrs. Pelosi warned in 2004 that "When we [Democrats] are shut out, they are shutting out the great diversity of America." We want a higher standard." In 2006, just before becoming speaker, Mrs. Pelosi reiterated her plans to promote "bipartisanship" and "to ensure the rights of the minority."
That was then. This month, she even suggested passing a huge new stimulus package before Barack Obama is sworn in on Jan. 20.



Term limits on committee chairs -- part of the 1994 GOP "Contract With America" -- modified a seniority system that entrenched power in a handful of members. Overall, it has helped inject new ideas and merit into Congress. But Democratic bulls wanted their old power back, so now longevity will once again determine who runs the show. Can this really be the "change" that voters wanted last November? Wags are already joking that Democrats are really delivering "senility you can believe in."
Ironically, some of the biggest losers from the Pelosi rules changes will be fiscally conservative Blue Dog Democrats. The "pay-go" rules they fought so hard for two years ago -- to require new spending proposals be balanced with additional revenue or cuts elsewhere -- have been gutted. And no term limits will mean they will have to stand in line for a taste of real power.
"All those nice pro-life, gun-owning young Democrats recruited to run by Rahm Emanuel will never have any real influence now," says Grover Norquist, head of Americans for Tax Reform. "They were useful in getting Democrats a majority but now they'll be in the back of the bus."
Barack Obama ran for president pledging to end needless partisanship and to create "a new politics." He is at least making a stab at that by appointing a couple of cabinet members with Republican ties and consulting with GOP Congressional leaders. It's unsettling that his fellow Democrats on Capitol Hill seem intent on marching in a completely opposite direction.
Mr. Fund is a columnist for WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/opinion).

[Archetype]

Lulz, your country sucks. (fyi, the only way you'll stop it is if you get a stalinesque dictator)

[Claydon]

so much for the end of partisanship.




change we need?!

[Deadhead Derek]

Harry Reid. another douche thats time in power should be over.





Quotes on Burris: When 'no' doesn't mean forever

1 day ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — What a difference a week makes.
On Dec. 30, after Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich appointed Roland Burris to the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid and assistant leader Dick Durbin of Illinois said no, plain and simple.
They declared, "Anyone appointed by Gov. Blagojevich cannot be an effective representative of the people of Illinois and, as we have said, will not be seated by the Democratic caucus."
By Wednesday, after a week of heated talk about race, politics and the law, their "no" had gone missing and the whole thing seemed to have become more of a procedural matter.
Said Durbin, after he and Reid smiled for photos with Burris at the Capitol: "I think it was important that the United States Senate say — and we did, as a Democratic caucus unanimously — that we were going to carefully scrutinize and review the process by which this Senate seat would be filled if Governor Blagojevich was involved, and that's what happened."
Said Reid: "People ask a lot of times why we have to do various things procedurally here in the Senate. It's because we're the Senate; that's how we operate."

[the creeps]

you title alone says it all.

[UNC]

His thread title reveals that he has no problem with perverts running the country, hence his campaign.

[Archangel]

If morons keep getting elected to office, then maybe one should look at the folks doing the voting...

[heelsguy]

pelosi has long been a subject of my ire. she is one dispicable woman. and harry reid could not be more a lightweight if he was 100% helium

[Morfin]

Lulz, your country sucks. (fyi, the only way you'll stop it is if you get a stalinesque dictator)

Yeah, you're one to talk. Hey, how's Parliament been runnin' the past month?

[Limp]

I find this thread awesome because it was stared by Derek.

[vasili denisov]

The new rules will mean that the only way to push for a tax cut will be to propose a tax increase elsewhere.To further grease the wheels, Democrats have also emasculated the "motion to recommit" -- a procedural safeguard first given to the minority a century ago after a rebellion against tyrannical GOP Speaker Joe Cannon. It has been used by both parties to offer motions to "recommit" or send back bills on the floor to the relevant committees.
Republicans used the tactic 50 times in the last Congress, primarily to block tax increases buried in larger bills. Sometimes they also used the device to tack on a popular amendment to a bill -- such as an amendment in 2007 ending Washington, D.C.'s, then-existing gun ban, which was added to a bill on voting rights for D.C. residents. I'm not sure why you're citing these as examples of government acting in a way that makes you wish to storm it with pitchforks and flames.

I think most people in the United States would like the government to be more fiscally responsible. One aspect of this is that you shouldn't be able to just make tax cuts without immediate consequence; it's in the self-interest of politicians to implement tax cuts since they're popular with constituents, and the possible long-term consequence (accumulation of debt) can be pushed aside until a politician is out of office.

The second measure would reduce the number of amendments irrelevant to bills, placed there solely so the bill is voted down or not voted on. What is the problem here? Isn't this what constituents demand of government, that it operate more efficiently, that their representatives be able to vote on a bill's merits, not on some amendment that has nothing to do with the bill? Fund also commits a large dishonesty in citing the end of DC's gun ban as a popular amendment. It may have been popular among those supporting broader gun ownership rights, it was not popular among capitol residents.

[Deadhead Derek]

To me it is not the substance of the action, it is the perpetual waivering of convictions to fit the political climate at the moment, often borne of the desire to remain in power, rather than to do the constituents bidding. I have no problem with cleaning up the process for consideration of bills, I just am sickened by the posturing of these career politicians for their own gain. The pitchfork idea is really a kneejerk on my part to hearing that the federal government spent even enough time to entertain the beginning of an idea that they would even talk to the porn industry for a bailout. That is pitchfork worthy. People are becoming homeless, but keep those dvd's coming? I think not.

[redsox39]

If morons keep getting elected to office, then maybe one should look at the folks doing the voting...

Thank you.

[Pike Bishop]

If morons keep getting elected to office, then maybe one should look at the folks doing the voting...

If the people doing the voting are being forced to choose between morons and douchebags, maybe it's time to start seriously thinking about ditching the two party system...

[SimpleSean]

It's flawed but stable. Coalition governments are a bundle of nerves.

And people keep forgetting about the power of local government, a level at which it's very feasible and quite common to be elected without being a Democrat or Republican.

edit: But in the spirit of this noble thread, local politicians can be bozo's, too.

If you voted for him or not, Obama has genuine celebrity cache and has amply shown he can motivate collective will. Maybe he can shake it up. Pelosi's definitely not helping America.

Seriously, I think Tom Foley was the last Speaker of the House who people almost universally respected. I only know him because he was from the great state of Washington.

[Claydon]

Obama may be the messiah, but he has yet to deal with congress.

might as well herd cats.

[taters]

Ive noticed an odd little quirk about how people hate the government. At all times everyone admits its fucked up, but when their party is in control, they magically seem willing to excuse and even support the governments 'fucked upness'.

When that changes and the opposing party is in control the 'we need reform' arguments come out in flares.

Not saying I dont agree that the US has a fucked system of government, I just think that people are only angry and want to change it when the party they support isnt in charge.

[bodybuilder24]

I didn't vote of Obama, but I'm pulling for him, as I would any president. I hope he can make a change like he says he can!

[Deadhead Derek]

Ive noticed an odd little quirk about how people hate the government. At all times everyone admits its fucked up, but when their party is in control, they magically seem willing to excuse and even support the governments 'fucked upness'.

When that changes and the opposing party is in control the 'we need reform' arguments come out in flares.

Not saying I dont agree that the US has a fucked system of government, I just think that people are only angry and want to change it when the party they support isnt in charge.ah, but as the starter of this thread, I am picking on each and every moronic statement by either party. My point is that it is time to clean house...and senate... thanks for playing....

[Das Kahlua]

How about Obama appointing a former lobbyist and VP for a defense contractor as his deputy Sec of Def, a position that is in charge of assigning defense funds to various contractors? This same Obama who claimed he would crack down on the power of lobbyists.

I guess DC really does change people...

[Okie Medicvet]

I find this thread awesome because it was stared by Derek.

That too.

I think it is one of the better rants I have heard in a while because of its validity.

[taters]

ah, but as the starter of this thread, I am picking on each and every moronic statement by either party. My point is that it is time to clean house...and senate... thanks for playing....

I wasnt arguing your point, only stating why I think change never happens. But it applies nonetheless.

Repubs did in fact complain throughout the bush reign, but it didnt stop them from voting for him, or at the very least not voting democrat. During the clinton years, dems complained, but they always checked D in the booth.

Third parties will never get support unless via grass root efforts, and even then it wont work because their platforms get hijacked by the stronger and more well funded parties.

Your welcome. Wheres my prizes?

[Das Kahlua]

That too.

I think it is one of the better rants I have heard in a while because of its validity.

A validity that the media has, for some reason, decided to completely ignore.

[Deadhead Derek]

How about Obama appointing a former lobbyist and VP for a defense contractor as his deputy Sec of Def, a position that is in charge of assigning defense funds to various contractors? This same Obama who claimed he would crack down on the power of lobbyists.

I guess DC really does change people...
it is exactly what I am talking about. every goddamn president , it is the same frigging story. sort of like a verbal breach of political contract. they say "change" "hope" and whatever McCain was mumbling, and fail completely to follow through on a single stated goal. In any job, if you fail to complete any of the objectives you were hired to do (based on the campaigns "stated" goals) you me, or anyone else would be fired. We hired these assclowns, we need to get to the point were we make an example of one, just to get the subsequent ones in line.

You really weren't that off, tater.

[Deadhead Derek]

A validity that the media has, for some reason, decided to completely ignore.
Thank god. I am sooo done with the media.

[Pike Bishop]

And people keep forgetting about the power of local government, a level at which it's very feasible and quite common to be elected without being a Democrat or Republican.

edit: But in the spirit of this noble thread, local politicians can be bozo's, too.

Here in Eastern MA, you must be a Democrat to get elected, unless you're running for Governor. The good news for conservatives is, around here a cunt like Tom DeLay could run as a Democrat without changing any of his policy views as long as he converted to Catholicism and curried favor with the unions. Well, actually a douche like him would have to have an Irish surname and run his campaign out of Southie, but it absolutely would be feasible. The one ideological thread that really does bind all of the local politicians around here is that they are corrupt in ways that would make a Chicago native blush. Every single one of the fuckers.

[Archangel]

If the people doing the voting are being forced to choose between morons and douchebags, maybe it's time to start seriously thinking about ditching the two party system...

A political culture in which one candidate attacks the other for using "big words" during a campaign isn't exactly helping, either.

[Ghostrider]

If the people doing the voting are being forced to choose between morons and douchebags, maybe it's time to start seriously thinking about ditching the two party system...

What should we replace it with?


here's one that should go

Kansas City, Mo., has done something perhaps no other city has: It passed an ordinance to keep the mayor's wife from volunteering in his office.Mayor Mark Funkhouser responded with the first veto in the city's history.

When Mayor Funkhouser moved into City Hall, Squitiro grabbed a tiny cubical right outside his door. Squitiro says that, after 30 years together, she knows exactly how Funkhouser thinks. So when people in the office have questions for the mayor — and he's busy — they can just ask her.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95016299

[brentblack]

Lee? I mean Derek........

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Remember Lee Iacocca, the man who rescued Chrysler Corporation from its death throes? He's now 82 years old and has a new book, 'Where Have All The Leaders Gone?'.

Lee Iacocca Says:
'Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder! We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, 'Stay the course.'
Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America , not the damned, 'Titanic'. I'll give you a sound bite: 'Throw all the bums out!'

You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore.
The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs. While we're fiddling in Iraq , the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving 'pom-poms' instead of asking hard questions. That's not the promise of the ' America ' my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I've had enough.

How about you?

I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a patriot if you're not outraged. This is a fight I'm ready and willing to have. The Biggest 'C' is Crisis! (Iacocca elaborates on nine C's of leadership, with crisis being the first.)
Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of crisis. It's easy to sit there with your feet up on the desk and talk theory. Or send someone else's kids off to war when you've never seen a battlefield yourself. It's another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling down.

On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong leader more than any other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out of the ashes. A hell of a mess, so here's where we stand.
We're immersed in a bloody war with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving.
We're running the biggest deficit in the history of the country.
We're losing the manufacturing edge to Asia , while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health care costs.
Gas prices are skyrocketing, and nobody in power has a coherent energy policy. Our schools are in trouble.

Our borders are like sieves.

The middle class is being squeezed every which way.

These are times that cry out for leadership.

But when you look around, you've got to ask: 'Where have all the leaders gone?' Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, omnipotence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point.

Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo?
We've spent billions of dollars building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have already happened.

Name me one leader who emerged from the crisis of Hurricane Katrina. Congress has yet to spend a single day evaluating the response to the hurricane or demanding accountability for the decisions that were made in the crucial hours after the storm.
Everyone's hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping it doesn't happen again. Now, that's just crazy. Storms happen. Deal with it. Make a plan. Figure out what you're going to do the next time.

Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when 'The Big Three' referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen, and more important, what are we going to do about it?

Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debt, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry.

I have news for the gang in Congress. We didn't elect you to sit on your asses and do nothing and remain silent while our democracy is being hijacked and our greatness is being replaced with mediocrity. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bonehead on Fox News will call them a name? Give me a break. Why don't you guys show some spine for a change?

Had enough? Hey, I'm not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here. I'm trying to light a fire. I'm speaking out because I have hope - I believe in America . In my lifetime, I've had the privilege of living through some of America's greatest moments. I've also experienced some of our worst crises: The 'Great Depression,' 'World War II,' the 'Korean War,' the 'Kennedy Assassination,' the 'Vietnam War,' the 1970's oil crisis, and the struggles of recent years culminating with 9/11.

If I've learned one thing, it's this: 'You don't get anywhere by standing on the sidelines waiting for somebody else to take action. Whether it's building a better car or building a better future for our children, we all have a role to play. That's the challenge I'm raising in this book. It's a "Call to Action" for people who, like me, believe in America '. It's not too late, but it's getting pretty close. So let's shake off the crap and go to work. Let's tell 'em all we've had 'enough.'

Make your own contribution by sending this to everyone you know and care about. It's our country, folks, and it's our future. Our future is at stake!!

[nobody]

Well, I don't think we did the country any favors, by electing a very devisive "non-leader" with seriously questionable ethics and a wife that is a national embarrassment. Lee should have run, I'd have voted for him.

[Pike Bishop]

Well, I don't think we did the country any favors, by electing a very devisive "non-leader" with seriously questionable ethics and a wife that is a national embarrassment. Lee should have run, I'd have voted for him.

Agreed. Of course, we had to compound our error by actually re-electing him in 2004. I think we can all be grateful that his time has come and gone.

[The Batman]

Well, I don't think we did the country any favors, by electing a very devisive "non-leader" with seriously questionable ethics and a wife that is a national embarrassment. Lee should have run, I'd have voted for him.

Not that I really disagree but why would you call his wife a national embarrassment? I mean she never really did anything wrong, but then again its not like she made any real difference either.

[Pike Bishop]

Maybe he just doesn't like teachers.