View Full Version : ALL: Who is the greater 6'10" athlete within their sport?
Randy Johnson
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Bill Russell
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To get started.
CrazyCarl
01-25-2009, 04:16 PM
like, overall athlete? or better baseball player vs. better basketball player?
and Wilt Chamberlain ftw
like, overall athlete? or better baseball player vs. better basketball player?
Within their sport. Obviously some sports (NBA, NFL) will dominate other sports (*cough* baseball *cough*) in terms of general athleticism on most days.
and Wilt Chamberlain ftw
I know nothing about basketball so maybe it's wrong, but BBall ref (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/chambwi01.html) lists Wilt at 7'1".
CrazyCarl
01-25-2009, 04:18 PM
I thought this was 6'10 or above
I thought this was 6'10 or above
Ah, that'd be an interesting one too.
Archangel
01-25-2009, 04:21 PM
One championship v eleven, the most by any athlete in pro basketball.
Yeah, no contest there.
Jericho
01-25-2009, 04:21 PM
This is all bad
CrazyCarl
01-25-2009, 04:22 PM
how did Russell win 5 MVP's but only was 1st Team All-NBA three times?
Dragon
01-25-2009, 04:24 PM
Bill Russell might be the best player in NBA history. Don't start with that Jordan garbage. Russell did it first and Russell did it more. The things that werent on the stat sheets the he did are ridiculous.
Russell was a god among men
Archangel
01-25-2009, 04:26 PM
11x NBA Champion (1957, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969)
5x NBA MVP (1958, 1961–1963, 1965)
12x NBA All-Star (1958–1969)
3x All-NBA First Team Selection (1959, 1963, 1965)
8x All-NBA Second Team Selection (1958, 1960–1962, 1964, 1966–1968)
1x NBA All-Defensive First Team Selection (1969)
1x NBA All-Star Game MVP (1963)
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team
NBA 35th Anniversary Team
NBA 25th Anniversary Team
Yeah, he was just the leader and defensive anchor of the most dominant team ever... 11 rings in 13 years just boggles the fucking mind, considering he played against players like Wilt, Walt Bellamy and Nate Thurmond ...
Archangel
01-25-2009, 04:28 PM
how did Russell win 5 MVP's but only was 1st Team All-NBA three times?
Wilt got the first team honours most of the time because he got the numbers. Russ got the championships. I think Russ didn't mind.
Wilt got the first team honours most of the time because he got the numbers. Russ got the championships. I think Russ didn't mind.
If Wilt was the better player as measured by numbers doesn't it stand to reason that Wilt on the Celtics would have just as many, if not more, rings?
I've never understood the "Team Championships as a measure of individual accomplishments" metric. Plus, given the dominance of the Celtics and the crumminess of the DBacks, I think RJ has an argument that he came closer to truly "individually" winning a championship (he and Schilling).
This is stupid
http://www.nndb.com/people/823/000047682/randy-johnson-1-sized.jpg
Oh yeah. Gives me an idea for a stupid crosssport poll.
Don't forget that Russell was Player/Coach after Red retired.
Archangel
01-25-2009, 04:43 PM
If Wilt was the better player as measured by numbers doesn't it stand to reason that Wilt on the Celtics would have just as many, if not more, rings?
I've never understood the "Team Championships as a measure of individual accomplishments" metric. Plus, given the dominance of the Celtics and the crumminess of the DBacks, I think RJ has an argument that he came closer to truly "individually" winning a championship (he and Schilling).
Red built those great Celtics teams around Russell, and most of his teammates ended up in the Hall of Fame, too. Wilt would never have fitted into that system; he went for his numbers, dunking his teammates' shots because there was no offensive goaltending back then. Russell was the supreme team player. He could go for 40 points when his team needed him to, but he didn't feel the need to do that for himself. Why do you think Auerbach passed the C's coaching reigns to him?
To be fair to Wilt, it was very hard to build a team around a guy who averaged 50 points per game for a season and took a third of his team's shots. The two times somebody managed to do it ('67 Sixers, '72 Lakers), the results were nothing short of spectacular.
Archangel
01-25-2009, 04:46 PM
I should do a "Greatest Centre Evar" poll.
Mustard
01-25-2009, 06:19 PM
How tall were Seattle Slew and Secretariat?
At the head instead of the shoulder.