View Full Version : Matt Damon pwns your soul
redsox39
01-27-2009, 10:12 AM
And he is full of himself. I hate this guy everytime he talks for some reason.
<H1>Matt Damon blasts 'repulsive' Bond
8:26AM Tuesday Jan 27, 2009
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Matt Damon. Photo / Supplied
Matt Damon has attacked Ian Fleming's famous British spy James Bond, currently played by Daniel Craig, calling him "repulsive".
He said: "He's repulsive. Bond is an imperialist, misogynist, sociopath who goes around bedding women and swilling martinis and killing people.
"The movies have a formula, they stick to it, and it makes them a lot of money. They know what they are doing and they're going to keep doing it."
Damon was due to play Eliot Ness - a US agent who is famous for his efforts to enforce prohibition in Chicago during the 20s - in new film Torso, but the movie has fallen victim to the current economic climate.
It was due to be directed by David Fincher - whose latest movie The Curious Case of Benjamin Button received 13 Oscar nominations - but Paramount Pictures pulled the plug on the project, fearing it could cost more than £120 million to make.
A source said: "Paramount are still keen to make Torso but don't want it to be an expensive risk so are looking at ways to bring it in for less money. If they can't make their sums work, other Hollywood studios may well step in."
- BANG! SHOWIBZ
But remember boys and Girls, Jason Borne is a kite flying, equal opportunity, monogomist, who only kills people who are big meanies!
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heelsguy
01-27-2009, 10:21 AM
I like him as an actor, but he needs to learn to keep his fucking liberal mouth shut
redsox39
01-27-2009, 10:23 AM
I don't think it is fair to even call him liberal. I know lots of liberals, even here, that wouldn't agree with half the shit spewing out of his mouth. He is like a white Taters.
heelsguy
01-27-2009, 10:28 AM
I don't think it is fair to even call him liberal. I know lots of liberals, even here, that wouldn't agree with half the shit spewing out of his mouth. He is like a white Taters.
someone should remind him that he only PLAYED Will Hunting and that he is not a fucking genious. aske him "how he likes doez apples"
VoxAngelikus
01-27-2009, 10:37 AM
Did he forget the "Bourne" series entirely or was he trying to sound like an idiot on purpose?
Le Goat
01-27-2009, 10:39 AM
So because the only diff between Bourne and Bond is Bourne likes cock but can't remember he does, that makes Bond shit?
Interesting.
Hanover Fist
01-27-2009, 11:03 AM
Funny this should come up. A few weeks ago while doing an interview he started lambasting William Kristol and called him an idiot and said he would debate him. A few days ago Kristol agreed and that they are now setting up a venue for it.
Damon may think he is pretty smart, but I have a feeling he's going to get his shit packed by Kristol myself.
I'll find the article in a moment.
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/category/reviews/
Iraq War Showdown: Bill Kristol Agrees to Debate Matt Damon After Actor’s “Idiot” Slam
by Andrew Breitbart
On Sunday afternoon Weekly Standard editor and New York Times columnist Bill Kristol — in an email exchange with Big Hollywood — agreed to debate Matt Damon on his Hollywood home turf after being informed the 38-year old actor ridiculed Kristol in an interview in the Miami Herald.
“He’s an idiot — he wrote that we should be grateful to George Bush because he won the Iraq war. We! Won! The! War!”
As the sponsor of the event, Big Hollywood is offering $100,000 to Damon (or to the charity or carbon credit of his choice) to publicly debate Kristol at a mutually agreed upon time, date and venue.
During the last election cycle the liberal activist Damon — who briefly attended Harvard University — also heaped scorn on John McCain’s vice presidential pick, Sarah Palin:
“You do the actuary tables, there’s a one out of three chance, if not more, that McCain doesn’t survive his first term, and it’ll be President Palin…. It’s like a really bad Disney movie, ‘The Hockey Mom.’ Oh, I’m just a hockey mom from Alaska, and she’s president. She’s facing down Vladimir Putin and using the folksy stuff she learned at the hockey rink. It’s absurd.”
Damon is no stranger to left-wing politics. His Oscar-nominated screenplay, “Good Will Hunting,” co-written with Ben Affleck, was inspired by anarchist Boston University historian, Howard Zinn.
According to Wikipedia:
Damon included a reference to A People’s History in his film Good Will Hunting. In a confrontation with his psychologist, played by Robin Williams, Damon’s character tells him: “If you want to read a real history book, read Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States. That book will knock you on your ass.” Damon also read the latter half of People’s History for an audiobook released February 1, 2003.
If Damon agrees to participate, Big Hollywood will work with both parties to secure mutually agreed upon parameters for the debate (e.g., Did We Win the War in Iraq?)
Kristol will beat his ass.
Kristol is still a pretty giant douche though.
Also Rounders is awesome.
Morfin
01-27-2009, 11:11 AM
The fact that Damon would agree to such a debate shows he is a complete fool. Another Hollywood idiot surrounded by yes men/boys telling him how good he is and how smart he is and how right he is, now thinking that he can debate in the real world.
Just like Alec Baldwin, Sean Penn, and George Clooney.
The GWD
01-27-2009, 11:13 AM
I honestly don't give a shit about his personal opinions, why the fuck would I?
He's good as an actor, and that's all that fuckin' matters.
Angry Ass Messican Dude
01-27-2009, 11:18 AM
I like Matt Damon's movies. I also think there are elements of truth to the things he talks about, but he has just been a big ol d bag about it for a while now.
If liberalism is a religion, he is it's Tom Cruise.
BIG PIZZLE
01-27-2009, 11:21 AM
I'm OK with Matt Damon. Ben Afleck, however, is a fucking hack.
Hanover Fist
01-27-2009, 11:24 AM
I actually really like Matt Damon as an actor. It always pisses me off when actors who I really like have to be such complete douchebags in real life. Like Matt Damon and Tim Robbins and as much as I hate to admit I even like Alec Baldwins movies for the most part.
Das Kahlua
01-27-2009, 11:42 AM
I'm sick of a bunch of high school/college drop-outs lecturing the rest of society about issues they saw in a Michael Moore movie.
One of the biggest failings of our country, IMO, is how cavalierly we make heroes and role models out of people who's only talents are their looks or the ability to sing or make a jump shot, and then imparting some greater meaning to those talents. Matt Damon recites lines in a movie that were written by someone else--that does not make him an expert on politics, economic, medicine or really anything.
When they start asking accountants their opinions on the NFL draft, I'll start listening to celebrities on politics.
Le Goat
01-27-2009, 11:43 AM
The last good Baldwin movie was ...Red October.
}{arlequin
01-27-2009, 11:44 AM
I'm OK with Matt Damon. Ben Afleck, however, is a fucking hack.
precisely. one is an actor (mr. ripley), another wanted to be a movie star and went on to make such classics as gigli.
the only problem here is that you guys are listening to him. if he was meant to be heard he'd be a motivational speaker or a singer. he's an actor. so he may be a douche w/ a strange point of view, but it doesn't bother me b/c i focus on what he gets paid to do. and he does that well.
hating on damon b/c of his 'talking' is like looking at cindy crawford and hating her singing. or acting. just like damon, it's just not what she's about.
Das Kahlua
01-27-2009, 11:45 AM
The last good Baldwin movie was ...Red October.
Aren't there like 7 Baldwin brothers? I can never tell them apart, but I think I like Billy.
Archetype
01-27-2009, 11:51 AM
Quit being a homo, redsox. This is 2 fucking years old.
LOS ANGELES - Matt Damon’s amnesiac assassin Jason Bourne shares initials with another notorious screen operative. But other than that, Damon doesn’t see any similarities between Bourne and James Bond.Bond is “an imperialist and he’s a misogynist. He kills people and laughs and sips martinis and wisecracks about it,” Damon, 36, told The Associated Press in an interview.
Damon’s new film, “The Bourne Ultimatum,” opens Aug. 3.
“Bourne is this paranoid guy. He’s on the run. He’s not the government. The government is after him. He’s a serial monogamist who’s in love with his dead girlfriend and can’t stop thinking about her,” Damon said. “He’s the opposite of James Bond.”
The third movie in the series based on Robert Ludlum’s books sends Damon’s penitent killer back to his roots to uncover how he became such a perfect weapon and who was responsible.
Damon said he bumped into former Bond star Pierce Brosnan in London and they chatted briefly about how the British super-spy’s movie handlers were trying to update the character with last fall’s “Casino Royale,” which introduced Daniel Craig as Bond.
Brosnan told him the aesthetics and style of Bond can be updated “but fundamentally, what the character is is something from the 1960s,” Damon said.
Paul Greengrass, Damon’s director on Universal’s “Bourne Ultimatum” and its 2004 predecessor, “The Bourne Supremacy,” agreed that Bond is a relic from a different era.
“He’s an insider. He likes being a secret agent. He worships at the altar of technology. He loves his gadgets. And he embodies this whole set of misogynistic values,” Greengrass said. “He likes violence. That’s part of the appeal of the character. He has no guilt. He’s essentially an imperial adventurer of a particularly English sort.
“Personally, I spit on those values. I think we’ve moved on a little bit from all that, the martini shaken, not stirred.”
Bourne and Bond may be very different men, but that still leaves the big question: Which one would win in a fight?
“It’s tough. I wouldn’t bet against Bourne,” Damon said. “Bond had all those gadgets, though.”http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19934693/
Nothing he says is wrong, Ian Fleming was a prick. What're you, pissed because he has an opinion and decides to share it? Fuck off. His business is to know the characters he's playing.
Angry Ass Messican Dude
01-27-2009, 11:53 AM
The only cool Baldwin is Adam, and he isn't one of the brothers.
}{arlequin
01-27-2009, 11:57 AM
i think b/c of the numbers, each baldwin is only permitted one good (decent?) movie. if you put all the films together, it would be a pretty good career resume. as it stands, their names precede them, along w/ all the bombs they've made over the years.
glengarry, backdraft, and october definitely stand out
Archetype
01-27-2009, 12:00 PM
i think b/c of the numbers, each baldwin is only permitted one good (decent?) movie. if you put all the films together, it would be a pretty good career resume. as it stands, their names precede them, along w/ all the bombs they've made over the years.
glengarry, backdraft, and october definitely stand out
What about Pluto Nash? WHAT ABOUT PLUTO NASH??
BIG PIZZLE
01-27-2009, 12:01 PM
Alec Baldwin got got the most Baldwin gene, the rest got table scraps.
Angry Ass Messican Dude
01-27-2009, 12:08 PM
That's a lot of beatin off.
http://ruthlessreviews.com/pics5/fmj3.jpg
}{arlequin
01-27-2009, 12:10 PM
firefly baldwin should be added to the list
Hanover Fist
01-27-2009, 12:10 PM
i think b/c of the numbers, each baldwin is only permitted one good (decent?) movie. if you put all the films together, it would be a pretty good career resume. as it stands, their names precede them, along w/ all the bombs they've made over the years.
glengarry, backdraft, and october definitely stand out
Glengarry is one of my favorite movies of all time, unbeatable dialogue.
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redsox39
01-27-2009, 12:25 PM
Quit being a homo, redsox.
You are right, I should be totally anti-homo like you and defend my sexy heartthrob Matt Damon. Jesus Christ.
He has an Opinion. I have an Opinion. I am sure if you tried real hard, even you would have an original Opinion.
Quit being a homo, redsox.
redsox39
01-27-2009, 12:27 PM
I did notice that there are alot of fanboys in here for Damon. The one woman who can't stop making polls about how horny she is still thinks he sucks. Arch wants him in his Asshole.
redsox39
01-27-2009, 12:27 PM
Quit being a homo, redsox.
I see what you did there...
}{arlequin
01-27-2009, 12:32 PM
I did notice that there are alot of fanboys in here for Damon. The one woman who can't stop making polls about how horny she is still thinks he sucks. Arch wants him in his Asshole.
i think it's more about the fact that he could be an annoying talking idiot for the rest of his life and it would still not take away the fact that his action trilogy is the only one that approaches 'die hard' (yeah, i know, there's 4 of 'em)
not only do the bourne movies deliver, they also keep getting better and better w/ each installment which is a tall order usually
Archetype
01-27-2009, 12:34 PM
You are right, I should be totally anti-homo like you and defend my sexy heartthrob Matt Damon. Jesus Christ.
I meant quit being a homo, redsox. This is 2 fucking years old. Was I not clear about that?
Das Kahlua
01-27-2009, 12:35 PM
Damon should be more pissed that the Bourne movies really did not at all resemble Ludlum's Bourne books, which were friggin awesome.
Hanover Fist
01-27-2009, 12:38 PM
Damon should be more pissed that the Bourne movies really did not at all resemble Ludlum's Bourne books, which were friggin awesome.
The movies weren't bad at all. I thought as far as action movies go, they were probably some of the best ones released recently.
Angry Ass Messican Dude
01-27-2009, 12:39 PM
Damon should be more pissed that the Bourne movies really did not at all resemble Ludlum's Bourne books, which were friggin awesome.
How could they make him hunt the Jackal when an old Special Forces SGT. caught the Jackal in 96?
Angry Ass Messican Dude
01-27-2009, 12:39 PM
And the Jackal was a fat piece of shit instead of a master villian.
Das Kahlua
01-27-2009, 12:44 PM
How could they make him hunt the Jackal when an old Special Forces SGT. caught the Jackal in 96?
Who knows, but trying to keep loyal to a great book series is better than a paint-by-numbers spy action flick with a basic plot that has been done and redone many times, with only the bare minimum of the true storyline kept intact.
You could have made these exact same movies, just changed the main character's name, and it would have had the same success. (Not to mention that having a cold-blooded CIA-esque assassin fits better in this day and age than the real Jason Bourne would have.)
redsox39
01-27-2009, 12:48 PM
Damon should be more pissed that the Bourne movies really did not at all resemble Ludlum's Bourne books, which were friggin awesome.
another reason I hate him, I loved the books...and the movies apparently only use the name. The first one was close, but the other 2? Garbage.
Edit:
Although, my favorite Ludlum books are the "Road to Gandolfo and Omaha"
dick_darlington
01-27-2009, 12:55 PM
I'm OK with Matt Damon. Ben Afleck, however, is a fucking hack.
QFT.
if this debate happens, this could get ugly for matt damon
Archetype
01-27-2009, 12:56 PM
Who knows, but trying to keep loyal to a great book series is better than a paint-by-numbers spy action flick with a basic plot that has been done and redone many times, with only the bare minimum of the true storyline kept intact.
You could have made these exact same movies, just changed the main character's name, and it would have had the same success. (Not to mention that having a cold-blooded CIA-esque assassin fits better in this day and age than the real Jason Bourne would have.)
True I suppose, but it's also Hollywood. This is what they do. Find a book, comic, pamphlet, etc. which has proven to work, and pretty much rewrite it however they want for film. It's not a new occurrence.
Das Kahlua
01-27-2009, 12:57 PM
True I suppose, but it's also Hollywood. This is what they do. Find a book, comic, pamphlet, etc. which has proven to work, and pretty much rewrite it however they want for film. It's not a new occurrence.
Granted.
Too bad Peter Jackson didn't direct those movies, he made the Lord of the Rings closer to the books than I've ever seen a movie made, he doesn't play around.
Archetype
01-27-2009, 01:16 PM
I think this might be the actual source for the OP's article, which I'll give redsox this much, is actually from Sunday:
Matt Damon enters the Coconut Grove recording studio with a smile of obvious relief, notwithstanding the fact that in moments he will have to pronounce words like Kangerdlugssuaq. (You know, the glacier in Greenland.) Narrating a PBS show about the environment, no matter how tongue-torturous, is an easier gig than the one he just left, debating the moral implications of Santa Claus mythology with his 10-year-old daughter.
''We don't allow lying under any circumstances,'' Damon explains ruefully, 'and we've always taught her that. But now she's found out the real story on Santa Claus. `So you were lying!' she says. 'But it's like a great cultural lie,' we tell her. No. 'It's everyone,' we tell her. No. 'It's a fun lie.' No. . . . The argument is just not going well.''
Public policy and Santa Claus are not necessarily intertwined in most American households. But for Damon, a fiercely liberal activist who was one of Barack Obama's first and loudest Hollywood supporters (he compared Sarah Palin's vice presidential candidacy to ''a really bad Disney movie'' and suggested President Bush's twin daughters be packed off to Iraq), politics colors nearly everything.
''What we liked about Matt is that he's Harvard educated, so he's a very smart guy,'' says Hal Weiner, who with his wife Marilyn produces Journey to the Planet Earth, the PBS series Damon has narrated for the past eight years and was working on last week. ``But he's also a little political.''
The Weiners discovered just how political when Damon started arguing with them about some lines he was supposed to read in one episode, which said rising Chinese soybean consumption was leading to slash-and-burn farming in the Brazilian Amazon.
''He really objected,'' Hal Weiner recalls. ``He wanted to make sure we were not just bashing China. We had to bring in some scientists to talk to him before he'd do it.''
A lot of producers would have simply snapped that Damon was being paid to read lines, not write them, but the Weiners -- not exactly apolitical themselves -- were delighted. ''I really loved it that he wasn't willing to just say something without it being confirmed,'' says a laughing Marilyn Weiner.
Damon's intensely political take on life and art was on full view in the Cineart Group studio last week as he taped an episode of Journey to the Planet Earth for telecast on March 18. No chit-chat about cars or makeup or agents, and the only sexual discussion concerned the rampant promiscuity of the slutty fish lurking in the reefs off Belize. (Less weird than it sounds; the show was about the health of oceans.)
Instead, the small talk -- if that's the right phrase -- ranged from which New York Times columnist is the worst (conservative William Kristol, according to Damon: ''He's an idiot -- he wrote that we should be grateful to George Bush because he won the Iraq war. We! Won! The! War!'') to the proper place of torture in American foreign policy.
''Look, the best line about torture I've heard came from [retired CIA officer turned war-on-terrorism critic] Milt Beardon,'' Damon says. ``He said, `If a guy knows where a dirty bomb is hidden that's going to go off in a Marriott, put me in a room with him and I'll find out. But don't codify that. Just let me break the law.'
``Which I think is right. You can't legalize torture. But anybody would do it in that situation. You'd do it to me in that situation; you'd pull out my fingernails if you thought I knew something like that.''
NO JAMES BOND
Damon met Beardon when he was working as a technical advisor on the grim Cold War spy film The Good Shepherd, in which Damon played a fictionalized version of legendary CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton. Damon has acted in several spy movies, including three as discarded CIA superassassin Jason Bourne, and he has developed some very strong opinions on the subject. Do not, for instance, compare that unctuous James Bond fellow to the misguided but moral Bourne.
''They could never make a James Bond movie like any of the Bourne films,'' Damon says scornfully. ``Because Bond is an imperialist, misogynist sociopath who goes around bedding women and swilling martinis and killing people. He's repulsive.
``Steve [Soderbergh, who produced yet another of Damon's spy movies, Syriana] told me that years ago he was offered a Bond movie. He told them he'd do it if they gave him creative control. Absolutely not, they said. They have a formula, they stick to it, and it makes them a lot of money. They know what they're doing, and they're going to keep doing it.''
The Bourne movies haven't done too shabbily at the box office themselves, pulling in something over half a billion dollars in ticket sales among them, and another is in the works. Says Damon, who just finished an expensive and probably risky film called The Green Zone, based on a harshly critical nonfiction book about the search for WMDs in Iraq: ``When you make a $125 million Iraq movie, you kind of owe them a Bourne movie.''
Not, he hastily adds, that it's quite as chillingly calculated as that.
'Some people do it like a mathematical equation: `One for them, one for me,' '' says Damon. ``I'm less conscious of it than that. But you're always aware of how much leverage you have to do what you want to do. You want to maintain that. It helps that I like the Bourne movies. I've never felt like I'm slumming.''
Continued (http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/tv/v-fullstory/story/869216.html)
Phil Theehor
01-27-2009, 01:21 PM
Full disclosure: Rounders is one of my all-time favorite movies. I think Damon is great at what he does.
Now, back on topic, ya queeeahs.
I'd really like Hollywood to STFU about politics and here's why:
More than anything I believe in one man, one vote. Babs Streisand and Red Sox should have the exact same say in what goes on in our country. Now, being a star doesn't give you more than one vote, but it gives you a much bigger voice. Vapid reporters will pass along to equally vapid audiences everything that comes out of an entertainer's mouth.
I ain't down with that.
It would be different if it were say, Bill Gates or Bill Clinton, who had a bigger voice than Taters because they actually helped shape the world that we live in today. If you're Matt Damon, Sharon Stone or Britney Spears, you may have entertained us but your contributions end there.
As should your influence.
I'll even take this a step farther. Because of the wealth of famous entertainers and the speed with which they accumulated it, I say their opinions (not votes, but opinions) are far less valid than those of Hanover Fist.
Why? Because almost every issue eventually comes back to economics. And ultimately, they don't live by the same economic rules that we do. You can get up on the stump and say we need to pump more aid into _______ or that we need to raise the gas tax to foster innovation. And those might be great sentiments, but coming out of the mouth of someone for whom a raise in taxes is immaterial, it's really kind of empty.
If an entertainer feels that strongly about something, they should stop imploring the little people to chip in. Rather, pare their dwellings down to one, take out a mortgage on that dwelling, keep a couple hundred grand a year of their earnings and give everything else they have to the cause. I would take that entertainer seriously. Short of that, I want them to shut the fuck up.
redsox39
01-27-2009, 01:33 PM
True I suppose, but it's also Hollywood. This is what they do. Find a book, comic, pamphlet, etc. which has proven to work, and pretty much rewrite it however they want for film. It's not a new occurrence.
Agreed, it isn't new, but out of movies which borrow their names from books, this has to be the worst after "Lawnmower man"
The GWD
01-27-2009, 01:36 PM
The Bourne books are good, but from the 60's. Unless they set the movies in that era, it wouldn't have worked at all.
Das Kahlua
01-27-2009, 01:37 PM
What I don't get is why would Damon do this in the first place. It's not like James Bond is George Bush's chief assassin in the 'War on Terror;' he's a fictional character, just as every character that Damon has ever played is. I haven't heard Sean Connery, Roger Moore, or anyone else coming out taking shots at the Bourne movies, so what was Damon's motivation for these comments? It's one thing for an actor to criticize the acting ability of another actor, or the job done by a director or producer--what Damon is doing here is taking shots at one of the most popular fictional characters ever.
He isn't accomplishing anything, just making himself sound like a asshole.
EDIT:The Bourne books are good, but from the 60's. Unless they set the movies in that era, it wouldn't have worked at all.
Hollywood survives off making shit up--they could have adapted it to fit, especially since such a small percentage of Americans probably know anything about Carlos the Jackal, they could have pretended he was still on the loose, and people would have bought it.
Archetype
01-27-2009, 01:55 PM
What I don't get is why would Damon do this in the first place. It's not like James Bond is George Bush's chief assassin in the 'War on Terror;' he's a fictional character, just as every character that Damon has ever played is. I haven't heard Sean Connery, Roger Moore, or anyone else coming out taking shots at the Bourne movies, so what was Damon's motivation for these comments? It's one thing for an actor to criticize the acting ability of another actor, or the job done by a director or producer--what Damon is doing here is taking shots at one of the most popular fictional characters ever.
He isn't accomplishing anything, just making himself sound like a asshole.
It's not that big of a jump to go from Jason Bourne to James Bond, I'm pretty sure people here have made references to the stylistic similarities before. And again, I don't think he's exactly wrong about the character.
EDIT:
Hollywood survives off making shit up--they could have adapted it to fit, especially since such a small percentage of Americans probably know anything about Carlos the Jackal, they could have pretended he was still on the loose, and people would have bought it.
I doubt that would go over too well, they'd probably change the name/figure to someone more contemporary, or just completely fictionalize the character. You gotta give the people involved some credit, they're pretty good movies, and I think the 3rd got the best critical reception yet.
Candycane
01-27-2009, 02:05 PM
I love Matt Damon I love Jason Bourne and think he'd be a great president himself. I don't like the new Bonds and haven't since Sean Connery. Redcocks doesn't like Damon because he is a liberal.
Das Kahlua
01-27-2009, 02:28 PM
It's not that big of a jump to go from Jason Bourne to James Bond, I'm pretty sure people here have made references to the stylistic similarities before. And again, I don't think he's exactly wrong about the character.
But that's exactly what I have issue with. He's not taking shots at the Jason Bourne character, and certainly not turning down big bucks to portray the character, or to push the movie on every talkshow and interview he did; instead, he took shots at a very similar character to one that he portrayed, with no clear provocation or rationale.
I doubt that would go over too well, they'd probably change the name/figure to someone more contemporary, or just completely fictionalize the character. You gotta give the people involved some credit, they're pretty good movies, and I think the 3rd got the best critical reception yet.
As action movies, sure they were pretty good, especially compared to some of the straight to DVD crap that is out there these days. As a fan of the books, however, I would rather they had at least tried to keep the movies more loyal to the books, or just make the same movies but not try and tie it to Ludlum--that of course would have taken away an avenue for them to advertise, and that would be a mortal sin in Hollywood.
I understand reality, I just don't like it.
Archetype
01-27-2009, 02:38 PM
But that's exactly what I have issue with. He's not taking shots at the Jason Bourne character, and certainly not turning down big bucks to portray the character, or to push the movie on every talkshow and interview he did; instead, he took shots at a very similar character to one that he portrayed, with no clear provocation or rationale.
The characters are similar on the surface, but the underlying nature and motives, after a little thought, become clearly different. One is pissed about being manipulated as a pawn to do the government's dirty work. The other relishes it. Bourne (or movie Bourne, at least), never kills without a reason, and there's even some humanity to, say, Clive Owen's death (though, to be fair, there was to Eva Green's too). It's made quite clear in Casino Royale that Bond is perfectly fine with killing; hell, in the beginning of Quantum of Solace, he kills targets that he was supposed to get information from, for no apparent reason other than he felt like it. The genre is the same, but they're fundamentally different.
As action movies, sure they were pretty good, especially compared to some of the straight to DVD crap that is out there these days. As a fan of the books, however, I would rather they had at least tried to keep the movies more loyal to the books, or just make the same movies but not try and tie it to Ludlum--that of course would have taken away an avenue for them to advertise, and that would be a mortal sin in Hollywood.
I understand reality, I just don't like it.
Understood.
Jericho
01-27-2009, 02:39 PM
Good Will Hunting, Rounders and that's about it. Fuck Bourne
Hanover Fist
01-27-2009, 02:45 PM
Good Will Hunting, Rounders and that's about it. Fuck Bourne
Syriana , The Departed, and The Good Shepherd were all pretty good too.
Jericho
01-27-2009, 02:47 PM
Syriana , The Departed, and The Good Shepherd were all pretty good too.
I'll give you The Departed, but I think he was my least favorite part
Pax Britannia
01-27-2009, 02:48 PM
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Phil Theehor
01-27-2009, 02:53 PM
I'll give you The Departed, but I think he was my least favorite part
He was one of two who got the accent right.
Jericho
01-27-2009, 02:56 PM
He was one of two who got the accent right.
He always sounds like that. He just hammed it up
Jericho
01-27-2009, 02:56 PM
Lemme guess, Wahlberg's the other one. Shocker how Boston guys sound like they're from Boston
Archetype
01-27-2009, 03:05 PM
Good Will Hunting, Rounders and that's about it. Fuck Bourne
Syriana , The Departed, and The Good Shepherd were all pretty good too.
For a name actor, he doesn't really have many more roles than that. The few Oceans movies, the few romance/feel good movies, Talented Mr. Ripley, Stuck On You, and a bunch of cameos and narration work. Hell, Pvt. Ryan was a relatively small part. Seems strange he doesn't write more.
Matt Damon Sucks because: He insulted James Bond
Genius
01-27-2009, 03:52 PM
Most of you are pathetically hypocritical. First, you criticize people for having a political voice, when most of America is being criticized for not giving a shit about politics. One way or the other, people. Second, Matt Damon is being told to shut the fuck up because he's a celebrity, and yet not one of you would shut the fuck up if you were a celebrity. Those of you that are telling him to shut up are some of the biggest participants in the P&C forum, and given celebrity status, MAYBE you could keep your mouth shut in the media about politics for a couple of years. But a decade? No. Anyone who cares about politics at all and has the biggest stage imaginable constantly available will eventually let their personal beliefs be known to the public. You all would do it, and you can't deny it.
And face it, if this was Clint Eastwood or Ted Nugent or Larry the fucking Cable Guy praising the Iraq war, you'd have nothing to say about it.
}{arlequin
01-27-2009, 04:46 PM
Matt Damon Sucks because: He insulted James Bond
that's not saying much since judi dench, THE M HERSELF, insulted james in goldeneye
called him a misogynistic dinosaur that's outlived his usefulness i believe...
<3
Pax Britannia
01-27-2009, 04:47 PM
that's not saying much since judi dench, THE M HERSELF, insulted james in goldeneye
called him a misogynistic dinosaur that's outlived his usefulness i believe...
<3
Yeah but she only said that because she wanted to fuck him and he turned her down.
}{arlequin
01-27-2009, 04:55 PM
haven't you seen mr. ripley? i'm sure it's the same situation w/ damon and bond
Alcestis
01-27-2009, 04:55 PM
Most of you are pathetically hypocritical. First, you criticize people for having a political voice, when most of America is being criticized for not giving a shit about politics. One way or the other, people. Second, Matt Damon is being told to shut the fuck up because he's a celebrity, and yet not one of you would shut the fuck up if you were a celebrity. Those of you that are telling him to shut up are some of the biggest participants in the P&C forum, and given celebrity status, MAYBE you could keep your mouth shut in the media about politics for a couple of years. But a decade? No. Anyone who cares about politics at all and has the biggest stage imaginable constantly available will eventually let their personal beliefs be known to the public. You all would do it, and you can't deny it.
And face it, if this was Clint Eastwood or Ted Nugent or Larry the fucking Cable Guy praising the Iraq war, you'd have nothing to say about it.
Wow...your wisdom is captivating.
Now, STFU! /s
Mustard
01-27-2009, 05:09 PM
I love Matt Damon and I want him in my asshole.
Genius
01-27-2009, 05:11 PM
I love Matt Damon and I want him in my asshole.
He's already there. He just has a puppet penis.
Mustard
01-27-2009, 05:16 PM
So that's what that was?
Whew... I thought it might be a polyp.
Genius
01-27-2009, 05:18 PM
So that's what that was?
Whew... I thought it might be a polyp.
Strangely, a puppet penis is often referred to as a polyp. By those in the know.
Mustard
01-27-2009, 05:20 PM
Damn. I've been exposed.
Actors shouldn't use their fame as a political pulpit. PS, I love sucking Ronald Reagans cock.
Mustard
01-27-2009, 05:25 PM
I've never been into necrophelia. What's it like?
Das Kahlua
01-27-2009, 06:17 PM
I've never been into necrophelia. What's it like?
The chick doesn't move around much. Other than that, basically the same.
dick_darlington
01-27-2009, 06:40 PM
haven't you seen mr. ripley? i'm sure it's the same situation w/ damon and bond
what matt damon has a crush on daniel craig, takes him on a boat and kills him with an oar?
}{arlequin
01-27-2009, 06:42 PM
ya oarly!
i got nothin
Archangel
01-27-2009, 07:16 PM
I'm sick of a bunch of high school/college drop-outs lecturing the rest of society about issues they saw in a Michael Moore movie.
Yeah, because political discourse on GMF is only conducted by Senate staffers, poli-sci teachers and career FSOs...
Also, what Genius said. It's funny how the most vocal guys of PnC are telling somebody that he isn't allowed to make his opinion known.
Pax Britannia
01-27-2009, 07:20 PM
Yeah, because political discourse on GMF is only conducted by Senate staffers, poli-sci teachers and career FSOs...
But at least no-one basis their political beliefs on the trends of GMF members.
We all know these days the only way to be 'cool and hip' is to have the same liberal philosophy as Hollywood.
Archangel
01-27-2009, 07:23 PM
Hey, if people take the political commentary of celebrities seriously, that's their problem.
But last I checked, if Yelram is allowed to spew his stuff on an internet forum, trying to get people to see things his way, why shouldn't a famous actor use his manifold opportunities to do the same thing?
I love how random guys on the internet who more often than not get their bullet points from Rush Limbaugh want to take away someone's right to voice his opinion because he dares voice it in a less than perfectly thought out manner...
Genius
01-27-2009, 07:24 PM
But at least no-one basis their political beliefs on the trends of GMF members.
We all know these days the only way to be 'cool and hip' is to have the same liberal philosophy as Hollywood.
Try being a liberal in the Midwestern US, then get back to me about how "cool and hip" it is.
Archangel
01-27-2009, 07:25 PM
Must be hard, acting cool while strapped to a cross.
Pax Britannia
01-27-2009, 07:29 PM
Hey, if people take the political commentary of celebrities seriously, that's their problem.
But last I checked, if Yelram is allowed to spew his stuff on an internet forum, trying to get people to see things his way, why shouldn't a famous actor use his manifold opportunities to do the same thing?
I love how random guys on the internet who get their bullet points from Rush Limbaugh ridicule somebody because he dares voice his less than perfectly thought out opinion.
If a celebrity talks about his/her political beliefs in public or uses their fame to promote a political cause then they can expect to be called out on it or mocked like any ordinary person. That's all i'm saying.
Archangel
01-27-2009, 07:34 PM
Absolutely; I'm the first to say how 90% of celebrities who open their mouths on subjects more significant than haircuts sound like idiots.
But to tell them to shut up and stop being involved altogether, and then turn around and tell a bunch of people on the internet that Obama is a Muslim communist liberal Christian fundamentalist and will doom us all, well, that smacks a bit of hypocrisy.
Pax Britannia
01-27-2009, 07:38 PM
Absolutely; I'm the first to say how 90% of celebrities who open their mouths on subjects more significant than haircuts sound like idiots.
But to tell them to shut up and stop being involved altogether, and then turn around and tell a bunch of people on the internet that Obama is a Muslim communist liberal Christian fundamentalist and will doom us all, well, that smacks a bit of hypocrisy.
Oh right. See I tend to ignore Yelrams posts so I thought you were just arguing that Matt Damon and other retarded celebrities were worth listening to.
Archangel
01-27-2009, 07:41 PM
What I fail to see is how the average celebrity with a basic interest in politics would be any less informed than the average GMFer.
Just putting that out there. I'm pretty sure that to a political pro or a serious journalist, 90% of posts here on political subjects look like utter drivel, too.
mongo
01-27-2009, 07:43 PM
matt damon is a faggot. i have never liked any of his movies.
also, how long until he plays john elway in a bio film?
White Rhino
01-27-2009, 07:56 PM
Do not ever insult Bond. With out Ian Flemmings books where would we be?
Archetype
01-27-2009, 08:11 PM
Hey, if people take the political commentary of celebrities seriously, that's their problem.
But last I checked, if Yelram is allowed to spew his stuff on an internet forum, trying to get people to see things his way, why shouldn't a famous actor use his manifold opportunities to do the same thing?
I love how random guys on the internet who more often than not get their bullet points from Rush Limbaugh ridicule somebody because he dares voice his less than perfectly thought out opinion.
It seems even weirder to me, that a bunch of people that usually have pretty well thought out opinions would have such a knee-jerk reaction.
Morfin
01-27-2009, 08:26 PM
Also, what Genius said. It's funny how the most vocal guys of PnC are telling somebody that he isn't allowed to make his opinion known.
There are two things I resent when these actors speak about politics. One, their use of the bully pulpit of fame; and two, the hyperbolic, superficial, celebrity-oriented press that publicizes this guys opinions. As a poster stated earlier, the minute the press cares about an accountant's opinons on the NFL draft, is when he will pay attention to actors' political opinions.
And that is the point: as to political opinions, an actor's are no different than any layman or GMF poster. Yet, because of the public's apparent appetite for celebrity-related news, and the media's publication of such opinions, we are stuck with such press reports.
nuclearjew
01-27-2009, 08:28 PM
matt damon is a faggot. i have never liked any of his movies.
Not even Stuck On You, you connoisseur of fine films?
Jericho
01-27-2009, 08:31 PM
Not even Stuck On You, you connoisseur of fine films?
Greg Kinnear is weird. I either think he's pretty good or I fucking hate him. That was an instance of the latter.
He plays pricks pretty well
Genius
01-27-2009, 08:34 PM
There are two things I resent when these actors speak about politics. One, their use of the bully pulpit of fame; and two, the hyperbolic, superficial, celebrity-oriented press that publicizes this guys opinions. As a poster stated earlier, the minute the press cares about an accountant's opinons on the NFL draft, is when he will pay attention to actors' political opinions.
And that is the point: as to political opinions, an actor's are no different than any layman or GMF poster. Yet, because of the public's apparent appetite for celebrity-related news, and the media's publication of such opinions, we are stuck with such press reports.
You could just, I don't know, not listen to him. But that seems to be the problem now, doesn't it? Even if you bitch about his opinions and complain that he shouldn't use his celebrity to voice them, you still listen and give him the very attention that gives him the ability do the very things you're sick of. Interesting.
Genius
01-27-2009, 08:35 PM
Greg Kinnear is weird. I either think he's pretty good or I fucking hate him. That was an instance of the latter.
He plays pricks pretty well
He was my favorite character in Little Miss Sunshine.
Jericho
01-27-2009, 08:36 PM
He was my favorite character in Little Miss Sunshine.
And he was kind of a prick
nuclearjew
01-27-2009, 08:37 PM
He was great in As Good As It Gets.
Archangel
01-27-2009, 08:40 PM
He was great in As Good As It Gets.
In which he was a gay prick.
nuclearjew
01-27-2009, 08:42 PM
He wasn't a prick, his boyfriend manager guy was.
Pax Britannia
01-27-2009, 08:42 PM
In which he was a gay prick.
Pansy ass stool pusher!
32cil3p55z4
Jericho
01-27-2009, 08:43 PM
He was great in As Good As It Gets.
Meh. Nicholson fucking killed it, though
Jericho
01-27-2009, 08:44 PM
I'm watching Quantum Of Solice right now to spite Matt Damon
Archangel
01-27-2009, 08:46 PM
He wasn't a prick, his boyfriend manager guy was.
Like I differentiate between different film faux faggots.
Jericho
01-27-2009, 08:50 PM
That was pretty un-Archlike. Shame on you, Paul
Archangel
01-27-2009, 08:51 PM
Meh.
Jericho
01-27-2009, 08:52 PM
That's better
Pax Britannia
01-27-2009, 08:53 PM
I still cant get over the fact that Arch's name is Paul.
nuclearjew
01-27-2009, 08:56 PM
Like I differentiate between different film faux faggots.
You differentiate between different faggy shoes.
Jericho
01-27-2009, 08:58 PM
I still cant get over the fact that Arch's name is Paul.
Well, you probably should, because it's not that big of a deal. That really shouldn't weigh on your mind
Pax Britannia
01-27-2009, 09:01 PM
Well, you probably should, because it's not that big of a deal. That really shouldn't weigh on your mind
Dont worry, it doesnt keep me up at night.
Archangel
01-27-2009, 09:02 PM
I still cant get over the fact that Arch's name is Paul.
What should it be? All first sons in our family have a name beginning with "P"; not really much in the way of choices there...
You differentiate between different faggy shoes.
Yeah, but that's easy, since they're numbered. I r dumb.
nuclearjew
01-27-2009, 09:03 PM
What should it be? All first sons in our family have a name beginning with "P"; not really much in the way of choices there...
Pho
Archangel
01-27-2009, 09:04 PM
Pho
I AM NOT VIETNAMESE DAMNIT
Genius
01-27-2009, 09:04 PM
Penny. Or Pam.
Pax Britannia
01-27-2009, 09:05 PM
What should it be? All first sons in our family have a name beginning with "P"; not really much in the way of choices there...
I just thought it would be something more posh thats all. I guess there arent that many choices when it comes to P.
Jericho
01-27-2009, 09:05 PM
Phag
Archangel
01-27-2009, 09:05 PM
And I should be ashamed?
If I ever have a son, God have mercy on him. Because he's gonna be called Pius or Pancratius.
Phil Theehor
01-27-2009, 09:06 PM
Most of you are pathetically hypocritical. First, you criticize people for having a political voice, when most of America is being criticized for not giving a shit about politics. One way or the other, people. Second, Matt Damon is being told to shut the fuck up because he's a celebrity, and yet not one of you would shut the fuck up if you were a celebrity. Those of you that are telling him to shut up are some of the biggest participants in the P&C forum, and given celebrity status, MAYBE you could keep your mouth shut in the media about politics for a couple of years. But a decade? No. Anyone who cares about politics at all and has the biggest stage imaginable constantly available will eventually let their personal beliefs be known to the public. You all would do it, and you can't deny it.
And face it, if this was Clint Eastwood or Ted Nugent or Larry the fucking Cable Guy praising the Iraq war, you'd have nothing to say about it.
It seems you are addressing me here, ye of the ironic name (and you, too, Archie. I'm keeping a list).
First off, I didn't draw this along party lines. You'll notice that the two non-entertainment-celebrities I cited with voices that add value were a former president and a titan of business. Both are Dems. And no, I give no more weight to the Nuge's feelings on NAFTA than I do Babs Streisand's (although, he is funny. She is a shrill cunt). Regardless of party affiliation, I want them all to STFU about politics. Nice kneejerk reaction, though. Way to read in things into another post that aren't there.
Regarding being active in the P&C forum, I'm shocked that I have to draw this out for you, but I will. I'll use small words.
I'm active there because it is an anonymous forum. It's called an "outlet". I wouldn't speak that strongly about political issues IRL to anyone outside my immediate family & friends. I wouldn't want to alienate people. It's bad business.
So you say (with great certainty), Genius, that if I suddenly became a celebrity, I'd be up on the stump in two years pushing the Libertarian agenda to anyone with a microphone? Fuck, no. That would be retarded. It would be (just as it would be now) bad business. The only thing you would ever get out of me is that I didn't think celebrities warranted a bigger voice than the common person in relation to politics.
And Arch, I'm surprised at you. The elitist's elitist defending the wholly unqualified? Haven't you said, roughly 150 times, that you have the decency not to put forth an opinion about issues in physics? And that you expect that same courtesy from people who do not study the metaphysical?
How is this any different? Somebody has a hit song or wins an Oscar and suddenly they're an authority on the banking crisis?
Look, folks, Matt Damon and Chuck Heston *pours a 40 on the ground* are/were guys who were fucking great at their jobs. No more. Arch's servants or Genius' special education teachers might be great at their jobs, too. I don't think that any them deserve a bigger voice than anyone else because of it.
Pax Britannia
01-27-2009, 09:06 PM
And I should be ashamed?
If I ever have a son, God have mercy on him. Because he's gonna be called Pius or Pancratius.
Plato?
Archangel
01-27-2009, 09:08 PM
Plato?
Not a saint's name. Paris used to be an option, but then that hotel cunt fucked that one up.
Pax Britannia
01-27-2009, 09:09 PM
Not a saint's name. Paris used to be an option, but then that hotel cunt fucked that one up.
I was gonna say Patroclus. But we all know what effect that might have.
WET HOT MESS
01-27-2009, 09:12 PM
I thought I had read Pancreas. I'm sure Germany has a law where they don't allow you to name your kids weird shit to avoid embarrassment.
Archangel
01-27-2009, 09:19 PM
And Arch, I'm surprised at you. The elitist's elitist defending the wholly unqualified? Haven't you said, roughly 150 times, that you have the decency not to put forth an opinion about issues in physics? And that you expect that same courtesy from people who do not study the metaphysical?
Good point. But the difference is, I'm not stupid, so I know when to keep my mouth shut. I usually stay out of discussions on matters of which I know little. However, if they want to demonstrate to the world how little they know about the issue at hand, more power to them; to me, they taint positions I could subscribe to with their idiocy. By opening their mouths to similarly ignorant tabloid reporters, they will make themselves subject to arse-rapings from more qualified people. But to demand they be silenced? A bit much, methinks.
There's a difference between that and Matt Damon getting up in a senator's or minister's face, and telling him what to do and think. Or writing a book about how some politics he happens to disagree with are the scourge of the fucking world.
Archangel
01-27-2009, 09:21 PM
I thought I had read Pancreas. I'm sure Germany has a law where they don't allow you to name your kids weird shit to avoid embarrassment.
We do; but seeing as how both the missus and I are Catholic, they'd be hard pressed to come up with arguments about why I cannot name my son after a recognised Catholic saint, which is still one of the top naming criteria for Catholics...
nuclearjew
01-27-2009, 09:22 PM
I'm sorry, this is funny.
C6urw_PWHYk
Archangel
01-27-2009, 09:27 PM
I also happen think that pretty much everything he says in the vid Jew posted does actually make some sense; he might not sound like Anderson Cooper saying it, put the points were all rather legitimate.
Phil Theehor
01-27-2009, 09:27 PM
Good point. But the difference is, I'm not stupid, so I know when to keep my mouth shut. I usually stay out of discussions on matters of which I know little. However, if they want to demonstrate to the world how little they know about the issue at hand, more power to them; to me, they taint positions I could subscribe to with their idiocy. By opening their mouths to similarly ignorant tabloid reporters, they will make themselves subject to arse-rapings from more qualified people. But to demand they be silenced? A bit much, methinks.
There's a difference between that and Matt Damon getting up in a senator's or minister's face, and telling him what to do and think. Or writing a book about how some politics he happens to disagree with are the scourge of the fucking world.
Silencing is a bit strong. I think that you would infer from our exchanges that I wouldn't want anyone silenced. If you want to (and have the wherewithal to) do something that doesn't have a direct, material negative effect on someone else, then I won't stop you.
I should amend my position to read "I wish celebrities would freely choose to STFU about politics”.
Archangel
01-27-2009, 09:31 PM
Silencing is a bit strong. I think that you would infer from our exchanges that I wouldn't want anyone silenced. If you want to (and have the wherewithal to) do something that doesn't have a direct, material negative effect on someone else, then I won't stop you.
I should amend my position to read "I wish celebrities would freely choose to STFU about politics”.
As I said, if someone's dumb enough to assume certain political stances because some Hollywood actor or Top 40 singer endorses them, then they probably have no business getting involved in politics, anyway; but that's democracy for ya. If dumb people are to be allowed to vote, famous dumb people have to be allowed to voice their opinions when interviewed.
Tabloid junkies want to know everything from a given celeb's shoe size to the name of their first date in high school, and emulate everything from their accents to their hair styles - so why not their political stances, as well? None of this is gonna change anything, so why does it matter?
Archetype
01-27-2009, 09:51 PM
Silencing is a bit strong. I think that you would infer from our exchanges that I wouldn't want anyone silenced. If you want to (and have the wherewithal to) do something that doesn't have a direct, material negative effect on someone else, then I won't stop you.
I should amend my position to read "I wish celebrities would freely choose to STFU about politics”.
What's the cut-off for celebrity, though? What about fiction authors and artists? Exactly what says their qualified to talk, write, paint, direct, concerning politics?
nuclearjew
01-27-2009, 09:52 PM
If their interview airs on a channel than has less than three digits, then they should not be heard.
Archangel
01-27-2009, 09:53 PM
So is CNN interviewing, say, Tom Clancy cool?
Phil Theehor
01-27-2009, 09:58 PM
What's the cut-off for celebrity, though? What about fiction authors and artists? Exactly what says their qualified to talk, write, paint, direct, concerning politics?
Now that is a great question. Drawing the line is tough. I think everyone would tell Paris Hilton to shut up about, well, anything, but nobody ever yelled STFU (or, "Put the brush down") when Picasso painted Guernica.
I'm not sure where someone crosses the line.
Das Kahlua
01-27-2009, 10:07 PM
Yeah, because political discourse on GMF is only conducted by Senate staffers, poli-sci teachers and career FSOs...
Also, what Genius said. It's funny how the most vocal guys of PnC are telling somebody that he isn't allowed to make his opinion known.
You do realize that James Bond isn't a real life person, right? Therefore, it's not 'political discourse' to talk shit on him.
Any trash talking on James Bond should be in the 'Media Discussion' thread, and anyone talking about how big of a self-absorbed, pretentious cunt Matt Damon is should take place in the 'Most Obvious News of the Day' thread.
Common Mod, start Mod-ing.
taters
01-27-2009, 10:56 PM
This thread would be more aptly titled "Why does James Bond NOT suck and why shouldnt I want him in my asshole"
Das Kahlua
01-27-2009, 11:20 PM
This thread would be more aptly titled "Why does James Bond NOT suck and why shouldnt I want him in my asshole"
Fuck you, taters. Go back to jacking off to reruns of Shaft, as your only positive Hollywood experience.
(Feel free to ignore the multiple episodes of COPS when you and your cousins appear.)
heelsguy
01-28-2009, 07:11 AM
i think b/c of the numbers, each baldwin is only permitted one good (decent?) movie. if you put all the films together, it would be a pretty good career resume. as it stands, their names precede them, along w/ all the bombs they've made over the years.
glengarry, backdraft, and october definitely stand out
wrong:
Alec: The Hunt for Red October, Malice, Glengarry Glen ross, The Cooler, The Departed, Working Girl, Beetlejuice and many great character roles
everyone else....I got nothing
fuldstændigamok
01-28-2009, 08:31 AM
everyone else....I got nothing
Not even usual suspects?..
nuclearjew
01-28-2009, 08:44 AM
Don't forget Fled!
redsox39
01-28-2009, 08:46 AM
I really learned a lot about people in here in the last 24 hours.
A Poll about Matt Damon, and the ass pirates who love him, will get a lot of posts.
nuclearjew
01-28-2009, 08:54 AM
I really learned a lot about people in here in the last 24 hours.
A Poll about Matt Damon, and the ass pirates who love him, will get a lot of posts.
You're just jealous because Matt Damon is so goddamn pretty.
http://images.askmen.com/galleries/model/matt-damon/pictures/matt-damon-picture-1.jpg
There's your future Captain America right there.
fuldstændigamok
01-28-2009, 09:12 AM
I really learned a lot about people in here in the last 24 hours.
A Poll about Matt Damon, and the ass pirates who love him, will get a lot of posts.
All I learned is...nothing more than what we see everyday in the P&C section, the rep assholes voted for one thing and the lib'ral pussies for the exact opposite.
nuclearjew
01-28-2009, 09:13 AM
Life is awesome when you're predictable!
}{arlequin
01-28-2009, 09:17 AM
I'd vote for Clancy if he ran for office. His interviews mesmerize me
Insomniac
01-28-2009, 10:14 AM
I'm totally cool with George Will talking about the Cubs. I wouldn't expect anyone in management to take his advice because he's a conservative columnist, but if he's a well-known person who can express himself well, why shouldn't his opinion be heard?
Here's a good question about people who bitch about Hollywood celebrities: what qualifications does the average radio host have? Hell, what qualifications do Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, or Keith Olbermann have? Chris Matthews, for example, actually worked in politics. Most of the other guys get legitimacy from "covering" the news, which is basically reading and digesting other people's stuff, and shitting it out for other people.
Should a famous person's opinion have more weight by sole virtue that they're famous? Obviously not, but we kind of do that already, and if so, it's our fault for giving a shit, not theirs for trying to use their influence for causes they care about.
It would be nice if more actors were like Paul Newman, though.
And Damon has always seemed like a decently smart guy, but Bill Kristol will push his shit in if they get to talking.
vasili denisov
01-28-2009, 10:46 AM
If you're gonna rag on people for ragging on James Bond, you should rag on Pierce Brosnan who pretty much mocked the role by playing a glamorous playboy spy who was a callous, imperialist, mysoginist in The Tailor of Panama, a movie far more anti-American than anything Matt Damon's ever said or done.
And I'm not sure why Damon's feelings come as a surprise. He has a shout-out to Howard Zinn, probably one of the more radical left-wing figures out there in Good Will Hunting. There's a scene in the movie which in effect is a screed against the NSA and why Hunting would never work there. Damon can point to that, the movie's financial success, and ask, if my politics didn't bother you then, why are they bothering you now?
As for calling Kristol an idiot, I'm fairly sure people in the McCain camp were using that label, or worse, after they trusted his bona fides that Sarah Palin was an intelligent and articulate politician as well as a quick learner, who would make an excellent pick for Vice President.
That someone would be incited to fist clenching anger after they found out that Bill Murray was an ardent supporter of Ralph Nader, or John Malkovich is a pro-Reagan, pro-death penalty libertarian atheist, is ludicrous. The only issue would be if their politics caused their work to be transformed into shrill polemics, and it never has.
Phil Theehor
01-28-2009, 10:54 AM
Here's a good question about people who bitch about Hollywood celebrities: what qualifications does the average radio host have? Hell, what qualifications do Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, or Keith Olbermann have? Chris Matthews, for example, actually worked in politics. Most of the other guys get legitimacy from "covering" the news, which is basically reading and digesting other people's stuff, and shitting it out for other people.
That's a very fair point and a good question. My only answer is that covering the news is their full-time job. And jobs covering the news for a major outlet are ridiculously difficult to get. Competition ensures that the person in that seat will be one of the best at doing what they do.
Despite their opposite (and, at times, extreme) slants, both Olbermann and O'Reilly are great at what it was they were hired to do. Insomniac picked the examples quite well.
Archangel
01-28-2009, 11:20 AM
It would be nice if more actors were like Paul Newman, though.
Dead?
WET HOT MESS
01-28-2009, 12:03 PM
tactful
}{arlequin
01-28-2009, 12:05 PM
Offering salad dressing
heelsguy
01-28-2009, 12:34 PM
Not even usual suspects?..
stephen? ha. and such an over-rated movie.
next you will point out "sliver" and " fair game" for william baldwin
Draven X 23
01-28-2009, 01:21 PM
http://www.panicmanual.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/damon_team_america.jpg
Everytime I see this thread now I think of this
(if it doesn't work http://www.panicmanual.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/damon_team_america.jpg)
Edit: I look back and see others had the same thought
Archetype
01-28-2009, 06:52 PM
That's a very fair point and a good question. My only answer is that covering the news is their full-time job. And jobs covering the news for a major outlet are ridiculously difficult to get. Competition ensures that the person in that seat will be one of the best at doing what they do.
The best at what they do doesn't necessarily mean most informed, most intelligent, or most genuine, it means whatever gets them ratings. News stations are full of swine.
stephen? ha. and such an over-rated movie.
next you will point out "sliver" and " fair game" for william baldwin
Biodome you son of a bitch.
}{arlequin
01-28-2009, 07:00 PM
Working Girl,
lulz. you consider this a good movie??
Phil Theehor
01-28-2009, 07:34 PM
The best at what they do doesn't necessarily mean most informed, most intelligent, or most genuine, it means whatever gets them ratings. News stations are full of swine.
That's fair. But it does still mean that they do this for a living and they beat out a lot of other people to get there. It means that they follow this stuff full-time and will know (perhaps not spout, but know) every side of an issue.
And I'm not saying that Damon (or every entertainer) is retarded or uninformed. Damon's not an idiot. The point of my rant is that he doesn't live in the same world you do and shouldn't have more influence.
Biodome you son of a bitch.
It has to be mentioned that Stephen was responsible for one of the most reprehensible grave-robbing, no, corpse-raping crimes in movie history, Slap Shot II. I would imagine you Canucks were thrice as enraged as I to see the utter befouling of such a treasure. Might as well give a horse with diarrhea the chance to do a fecal Jackson Pollock on top of the Mona Lisa.
Archetype
01-28-2009, 07:47 PM
I think they did that. It was called "Horse-Broken."
IdiotBrain
01-28-2009, 07:53 PM
biodome = the only movie in which i didn't want to strangle paulie shore.
I have no idea why.
taters
01-28-2009, 09:13 PM
Fuck you, taters. Go back to jacking off to reruns of Shaft, as your only positive Hollywood experience.
(Feel free to ignore the multiple episodes of COPS when you and your cousins appear.)
Better shaft that ghey white porn, you fucking diddler.
Jericho
01-28-2009, 09:16 PM
biodome = the only movie in which i didn't want to strangle paulie shore.
I have no idea why.
I never understood the love for this movie. I fucking hated it. Encino Man and Son In Law ftw