Is this ugly?

[BIG PIZZLE]

I think this is an ugly eyesore. Arch wants to stuff it up his ass. What do you think?

http://www.arclife.de/sixcms/media.php/1848/dom.jpg

[Pax Britannia]

I love Gothic Architecture.

[Kerjack]

beautifully evil.

[ElemenoP]

This reminds me of the church, La Familia Sagrada when I was in Barcelona. And I didn't think it was really pretty.

http://vs007.k12.sd.us/famsagrada.jpg

[Kerjack]

I think Ariel and King Trident live there.

[Archetype]

I think Ariel and King Trident live there.
I would've said Zoidberg.

[Trident]

Do I hear my former name?

However, an Arab Canadian/American would know fuck all about stunning architecture.

<3

[Datači]

This reminds me of the church, La Familia Sagrada when I was in Barcelona. And I didn't think it was really pretty.


It's really awful

[ElemenoP]

I'm not sure because when I paid 15euros to go inside - I wasn't allowed to go anywhere but the marked parititions.

[ShitBreak]

That thing looks incredibly erie, and awe-inspiring. I fucking love it.

[Pax Britannia]

Do I hear my former name?

However, an Arab Canadian/American would know fuck all about stunning architecture.

<3

He can build you a kickass tent though.

[Archetype]

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u50/jjmckool/p123821-Barcelona-La_Sagrada_Famili.jpg

Jesus.

[Pax Britannia]

That looks like something out of 'Aliens'.

[Datači]

I'm not sure because when I paid 15euros to go inside - I wasn't allowed to go anywhere but the marked parititions.

Good marketing. How to make a huge, ugly building with no historical value a sight to see? Charge the entrance to foreigners.

[ElemenoP]

It's really awful
I agree. It's really ugly. Just like Barcelona. I hated Barcelona. More like.. BARF-elona.

But in all seriousness. The church was just awful. Too busy to really look at. I just couldn't appreciate it. Actually. All of Gaudi's work.

[WET HOT MESS]

This reminds me of the church, La Familia Sagrada when I was in Barcelona. And I didn't think it was really pretty.

http://vs007.k12.sd.us/famsagrada.jpg
That thing would probably look better as a sketch than a real structure.

[Archangel]

Gaudì's an acquired taste, for certain.


But this...

http://www.weihnachtsmarkt-deutschland.de/bilder/weihnachtsmarkt-koeln-roncalliplatz.gif

http://www.yucolo.com/images/heritage/29_koeln_a.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Koelner_Dom_bei_Nacht_1_RB.JPG/800px-Koelner_Dom_bei_Nacht_1_RB.JPG

[BIG PIZZLE]

You guys have horrible taste.

[Kerjack]

No matter how they try to light it it still looks evil.

[WET HOT MESS]

I think this is an ugly eyesore. Arch wants to stuff it up his ass. What do you think?

http://www.arclife.de/sixcms/media.php/1848/dom.jpgI like it. I love the motif echoing throughout. I love even more the timelessness of it while being surrounded by modern structures. There's a surreal quality to it.

[ShitBreak]

Seriously. That thing is fap worthy.

This thread's name should be changed to "Pizz doesn't like big black pointy things"

[BIG PIZZLE]

Garbage dumpsters have surreal quality, it doesnt make them beautiful.

[Trident]

Imagine it being the biggest structure for miles around, all new stone - gleaming in the sunlight. Pilgrims who would have travelled for hundreds of miles to see the relics held inside would have been emotionally blown away.

[Limp]

You guys have horrible taste.
Translation:
THINK LIKE ME OR YOU'RE STUPID!!!1111one

[WET HOT MESS]

Garbage dumpsters have surreal quality, it doesnt make them beautiful.
There's nothing surreal about that. That's just crap piled on top of crap.

[Archangel]

I walk past that thing at least once a week, and I still find it gob-smackingly awesome. Size plays a part, obviously (~480 ft long, ~520ft tall, ~280ft wide), but the closer you get, you realise the detailed intricacy of it all, that even the smallest of its thousands of spires is topped with a masterpiece sculpture...

I love that big fucking thing.

[ElemenoP]

This is the inside of the church that I paid 15 euros for.
http://i41.tinypic.com/j9wqh4.jpghttp://i43.tinypic.com/29l0lfc.jpg

[Archangel]

As we like to sing around here (hey, Carnival starts in 8 days):

Mer losse d´r Dom en Kölle, denn do jehööt hä hin.
Wat sull di dann woanders, dat hätt doch keine Senn.
Mer losse d´r Dom in Kölle, denn do es hä ze huss.
Un op singem ahle Platz, bliev hä och joot en Schuss,
un op singem ahle Platz, bliev hä och joot en Schuss.

[WET HOT MESS]

This is the inside of the church that I paid 15 euros for.
http://i41.tinypic.com/j9wqh4.jpghttp://i43.tinypic.com/29l0lfc.jpg
Why would you visit something that's not finished yet?

[BIG PIZZLE]

I walk past that thing at least once a week, and I still find it gob-smackingly awesome. Size plays a part, obviously (~480 ft long, ~520ft tall, ~280ft wide), but the closer you get, you realise the detailed intricacy of it all, that even the smallest of its thousands of spires is topped with a masterpiece sculpture...

I love that big fucking thing.

I guess if you throw turds at swine, they're content.

[ElemenoP]

Hmmmm... Because they didn't tell us that at the gate. I assumed that just the outside was being finished. But I was wrong.

[Archangel]

This is the inside of the church that I paid 15 euros for.

I hate it when they make you pay to enter a church.

I mean, what if I just wanted to pray?

It's funny, though, when tourists get kicked out of the Cathedral because they didn't realise that the Holy fucking Mass was on.

[Le Goat]

I love Gothic Architecture.

[BIG PIZZLE]

Cue the swine.

[Trident]

Also, remember the engineering brilliance that went in to this. No CAD, no laser sights, no mechanical cranes, no simulations - just a desire to create something of sheer magnificence.

[WET HOT MESS]

I guess if you throw turds at swine, they're content.
I like pretty buildings. I've seen some beautiful mosques and temples. There's something aesthetic about them.

[Archangel]

Some absolutely brilliant pics from the air (http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/deutschland/7435-cologne-cathedral.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/deutschland/7573.htm&usg=__OTrEQpj1ulptRV-9jmHYeMdINNc=&h=550&w=800&sz=132&hl=de&start=8&um=1&tbnid=XtSf2R3jDiDTzM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcologne%2Bcathedral%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dd e%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN).

[Limp]

I love that big fucking thing.
That's what you wife say's to me all the time.

[Archangel]

It's a bloody monster, all right.

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/deutschland/7432-dom.jpg

[ElemenoP]

http://i40.tinypic.com/flke29.jpghttp://i41.tinypic.com/34i0poj.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/4qh9wy.jpg

But I have to admit. There's some pretty nice parts inside, though. Only if you look up.

[Trident]

I hate it when they make you pay to enter a church.

I mean, what if I just wanted to pray?

It's funny, though, when tourists get kicked out of the Cathedral because they didn't realise that the Holy fucking Mass was on.

I hate having to pay to visit Westminster Abbey or St Pauls, but it's worth it.

Hmmmm... Because they didn't tell us that at the gate. I assumed that just the outside was being finished. But I was wrong.

What exactly were you expecting? A Disney experience inside? Did you not research your visit beforehand? You have to view the buildings not just from the 2009 perspective, but its function and meaning.

[Le Goat]

That's what you wife say's to me all the time.
any/every thing is bigger than a raisin

[The Dude]

Also, remember the engineering brilliance that went in to this. No CAD, no laser sights, no mechanical cranes, no simulations - just a desire to create something of sheer magnificence.
that's one of the things i really enjoy about travelling outside of the US, the old buildings and structures.

The oldest stuff here is 1500's at the absolute earliest, and that's just a fort in florida, for the most part, stuff is 1700 or later.

I just marvel at the magnitude and intricacy involved in some of the places I've been outside of the US

[Archetype]

http://i40.tinypic.com/flke29.jpghttp://i41.tinypic.com/34i0poj.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/4qh9wy.jpg

But I have to admit. There's some pretty nice parts inside, though. Only if you look up.

That still looks ugly to me.

[ElemenoP]

What exactly were you expecting? A Disney experience inside? Did you not research your visit beforehand? You have to view the buildings not just from the 2009 perspective, but its function and meaning.
I did absolutely NO research before my trip. I bought a plane ticket. Packed my backpack and went for 2 months.

[Datači]

The neo-gothic church in my city is beautiful

http://i43.tinypic.com/2nge7au.jpg

[WET HOT MESS]

http://i40.tinypic.com/flke29.jpghttp://i41.tinypic.com/34i0poj.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/4qh9wy.jpg

But I have to admit. There's some pretty nice parts inside, though. Only if you look up.I don't really like the modernized touch to it. It takes away some qualities that would normally leave you in awe. It feels like looking at a modern art museum. There's something not quite glorious or breath taking about it.

[The Dude]

this isthe ugliest church I've been to (ugly both inside and out):

http://www.olacathedral.org/

[ElemenoP]

Sig, Arch and }{arlequin were pretty much was my only guide to Europe since he's been there before.

[Kerjack]

I don't really like the modernized touch to it. It takes away some qualities that would normally leave you in awe. It feels like looking at a modern art museum. There's something not quite glorious or breath taking about it.


Part of me wonders how much is foam.

[BIG PIZZLE]

I like pretty buildings. I've seen some beautiful mosques and temples. There's something aesthetic about them.

You see, gothic architecture was never intended to be beautiful. That's not what they were going for. By calling it pretty or beautiful you are actually doing it a disservice and revealing your true ignorance. See: Arch.

[Le Goat]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/chknfaqr/1211425820407.jpg

[NOTKyle]

It's beautiful. The pictures of it make it seem like a shitty Disney Land attraction, due to the 80s era trash surrounding it.

[Limp]

BAHAHHAHAHAHAHa

[Trident]

I don't really like the modernized touch to it. It takes away some qualities that would normally leave you in awe. It feels like looking at a modern art museum. There's something not quite glorious or breath taking about it.

One problem we have is that we expect new churches or renovations to be in a style that is 'historical', I think it's a brave move to try and update the style; a style which in years to come will be loved (probably). We seem so scared of making our mark on the architectural landscape, instead deferring to older styles or making buildings with a 100-150 lifespan.

[Stax]

I love Gothic Architecture.

[WET HOT MESS]

Sig pretty much was my only guide to Europe since he's been there before.
Instead of Barcelona, you should've considered Alhambra.

[NOTKyle]

You see, gothic architecture was never intended to be beautiful. That's not what they were going for. By calling it pretty or beautiful you are actually doing it a disservice and revealing your true ignorance. See: Arch.

Beautiful is a pretty subjective word. Yes, it wasn't meant to be classically beautiful, but it has beauty ingrained in it.

Similar to Arch's tiny penis above.

[ElemenoP]

I don't really like the modernized touch to it. It takes away some qualities that would normally leave you in awe. It feels like looking at a modern art museum. There's something not quite glorious or breath taking about it.
Neither do I. I guess Gaudi died before he could finish it... so then I guess other people took over. It was nice to see it. But I didn't really appreciate it as much as others would.

[Archangel]

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/deutschland/k%F6ln-dom-luftbild.jpg

The ridiculous thing is that St Andreas (on the left, below the watermark) is a full-sized church in its own right.

[Pax Britannia]

Neo-Classical Architecture is my favourite. Gothic comes a close second.

[ElemenoP]

Instead of Barcelona, you should've considered Alhambra.
Yah. I would've gone anywhere but Barcelona.

[Trident]

You see, gothic architecture was never intended to be beautiful. That's not what they were going for. By calling it pretty or beautiful you are actually doing it a disservice and revealing your true ignorance. See: Arch.

Beauty doesn't have to be basic aesthetics. These were designed to be symbols of the might of the Church, and of course there is deep meaning in most of what you see.

[BIG PIZZLE]

Spoken like the mother of an ugly child.

[ElemenoP]

Next time I'm in Europe... I'm hitting Germany for Oktoberfest. Hopefully. Arch will be there too!

[BIG PIZZLE]

You should hit the Oktoberfest in my pants. It has plenty of sausage.

[Trident]

Spoken like the mother of an ugly child.

No you are.

[WET HOT MESS]

One problem we have is that we expect new churches or renovations to be in a style that is 'historical', I think it's a brave move to try and update the style; a style which in years to come will be loved (probably). We seem so scared of making our mark on the architectural landscape, instead deferring to older styles or making buildings with a 100-150 lifespan.I'm not saying giving structures a modern twist is a bad thing, I think a few buildings are just too overdone because they mix influence in an ugly way. Like an ugly mutt.

[Archangel]

Beauty doesn't have to be basic aesthetics. These were designed to be symbols of the might of the Church, and of course there is deep meaning in most of what you see.

Pretty much. They didn't go for "pretty", they went for "bloody awesome".

[Trident]

Next time I'm in Europe... I'm hitting Germany for Oktoberfest. Hopefully. Arch will be there too!

An Asian girl at Oktoberfest: half a European beer and you'll be running topless through the Hippodrom.

[Pax Britannia]

An Asian girl at Oktoberfest: half a European beer and you'll be running topless through the Hippodrom.

Thats the plan....

[ElemenoP]

I have faith that Arch wouldn't let that happen.

[Archangel]

A cathedral was built for one primary purpose, to symbolise the faith of an entire city, if not country.

Every theological treatise, every interpretation of faith, every exegesis had to culminate in one monument to faith itself. It's built theology, crystallised worship.

God isn't pretty, either.

[WET HOT MESS]

Arch, you're gunna need like 50 cameras for this.

[Trident]

Thats the plan....

...why do I imagine Claydon is at this moment trying to convince his wife to travel to Germany in September?

[Archangel]

I have faith that Arch wouldn't let that happen.

Yeah, 'cause I hate tits.


And beer.

;)

Anyway, I'm off. Football time.

[Le Goat]

arch is rapist

[Das Kahlua]

This famous cathedral in Prague still freaks me out.

http://lloydi.com/travel-writing/prague/2006/day2.html

[Datači]

I'm going to Prague in a couple of months. I wanna see the cathedral, and this (http://images.google.com/images?client=opera&rls=en&q=dancing%20house&sourceid=opera&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=hr&tab=wi)

[WET HOT MESS]

I wish I lived in Europe.

[ShitBreak]

We went from talking about that awesome building, to El naked.

I'm wet.

[Trident]

I wish I lived in Europe.

I'm in the middle of decorating my spare room... come and stay; I'll supply the Rohypnol. [/claydon]

[WET HOT MESS]

...

[Trident]

We went from talking about that awesome building, to El naked.

I'm wet.

Wet from walking to the fridge, fatty.

<3

[ElemenoP]

We went from talking about that awesome building, to El naked.

I'm wet.
We are?

[hatepoppy]

I like it. I love the motif echoing throughout. I love even more the timelessness of it while being surrounded by modern structures. There's a surreal quality to it.
juxtapwn3d?

[WET HOT MESS]

Juxtaposition was my favorite word. It got replaced by discombobulated.

[hatepoppy]

until there is an option for 'neither - i recognize its brilliance while remaining flaccid about its aesthetics', i'll abstain.

[Archetype]

We are?

You should know if you're wet.

[ElemenoP]

I'm not.

[ElemenoP]

I'm dry like the desert.

[Archetype]

Just the way I like it.

[TylerDurden]

I wish I lived in Europe.

i concur. unfortunately the only things we have to show for ourselves is talladega and osumike. it's no wonder tourists hate this place: rednecks and fatasses.

i'm not sure i'd actually want to live in europe, but i'd like to take on the backpacking adventure that seems to be a rite of passage for anyone with a clue.

We went from talking about that awesome building, to El naked.

I'm wet.

go dry your fat-inverted penis off with a towel, and never say that shit again.

[BIG PIZZLE]

Europe is old, dirty and cramped.

[Jericho]

I think it looks pretty cool

[Trident]

Europe is old, dirty and cramped.

I think you're confusing that with your homeland.

And yes, I do mean Canada.

[Archangel]

Can I say Lance'd now, or what?

[}{arlequin]

listening to north americans talk about architectural culture is akin to having mexicans discuss hockey

[Lone Wolf]

That thing is pretty sweet. What's wrong with you lately Pizzle?

[Archangel]

listening to north americans talk about architectural culture is akin to having mexicans discuss hockey
Muslims discussing fine wine?

Jews discussing bbq ribs?

Women discussing Porsches?

[redsox39]

listening to north americans talk about architectural culture is akin to having mexicans discuss hockey

oh yeah have you seen...

ok, good point.

[Trident]

Muslims discussing fine wine?

Jews discussing bbq ribs?

Women discussing Porsches?

Claydon discussing women?

[}{arlequin]

osu discussing women?

edit: fuck trident!

[Trident]

79% of men on here discussing (real) women?

[Archangel]

oh yeah have you seen...

ok, good point.

Oh please. Guys like Gehry, Jahn, van der Rohe and many others did some brilliant works in the States.

[UNC]

I can appreciate art.

I can't do art.

[Hoser]

I think you're confusing that with your homeland.

And yes, I do mean Canada.

umm....