Terminator:The Sarah Connor Chronicles

[MDiver01]

Boy would I do Lena Headey!

[ShitBreak]

Damn solid first episode.

[comicfan]

I am really looking forward to this season. Last season ended on a high note and based on the first episode this season, I think we will be seeing some great things from the show!

[Fiend1138]

not too shabby...

[ShitBreak]

Manson > Robert Patrick?

[BHM]

Manson = Robert Patrick? Wouldn't that be a mindfuck?

[Will-Kill]

Johns going crazy.

[ShitBreak]

Well it seems they have John slowly but surely start to "get it"...He's still young and is trying to have a life and show compassion...but is starting to realize that he has a job to do, and that is to stay alive by all means necessary.

[MDiver01]

I love the show but damn the acting sucks on here. Brian Austin Green needs to show them how its done.

[Fiend1138]

I love the show but damn the acting sucks on here. Brian Austin Green needs to show them how its done.

wow... read that sentence out loud and try not to laugh... go on, try it... i dare you...

[MDiver01]

man you should have seen me trying to type it.

[Warden]

I love this new John Conner. He is FINALLY acting like John fucking Conner! A hard assed, no non-sense mother fucker that takes no shit from no body! He does what he wants and fuck the results.

About fucking time. Last season, he was such a fucking pussy. About time he turned it around.

[MDiver01]

no kidding but it seems like from the previews of the season(like I said previews so I cant really tell) that he goes back to that whiney baby.

[Warden]

Take a lesson from Lost. You can not trust previews.

This may become one of the best shows on TV if they keep up the awesome.

[Fiend1138]

Well keep in mind... he is only 16.

[svtdriver]

I felt kind of disappointed by the season premiere. I dunno. Something about it just didn't have the same feel as last season. But I agree with comicfan. It looks very promising.

The readhead T-X at the end of the episode was crazy, though. It's going to be interesting watching her destroy people's hopes and dreams.

[ShitBreak]

"The Readhead T-X"

Does it make me that old to know who Shirley Manson is?

Oh, and she isn't a T-X....she's a T-1000.

[Face]

we don't know what the fuck she is yet, she coud be a T-fuckyourmother for all we know

[ShitBreak]

we don't know what the fuck she is yet, she coud be a T-fuckyourmother for all we know

True...but she showed the exact same signs as a T-1000. Melting down into an inanimate object, then using her appendage as a blade. I mean, they didn't have her say and act just like Robert Patrick there at the end just because...

Although you are stll correct. We don't, and probably won't ever know. Same with Cameron.

[fuldstændigamok]

"The Readhead T-X"

Does it make me that old to know who Shirley Manson is?



No, no it doesn't. She's acting as bad as she was singing, though. This season isn't starting THAT bad, I have to say. This was one of the surprise "OMG this is actually pretty good" show of last season for me and I'm expecting a lot from it this year. Before watching the new ep, I rewatched last season finale 2 scenes, which impressed me when I first saw them, the Johnny Cash/swimming pool scene is still as awesome as ever (even though I still don't understand why he lets the cop get away with it, he's a fucking terminator for god sake, let alone the fact that he didn't kill him on the first place, but to actually make them meet again and him being all philosophical AGAIN is pure nonsense for me. THAT DOES SUCK!). Other than that, I hope that the kid will be the bad mofo that he needs to be from now on, whinny john was a tad annoying. And Summer is still as sexy as they come.

[MDiver01]

Am I the only one who thinks there are just too many terminators floating around?

[Fiend1138]

Am I the only one who thinks there are just too many terminators floating around?

I like that fact. I always thought it was dumb that Skynet would only send one back at a time. If you have the mean to time travel why not send back a whole fuckin' army. Stupid machines...

[STDSkillz]

Just saw the season premier, and it far exceeded my expectations. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season. And c'mon, be honest, who doesn't want a cyborg sex slave from the future?

[MDiver01]

I like that fact. I always thought it was dumb that Skynet would only send one back at a time. If you have the mean to time travel why not send back a whole fuckin' army. Stupid machines...




Well wasnt it because John destroyed the device after he sent them through?

[Fiend1138]

Well wasnt it because John destroyed the device after he sent them through?

i'm not sure if he did or not...

even still if you can build a device using 1960's parts (Episode 1) i'm pretty sure they could easily build another.

also, you don't know how many time they used it before/if John destroyed it.

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

THIS IS A FUCKING TRAVESTY

ROBERT PATRICK WILL KILL US ALL

ssoN1WIy_rQ

[The Batman]

i'm not sure if he did or not...

even still if you can build a device using 1960's parts (Episode 1) i'm pretty sure they could easily build another.

also, you don't know how many time they used it before/if John destroyed it.

He did. In the movies they referred to it being destroyed and in the TV show.

[RedBEARD]

Taking a piss in a urinal that turns into a kinda' freaky-hot Irish chick, it's where it's at.

[MDiver01]

talk about golden shower.

[MDiver01]

So do you think John meets Kate this episode?


edit: nvm I just read that it is some chick named Riley who he becomes friends with.


http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/909/909843/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-20080912021955306.jpg (http://media.tv.ign.com/media/850/850896/imgs_1.html)

[MDiver01]

well I would do Riley thats for sure. Did anyone catch what was written on the wall? or who wrote it for that matter?

[BHM]

The guy who came back from the future and died wrote it I imagine, but what it means I have no idea.

[Warden]

1. Names were on the wall, along with a place and a date.

2. Anyone else think they were laying it on a bit thick making Cameron suspect of betraying John later this season?

3. Things are looking up for the show.

4. Riley can not be trusted. Only screwed.

*edit and spoiler*

5. Shit. The Machines just fucked that Nuke plant for the resistance

[MDiver01]

I'm guessing the names come in on a later time or did anybody see any names they recognise?

2 I think they might be doing that on purpose to as suspence in wondering when she is going to go rogue.

4 is the best advise.

[Jericho]

I thought I saw Greenway

[Billy]

Can anyone explain to me exactly why they even bother shooting handguns at the robots? It doesn't hurt them in any way and doesn't really even slow them down at all

[Face]

'cause it looks cool?

[RedBEARD]

Can anyone explain to me exactly why they even bother shooting handguns at the robots? It doesn't hurt them in any way and doesn't really even slow them down at allI guess they think they might accidentally ding something vital? Or maybe get a lucky ricochet off a nearby source of explosives?

[MDiver01]

its the morale factor. I would feel a lot better with a gun in my hand then nothing. Shit did I miss it tonight?

[ShitBreak]

That Riley chick has got some awesome rack.

[Face]

That Riley chick has got some awesome rack.
compelled to agree... it was just pouring out of that gown she put on

the pregnant chick at the start nearly made me puke though

*shudder*

[ShitBreak]

compelled to agree... it was just pouring out of that gown she put on

the pregnant chick at the start nearly made me puke though

*shudder*

Yeah that gown was awesome.

And the preggers chick was totally James Franco's GF in "Freaks and Geeks".

[Billy]

its the morale factor. I would feel a lot better with a gun in my hand then nothing. Shit did I miss it tonight?

Um, why not just a taser or stun gun? Either of those would beast the robots instead of just being a minor inconvenience like bullets.

[MDiver01]

I is confused

[Archangel]

I really really really like this show.


Oh, and on the subject of guns, at least Reese knows what's up. I'm pretty sure that a 40mm grenade from that M79 he was toting would damage even a terminator.

[Billy]

I'm just saying...
Stun gun = incapacitated robot
bullets = skin peeled off a little bit

[ShitBreak]

Ummmm...no. Shutup.

You plan on getting within a couple inches of a Terminator so you can use your little stun gun? Go right ahead. I'll stand back 20 feet and use my gun to slow him down just a tad.

[Billy]

And then when he gets to you he just tears you apart anyways. A stun gun or taser would be infinitely better. You're an idiot, but bothering to refer to you as an idiot around here is pretty much just preaching to the choir.

[Archangel]

OSUMike is an idiot?



Nobody ever tells me anything.

[Jericho]

What a dumb argument

[Tar Heel]

toe tall lee.

[Kerjack]

And then when he gets to you he just tears you apart anyways. A stun gun or taser would be infinitely better. You're an idiot, but bothering to refer to you as an idiot around here is pretty much just preaching to the choir.

You've watched to many movies. Maybe if you hit a circuit board it might, but I doubt these death machines are so dumb as to have there outer shell grounded to any. And these are bots from the future, I'm not going to take my chances that circuits are still vulnerable to high voltage by going hand to hand with only a tazer against a death machine.

No no, I might try one as a last resort but I would not toss my gun away over it.

[Jericho]

NEEEEEERDS!

[Archangel]

Go back to playing MGS4, Bear.

[Archangel]

Grenade launchers, anti-materiel rifles, RPGs/LAWs, and such.

[Jericho]

Why you gotta be such a dick lately?

[Archangel]

Because my undying love for you remains, alas, unrequited.



Also, "lately"? When have I NOT been a dick?

[Fiend1138]

Really Big Magnets.

[Billy]

ANYTHING is better than bullets

[MDiver01]

AP rounds?

[STDSkillz]

I thought this episode was rather anticlimactic. I was really hoping for some Terminator on Terminator action (and thought they were building it up as such). I'm excited for next week's episode, though. The preview had me going 'WTF?'

[MDiver01]

who ever the casting director is sure does like boobies.

[Archetype]

God I love this freaking show. I knew it'd redeem itself. Only beef, is that they should've ended the last season with the cops falling in the water with Johnny Cash in the background. Twould've been a great wtf moment.

[Billy]

I'm not sure how much I like the Cameron betrayal storyline they've been pushing the past few eps. Learning a little of her backstory was kinda cool though

[Face]

I can't stand the fucking pregnant chick, I hope cameron goes apeshit and strangles her with the umbilical cord

[Billy]

That would be fucking awesome. Also, more scenes with the awkward interactions that Cameron has with everyone else. Last week's scene with the bird in the fireplace was gold

[Tar Heel]

I really disliked how the robot forgot she was a robot and acted like a human all episode. It was really fucking weak. If the robots had the capability of even mimicing emotion, stress, and happiness, wouldn't they all? I mean... they spent the whole series up til now trying to get her to not act so much like a robot, and then a malfunction makes it think and act like it's a human? Not only that. Every time they show her viewpoint of anything in the show, up til now, there is all this digital display and info like a camera. They spent the entire series trying to show how it is a robot and then shit all over the plotline by makeing the robot have emotions and anterior grade amnesia.

It's almost like they felt sorry for typecasting that chick as a robot and wanted to give her an episode to show that she can act like a person too.

Really gay.

[bpb]

Fox Close To Terminating 'Sarah Connor' (http://www.syfyportal.com/news425418.html)
With ratings far below even the network's worst predictions, Fox could pull the plug on production for "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" as early as this week.

The network has been disappointed by "Sarah Connor's" numbers so far this season, and some executives feel that the show is dragging down numbers for "Prison Break," which airs as a lead-out.

"Audiences just aren't responding to the show," a Fox source tells SyFy Portal. "Our biggest surprise are the 18-to-49s [a key advertising demographic], those numbers are in the toilet."

...........

So what will happen?

"All I can say is that production will likely stop, and I would think that Fox might try to air some of the episodes already in the can," the source said. "But I don't know. They don't want to lose 'Prison Break,' so there could be some schedule shuffling in the future."

Of course, none of this has been confirmed by Fox, so treat this as rumor.

[Billy]

I know more people that watch Terminator SCC than watch Prison Break. I've tried but have never been able to force myself to like that show.

[Archangel]

What the fuck. Prison Break hasn't been relevant since season 2, and now they want to fuck SCC over for that shit? Gayness.

[heelsguy]

Fox Close To Terminating 'Sarah Connor' (http://www.syfyportal.com/news425418.html)



crap. I like this show. apparently, the actor from "john from cincinnati" who plays the bad terminator is the kiss-of-death" for shows

[Archetype]

Who's up for a Fox roast if they can this?

I really disliked how the robot forgot she was a robot and acted like a human all episode. It was really fucking weak. If the robots had the capability of even mimicing emotion, stress, and happiness, wouldn't they all? I mean... they spent the whole series up til now trying to get her to not act so much like a robot, and then a malfunction makes it think and act like it's a human? Not only that. Every time they show her viewpoint of anything in the show, up til now, there is all this digital display and info like a camera. They spent the entire series trying to show how it is a robot and then shit all over the plotline by makeing the robot have emotions and anterior grade amnesia.

It's almost like they felt sorry for typecasting that chick as a robot and wanted to give her an episode to show that she can act like a person too.
Dude, first episode, go rewatch it. They already fucked with that.

[Tar Heel]

I saw the 1st episode and it had nothing to do with the robot acting exactly like a human.

[RedBEARD]

I really disliked how the robot forgot she was a robot and acted like a human all episode. It was really fucking weak. If the robots had the capability of even mimicing emotion, stress, and happiness, wouldn't they all? I mean... they spent the whole series up til now trying to get her to not act so much like a robot, and then a malfunction makes it think and act like it's a human? Not only that. Every time they show her viewpoint of anything in the show, up til now, there is all this digital display and info like a camera. They spent the entire series trying to show how it is a robot and then shit all over the plotline by makeing the robot have emotions and anterior grade amnesia.

It's almost like they felt sorry for typecasting that chick as a robot and wanted to give her an episode to show that she can act like a person too.

Really gay.I actually like the concept of a machine forgetting that it's a machine...Her whole character is just another take on the Frankenstein gimmick anyway, so it makes sense that at some point she'd face an emotional conflict even though she is just nuts & bolts underneath it all.

And it also makes sense that her model would be capable of having this sort of malfunction. Think about it - she was an infiltrator designed to duplicate every aspect of Alison Young that the human resistance managed to capture and modify. Who's to say the modifications were done correctly or that they didn't manage to foul up the conversion?

There's a lot to this show and I hope it doesn't get canned. I've never seen so much as one episode of "Prison Break" and could give two poops about it.

[Billy]

I love how American Idol has been the top rated show in the US for the past 4 years, but this show can't manage to draw enough viewers to stay on the air. It's kind of sad when you think about it...

[Draven X 23]

Blame women... I do.

[Archetype]

I saw the 1st episode and it had nothing to do with the robot acting exactly like a human.
The pilot. Go watch it again.

[Billy]

I think he's referring to when she's in the school when Cameron first meets John.

[Archetype]

He has a name you know. And that name is Felicity Bananahammock.

[MDiver01]

Fox fucking ruins every good show it puts on. Is this based after something or are the writers making this story up?

[Pax Britannia]

I hope they try and show his leadership qualities in this series because i'm tired of seeing John Connor as a depressed teen who's only thought in life seems to be "i didnt ask to be the saviour of man kind".

Since we know that fate governs the Terminator universe and no matter what you do to the timeline things always work out the same way i dont know why they are even bothering to try and take skynet down before its invented.

What they should be doing is what they hinted at in T2 which is stockpiling weapons and supplies out in the desert in preparation for the future war.

[MDiver01]

that would make the most sense but there is really not that many guns that could stop a terminator. What I want to know is where humans in the future get their laser guns. Yeah they could steal them from dead terminators and copy them but its not like they have a lot of the materials and manufactoring shops to build them.

[Archetype]

I hope they try and show his leadership qualities in this series because i'm tired of seeing John Connor as a depressed teen who's only thought in life seems to be "i didnt ask to be the saviour of man kind".

I think the turning point was cutting his hair and whatnot, he seems to be getting more ballsy now. He's still such a pussy though.

[Pax Britannia]

that would make the most sense but there is really not that many guns that could stop a terminator. What I want to know is where humans in the future get their laser guns. Yeah they could steal them from dead terminators and copy them but its not like they have a lot of the materials and manufactoring shops to build them.

Seeing as those laser rifles are often referred to as being made by Westinghouse I assume they were made for the army sometime in the future.

Of course that was probably the thought when the first film was written in the 80's. Now that greedy producers have managed to stretch the timeline way beyond the old Judgement Day and yet keep our same level of development the weapons of the future war are going to have to be developed virtually over night!

I saw a pic of Bale as John Connor in the new film. He was carrying an M-16 if i'm not mistaken. Which would be largely useless against a T-800.

[MDiver01]

M4, just thought I would through that out there. Plus it did have a heli on it.

[MDiver01]

well I just saw this weeks episode and I must say I liked it a lot. I like seeing people that come into play in the future. I also like seeing stuff that happen in the future.

[Uknowiphat]

I think the turning point was cutting his hair and whatnot, he seems to be getting more ballsy now. He's still such a pussy though.

Cutting his hair is nice and all, but he will never start becoming a leader until his mommy stops cleaning up after him. Once Sarah starts letting go alittle bit this show will become more interesting. But since it is called the Sarah Conner Chronicles, I believe she will continue to be a bit overprotective for awhile.

[Face]

IGN is reporting that Terminator is not being cancelled and will make it at least a full 22 episode season, but will be moving to Wednesdays starting in January

yay!

[ShitBreak]

You mean...they got smart, are are moving the show?

[dirtbag]

IGN is reporting that Terminator is not being cancelled and will make it at least a full 22 episode season, but will be moving to Wednesdays starting in January

yay!

This is good news. This show is getting better.

[Billy]

The fight scene this week was awesome. How did she get the twisted body out of the elevator and building though? Also, on a side note, I totally want to fuck Summer Glau

[BHM]

IGN is reporting that Terminator is not being cancelled and will make it at least a full 22 episode season, but will be moving to Wednesdays starting in January

yay!
Well fuck! I stopped watching cause I thought it was dead.

[Archangel]

Smart move there, Johnny boy, disabling the bug before the T-Garbage told the shrink to help it with the AI...

[fuldstændigamok]

Smart move there, Johnny boy, disabling the bug before the T-Garbage told the shrink to help it with the AI...

It was a smart scenaristic move, though. Ellison and Weaver's storyline is potentially very interesting and worth developping. I would be stupid to out her that soon, especially now that the show will go on for at least 16 more eps.
The fight scene was indeed awesome, Glau is perfect for that role and this show is about the best in its category.

[Archangel]

The category being?

Because there really aren't that many time travel/cyborg warfare/mother-son relationship/teen angst/conspiracy-themed shows out there.

[Tar Heel]

Sci-fi?

[Archangel]

So how many other Sci-fi shows are on network TV at the moment?

[Uknowiphat]

I think this show is on the right track. I really want to see what they are going to do for the season finale. I hope it isn't too lame. Someone needs to die and John needs to grow up alittle bit.

[Archangel]

Brilliant insight there, mate. Next, you're gonna tell us that it should be in colour and have sound.

[RedBEARD]

So how many other Sci-fi shows are on network TV at the moment?Heroes and Knight Rider are all that come to mind at the moment.

[Jericho]

Smallville and Supernatural

[CrazyCarl]

Lost (in the winter) and Fringe

[Rover]

Fringe and Law & Order: UFO

[Jericho]

Ghost Whisperer? lulz

[Billy]

Brilliant insight there, mate. Next, you're gonna tell us that it should be in colour and have sound.

I think I'd like it better if it were all in black and white and done w/ only subtitles and orchestral scores, The Birth of a Nation style
So speak for yourself, fuckface

[ShitBreak]

Don't forget one of the most underrated shows last year:

Reaper.

[Jericho]

It's not on the air anymore, dumbass

[Billy]

Edit: I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about

[ShitBreak]

Jericho is officially a dumbass.

[Jericho]

I thought it got canned. Is it coming back at midseason?

[CrazyCarl]

it got picked up for 13 episode 2nd season, according to Wikipedia

[Billy]

Season 2 starts in January, and had better include a scene with a shot of Missy Perigrym's asshole if it wants to keep viewers like me happy

[Jericho]

Well, I stand corrected. My apologies

[ShitBreak]

I thought it got canned. Is it coming back at midseason?

Yes.

[Uknowiphat]

Brilliant insight there, mate. Next, you're gonna tell us that it should be in colour and have sound.


That would work, but it should really have some hot, robot on Connor action. (Not John Connor)

And did you call me "mate"? Really?!?

[Jericho]

He also spells color with a U. Don't be the only one to take Arch seriously. Don't be that guy

[Archangel]

Um, the majority of English speaking people do.


All English speakers on the Subcontinent, for example.

[Jericho]

America, fuck yeah!!

[CrazyCarl]

how many people speak English in Europe?

[Jericho]

how many people speak English in Europe?
This is where Arch tells us that everyone there speaks seven languages

[CrazyCarl]

England has 60M and Australia has 20M...I don't think that tops the number in the U.S.

[Archangel]

As far as pure comprehension and ability to express themselves is concerned, I'd say around 50%. All of Scandinavia, the BeNeLux countries, and most of Germany. Less in Italy and Spain, and very few Frenchmen.

But look at the fact that we have a Croat, a couple of Germans, a Dutchman, a Slovenian, a Spaniard, a Portuguese and a Frenchman on these very boards who all speak passable English (the French bloke is borderline, though), and it should tell you something.

[Archangel]

England has 60M and Australia has 20M...I don't think that tops the number in the U.S.
That's why I said:
All English speakers on the Subcontinent, for example.

If 1/4 of Indians and Pakistanis speak English (which is a safe assumption), it's British English, and has North America beat, population wise.

[Archangel]

This is where Arch tells us that everyone there speaks seven languages

Hell no. I'm pretty exceptional in that regard.

[CrazyCarl]

you also said that a majority of English speaking people do. Now, we could probably differentiate between "English speakers" and "people who can speak English"

[Archangel]

I'm pretty sure that English is taken for granted among middle class Indians.

[Archangel]

And I might be wrong, but I'm a couple of beers in, and feeling facetious.

[RedBEARD]

Where'd the Terminator thread go? And has this show been canned yet? I don't watch FOX all that often, but when I do I never see any promo for it.

[ShitBreak]

No it hasn't been cancelled. In fact, they ordered the full season's episodes last week.

One of the best shows on TV right now. It's been a stellar season. It's just up against a lot of heavy hitting shows. If they moved it to a better timeslot, it would do better.

[Pax Britannia]

So they added the hot asian chick from Battlestar Galactica: Razor. Nice.

[Face]

I really wish more had been done with the second Ellison

[ShitBreak]

This show is too damn awesome. Fuck those people who aren't watching.

Good to see John's little girlfriend back. Her tits are awe-inspiring.

[The Batman]

This show is too damn awesome. Fuck those people who aren't watching.

Good to see John's little girlfriend back. Her tits are awe-inspiring.

It is awesome. It its a nice progression from the movie and the stories have been strong. More people need to give this show a chance.

[Billy]

The fuck? Was it my imagination, or did Cameron not totally snap that bitch's neck a few episodes back?

[Archangel]

She let her live.

[Archangel]

But her cutting down those jerk-offs in the bowling alley was just all kinds of awesome.


"They knew where we live..."

[AJ]

When I was getting the blowjob this afternoon I was thinking about Summer with the fingerless gloves on. It was a short lived blowjob.

[Rover]

But her cutting down those jerk-offs in the bowling alley was just all kinds of awesome.


"They knew where we live..."What I don't understand is Sarah's self-righteousness. She lets that person live at the bowling alley, but has a fit that John lets his girlfriend hang around. Meanwhile, Sarah's security mistake is telling the Terminator everything, and John's "security mistake" is cool enough to fake out the Terminator when he knocks on the door.

I just have trouble reconciling this Sarah Connor with the ones from the movies.

But Cameron killing the people in the bowling alley was awesome. I was hoping that she'd go into the bathroom and finish off the one that Sarah let live.

[The Batman]

Meanwhile, Sarah's security mistake is telling the Terminator everything

What do you mean? Which terminator? Cameron?

[Pax Britannia]

The trouble with this show is it feels like it's constantly building towards something awesome. I know thats an odd thing to say but hear me out.

We all know the apex of the Terminator timeline is the war against the machines. This show is about the period before that war, therefore it's sort of irrelevant. We're all waiting to see the epic war of the machines, I for one feel like i've seen enough time travelling robots killing people in the modern time to last me a life time. As a Terminator fan I alsmost feel as if i've outgrown this show.

I didnt want the third film, or this new trilogy of future war films. I was quite happy to let this story end with Terminator 2. Now however I feel a bit more open to new possibilites in the Terminator franchise. Just as long as they dont involve more time travelling assasinations.

[The Batman]

The trouble with this show is it feels like it's constantly building towards something awesome. I know thats an odd thing to say but hear me out.

We all know the apex of the Terminator timeline is the war against the machines. This show is about the period before that war, therefore it's sort of irrelevant. We're all waiting to see the epic war of the machines, I for one feel like i've seen enough time travelling robots killing people in the modern time to last me a life time. As a Terminator fan I alsmost feel as if i've outgrown this show.

I didnt want the third film, or this new trilogy of future war films. I was quite happy to let this story end with Terminator 2. Now however I feel a bit more open to new possibilites in the Terminator franchise. Just as long as they dont involve more time travelling assasinations.

Considering how bad this show could have been, I think they are doing quite a good job keeping it interesting, answering questions, and moving the plot along. Most of all, not making it some super dramatic soap opera has been a stroke of genius. However, i disagree with you at least about the future films. Making them I think makes perfect sense. The series wouldn't really have any resolution until the end of the future war, so I think it would make sense to make a movie about it. And with Bale on board, we are *almost* guaranteed a good movie.
And, the show is building toward something awesome. Judgement Day. Saddly we won't see that on this program, but it is awesome.

[Archetype]

Has Bale made a bad movie? Ever?

[The Batman]

Has Bale made a bad movie? Ever?
No. But has the director? yep. several.

[Rover]

What do you mean? Which terminator? Cameron?No, the one that's been hunting them since the first season. He hung around with Cameron's woman shelter/halfway house friend last episode. He went around looking for his niece.

Sarah let that guy live in the bathroom, and at the end the guy is telling the Terminator what he knows.

[The Batman]

No, the one that's been hunting them since the first season. He hung around with Cameron's woman shelter/halfway house friend last episode. He went around looking for his niece.

Sarah let that guy live in the bathroom, and at the end the guy is telling the Terminator what he knows.

But her letting that guy live is very much part of the character. From the movies and now, she obviously doesn't want innocents to die. So I think it works. She knew it would be a risk obviously, but did she have any clue that Cromartie was that close to them? Not so much.

[Fiend1138]

pretty solid... good ending.

[Ethix]

I hope John stops acting like a whiney teenager soon. Other than that, great episode.

I love how manipulative Cameron can be....even if it didn't exactly work the way she wanted.

[Nature's Folly]

I just want to know if john is gonna bone his chunky g/f anytime soon...guy needs to get some and in a bad way. Also? Cameron needs to just fuck some guy and then rip his penis off in her steel vagina.

[Archangel]

You calling Riley "chunky" is kind of funny.

[Pax Britannia]

I'm about to watch this episode. Let me guess how it pans out:

Everyone looks moody. John and Sarah brood allot. Johns uncle flirts with the hot asian. Cameron continues to struggle with human nature.

And if we're really lucky there will be a Terminator fight that will involve allot of pushing.

[Archangel]

1 out of 6.


Try again.

[The Batman]

I'm about to watch this episode. Let me guess how it pans out:

Everyone looks moody. John and Sarah brood allot. Johns uncle flirts with the hot asian. Cameron continues to struggle with human nature.

And if we're really lucky there will be a Terminator fight that will involve allot of pushing.

Actually you were pretty off.

[Pax Britannia]

Yeah I know. This epsiode was very different.

I stand by my synopsis based on the earlier episodes of this season though.

[fuldstændigamok]

I hope John stops acting like a whiney teenager soon. Other than that, great episode.

I love how manipulative Cameron can be....even if it didn't exactly work the way she wanted.

That's the point with Cameron, we don't really know what's going on with her. She is...evolving, as weird as it is to say about a machine. When she said to Derek that she won't allowed anything to happen to John, it was almost passionate, human.
And as Pax mentionned, we constantly have this feeling that it's building up to something absolutely awesome. The writers really do a great job on this show, it seems that every little detail is carefully planed to add something important to the puzzle, and more the story goes, more the details become primary.
I like particulary where they have taken Ellison, though I wonder what will become of him from now on. That was really a turning point for him in this ep. He paid his debt, but he has absolutely nothing left: no job, no family and most importantly, no more goals. It will be interesting to see which path he will choose in the future.
Also, RIP Cromartie, he was a great Terminator.

[Pax Britannia]

Just a little thing in the episode thats been buzzing around my brain: When Cameron went to see John she took her overshirt off before entering his room. Was this a psychological play to manipulate a young mans love of the female form? or was it as Fuld suggested something more passionate? Was she trying to get him to notice her that way?

[Rover]

I think it was a psychological play.

Did you change?

I was hot.

Haha. Anyway, it got me thinking about whether or not a Terminator would crush you during sex. But then she made a comment about how John talks to her about things (presumably in the future), that made me think that there was some kind of emotional relationship between the two.

[Pax Britannia]

I'd put my penis inside my X-Box if it looked like Summer Glau.

[fuldstændigamok]

I think it was a psychological play.

Did you change?

I was hot.

Haha. Anyway, it got me thinking about whether or not a Terminator would crush you during sex. But then she made a comment about how John talks to her about things (presumably in the future), that made me think that there was some kind of emotional relationship between the two.

Well, we do know that the true Cameron was close to John in the future, and we also kinda know that Cameron's chip is a bit fried.

[Ethix]

I think it was a psychological play.

Did you change?

I was hot.

Haha. Anyway, it got me thinking about whether or not a Terminator would crush you during sex. But then she made a comment about how John talks to her about things (presumably in the future), that made me think that there was some kind of emotional relationship between the two.


I agree that it was a psychological play, but it makes me wonder if it was Cameron that talks to John in the future or if she's channeling Allison again.

Cromartie also made a comment about damage to her chip or something right before Sarah threw herself out of the back of his car.

EDIT: Fuld just said all that.....damn.

[Face]

I'd put my penis inside my X-Box if it looked like Summer Glau.
you'd fuck your xbox anyway, wouldn't you

[Pax Britannia]

you'd fuck your xbox anyway, wouldn't you

Machines need love too.

[Archangel]

It's funny. "Did she take off her shirt because she's a calculating machine and knows how young men work?"

Or is she just acting like any hot chick on the planet, knowing that blokes would do anything for their attention?

[The Batman]

Haha. Anyway, it got me thinking about whether or not a Terminator would crush you during sex.

If she would crush me on top, then I would just be forced to fuck her from behind and on top. I think I could live with that.

[Billy]

If he had pooned her, I would have a newfound respect for John and no longer hope he dies a horrible death in every episode

[Claibo]

If she would crush me on top, then I would just be forced to fuck her from behind and on top. I think I could live with that.


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[Ethix]

Just remember not to use water based lube or you might shock your dick.



Try... Penzoil 10w-30.

Nah. Mobil1 Extended Performance 15w50

[Billy]

The terminators don't seem to make the cars ride any lower, so I'm assuming that they are now made of some sort of relatively lightweight metal...

[The Batman]

The terminators don't seem to make the cars ride any lower, so I'm assuming that they are now made of some sort of relatively lightweight metal...

No. its too much trouble/expensive to create an effect like that for EVERY car they get in.

[The Batman]

This is a good show. They keep finding ways to change up the story telling, telling different types of stories, and keep the plot progressing. I hope they don't cancel it after the season is over.

[Billy]

What the hell happened in this episode with Sarah's dreams? I missed the first few minutes of the episode and about a minute of the part leading up to her going to the shrink, and ended up drawing a giant WTF from the whole episode.

[The Batman]

What the hell happened in this episode with Sarah's dreams? I missed the first few minutes of the episode and about a minute of the part leading up to her going to the shrink, and ended up drawing a giant WTF from the whole episode.

The show opened up with a dream sequence, and it was all kinda weird, so you didn't miss anything. Basically it was this cactus, that was silver, that became machine like, that grabbed jon.

[Archangel]

Lord have mercy, but Ms Headey looked good in that tight little turtleneck...

[Billy]

I've said it before and I'm sure that I'll say it again, but this show needs WAY more Summer Glau naked. Possibly with objects shoved in her snooch

[Mustard]

Snooch? You mean pussy right?

Because snooch could mean any number of places, up to and including the back of the knee, bend of the neck, and other things.

[Billy]

I was referring to the back of her knee, but I suppose her pussy would make for a good visual too.

[Mustard]

See, this is why I ask the tough questions. Thanks for clearing up that misunderstood nomenclature for me.

[Billy]

No problem. Clarity is my foremost goal in posting here, so occasional feedback is more than welcomed.

[Archangel]

Nakedness is desirable, but that dress she was in... DAYUM.

[Billy]

That's true, but I still think the show would be best served by going in a more "Summer Glau naked with items in her snatch" sort of direction

[Billy]

Every episode could feature a new item, which would keep the show fresh

[Archangel]

It's got my vote...

[Billy]

We'll need to start a petition. I'm fairly certain that we can get more than a convincing amount of signatures quite easily

[Archangel]

Great, great episode. And Summer Glau is a goddess.

[fuldstændigamok]

An episode with 90% of Cameron is always great.

[ripitkyle77]

the show is pretty cool. but the only down side is that no matter what happens john will never die. so it sorta kills the suspense when he is in trouble.

[Face]

I wish you would die

[Archangel]

Hell of a way to learn you're an uncle, huh.

[comicfan]

Kind of found last episode to be really slow paced. She got show blah blah. And so little of summer... just not their best episode.

[Ethix]

Hell of a way to learn you're an uncle, huh.


He already knew he was John's uncle. He took John to see the mini-Reese's (sounds like a candy) playing catch in the park so John could see his father.

[Archangel]

He already knew he was John's uncle. He took John to see the mini-Reese's (sounds like a candy) playing catch in the park so John could see his father.

Yeah, that hit me, too, at some point.

So why is he acting so surprised?

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

I think because Sarah didn't want him to know.

[comicfan]

Or maybe the writers just forgot about this continuity fact...

[Archangel]

What I loved about the episode is how they integrated that whole "I'd die for John Connor" dialogue from the original flick.

[Fiend1138]

He already knew he was John's uncle. He took John to see the mini-Reese's (sounds like a candy) playing catch in the park so John could see his father.

He took John to see little Derek and his brother. John knew who it was, but Derek didn't know that he was showing him his dad.

[Archangel]

He took John to see little Derek and his brother. John knew who it was, but Derek didn't know that he was showing him his dad.

Um, Derek says to John while looking at his younger self and Kyle play baseball, "every time I look at you, I see him", so I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that.

[syd2o2]

That drone coming out of the water, I got goose bumps when it happened.

[Archangel]

Did anyone else almost die when Cameron smiled that smile after John complimented her on her pancakes?

[Fiend1138]

I just liked when she randomly walked by John in her undies.

[riseabove!]

Every episode could feature a new item, which would keep the show fresh

my dick?

[Archangel]

I just liked when she randomly walked by John in her undies.

Now that I think about it, it may not have been all that random.

All the scenes not involving the van are Sarah's nightmare, right? And it'd be a pretty scary thought to her that Cameron would actually take her son away from her, both as a woman (hot chick in her underwear) AND a mother (pancakes)...

[Pax Britannia]

If Cameron hadnt walked past John in her underwear this entire episode would have been the most boring i've ever seen.

[cleetus]

wtf, they wrote out Derick? He was badass. AND he's nailing Megan Fox. Win-win

[Archangel]

This show finally appears to be getting back on track. What if Weaver is some sort of "converted" terminator who, as a rogue agent, ftries to change the future/fight Skynet by her own means? The part about how she thinks that John Henry may be the key to people's survival pointed me that way...

[Ethix]

I was thinking about that as well. It also got me thinking about that future/flashback thing with Jesse on the submarine where they go to pick up the T1000. Before Jesse sinks the sub, the T1000 tells her to tell John that the answer is no and you find out later from Cameron that the question was whether the T1000 wanted to join the resistance. Maybe it decided on it's own method of stopping Judgement Day and that it came back and took over the role of Weaver.

[Rover]

This show finally appears to be getting back on track. What if Weaver is some sort of "converted" terminator who, as a rogue agent, ftries to change the future/fight Skynet by her own means? The part about how she thinks that John Henry may be the key to people's survival pointed me that way...Or she wants people to survive so that they can be enslaved.

And lulz at Weaver's daughter telling her she can't sing.

[fuldstændigamok]

Or she wants people to survive so that they can be enslaved.
I doubt that. I'm more on the theory of a rogue agent as Ethix said.
The death of Derek was out there though, I really, really didn't see it coming and certainly not that way. Being the bad ass mofo that he was, I'll have thought that when the time come it would have been in a blaze of furious shooting with plenty of corpse lying around, but there, gosh, it was cold as a terminator. But then again, it simply reflect the mood of the show, nothing more, nothing less.
It worries me though, what with Charley last ep and now Derek (and the bad rating), I have the unpleasant feeling that the season finale might be the finale full stop. I hope I'm wrong because I really love this show.

[Ethix]

I think we'll see Derek again. They'll change something and a different Derek will come back from the future.

[fuldstændigamok]

Or they'll meet him in the future...
So, a huge game changing situation, the confirmation that Weaver was part of the resistance, the confirmation that John-Henry was a terminator "version" of John Connors, a future were the resistance exist without John Connors (up until now at least).
Even more questions than ever. The biggest one being, will we have a 3rd season? I can't stress enough how much I want it, but the chances of that are slim, aren't they?


PS: loved the terminator fish bit, that was a nice touch.

[syd2o2]

They should renew it. Terminator movie is coming out in a couple of months, and if that turns out huge, there would a renewed interest in the series from the general public.

[NoGravitas]

That was a great finale. Glad i stuck with the show through the slow beginning. I hope they give it a third season but i seriously doubt they will unless the new film is a massive success.

[Billy]

Even if they continue the series, I'm not sure I lie the idea of Summer Glau no longer being a terminator

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

I think they pooped themselves.

[MDiver01]

Ok no john connor in the future, so heads the resistence then? Kyle? Another thing to think is did she jump him that far ahead so he couldnt lead the resistence?

[Warden]

uhhhh...Ya. She did. In this version of time travel, its set in stone. He vanishes from current day/time, he isnt there for Judgment day. So John can not lead the resistance in the future.

Needless to say, I pray it gets another season just so I can see how they make the season finale work.

[MDiver01]

No I meant I was wondering if she did it on purpose so he couldnt lead the resistence thus dooming them.

[Fiend1138]

uhhhh...Ya. She did. In this version of time travel, its set in stone. He vanishes from current day/time, he isnt there for Judgment day. So John can not lead the resistance in the future.

Needless to say, I pray it gets another season just so I can see how they make the season finale work.

In the show time travel is not set in stone. The writers straight said that the events in T3 happened in an alternate time line. As soon as Cameron came back she changed the future. Also they said in the show that the Jessie that came back was also from a different future than Derek.

Plus, for all we know the John Connor that went to the future may just well be the same that leads the resistance. We don't know exactly what time in the future he arrived.

Also in a bunch of episodes people keep on referring to the female Terminator John chooses to keep around him. They never show them together in the future. So far we've been led to believe that it's Cameron, but it may well be Weaver. We really don't know...

No I meant I was wondering if she did it on purpose so he couldnt lead the resistence thus dooming them.

If that was the case, she would have just killed him as soon as they arrived in the future (since there was absolutely no one around them, and John was completely defenseless, butt naked to be exact.

[MDiver01]

Fucking time travel. They better keep this up for another season.


If that was the case, she would have just killed him as soon as they arrived in the future (since there was absolutely no one around them, and John was completely defenseless, butt naked to be exact.
Yeah good call. There are too many damn
variables to this story.

[NoGravitas]

I think the double guessing is over for now. Weaver T1000 seems to be on the humans side and I reckon that the John Connor sent to the future is the John Connor that leads the resistance (that would be how he survives judgement day). That said though how the hell does a T1000 decide to be "good"? Think this was a Jonny 5 moment and she got hit by lightning or something?

[Tar Heel]

Shit. I'll be pissed if this show gets canned. It really got good this season.

[ShitBreak]

Shit. I'll be pissed if this show gets canned. It really got good this season.

No fucking shit.

Seriously...I think Fox would be fucking stupid to cancel it. Viewership tends to drop off when they fucking put it on FRIDAY FUCKING NIGHT.

The movie is going to generate buzz. This was one of the best written/acted shows this season.

Hell, if they were smart (and Salvation does well), they should fucking try everything they can to PROMOTE the show. Not cancel it.

Then again...it's Fox. They are notorious for cancelling shit.

[fuldstændigamok]

We should start a GMF petition, I'm sure that that will make them change their minds asap.

[ShitBreak]

My buddy who works for DirecTV said they are already getting a ton of out-of-US mail trying to have them produce the show if it gets canned.

They did/are doing the same thing with Friday Night Lights, and that show is doing pretty well. But DirecTV is actually producing it.

[Warden]

For canceling good shit to. Seems that if ratings are not AI good, they consider canceling everything.

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

Terminator, Chuck and The Unit are all under the gun.

Sad face.

[ShitBreak]

I think, honestly...out of all of those, Chuck is the most safe (thank god...i love that show).

NBC's linup is so shitty that the ratings that would have been "cancel-worthy" before are "meh...not too shabby" now.

It doesn't help Chuck that it is in a insanely hard timeslot, has no lead-in, and the whole Heroes thing has gone into the shitter.

[CrazyCarl]

Scoop: Fox set to terminate 'Sarah Connor Chronicles' (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/scoop-fox-set-t.html)


Resist the urge to nuke the messenger, but multiple sources are telling me that Fox will not be renewing Terminator: The Summer Glau Sarah Connor Chronicles for a third season. "It's done," maintains a source close to the show. "Everyone has pretty much known for a couple of weeks." Adds a network insider: "Consider it canceled."
The one bright spot? Despite horrific ratings, Fox isn't ready to declare SCC dead and buried -- at least not officially. "No decision has been made yet," insists a network rep. "We will be announcing our fall schedule on May 18."
Rough translation: It won't be back.
Oh, I just thought of one other bright spot: At least the show went out on top creatively. Last Friday's finale was an action-packed, closure-filled triumph. The only thing left unresolved is what Summer Glau will do for an encore. I'm thinking 24 should hire her as next season's Big Bad

[Billy]

Tim5nU3DwIE

[Archangel]

I love Fox. Get a great show, totally mismanage it, then blame everybody but themselves for its low ratings, cancel it.

[Titus_Pullo]

I think this is a tired franchise(new movie included).

I mean, with something like Star Trek or James Bond, you can always keep it fresh with timely topics and such. This is just:

1. Machines Rise Up
2. Humans eventually beat Machines.

[NoGravitas]

Not suprised in the least. At the end of the day its fox. They cancelled firefly ffs!

[kulashaker]

wonder how much better the show could have done on a cable network.