Most unattainable achievement?

[Mustard]

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The video has nothing to do with the poll at all.



Ok, with regards to the list, (if I left something off sue me) what is the most unattainable individual sports achievement? For the sake of argument, we will assume that this must be done in the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, PGA, PBA, etc. The length of the game is not a factor, so a 5OT game in basketball would be legit, as would a 20 inning baseball game, or a 6OT NCAAF game. You get the point I hope.

Is it the:

Calendar year Grand Slam of golf - Winning The Masters, The US Open, The British Open, and the PGA Championship in the same calendar year? Of all of the items on the list, this is the only one I'm considering that takes over one day to achieve.

Quadruple Double - a lone player accounting for over ten or more of at least four categories consisting of either points, assists, rebounds, blocks, and steals in one game, regardless of length.

101+ point game - in basketball Wilt scored 100 points once, but can it be eclipsed, by even one point?

Under 60 in a major golf tournament - speaks for itself, 59 or less for one round of at least par 70 or greater.

405+ yards rushing in one game - in football, one man has rushed for 404 yards in a game. Can his record be broken?

555+ yards passing in one game - again in football, one man has passed for 554 yards in one game. Can this record be broken?

2:00:00 or less marathon - Can a sub 2 hour marathon be attained? The WR is 2:03:59.

Picking up a 5-7-10 split on a TV bowling tournament - its never happened on TV, could it ever?

Shooting 6+ goals in one NHL game - its been done 6 times before, once even for 7 goals, but can it be done again?

Pitching a perfect game - Sure its been done 17 times before, but its still ridiculously hard to achieve. With baseball players getting better, and the technology of baseball being more geared towards offense, can another perfect game be pitched?


...and for lulz

The Double Cycle - a lone player accounting for two singles, doubles, triples, and home runs in one game, regardless of length. I'm leaving this one off because, well, its just to ridiculously hard to achieve. Its the same reason I'm leaving the quintuple double off as well. Also gonna add the 3:00 or less time running 1500m. Apparently its more or less ridiculous as well.

Which is it?

[mongo]

300k's ftw!

[Mustard]

Ah crap, I left one off the list. Can somebody edit in the 3:00 or less option? Is that possible?

[}{arlequin]

a situp?

[mongo]

Ah crap, I left one off the list. Can somebody edit in the 3:00 or less option? Is that possible?

what 3:00 option?

[Mustard]

what 3:00 option?
3 mins or less for 1500m.

[mongo]

uh, dude, the wr is 3:26.

[Mustard]

Uh dude, I know, its even in the post.

[mongo]

in that case, no, 3:00 1500 is like breaking off a 1:50 marathon. if it ever happens, it'll be long after we is deed.

[Mustard]

I remember hearing not too long ago how the 4 minute mile was unattainable, and the wr is more than halfway to 3 mins now. I guess thats why its on the list... or isn't, because i forgot and left it off.

[mongo]

1. the mile = 1600 meters
2. roger bannister broke that shit in 1929.
3. eat a dick.

[Mustard]

Haha, I just remembered you're a running guru. Lols

I should know better than to argue with somebody who lives for running. Meh.

[mongo]

4. my 1600 pr is 4:13.


i is weak..

[Mustard]

I don't have a pr for running. Surprised?

[mongo]

"sub 2 hour marathon" would have been an awesome option.

[fuldstændigamok]

"sub 2 hour marathon" would have been an awesome option.

Want this one in too, sink?

[Mustard]

"sub 2 hour marathon" would have been an awesome option.

As would a perfect series in bowling, seeing as its only been done like 9 times. But I already had a tougher bowling feat, and I didn't even consider marathons for running. Maybe your option would be more attainable than a 3 min 1500m? So at least it would be reasonable to achieve?

[mongo]

the current marathon record is 2:03:59.

crazy thing is, in 1969, it was only 2:09:16.

since then, runners have gained sponsorships, lifestyles that revolve around training, and scientific research. it's a surprisingly small gain over the last 30 years.

[Mustard]

So whats more likely to happen first, a sub 2 hour marathon, or a sub 3 min 1500m?

[mongo]

sub 2 hour marathon. by a long shot.

[mongo]

i doubt any gmf member will ever see a sub 3 1500. that's so far out it's retarded.

[Mustard]

Maybe then I ought to swap out the 3 minute 1500 for the sub 2 hour marathon, and put the 3 minute 1500 with the double cycle and quintuple double. Seems like the rational thing to do, so I'll do it.

[mongo]

now that i've pulled all this shit, where are the more than 20k's in a game or the more than 4 hr's in a game, options?

[Mustard]

I was thinking about baseball achievements alot, but to me only the perfect game felt like it had the prestige to stand on the list. Sure its been done 17 times before, and 20 k's and 4 homers are certainly hard to achieve too, but like I said, there's just something about the prestige of a perfect game.

I also considered a home-run cycle, (a solo, 2-run, 3-run, and grand slam) but thats just silly.

[Insomniac]

Instead of a perfect game, how about a 27k game, a pitcher essentially winning a game by himself?

[Satan]

The quadruple double has been done, I believe.

[Mustard]

The quadruple double has been done, I believe.
So have perfect games, along with 5-7-10s being picked up. Doesn't make it any less difficult.

[Stax]

Instead of a perfect game, how about a 27k game, a pitcher essentially winning a game by himself?

Yeah, either that or a 5 HR game. A perfect game isn't really the same as these others.

[Archangel]

I'm pretty sure Wilt's 100 points are there to stay for a long ass time, as are his 55 rebounds.

Also, triple double season average.

[ADD]

The quadruple double has been done, I believe.

4 times

The NBA officially recognizes four quadruple-doubles:


Nate Thurmond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Thurmond), October 18 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_18), 1974 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974), Chicago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Bulls) vs. Atlanta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Hawks); 22 points, 14 rebounds, 13 assists, 12 blocks. (OT)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadruple-double#cite_note-1)
Alvin Robertson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson), February 18 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_18), 1986 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986), San Antonio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio_Spurs) vs. Phoenix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Suns); 20 points, 11 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 steals.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadruple-double#cite_note-2)
Hakeem Olajuwon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakeem_Olajuwon), March 29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_29), 1990 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990), Houston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Rockets) vs. Milwaukee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_Bucks); 18 points, 16 rebounds, 10 assists, 11 blocks.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadruple-double#cite_note-3)
David Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Robinson_%28basketball%29), February 17 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_17), 1994 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994), San Antonio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio_Spurs) vs. Detroit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Pistons); 34 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 blocks.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadruple-double#cite_note-4)

[STDSkillz]

100+ points won't be happening anytime soon. And if you leave a 5-7-10, you probably shouldn't be on the tour. But that shit seems impossible to pick up. Guess you would have to throw it really, really hard at the 5 and have it hit the 7 or the 10 and then have that pin get a lucky bounce.

[Stax]

Thing is Kobe got 81. Wilt's record is both a single game event (though all the non-golf ones are) and really just a product of getting enough possessions. If some team had a guy start off really well in a meaningless game? I could see him just getting fed the ball and getting close. I think the more interesting question would be a season-length unattainable achievement poll, like averaging a triple double or hitting .400.

[Jericho]

I think Joe's 56 trumps these

[STDSkillz]

Thing is Kobe got 81. Wilt's record is both a single game event (though all the non-golf ones are) and really just a product of getting enough possessions. If some team had a guy start off really well in a meaningless game? I could see him just getting fed the ball and getting close. I think the more interesting question would be a season-length unattainable achievement poll, like averaging a triple double or hitting .400.
How about this, then: no one will ever again average 50 points for an entire season.

[Das Kahlua]

How about this, then: no one will ever again average 50 points for an entire season.

And no one will break Cy Young's record of 511 wins.

Some of these things might very well happen, but all are extremely rare.

[Stax]

How about this, then: no one will ever again average 50 points for an entire season.

As Kahlua said, Cy Young is the alternate to that. Some 'records' the fundamental game has changed such that the mark really can't occur again. I think a one-per-sport comparison would be interesting like:

- Average a triple double for a season
- Hit .400 for a season
- Single season rushing/passing record? Some kind of TD mark?

[Das Kahlua]

As Kahlua said, Cy Young is the alternate to that. Some 'records' the fundamental game has changed such that the mark really can't occur again. I think a one-per-sport comparison would be interesting like:

- Average a triple double for a season
- Hit .400 for a season
- Single season rushing/passing record? Some kind of TD mark?

Exactly. Something extremely difficult, but not impossible, to achieve.

[Le Goat]

hands down 27k's

It just won't happen.

[Das Kahlua]

How about:

MLB: unassisted triple-play
NHL: Lemieux's all 5 types of goals (even strength, short handed, PP, shoot-out and empty net) in one game being duplicated

Just a couple more off the top of my head.

[Archangel]

Thing is Kobe got 81. Wilt's record is both a single game event (though all the non-golf ones are) and really just a product of getting enough possessions. If some team had a guy start off really well in a meaningless game? I could see him just getting fed the ball and getting close. I think the more interesting question would be a season-length unattainable achievement poll, like averaging a triple double or hitting .400.

The greatest scorer of this decade got all the possessions he wanted against pretty much the worst defence of all time (sorry Raptor fans), and still fell short by twenty points, which is an all-star calibre per-game average. Sure, on paper 81 looks pretty close to 101, but when you look at it objectively, 20 points are a lot. As in, another 25 possessions or so.

Wilt scoring 100 took a miracle itself - namely the Dipper actually hitting some free throws. With the relatively few possessions per game today (I think I've read that adjusted for possessions as they were in Big O's day, LeBron WOULD be averaging a triple double), that shit isn't gonna happen any time soon.

But as I said, while 70+ and 80+ are obviously feasible for a guard, no big man since has ever been dominant enough to get 55 fucking rebounds in the pros. That's Dwight Howard playing seventh graders right there. Personally, I think that's more impressive (and less likely to be repeated) than the 100 points.

[Das Kahlua]

The greatest scorer of this decade got all the possessions he wanted against pretty much the worst defence of all time (sorry Raptor fans), and still fell short by twenty points, which is an all-star calibre per-game average. Sure, on paper 81 looks pretty close to 101, but when you look at it objectively, 20 points are a lot. As in, another 25 possessions or so.

Wilt scoring 100 took a miracle itself - namely the Dipper actually hitting some free throws. With the relatively few possessions per game today (I think I've read that adjusted for possessions as they were in Big O's day, LeBron WOULD be averaging a triple double), that shit isn't gonna happen any time soon.

But as I said, while 70+ and 80+ are obviously feasible for a guard, no big man since has ever been dominant enough to get 55 fucking rebounds in the pros. That's Dwight Howard playing seventh graders right there. Personally, I think that's more impressive (and less likely to be repeated) than the 100 points.

At least per this thread, if that 81 point game had gone to OT, Kobe could have gotten to 100 and it would have counted, rather than a regulation length game.

100+ points is not likely, but if a player like Kobe or LeBron were on fire a particular night, hitting every shot they took practically, and the team made it their game plan to get that player 100 points, it is possible.

The problem of one particular player practically single-handedly scoring all of a team's points is that often that team loses. For a team to make such a commitment to a player, the game has to be a throw-away game.

[The Dude]

on this list it's definitely sub 2 hour marathon

[Hoser]

5-7-10 has been done.

[Das Kahlua]

5-7-10 has been done.

Not on TV.

Several of these things have been done, the question is which is the most/least likely to happen again.

[heelsguy]

averaging a triple double in the NBA.

no way because the game has changed since oscar did it

[mongo]

on this list it's definitely sub 2 hour marathon

ding, ding, ding.

[Das Kahlua]

How about whether any MLB pitcher will ever again get 300 wins.

[heelsguy]

i don't care what anyone says. averaging a triple-double for an entire season would be damned-near imposssible . if magic could not do it...

[Das Kahlua]

i don't care what anyone says. averaging a triple-double for an entire season would be damned-near imposssible . if magic could not do it...

The best chance someone would have had to do it would have been Shaq with Kobe during their championship run.

I don't really see another player on the horizon with an opportunity like that.

[Archangel]

How the hell was Shaq gonna average a triple-double? He never averaged even four apg for a season...

[Hoser]

Lowest goals against average (.92) for a season will never happen again.

[Das Kahlua]

How the hell was Shaq gonna average a triple-double? He never averaged even four apg for a season...

He was a dominate inside force that could get a double-double with points and rebounds. If he had been able to utilize his equally dominate teammate on the perimeter (Kobe), he could have been racking up the assists. I understand that he didn't, which is why he was unable to average a triple-double.

My point was, I saw him in that situation as the most able to set that mark. If he couldn't, doubtful anyone else could.

[moe_blunts]

I voted under 60 in a major.

[heelsguy]

I voted under 60 in a major.


why not? phil shot a 30 on the front 9 just 2 weeks ago at augusta!

I think that can happen and probably at the masters where players play the same course year after year

[Hoser]

Shooting a 30 on the front means nothing other then you had a great front 9. The odds of hitting a 29 on the back are near impossible.

[Infotainment]

I think Oscar Robertson pulled off a quadruple double a few times... Hell he had a couple of seasons where he averaged a triple double so it wouldn't surprise me.

[misterfatt]

averaging a triple double is and would be impressive—not taking anything away from oscar—but had blocks been counted as an actual statistic back in the day, i'm sure russell could have averaged a quadruple double the way he turned blocked shots into lead passes.

i don't think lebron has come anywhere close to peaking as a player, so i could easily see him averaging a triple double in a couple years if he actually cared to. other than james, the only other current player i could see pulling off averaging a triple double would be chris paul.

[Hoser]

someone almost doing something doesnt mean it will ever be done.

That being said.

BA
The NBA officially recognizes four quadruple-doubles:
Nate Thurmond, October 18, 1974, Chicago vs. Atlanta; 22 points, 14 rebounds, 13 assists, 12 blocks. (OT)[2]
Alvin Robertson, February 18, 1986, San Antonio vs. Phoenix; 20 points, 11 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 steals.[3]
Hakeem Olajuwon, March 29, 1990, Houston vs. Milwaukee; 18 points, 16 rebounds, 10 assists, 11 blocks.[4]
David Robinson, February 17, 1994, San Antonio vs. Detroit; 34 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 blocks.[5]

[Hoser]

I would defiantly change the 6+ goals for getting better then a .92 GGA. It will happen again for sure now that scoring is back up. Hell I had 6 in a game last year and I am not nearly the best on my team. I could see Ovechkin or Crosby or someone like them doing it.

[Das Kahlua]

I would defiantly change the 6+ goals for getting better then a .92 GGA. It will happen again for sure now that scoring is back up. Hell I had 6 in a game last year and I am not nearly the best on my team. I could see Ovechkin or Crosby or someone like them doing it.

How about:

NHL: Lemieux's all 5 types of goals (even strength, short handed, PP, shoot-out and empty net) in one game being duplicated

[heelsguy]

averaging a triple double is and would be impressive—not taking anything away from oscar—but had blocks been counted as an actual statistic back in the day, i'm sure russell could have averaged a quadruple double the way he turned blocked shots into lead passes.

i don't think lebron has come anywhere close to peaking as a player, so i could easily see him averaging a triple double in a couple years if he actually cared to. other than james, the only other current player i could see pulling off averaging a triple double would be chris paul.


we do not have any idea how many blocks russell had but to say he had 10 per game during his prime years is a questionable..we will never know. it is not like we can go back and watch all his games on tape and count them. Russell was a beast, that is for sure, but 10 blocks a night every night? On a side note, since the 3-pt shot did not exist there was less reason to shoot far from the basket--and his long arms--that did give him more opportunities than in today's NBA.

as far as your statement about james, well...we'll see. he is the best candidate, along with wade, IMO. right James would need to have 2 more rebounds a night and 3 more assists. that does not sound like much, but it is.

[Menace2Sobriety]

How about being a QB drafted number one overall, having a MVP caliber year as a first year starter, rushing for over 1000 yards in a season, posting a sub-80 passer rating for your career, becoming the highest paid player in the NFL and taking a leading role in destroying your own career by financing a dogfightinf ring. Try repeating that shit.