Fringe

[Kopek]

Discuss all spooky X-Files rip-offery here by only using hyphens.

[thestronz]

Caught the pilot for this last night. Wasn't bad, but wasn't great either. The main chick just doesn't do it for me. She looks like a mix between Cate Blanchett and Kate Hudson, but she can't act for shit.

The rest of the cast was solid, and the music was familiar stuff from Lost, Sunshine and Signs. Being a big X-Files and Lost fan, I just don't see it lasting, but who knows. I'll give it a chance for a few weeks.

[Philip Lombard]

music was a temp score

[Metzgarob]

I didnt care for it too much, but didnt hate it. I will most likely give it a few episodes before I give up.

[Tar Heel]

The best thing you can say about this show is that you didn't hate it and you are planning on watching it again?

[Philip Lombard]

i want to see a hockey scene and i want to see charlie do a triple deke

[Hulud]

guess i missed the premiere... thought the preview looked kinda interesting but not too sure i can stomach joshua jackson

[thestronz]

the actual premiere is on September 9th, but you can find it online if you want to catch it ahead of time

[El Torpedo]

pilot (http://surfthechannel.com/info/television/Fringe/79633/S1E1.html?aid=118903)

[Cornelius]

Fuck JJ Abrams. This is jsut going to be another cliff hanger show without an ounce of resolution! Shit we've gone on three years on Lost without a damn thing being resolved. And Cloverfield? Are we ever going to know whether or not the damn thing died? I don't think the guy knows how to end a story.

[Stax]

I'm giving this a shot, I don't mind semi-crappy sci-fi. However I already have one issue, despite making a throw-away remark about the auto-pilot system being a brand new system, there is nothing close (as far as I know) to a system that can land a plane by itself.

[Alcestis]

JJ Abrams was on Good Day LA this morning and they asked what his obsession with planes was about, and he said he loved the Airport (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065377/) type films.

The show tonight is the pilot, so what was on the other night that I missed?

[Claydon]

JJ Abrams was on Good Day LA this morning and they asked what his obsession with planes was about, and he said he loved the Airport (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065377/) type films.

The show tonight is the pilot, so what was on the other night that I missed?

This seems kind of interesting, and between this and Lost im trying to get a feel for JJ abrams style as he is the one who is directing the new trek flick.

[comicfan]

Well I thought the show was actually pretty good for what it was billed as. I will definitely be checking this out each week for the next little while. And hey.. it was filmed in Toronto so it cannot be that bad.... can it?

[CrazyCarl]

I hope this fewer commercials thing catches on

[Philip Lombard]

This seems kind of interesting, and between this and Lost im trying to get a feel for JJ abrams style as he is the one who is directing the new trek flick.
He directed Mission: Impossible III as well.

[emthreepeeoh]

I thought it was better than I expected. I came in thinking it was going to be a direct rip of the X-Files and while it did take cue's from it, it still had its own flavor.

I did enjoy the humor as well. Also the fact when I saw the chick for the first time I thought "Man, I'd like to see her naked". Low and behold an hour into it she's in her underwear, not naked but +1 effort.

[Fiend1138]

not bad...

[Jericho]

Whoa, is this Alvarez from Oz

[Philip Lombard]

Anna Torv is a 7 at best.


There I said it.

[Kilgore]

Caught the pilot for this last night. Wasn't bad, but wasn't great either. The main chick just doesn't do it for me. She looks like a mix between Cate Blanchett and Kate Hudson, but she can't act for shit.

The rest of the cast was solid, and the music was familiar stuff from Lost, Sunshine and Signs. Being a big X-Files and Lost fan, I just don't see it lasting, but who knows. I'll give it a chance for a few weeks.

I thought it was great. I loved it, and can't wait to see more.
her boyfriend being the guy who was behind the evil twin, didn't see that comming, thought it might be the black dude from the wire.

Funny when I saw her I thought Cate Blanchett too but she does do it for me, fake blond, tall, thin, dark eyes, a few freckles. Winning combination.

[Alcestis]

I thought it was great. I loved it, and can't wait to see more.
her boyfriend being the guy who was behind the evil twin, didn't see that comming, thought it might be the black dude from the wire.

Funny when I saw her I thought Cate Blanchett too but she does do it for me, fake blond, tall, thin, dark eyes, a few freckles. Winning combination.

Finally watch my dvr, liked it and will watch again.

Speaking of the 'black guy'...ah...isn't he also on LOST? He works for Oceanic?

Not sure if its just me, but "Walter" cracks me up, so I hope they keep him around. And the scene where you have him, his son the assistant and the cow all eating Chinese food watching tv...just made me laugh.

[CobraAC]

I actually thought he was good., and yes the special agent in charge is on lost, and he was a main character on the wire

[awonderful]

It looked, smelled and tasted like the x-files. But pacey is oh so deamy

[Draven X 23]

I caught the pilot tonight and I must say I was bored senseless. The show is mostly surrounding that one chick and she can't act for shit. And I agree she does nothing for me. Many hotter women out there. Maybe one that can act too.

The pacing was too slow. Also could have lived without the 50 jump cuts a minute during the chase scenes. I just can't see that fast I guess.

[Candycane]

I enjoyed it for the most part, but I'd also watch a JJ Abrams show about dogs who lick their balls, so I may not be "fair and balanced" in my opinion. I do love the return of Pacey Witter and yeah this chic is like Blanchett spit her out. I love the premise of all this stuff, I even read about it in my "spare" (ha ha) time.

[Alcestis]

I caught the pilot tonight and I must say I was bored senseless. The show is mostly surrounding that one chick and she can't act for shit. And I agree she does nothing for me. Many hotter women out there. Maybe one that can act too.

The pacing was too slow. Also could have lived without the 50 jump cuts a minute during the chase scenes. I just can't see that fast I guess.

Remember that episode was also 90 minutes, that may have added to the slow pace feeling, plus the commercials were 60 seconds or less. Thank goodness for dvr.

[Willam]

The boyfriend was the lead on a show called Keen Eddie (with Sienna Miller). Really enjoyed that though it only lasted 1 season. Hope he gets more airtime here.

[BSM]

I liked the first ep - I'm willing to give it a second shot on Tuesday

[Tar Heel]

I thought this show was an X-files rip off when I 1st watched it, but the more I think about it, the more I think it could come into it's own. It does have a little bit of a lost feel... The "something sinister is lying right in front of you but you can't see it" type stuff. They completely ripped of the Lost sound effects that they play right before the commercials. That made me lol quite a few times.

[One Under]

Good episode, it might take a while for it to get going but not a bad start. The Lost sound effects are very obvious. Anyone else notice those three bodies on beds right when the doctor guy was falling asleep?

[ShitBreak]

Good episode, it might take a while for it to get going but not a bad start. The Lost sound effects are very obvious. Anyone else notice those three bodies on beds right when the doctor guy was falling asleep?


If you are referring to what I think you are, it wasn't three bodies per say...it was 3 of the SAME bodies. the clones they had been talking about earlier.

[UNC]

I wish some people here would age that quickly

[Kopek]

Consider me out. The main chick is just way too subdued and I got tired of Joshua Jackson's shtick on "the Creek" a long time ago. He's basically playing the same exact character. He doesn't even bother to change any of his line delivery or mannerisms. Plus, exposition heavy first half of episodes usually kill anything if the payoff isn't worth the wait.

[Jericho]

I couldn't agree with you more, dude. I'm not really that into sci-fi, but thought I'd check it out based on the hype. I'm so not into it. The performances are all very wooden. None of the characters are very likable and you don't really give a crap if anything happens to them, save maybe for the dad. And it seems like if you get into it now, in a few weeks it'll be fucking 12 levels deep like LOST. Yeah, I'm over it

[emthreepeeoh]

If you are referring to what I think you are, it wasn't three bodies per say...it was 3 of the SAME bodies. the clones they had been talking about earlier.

It's all part of the "pattern". First week was some kind of Bio weapon, this week a cultivated army of clones. Sounds to me like some kind of new world order in the making with Massive Dynamics somehow to blame. Which is probably why the chic from Massive Dynamics is "working" with the dude from the Wire, to help clean up their messes.

Oh and I said it during the first episode (to myself of course) and it was pretty much verified in this one:

Pacey is a clone of his father.

[DeMartini Sands]

Second ep. was better than the first, hope tonight is good!!!!!

[Kilgore]

I'm hooked on this show. Each episode gets better and better.

[comicfan]

Great show, though I am a little annoyed with the adds that say Fringe will return in X number of seconds. Still trying to figure out where they are heading with it however.

[MDiver01]

just watched the first couple of episodes and I am hooked now. Hopefully tonight I can catch up.

[Hulud]

yeah the show is getting better, looking forward to seeing where its going

[Spoonman]

thought the observer episode was very good. i just wish that alvarez from oz was dunham's partner and josh jackson wasnt on the show

hope the actor from generation kill with that ray gun shows up again

[CobraAC]

The observer episode is quite good. I would have to admit the show needs to pickup some more speed before I really get into it.

[comicfan]

I think what they are doing is slowly building momentum with the show as they pick up viewers. It is a lot like Lost in the first season when it took a good 5-6 episodes to get really going. I still think the only reason Jackson is in the show is for the female viewers eye candy (if you really want to call him that...) I know a bunch of girls in the hospital are watching the show just because Pacey is on it.

[gigantor]

I dont know about fringe, i've been a bit uneven about the show so far...love lance reddick from the wire days (and lost appearances)...but some of the other cast doesnt really do it for me...

will try to keep up with it, but i think im going to try eleventh hour tomorrow night...has rufus sewelll...who i probably like more than everyone not named lance reddick on fringe...

[El Torpedo]

Yyyyyea I dont know about this show...

It is nice to see Alvarez again, haven't seen him since Oz.


Still on the fence. I have to say that the Doctor is one of the better characters of recent television, but Joshua Jacksons character can get so extremely annoying with his passive aggressive bullshit that really balances out someof the good things about this show. Not much else on on Tuesdays so I'll stick with it.

[whataload]

Can't this show get out of Boston? That's what was so great the X-files, the stories took place all over the planet. I know Boston's a big city, but if all that weird stuff has been happening Boston all this time you'd think someone would've started investigating a long time before the agents in Fringe started.

[Archetype]

Huh, weird, so this is X-Files redux, and Burn Notice is MacGyver redux, I wonder if there's any others.

[Alcestis]

Interesting show.

About 10 minutes into the show, they show us tickets on for Oceanic Air and I found this Link (http://lost-theories.com/theories/2008/sep/18/flight-815-and-flight-627-abra/), regarding a flight mentioned at the end of the show.

Anyone else notice other LOST/Fringe interactions?

[InterningIsiah]

For those still watching,
Figure I'd bump it seeing that the first part of the season is finished and we won't get another episode for a couple months. I was meh on the show until the last episode, I'm glad the show is finally getting somewhere with the overall story arc. Of course though we are left with more questions than answers:

Does Agent Dunham actually have the powers or does Pacey?
Did Walter actually write the ZFT document?
What does Massive Dynamics Have to do with all of this?

[One Under]

I've liked it more and more, the last couple episodes being especially good. This break is at a terrible time, they were just getting into stride.

[Erased]

Yeah...this "break" is lasting until fucking April. Thank American Idol.

[InterningIsiah]

Good point, but the "break" couldn't have come at a worse time. I also heard the show was going to be filmed back in Toronto again, for monetary reasons.

[billy1980]

Ok the show aired allready and I cant find a f'in download for episode 15. Anyone have any RS links?

[Fiend1138]

Ok the show aired allready and I cant find a f'in download for episode 15. Anyone have any RS links?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/66310/fringe-inner-child

[Alcestis]

http://www.hulu.com/watch/66310/fringe-inner-child

Thanks. My dvr cut off the ending because of American Idol.

[lifeis11]

unbelievably, when i went to watch this from the tivo tonight, fucking american idol had run long, and the show cut out just as they were about to pull over the van. sigh, now i have to stream it later. . .

[Alcestis]

I learned my lesson, I reset my dvr "stop time", so Fringe will end 10 minutes later.

[lifeis11]

really liked tonight's episode! that creature was even sort-of decent cg for tv!

[Alcestis]

really liked tonight's episode! that creature was even sort-of decent cg for tv!

I agree. Trying to find a decent image of it.

Oh, and did anyone notice "the bald guy" again?

[VoxAngelikus]

Son of a bitch! Where was the bald guy? I didn't notice him.

This show has definitely grown on me. That means it'll probably get the axe.

[Alcestis]

Son of a bitch! Where was the bald guy? I didn't notice him.

This show has definitely grown on me. That means it'll probably get the axe.

The scene with the reporter in the neighborhood telling people to be watchful. He walked directly behind her and looked [ever-so-slighlty] at the camera.

[Erased]

really liked tonight's episode! that creature was even sort-of decent cg for tv!

Yeah it was pretty cool. I figured they would just show parts of it. I didn't expect them to show the whole creature at the end.

I agree. Trying to find a decent image of it.

Oh, and did anyone notice "the bald guy" again?

Nope, I didn't even notice I'm going to have to re-watch again.

[Alcestis]

Finally was able to watch this weeks episode, and strange is the best way to put it. Olivia is back to her emo/Gothic, greasy hair self.

Anyone else watch?

They need to fill in the gaps of Walters past, so we have an understanding of what exactly happened to "Olive" in Florida.

[Erased]

Finally was able to watch this weeks episode, and strange is the best way to put it. Olivia is back to her emo/Gothic, greasy hair self.

Anyone else watch?

They need to fill in the gaps of Walters past, so we have an understanding of what exactly happened to "Olive" in Florida.

Yeah, I was kind of confused at the end when walter was just sitting there watching that film. I wonder what that was all about? Unless I missed something which I might have, I didn't really pay awhole lot of attention this last episode, But like you said Lynn It was very strange.

[Fiend1138]

anyone catch the bald guy walk by... again?

[Alcestis]

Yeah, I was kind of confused at the end when walter was just sitting there watching that film. I wonder what that was all about? Unless I missed something which I might have, I didn't really pay awhole lot of attention this last episode, But like you said Lynn It was very strange.

When he was sitting there watching that old video, that was Olivia (child) and he could hear 'himself' talking. But, remember he had made comments that lead me to believe that only his colleague continued those experiments without him. So either he lied or suddenly remember what he had done, which (for him) has happened before.

[satandole666]

Anyone still watching this?

Just watched the most recent episode on Hulu. I've seen all the episodes and all I can say is about damn time. This show has tons of potential and is finally living up to it. The last episode was amazing.

[Erased]

Yeah, It's picked up quite a bit in my opinion. It's been picked up for a 2nd season. So it should only get better..I hope anyway...

[Erased]

Season Finale is tonight...I saw this on another television site I go to.

Link (http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/05/fringe-how-season-finale-will-change.html)

J.J. Abrams, co-creator and executive producer of Fox's sci-fi series Fringe, told reporters that tonight's season finale provides a "major turning point in the long-term arc of the series."

The episode, "There's More Than One of Everything," will feature the return of the mysterious David Robert Jones (Jared Harris), the disappearance of Walter Bishop (John Noble) and a scene between Olivia Dunham (Anna Torv) and William Bell (Leonard Nimoy), Walter's old partner and co-founder of Massive Dynamic. Abrams spoke during a conference call with reporters last Friday. The following are edited excerpts from the conversation. The season finale airs at 9 p.m. ET/PT.

Take us through the discussions that resulted in Leonard Nimoy coming on board for the season finale.

Abrams: I believe it began with an e-mail that I sent to him. No, no, here's what happened. I remember. I called him and just essentially started begging. I told him we were doing this show. He was familiar with it, but I don't think he'd seen it. He knew the show, and I basically explained that there was a critical character who had been mentioned throughout the first season, including the pilot, and it was a big deal for the show, not just where he came from and what his backstory was, but where he was going. And [I said] it'd be an obvious honor if he would consider playing the part. He was open to the idea, but he wanted, of course, to see the show and read some pages. So we sent him everything that we could, and I was thrilled when he called back, and he thought it was intriguing and interesting. That was how we actually ended up getting him to return to the role of Spock in Star Trek, where we told him the idea, pitched him the thing, and his response was interest and intrigue, and I knew that was a good sign.

What can you tell us about the season finale?

Abrams: I can tell you that in the story of Fringe it is the end of one chapter and the beginning of another. If you look at this show as a series of stand-alone episodes, I think it even works in that regard, but because we're trying to do both—have a show that you can tune into any time and get a Fringe fix or you watch regularly and sort of ride the wave of the overall story, and see how things connect and fit together that you might not otherwise expect to—this feels like it is definitely one of the tentpole episodes in the mythology of the show. The first season really was about the setup of this world, the characters, their roles, their jobs, and as the show went on I think we got more of a handle on their interactions and getting a sense of the rhythms of the show. But this is really a massive turning point in the long-term arc of the series.

Olivia [Anna Torv] really seemed to lighten up a little bit as the show progressed. In general, how much did you have planned in advance, and how much of what we've seen was simply the show finding itself as you went along?

Abrams: We actually had a surprising amount planned in broad strokes, but the crazy thing is, as you work on it, you start to get resistance, not from an actor, not from a director or even other writers on the show, but a show just sort of defines its shape in a strange way. One of the things I love about the show is the inherent humor in the insanity of it. If the show takes itself too seriously, then I'm afraid people will laugh at it, but if the show has humor inside of it, then the show itself is embracing and admitting to the preposterous nature of many of the episodes and stories. I love preposterous stories. My favorite movies, if you look at Jaws or Alien or Tootsie, ... there are movies that if you describe the story, you go, "What? All right. OK." But done well, you go, "Oh, my God, that was the greatest ride ever." So, for me, the humor did, I think, increase as the season went on.

I think things like bringing in Olivia's sister [Ari Graynor] began to give her at least opportunities to be warmer to someone. She's a character who admitted in the show that she doesn't really have friends. So I think the story for Olivia over the course of time is one of a guarded, protective woman who, over time, is in a sense forced to be more vulnerable. And you'll see, something definitely happens next year. But it is an evolution for her.

If we were to say that season one was about meeting the characters and the characters meeting the enemy, how might you describe what you're planning for season two?

Abrams: I would say, yeah, I think the first year was about, not seeing the enemy, but getting to at least understand that there is an enemy. I would actually argue that, in a way, season two is getting to know the enemy. Season one is identifying that there is an enemy and really getting to know each other. But I think that as the show progresses what you'll see in the second season is that it's building to a very specific type of confrontation, and I think you'll see that there will be a really interesting shift in the fundamental paradigm of the show at the beginning of next season, in a very cool way.

Without going into any details about it, it has a kind of fun, fresh way in next year that I think is ... you never know how it's going to work. You just cross your fingers and pray people like it, but I feel like it's one of those next-season beginnings that feel thrilling to me in a way that's more than just "Oh, I can't wait for them to come back." It's "I can't wait for them to experience what we're doing and for them to come back this way." I know I'm being insanely vague, but I would say the excitement is not just now in these characters knowing each other, but it's with playing with that a little bit.

[Candycane]

I've been up and down on this. I feel they've dropped so many story lines and forgotten about them. I love me some JJ so we'll see whats to come.

[VoxAngelikus]

I've been watching this since about mid-way through the season and I have been quite impressed. The season finale was awesome... the whole alternate universe concept is cool as shit, and the two mindfuck twists at the end definitely have me glad the show is coming back for another season.

I've been up and down on this. I feel they've dropped so many story lines and forgotten about them. I love me some JJ so we'll see whats to come.

CC, they tied up a couple of story lines in the finale, like the guy who teleported from the German prison

[Erased]

I've been watching this since about mid-way through the season and I have been quite impressed. The season finale was awesome... the whole alternate universe concept is cool as shit, and the two mindfuck twists at the end definitely have me glad the show is coming back for another season.

I 2nd this...

[VoxAngelikus]

Did you notice the newspaper that Olivia sees on the table before she meets Spock William Bell?

"Former President Kennedy to Address U.N."
"Celtics Sweep: Len Bias MVP"
"Stock Markets Remain Closed: 21 Days & Counting"

and my favorite:

"OBAMAS SET TO MOVE INTO NEW WHITE HOUSE"

So.... 9/11 in reverse in the parallel world? Or what?

Also, the paper cost .25, so exactly what time is she even in? Very trippy.

[Erased]

I didn't notice that stuff, I did notice the Obama thing though. I was half awake when I watched it, i'm probably going to go back sometime today and re-watch it again.

[Soup Nazi]

Did you notice the newspaper that Olivia sees on the table before she meets Spock William Bell?

"Former President Kennedy to Address U.N."
"Celtics Sweep: Len Bias MVP"
"Stock Markets Remain Closed: 21 Days & Counting"

and my favorite:

"OBAMAS SET TO MOVE INTO NEW WHITE HOUSE"

So.... 9/11 in reverse in the parallel world? Or what?

Also, the paper cost .25, so exactly what time is she even in? Very trippy.

Len Bias would be 45 now! Unless it is a trippy pre-9/11 or something.......

[VoxAngelikus]

This thread has 4 pages of responses.... the Real World/Road Rules challenge has 10 and counting. That's fucking gay.

[MDiver01]

so I'm guessing what Walter acutally went through for was peter and no the mother? Is that why he doesnt remember the coin?

[Fiend1138]

yep.