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Report: Manny faces 50-game penalty
Major League Baseball is expected to announce Thursday that Los Angeles Dodgers (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=lad) outfielder Manny Ramirez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=2974) has tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs and will be suspended for 50 games, The Los Angeles Times is reporting.
Ramirez's test result and suspension are expected to be announced Thursday, The Times said.
Triple-A outfielder Xavier Paul has been told by the Dodgers that he will be promoted later today, according to The Times.
In his first full season as a Dodger, Ramirez is batting .348 with six home runs and 20 RBIs. Los Angeles has bolted to a 21-8 record -- best in the majors -- and a 13-0 record at home that set the modern major league record for home winning streak to start a season.
ruffdog
05-07-2009, 11:12 AM
baseball is gay
CTricksterGirl
05-07-2009, 11:13 AM
My brother is such a die hard Dodgers fan that when I called him at work to tell him, he started throwing shit in his break room....WTF
redsox39
05-07-2009, 11:14 AM
Just Manny being Manny!
wacker
05-07-2009, 11:17 AM
Everyone is on drugs.
BiōHazard
05-07-2009, 11:17 AM
HAHA. GOOD JOB MANNY. Ya fucking douchebag.
CTricksterGirl
05-07-2009, 11:17 AM
Isn't he a little too flabby to be a roider? I mean, he just seems too squishy
Draven X 23
05-07-2009, 11:22 AM
Bwahahahahahahahaha!
What a tool.
Celtickliq
05-07-2009, 11:25 AM
So based on the announcement coming out and the suspension at 50 games, it means Manny tested positive before no?
CTricksterGirl
05-07-2009, 11:26 AM
1/3 of his $25 million contract....you think he will even miss it?
Snatch
05-07-2009, 11:27 AM
1/3 of his $25 million contract....you think he will even miss it?
He might miss going to the HOF, if it comes to that.
redsox39
05-07-2009, 11:31 AM
So based on the announcement coming out and the suspension at 50 games, it means Manny tested positive before no?
No, I think 50 games is the 1st offense now.
He might miss going to the HOF, if it comes to that.
Fuck every writer directly in the ass who keeps someone out for PED use.
CTricksterGirl
05-07-2009, 11:35 AM
Bitter about A-Rod eh?
Bitter about A-Rod eh?
Hank Aaron and Mike Schmidt and countless others took amphetamines, an entire generation of Hall of Famers if not more.
Players as early as Hank Aaron's era were taking steroids and HGH, yet somehow writers pretend it all started with Jose Canseco in the late 80s.
Don Drysdale, Gaylord Perry, and many others threw the illegal spitball long after it was banned. That pitch is basically the only way Perry is in the HoF.
King Kelly and many others cheated in a variety of in game ways like cutting the basepaths.
Bobby Thomson's "Shot Heard Round the World" ("The Giants win the pennant! The Giants win the pennant!") came on a Giants team that would later be discovered to have been stealing signs with a guy with a telescope in the stands. Not a HoFer, but one of the most beloved and remembered highlights of all time came amidst cheating.
Many older players such as Babe Ruth got testosterone boosts from natural animal sources, not cheating but a similar performance enhancing effect.
Selective morality is stupid morality.
BIG PIZZLE
05-07-2009, 11:42 AM
Baseball suck.
hatepoppy
05-07-2009, 11:43 AM
pizzle douchebag.
fuldstændigamok
05-07-2009, 11:49 AM
They pay people 25millions a year to play baseball????
Celtickliq
05-07-2009, 11:49 AM
Now that Manny is off the list, all that I need is Jeter to come out and we can put this steroids thing to rest.
}{arlequin
05-07-2009, 12:07 PM
red sox are laughing
Kerjack
05-07-2009, 12:10 PM
They pay people 25millions a year to play baseball????
I'm more blown away that even though he can't play 50 games he still gets to keep 3/4 of 25 million dollars
Shit, I wish I got paid 18.75 million to NOT preform my job.
ruffdog
05-07-2009, 12:18 PM
whats an illegal spitball?
whats an illegal spitball?
It's a spitball. A pitch where spit is used to alter the way in which a ball leaves the hand of a pitcher and it's path through the air. It's been banned in MLB for a long long long time.
I might be in the minority, but Manny getting popped doesn't surprise me at all
mongo
05-07-2009, 01:36 PM
i am not surprised either.
big papi is next.
redsox39
05-07-2009, 01:38 PM
red sox are laughing
yes, yes we are!
Soup Nazi
05-07-2009, 01:38 PM
To add insult to injury, he tested positive for the use of a female fertility drug.
Ouch.
BiōHazard
05-07-2009, 02:02 PM
To add insult to injury, he tested positive for the use of a female fertility drug.
Ouch.
I just read that it was a sex enhancer hahahahah.
ShitBreak
05-07-2009, 02:09 PM
I'm getting conflicting stories. One saying it was a drug that roiders use once they come off a cycle (female fertility), and the other was a Viagra-like substance.
Either way...way to be a retard.
Now let the thing die, before they start getting ancy and try to find something on the only true awesome player left: The Machine.
Pharon
05-07-2009, 02:17 PM
This is just a big misunderstanding. Manny thought those were tic tacs.
Menace2Sobriety
05-07-2009, 02:22 PM
:(:(:(
Papi and Pujols both go down before the season is out.
ShitBreak
05-07-2009, 02:26 PM
No one cares about Papi anymore since he can't hit shit.
But Pooge is off to a torrid start. They'll start digging on him as much as they can.
Rover
05-07-2009, 02:29 PM
Manny's just trying to make a baby.
Lone Wolf
05-07-2009, 02:38 PM
Damnit Manny.
It would make me happy if it turned out to be pot
Edit: if it turns out to be a sexual inhancer it would be even better though
Manny's just trying to make a baby.
This would actually make sense for Manny
mxlplkt
05-07-2009, 02:40 PM
I bet he did it on purpose so he didn't have his normal mid season "I'm bored with this game attitude"
Every game counts now!
He needed more free time in LA
mongo
05-07-2009, 02:56 PM
i'm starting to think benji molina is roiding. 7 dongs so far this year? gtfo!
The GWD
05-07-2009, 02:58 PM
How exactly does a women's fertility drug enhance your game, anyways?
mongo
05-07-2009, 03:02 PM
it's what you use when you're coming off a roids cycle.
CTricksterGirl
05-07-2009, 03:03 PM
Gives you a better sense of how to handle balls?
I dunno, I figured it would hurt since most women are emotionally retarded crazy bitches, so if he struck out, I figured he'd go eat a pint of Ben and Jerry's and cry about how he has so much love to give
ShitBreak
05-07-2009, 03:07 PM
It brings your testosterone levels back down to normal quickly.
It's like balancing out an acid with a base. You balance out testosterone with estrogen, or whatever the fuck bitches have.
Vaginas. They have vaginas, Mike
Hanover Fist
05-07-2009, 03:13 PM
I have a feeling that this will make baseball lean more and more toward a 1 and done policy with regards to illegal substances. They way they were talking on ESPN just now about this, they seemed to think it would head that way anyway.
I would strongly support a decision that went to a 1 violation and receive a lifetime ban myself.
Would the players union ever agree to it, though?
Hanover Fist
05-07-2009, 03:20 PM
Would the players union ever agree to it, though?
I guess it depends on if there are a higher percentage of players doping or a higher number not doping. The ones that play clean are going to get tired of continually being lumped in with guys that are dirty, you can sense that frustration with a lot of the players comments that were made today regarding Manny. At some point they are going to have to realize that in order for them to be looked at as seriously addressing the problem they will have to go to a 1 and done policy. No more leniency. The clean players will support it and the dirty ones won't, I think it will just come down to that.
The players are the union, if they decide enough is enough, then it is within their power to make it happen. Until they do, they will always be considered suspect.
I hear ya. I mean, I'm all for it. But for it to be a "1 and done", I just don't see that being ratified at the moment. Unless there was some way to guarantee it's just for known steroid use. There at some point will actually be someone who flunks a test and it's not right.
One and done is too much, IMO.
And yes, estrogen and other things are used to come off steroid cycles and sometimes as masking agents.
Mustard
05-07-2009, 03:48 PM
Mark McGwire is next.
Lone Wolf
05-07-2009, 03:49 PM
I love how a lot of the initial reaction on a lot of the stuff read so far want a one and done rule in baseball. I'd rather see a one and your team can opt out of it's contract.
Isn't he a little too flabby to be a roider? I mean, he just seems too squishy
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo64/bigbossbizz/2edqot2.png
ShitBreak
05-07-2009, 03:52 PM
I hear ya. I mean, I'm all for it. But for it to be a "1 and done", I just don't see that being ratified at the moment. Unless there was some way to guarantee it's just for known steroid use. There at some point will actually be someone who flunks a test and it's not right.
Exactly. I mean, lets say for instance, Manny HAD gotten this suspension due to Viagra.
Should I guy really be banned for life for making his rod hard?
Hanover Fist
05-07-2009, 04:01 PM
Exactly. I mean, lets say for instance, Manny HAD gotten this suspension due to Viagra.
Should I guy really be banned for life for making his rod hard?
Viagra isn't on the banned list last I checked, so no he wouldn't have even received a suspension.
TheImpossibleMan
05-07-2009, 04:02 PM
i'm starting to think benji molina is roiding. 7 dongs so far this year? gtfo!
That's nothing, you take 7 dongs in a night, routinely.
mongo
05-07-2009, 04:02 PM
why don't we just let everyone roid? who cares?
TheImpossibleMan
05-07-2009, 04:03 PM
Oh and a 1-and-done policy is retarded.
Mustard
05-07-2009, 04:08 PM
The punishment for roiding in any sport should be having one year of your salary set on fire in a public display at the home court/field you play at. So in this case, they truck out a pallet with his one year salary in $100 bills and make him watch as a guy in a black executioner hood sets fire to it.
Serious. The idea is so retarded it might just work.
Hanover Fist
05-07-2009, 04:08 PM
Oh and a 1-and-done policy is retarded.
Why is that?
Cheaters who knowingly cheat should be given more chances, while people who don't cheat have to keep on being lumped in with them? Fuck that, people who think 1 and done is too harsh are fucking retarded.
Mustard
05-07-2009, 04:13 PM
Why is that?
Cheaters who knowingly cheat should be given more chances, while people who don't cheat have to keep on being lumped in with them? Fuck that, people who think 1 and done is too harsh are fucking retarded.
Yeah, I hear that. 1 and done is fine with me, as long as it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't an accidental roiding...
You know, like you were just getting injected by your brother with some vitamins, but he switched it on you and gave you roids instead, because he's just so evil like that.
Oh lawd...
TheImpossibleMan
05-07-2009, 04:13 PM
why don't we just let everyone roid? who cares?
Because if MLB starters get to use steroids, the shitty bench players will have to take roids just to remain shitty bench players. Naturally talented guys like Pujols will have to take roids to remain competitive. Players in AAA will have to take roids if they ever want to make the majors, and collegiate and high school players would have to take roids just to make the minors. Steroids are incredibly bad for your health, and if you make them legal you force players who are gifted enough to compete on their own merits to wreck their bodies just to keep their jobs, and it creates a trickle down effect that leads to high schoolers wrecking their bodies in order to compete.
Das Kahlua
05-07-2009, 04:16 PM
Hank Aaron and Mike Schmidt and countless others took amphetamines, an entire generation of Hall of Famers if not more.
Players as early as Hank Aaron's era were taking steroids and HGH, yet somehow writers pretend it all started with Jose Canseco in the late 80s.
Don Drysdale, Gaylord Perry, and many others threw the illegal spitball long after it was banned. That pitch is basically the only way Perry is in the HoF.
King Kelly and many others cheated in a variety of in game ways like cutting the basepaths.
Bobby Thomson's "Shot Heard Round the World" ("The Giants win the pennant! The Giants win the pennant!") came on a Giants team that would later be discovered to have been stealing signs with a guy with a telescope in the stands. Not a HoFer, but one of the most beloved and remembered highlights of all time came amidst cheating.
Many older players such as Babe Ruth got testosterone boosts from natural animal sources, not cheating but a similar performance enhancing effect.
Selective morality is stupid morality.
But wasn't Manny running around saying that MLB could test him anytime for anything, since he knew he was clean and wasn't worried about failing a drug test?
Or was that Pujols?
misterfatt
05-07-2009, 04:19 PM
Because if MLB starters get to use steroids, the shitty bench players will have to take roids just to remain shitty bench players. Naturally talented guys like Pujols will have to take roids to remain competitive. Players in AAA will have to take roids if they ever want to make the majors, and collegiate and high school players would have to take roids just to make the minors. Steroids are incredibly bad for your health, and if you make them legal you force players who are gifted enough to compete on their own merits to wreck their bodies just to keep their jobs, and it creates a trickle down effect that leads to high schoolers wrecking their bodies in order to compete.
so basically what you're saying is—nothing will change?
TheImpossibleMan
05-07-2009, 04:19 PM
Why is that?
Cheaters who knowingly cheat should be given more chances, while people who don't cheat have to keep on being lumped in with them? Fuck that, people who think 1 and done is too harsh are fucking retarded.
1.) There are over one hundred players in baseball right now on roids. A lot of them are superstars. Ban them all and the quality of play in the league takes an incredible dive. An incredible dive in talent combined with fan resentment over some players (the fan favorites) getting banned and the amount of interest in baseball in the country will plummet. Revenue will dry up and teams will fold. A 1-and-done policy could literally mean the end of Major League Baseball.
2.) So some fresh-out-of-high schooler in A ball caves under the pressure and takes steroids. Is he a menace to the game? Will the game really be better off if he's banned for life? A 1-and-done policy denies players a chance to learn from their mistakes.
3.) The players union will never agree to it anyways, so suggesting it is just a waste of time.
Das Kahlua
05-07-2009, 04:21 PM
1.) There are over one hundred players in baseball right now on roids. A lot of them are superstars. Ban them all and the quality of play in the league takes an incredible dive. An incredible dive in talent combined with fan resentment over some players (the fan favorites) getting banned and the amount of interest in baseball in the country will plummet. Revenue will dry up and teams will fold. A 1-and-done policy could literally mean the end of Major League Baseball.
2.) So some fresh-out-of-high schooler in A ball caves under the pressure and takes steroids. Is he a menace to the game? Will the game really be better off if he's banned for life? A 1-and-done policy denies players a chance to learn from their mistakes.
3.) The players union will never agree to it anyways, so suggesting it is just a waste of time.
Many people claim that they want to know who did what when regarding steroids, but like you said a lot of people are currently on them and even more were on them sometime in their careers, if the full scope of who took steroids came out, a lot of people would be disillusioned with the game.
Too many records would be in question, and it would take away from people being able to just enjoy the game.
TheImpossibleMan
05-07-2009, 04:22 PM
so basically what you're saying is—nothing will change?
Well, instead of a minority of players taking steroids, nearly 100% will be on them, and the same will be true of college, the minors, high school, etc. And anyways, it's about operating from a position of moral authority.
misterfatt
05-07-2009, 04:29 PM
Well, instead of a minority of players taking steroids, nearly 100% will be on them, and the same will be true of college, the minors, high school, etc. And anyways, it's about operating from a position of moral authority.
you're naive to think that players (pro athletes in general, not just baseball players) roiding and using PEDs are in the minority.
the MLB/PED saga is such a farce. the league, from the commissioner and owners, all the way down to the beat writers and fans, stood by idly while the drug and drug users they are now persecuting saved the league from fading away.
Rover
05-07-2009, 04:33 PM
Because if MLB starters get to use steroids, the shitty bench players will have to take roids just to remain shitty bench players. Naturally talented guys like Pujols will have to take roids to remain competitive. Players in AAA will have to take roids if they ever want to make the majors, and collegiate and high school players would have to take roids just to make the minors. Steroids are incredibly bad for your health, and if you make them legal you force players who are gifted enough to compete on their own merits to wreck their bodies just to keep their jobs, and it creates a trickle down effect that leads to high schoolers wrecking their bodies in order to compete.
1.) There are over one hundred players in baseball right now on roids. A lot of them are superstars. Ban them all and the quality of play in the league takes an incredible dive. An incredible dive in talent combined with fan resentment over some players (the fan favorites) getting banned and the amount of interest in baseball in the country will plummet. Revenue will dry up and teams will fold. A 1-and-done policy could literally mean the end of Major League Baseball.
2.) So some fresh-out-of-high schooler in A ball caves under the pressure and takes steroids. Is he a menace to the game? Will the game really be better off if he's banned for life? A 1-and-done policy denies players a chance to learn from their mistakes.
3.) The players union will never agree to it anyways, so suggesting it is just a waste of time.So you admit that taking steroids is incredibly bad for your general health and a causes the level of play to be skewed.
But then.....
you say that a 1 and done policy would destroy baseball.
So what's the solution? Let them all 'roid until they get caught and then suspend them for 50 games. That doesn't sound like much of a solution. How many players has MLB already suspended for 50 games? I know it's at least a handful. And Manny's still out there 'roiding it up. I guess he just didn't have the incentive to not juice.
And the player's union would agree to a 1 and done ban. They'd lose a public relations war. You cannot be on the side of arguing that steroids is okay to use. The owners would hit them with every highschool kid whose death is linked to steroids.
People already have little work-related sympathy for billionaire athletes. I doubt they'd get anymore once they're portrayed as "drug abusing, billionaire athletes"
If the owners did a work stoppage based around a desire to rid their sport of illegal drug usage, they'd win. Congress would fully support them. The only question is whether the owners would have the fortitude to lose money by cancelling games.
I doubt it.
Him and Sosa. One will remain quiet, the other will forget English.
Then SI can re-do that SMOTY cover where they were dressed like Greek Gods
So you admit that taking steroids is incredibly bad for your general health and a causes the level of play to be skewed.
But then.....
you say that a 1 and done policy would destroy baseball.
So what's the solution? Let them all 'roid until they get caught and then suspend them for 50 games. That doesn't sound like much of a solution. How many players has MLB already suspended for 50 games? I know it's at least a handful. And Manny's still out there 'roiding it up. I guess he just didn't have the incentive to not juice.
And the player's union would agree to a 1 and done ban. They'd lose a public relations war. You cannot be on the side of arguing that steroids is okay to use. The owners would hit them with every highschool kid whose death is linked to steroids.
People already have little work-related sympathy for billionaire athletes. I doubt they'd get anymore once they're portrayed as "drug abusing, billionaire athletes"
If the owners did a work stoppage based around a desire to rid their sport of illegal drug usage, they'd win. Congress would fully support them. The only question is whether the owners would have the fortitude to lose money by cancelling games.
I doubt it.
50 games is the first step. You get banned pretty quickly.
Rover
05-07-2009, 04:43 PM
50 games is the first step. You get banned pretty quickly.I agree with MLB's incremental punishment. I just don't think that the first penalty is punitive enough.
Currently for steroids, it's:
1st: 50 games
2nd: 100 games
3rd: lifetime
That just seems to give some incentive to try it the first time and you only get punished 1/3 of the season.
I'd rather see it as:
1st: 1 year
2nd: 3 years
3rd: lifetime
I'd be willing to bet that Manny wouldn't juice if he thought the rest of his career was going to be over if he tested positive.
BiōHazard
05-07-2009, 04:44 PM
I propose a FULL season ban(160+ games no matter where in the season they are caught) for first offense. 2 seasons for repeat and then lifetime for 3.
Edit: Rover you are on my level.
Hanover Fist
05-07-2009, 05:39 PM
I propose a FULL season ban(160+ games no matter where in the season they are caught) for first offense. 2 seasons for repeat and then lifetime for 3.
Edit: Rover you are on my level.
Okay, maybe I would go with that instead of a 1 and done. It just seems as though for the most part the financial punishment isn't enough. Sure Manny will lose $8 million, but he still stands to make what? $35 million or something? Not much of a punishment really.
Draven X 23
05-07-2009, 10:08 PM
To add insult to injury, he tested positive for the use of a female fertility drug.
Ouch.
Manny being Mommy?
He most likely learned everything from Albert Belle.
Draven X 23
05-07-2009, 10:11 PM
I'm getting conflicting stories. One saying it was a drug that roiders use once they come off a cycle (female fertility), and the other was a Viagra-like substance.
Either way...way to be a retard.
Now let the thing die, before they start getting ancy and try to find something on the only true awesome player left: The Machine.
From what Jayson Stark says its supposed to be both.
He was taking a -- what? -- a female fertility drug? Why? Maybe he just wanted to marry the octo-mom. Ya got me.
I've read through all the prescribed uses I could find online for human chorionic gonadotropin (similar to Clomid), which ESPN.com is reporting is the drug in question. And let me tell you -- I'm almost 100 percent certain that Manny wasn't suffering from an inability to ovulate. Or polycystic ovarian syndrome. And if he was, there's a lot more he hasn't been telling us than what really went on in those bizarre final days in Boston.
If you read more extensively about this drug, though, you'll learn that it IS occasionally used to address male infertility. Except if you read the small print, you'll also learn that, according to sharedjourney.com:
"The FDA has not approved the use of Clomid in men, nor has it been found to be especially effective."
Great. So why would a doctor be prescribing it for a guy like Manny, then?
Hanover Fist
05-07-2009, 10:22 PM
On a side note I just read that Manny was one of the names that Canseco had originally outed as being a 'roider that of course everyone called him a liar and every other name in the book.
Has Canseco been proven wrong on any of those claims yet?
Menace2Sobriety
05-08-2009, 07:33 PM
Steroids are incredibly bad for your health
X
Only if they're abused.
X
Only if they're abused.
And the use of them by baseball players for personal muscle growth, not overseen by a legitimate doctor, is abuse.
Swurgen
05-08-2009, 08:35 PM
And the use of them by baseball players for personal muscle growth, not overseen by a legitimate doctor, is abuse.
It's abuse of baseball. Not necessarily abuse of steroids.
Did you see all the people at the Jose Canseco press conference?
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq249/mrgr8shagxxx/ept_sports_mlb_experts-717691723-12.jpg
Genius
05-08-2009, 09:10 PM
Manny on a female fertility drug = end of the world as we know it, Manny's entire career completely tarnished.
Shawn Merriman busted for legit steroids = barely a blip on the radar, no one even remembers six or seven games later.
I'd rather listen to six more months of Brett Favre speculation that this shit. And no matter what, Manny Ramirez is the best right-handed hitter I've seen in my lifetime.
CunningRunt
05-08-2009, 09:54 PM
MLB needs a clearing house where the players can call up to see if a particular drug is banned. I think the NCAA uses this for player eligibility. This way the players can't say they didn't know.
Manny on a female fertility drug = end of the world as we know it, Manny's entire career completely tarnished.
Shawn Merriman busted for legit steroids = barely a blip on the radar, no one even remembers six or seven games later.
I'd rather listen to six more months of Brett Favre speculation that this shit. And no matter what, Manny Ramirez is the best right-handed hitter I've seen in my lifetime.
*cough* Frank Thomas *cough* Albert Pujols
Hanover Fist
05-10-2009, 07:32 AM
Well fuck, after Manny gets nabbed then lo and behold Jeremy Mayfield was popped and suspended indefinitely by NASCAR for violating the substance abuse policy, but little was I too know that the biggest and most sad shoe to drop was still to come.
I'm left speechless by this one, is there anyone or anything in professional sports that isn't doped up these days?
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/horse/news/story?id=4151479&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
hatepoppy
05-10-2009, 11:05 AM
MLB needs a clearing house where the players can call up to see if a particular drug is banned. I think the NCAA uses this for player eligibility. This way the players can't say they didn't know.
already in place, chuck.
CunningRunt
05-17-2009, 07:04 PM
already in place, chuck.
I don't know about that pops.
hatepoppy
05-17-2009, 07:08 PM
the fuck are you saying, you sack of bitch?
CunningRunt
05-19-2009, 07:44 PM
the fuck are you saying, you sack of bitch?
I don't think MLB has a clearing house for steriods. Unless you can prove me wrong, that's what the fuck I'm saying.
hatepoppy
05-19-2009, 07:52 PM
I don't think MLB has a clearing house for steriods. Unless you can prove me wrong, that's what the fuck I'm saying.
first article i could google in a half second.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-congress011308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Congress calls, and baseball must answer
By Jeff Passan (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/expertsarchive;_ylt=A9G_bxTqUxNKt_EAjQkHU84F?autho r=Jeff+Passan), Yahoo! Sports
January 13, 2008
http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/cn/headshots/jeffpassan.jpg (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/expertsarchive;_ylt=A9G_bxTqUxNKt_EAjwkHU84F?autho r=Jeff+Passan)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/p/yse_lo_70x24_2.gif (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/sports/yhoo/mlb/article/SIG=11daaeced;_ylt=A9G_bxTqUxNKt_EAjgkHU84F/*http%3A//sports.yahoo.com/top/expertscorner)
Major League Baseball's latest fusillade against performance-enhancing drugs came this week with the creation of its Department of Investigations. One of the tools at the investigators' disposal will be a hotline. Unfortunately, 1-800-STEROID is taken by the National Steroid Research Center and 1-800-JUICERS by some ladies who just want to have a good time.
At least 1-800-CLEMENS is available.
hatepoppy
05-19-2009, 08:00 PM
apparently they just put in a bitch hotline, as well. so faggots like claydon can snitch to the big wigs that jordan schafer is cheating.
CunningRunt
05-19-2009, 08:08 PM
apparently they just put in a bitch hotline, as well. so faggots like claydon can snitch to the big wigs that jordan schafer is cheating.
That's not the same as a clearinghouse for players. I'm saying they need a line that players can call to clear a drug with MLB, for the sake of open disclosure. What you are talking about is a hotline for club employees.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080111&content_id=2343864&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
"The hotline will be available to Club employees regarding potential violations of MLB's rules and policies, including the use, possession or distribution by players or employees of prohibited substances, any conduct in violation of Major League Rule 21 (i.e., betting on baseball), or any other conduct that concerns the integrity of the game."
hatepoppy
05-19-2009, 08:14 PM
players can call just as easily as anyone. the players are club employees.
so are you looking for a way players can out themselves, or a way for them to make sure their shit is clean?
Hanover Fist
06-10-2009, 08:04 AM
So Manny did apparently test positive for steroids and not the female hormone thing. He tested at 4x the acceptable level of steroids in his system. The reason they were saying it was the female fertility drug is because he had a prescription for that, but it wasn't what was found in his system. So even though he was conclusively nailed for cheating and using PED's he still won't admit it and take responsibility for his actions. I just look at how Giambi handled his situation and how the public basically forgave him and he was able to remain playing without the cloud that hangs over all these liars. For christ's sake Manny, you got fucking caught, just man up and don't keep trying to bullshit the fans.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090609&content_id=5230854&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
The 37-year-old Ramirez said in a statement when the suspension was issued that he was given a banned medication (human chorionic gonadotropin, a female fertility drug) by a doctor for a medical condition. Ramirez could have applied for a "therapeutic use exemption," but he did not.
Anti-doping experts said the absence of hCG in Ramirez's drug test, coupled with the 50-game suspension MLB handed down, indicated that the Dodgers outfielder used steroids, according to a report in the Los Angeles Times.
HCG -- not a steroid but a substance banned by MLB's drug policy -- was not found in his system. But a prescription for the drug was found in medical files that were turned over to MLB after Ramirez's drug test during Spring Training showed a synthetic testosterone level four times normal for an average male. Ramirez reportedly dropped an appeal because the prescription was conclusive evidence of a violation.
Ramirez would not address any of that. He said he continues his morning workouts, which included running the bases for the first time Tuesday.