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Morfin
06-18-2009, 09:46 AM
Bozeman City job requirement raises privacy concerns

Applying for a job with the City of Bozeman? You may be asked to provide more personal information than you expected.

That was the case for one person who applied for employment with the City. The anonymous viewer emailed the news station recently to express concern with a component of the city's background check policy, which states that to be considered for a job applicants must provide log-in information and passwords for social network sites in which they participate.

The requirement is included on a waiver statement applicants must sign, giving the City permission to conduct an investigation into the person's "background, references, character, past employment, education, credit history, criminal or police records."

"Please list any and all, current personal or business websites, web pages or memberships on any Internet-based chat rooms, social clubs or forums, to include, but not limited to: Facebook, Google, Yahoo, YouTube.com, MySpace, etc.," the City form states. There are then three lines where applicants can list the Web sites, their user names and log-in information and their passwords.

The requirement raises questions concerning applicants' privacy rights.

Article 2, Section 10 of the Montana Constitution reads "the right of individual privacy is essential to the well-being of a free society and shall not be infringed without the showing of a compelling state interest."

"So, we have positions ranging from fire and police, which require people of high integrity for those positions, all the way down to the lifeguards and the folks that work in city hall here. So we do those types of investigations to make sure the people that we hire have the highest moral character and are a good fit for the City," Sullivan said.

We're not putting out this broad brush stroke of trying to find out all kinds of information about the person that we're not able to use or shouldn't use in the hiring process," Sullivan said.

When asked about creating a separate Bozeman Facebook page, then asking applicants to add the City as "friend," thus allowing the City to view the applicant's profile, Sullivan said officials could explore the option. This would limit the city to only view the page of the applicant.

No one has ever removed his or her name from consideration for a job due to the request, Sullivan added.Link (http://montanasnewsstation.com/Global/story.asp?S=10551414&nav=menu227_3)

I believe Obama did this -- not with the passwords, but just wanting to know what social networks applicants belonged to. Regardless, this is an invasion of privacy.

If they are worried about potential embarrassment, what is next, asking what bars they hang out in, who their friends are? Talk about a puritanical witch-hunt.

Limp
06-18-2009, 09:48 AM
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Login: Limp
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redsox39
06-18-2009, 09:51 AM
http://forum.gorillamask.net

Login: Limp
Password: FUCKNIGG3RS

LIAR!

Kerjack
06-18-2009, 02:10 PM
I r not amused.

Morfin
06-18-2009, 02:27 PM
I see from your av that you've got you "angry eyes" on. R you not amused at the thread or Bozeman's actions?

Das Kahlua
06-18-2009, 02:27 PM
If I'm living in Bozeman, Montana, I'm sure as hell going to be using all sorts of online social network sites, or using hardcore recreational drugs, something to pass the time in a place where it snows 12 months out of the year.

hatepoppy
06-18-2009, 02:28 PM
I see from your av that you've got you "angry eyes" on. R you not amused at the thread or Bozeman's actions?
i figured it was bc limp didnt give him the right pass.

Kerjack
06-18-2009, 02:31 PM
I see from your av that you've got you "angry eyes" on. R you not amused at the thread or Bozeman's actions?

Bozeman's actions. In fact I might have to put my robo eyes on.

mdaddyrabbit
06-18-2009, 02:41 PM
This situation is going a bit too far, regular application and criminal background check should be sufficient. I would not not be applying for a job with anyone that needed to dig that far into my life. We are slowly losing our rights any way, atleast with these people we have a choice, apply and give up info or don't apply and not have someone in your business.

Maybe someone should send them a personal invite to GMF so that some of you guys who give me a hard time could give em hell. LOL!

Morfin
06-18-2009, 02:47 PM
While you're here, gringo, we don't need no stinking Bozeman.

Kerjack
06-18-2009, 06:16 PM
It is bad enough they want to know what social networking sites you use, but to ask for your Passwords? That is a truckload of shit and lawsuits waiting to hit the fan.

Skybase
06-18-2009, 06:39 PM
I'm just going to get this out of the way.

I love having sex with young children, animals both before and after I gut them for sport, hate n|gg's, in'juns, wetty-backs n' asians. I'd sleep with my boss, my bosses children and my bosses parents. .all at the same time. Regardless of their will to do so. I've probably got interests in some foreign community that conflicts with our country's best interests. . .

Hmm, I miss anything? Oh yes and because I don't want Kerjack to have a chance either so I have to admit that he participates also in every one of these activities along with me.

Genius
06-18-2009, 06:40 PM
The second someone tests this, it will lose.

Cornelius
06-19-2009, 01:06 AM
They should quit worrying about this dumb shit and start doing a better job keeping track of their utilities. Fucking city is worried about peoples moral character, when they have entire city blocks randomly exploding?
I call shenanigans.

Morfin
06-19-2009, 08:51 AM
Apparently Bozeman isn't the only city concerned about employees embarrassing them.

City Workers Ordered to Wear Underwear

Thinking about a vacation? Be sure to consider Brooksville, Florida (pop. 8,000). In addition to everything else Brooksville has to offer -- three city parks, a nine-hole golf course, and "an excellent library" -- Brooksville can now assure visitors that each and every one of its city employees will be wearing underwear while on duty.

We've Covered Our Wounds! The city council of Brooksville, voted recently to overhaul its personnel policies, and as part of that it approved a new dress code. After consulting with "a number of sources," city officials and attorneys came up with a series of guidelines that they hope will improve the government's "public image." Some idea of the government's current public image might be gleaned from what they felt it necessary to have the new code deal with:

* underwear is now required;
* employees must use deodorant;
* no halter tops or Spandex at work;
* no skirts worn "below the waistline";
* no other clothing that may be "distracting, offensive or revealing";
* only ears may be visibly pierced; and, perhaps most disturbingly,
* all cuts or wounds must now be covered.

Fighting for the great American tradition of going commando at work was the city mayor, Joe Bernardini, who was the only member of the council to vote against underwear. He expressed concern over how the new code could be enforced, while also getting a headstart on being charged with harassment: "They said you had to wear undergarments," the mayor was quoted as saying, "but who's going to be the judge of that? Sometimes when it comes to certain people going bra-less, it's obvious. But who's staring to see if that person doesn't have underwear on?" Well, probably everybody will be now, Mr. Mayor. I would advise "certain people" to show up in a burqa for a while.

This is apparently the second time the Brooksville council has tried to establish a dress code. The first time was in 1996. "Men have it hard enough just to do a day's work and not be enticed by a woman who is not dressed properly . . . . If you have to bend over for the bottom file . . . that would entice any man, unless he is not completely a man." These truly progressive sentiments were expressed by council member Mary Staib, who was unable to get anyone to second her motion at the time. Link (http://www.loweringthebar.net/2009/06/city-workers-ordered-to-wear-underwear.html)

redsox39
06-19-2009, 09:34 AM
Men have it hard enough just to do a day's work and not be enticed by a woman who is not dressed properly . . . . If you have to bend over for the bottom file . . . that would entice any man, unless he is not completely a man.

I like Mary...there's just something about her...

Das Kahlua
06-19-2009, 11:08 AM
Apparently Bozeman isn't the only city concerned about employees embarrassing them.

These cities are right to not want their employees to embarrass them. They're doing a good enough job of that themselves.

HAWK
06-19-2009, 03:08 PM
Apparently Bozeman isn't the only city concerned about employees embarrassing them.

Link (http://www.loweringthebar.net/2009/06/city-workers-ordered-to-wear-underwear.html)

That's not even the same thing. Dress code and personal hygiene are acceptable regulations pertaining to employees.

Stax
06-19-2009, 03:10 PM
Link (http://montanasnewsstation.com/Global/story.asp?S=10551414&nav=menu227_3)

I believe Obama did this -- not with the passwords, but just wanting to know what social networks applicants belonged to. Regardless, this is an invasion of privacy.

If they are worried about potential embarrassment, what is next, asking what bars they hang out in, who their friends are? Talk about a puritanical witch-hunt.

How is it an invasion of privacy? Random citizens don't have a right to just apply for a job and get it without review. I'm as much a privacy nut as the next guy, but I understand that when I apply for a job I have 2 choices:

1. Comply with the wishes of the company/state in order to get the job.
2. Don't fucking apply.

Morfin
06-24-2009, 09:33 AM
Bozeman apologizes, backs down over Facebook login request

The city of Bozeman, Montana has decided to back off on its requirement that job applicants hand over their logins and passwords for every social network they belong to. The city announced in a meeting (PDF) on Monday that it had suspended the practice as of Friday, June 19 and that it would update its hiring procedures within 30 days to determine a more appropriate level of screening for employees. Link (http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/06/bozeman-apologizes-backs-down-over-facebook-login-request.ars)

Kerjack
06-24-2009, 09:47 AM
Well they are still idiots but good.