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banethejuggalo
08-14-2008, 11:48 PM
Start It Up!
mongo
08-14-2008, 11:50 PM
living legends - classic
papillon
08-14-2008, 11:52 PM
Tha Blue Carpet Treatment
http://rapidshare.com/files/137225955/SD_-_BCTreatment.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/137226133/SD_-_BCTreatment.part2.rar
Dragon
08-14-2008, 11:54 PM
Sugar Hill Records Story (5 Discs)
runlive
08-15-2008, 12:19 AM
2pac - all eyez on me
Spanky
08-15-2008, 01:37 AM
http://www.usemenow.com/web-log/zipzaprap.jpg
muthastone
08-15-2008, 08:28 AM
Some of my fav's:
Ready to Die
The Blueprint
Aquemini
Does anybody have 2 essential rap albums supposedly by Joe Pesci and Macho Man Randy Savage?
Revolver
08-15-2008, 09:37 AM
http://i35.tinypic.com/1expnl.jpg
banethejuggalo
08-15-2008, 11:56 AM
Its barely been out but Tech N9ne's Killer
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z59/diels36/Killer_12a-1.jpg
paignful
08-15-2008, 12:50 PM
ready to die is pretty much the gold standard
others in the team photo
low end theory
southernplaylisticcadilacfunkymusic (sp)
straight outta compton
fear of a black planet
the chronic
doggystyle
whut the album
enter the 36 chambers
Poop Sailboat
08-15-2008, 03:35 PM
Dr. Dre "The Chronic"
Hulud
08-19-2008, 09:26 PM
one of my faves that hasnt been mentioned yet is "Wrath of the Math" by Jeru the Damaja. produced by DJ Premier, fucking excellent!
Uknowiphat
08-20-2008, 02:29 PM
http://www.usemenow.com/web-log/zipzaprap.jpg
signed
redsox39
08-20-2008, 02:34 PM
2pac - all eyez on me
I second the motion, All eyez on me.
Genius
08-20-2008, 03:52 PM
My 5 favorite:
Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever
Bone Thugs & Harmony - The Art of War
Biggie - Life After Death
Eric B. and Rakim - Paid in Full
I also loved T.I vs. T.I.P. from last year. But I have to give it some time to settle.
Fuh Q
08-20-2008, 03:57 PM
Gotta be The Blueprint for me, id say illmatic, but its only 9 tracks or something so its unfair to compare it to other full length albums.
I can't pick one so I'll list my favs so far (no particular order):
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/Reasonable_Doubt_New.jpg
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Wu-TangClanEntertheWu-Tangalbumcover.jpg
Redman - Whut¿ Thee Album
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/Whuttheealbum.jpg
Cappadonna - The Pillage
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Cappapillage.jpg
Nas - Illmatic
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/NasIllmatic.jpg
Outkast - ATLiens
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c6/Outkast-atliens.jpg
Cunninglynguists - Southernunderground
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2d/Southernunderground1.jpg
Nappy Roots - Watermelon, Chicken, and Grits
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/Watermelon%2C_Chicken%2C_and_Grits.jpg
T.I. - King
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/King_(album).jpg
I'll probably have more to add later because of JT and others introducing me to underground hip hop.
sdale4life
08-21-2008, 05:55 AM
Ready to Die- BIG
sdale4life
08-21-2008, 05:56 AM
I also thoroughly enjoyed the new Kanye Album
Francis Drake
08-21-2008, 06:56 AM
Aesop Rock - Labor Days
Wu Tang - Enter the 36 Chambers
Hulud
08-23-2008, 01:13 AM
http://i34.tinypic.com/o9fxty.jpg
http://www.plong.com/MusicCatalog%5CC%5CClipse%20-%20Hell%20Hath%20No%20Fury%5CClipse%20-%20Hell%20Hath%20No%20Fury.jpg
http://images14.fotosik.pl/100/120dad0ad3399195.jpg
Billy
08-23-2008, 04:55 AM
Got to go with Pac -> All Eyez on Me
best album just to relax to, with no other real redeeming value.... K-Dee -> Ass Gas or Cash
FarEastFornicator
08-23-2008, 07:21 AM
I remember going to Sam Goody and snatching this up as it was flying off the shelves.
http://i37.tinypic.com/azdn9t.jpg
followed closely by doggystyle...
FarEastFornicator
08-23-2008, 07:26 AM
Fuck I forgot about est 1999
three50zoom
08-26-2008, 03:08 AM
WORD!
Tech n9ne - Killer
Dre - 2001
Wayne - The Drought 1,2,3
Wayne - The Carter 1,2,3
ALL BIG TYMERS ALBUMS
Sir Droopy
08-31-2008, 01:10 AM
Master rhymer & probably the best ever DJ & MC combo ever
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/SirDroopy_2006/pif.jpg
teamusa
09-03-2008, 04:10 PM
Reasonable Doubt-Jay-Z
BeefCakes71
09-03-2008, 04:12 PM
Ice Cube - Death Certificate
NotAllBlack
09-03-2008, 04:27 PM
Man I still love Str8 outta compton. Cyprus Hill had a good on. I know they arent gold standards but they are my favs
runlive
09-03-2008, 11:54 PM
midnight marauders has to be in the top ten
FlipHKD
09-04-2008, 12:01 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yuGx2p_Kpck/Ri1zgR-VF1I/AAAAAAAAAJQ/YDYt_f0OAZE/s1600/Ready%2Bto%2BDie.jpg
vs.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yuGx2p_Kpck/Ri1qYh-VFlI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/3lGQrzH2NGo/s1600/Madvillainy.jpg
vs.
http://www.hiphop.gr/subjects/world/KanyeWest_LateRegistration_cover.jpg
Also: Another competitor arrives
http://z.about.com/d/rap/1/0/G/-/-/-/Nas-Illmatic.jpg
Plus My nomination for best hip hop album
http://passionweiss.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/waleseinfeld_main.jpg
(even though its not necessarily an album) He is changing the game for sure.
Huggie Smiles
09-04-2008, 07:55 AM
Dr. Dre "The Chronic"
Even thought the early 80's may have been historical in terms of bringing rap to the world - it was this album that took everything up 10 notches -
gonna be hard to beat!
eightkid
09-04-2008, 11:11 AM
Method Man and Redman----BLACKOUT
bigbk915
09-04-2008, 03:41 PM
Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
InterningIsiah
09-04-2008, 03:52 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/Cocca/gerardo_cd_cover2.jpg
Heeellllllooooooooo
jimdog99
09-04-2008, 04:25 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/27/Projectfunkdaworld.jpg/200px-Projectfunkdaworld.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Projectfunkdaworld.jpg)
BillyZoom
09-06-2008, 11:39 AM
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions
Archangel
09-06-2008, 12:20 PM
Nation of Millions. No contest.
Followed by, in no order:
Ready to Die
Straight outta Compton
Liquid Swords
Cuban Linx
The Infamous
The Chronic
Paid in Full
Raising Hell
Blueprint (both Jay and KRS)
Road to the Riches
Illmatic
Mecca & The Soul Brother
Doggystyle
Stress: The Extinction Agenda
AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
Me against the World
36 Chambers
Step in the Arena
Strictly Business
Things Fall Apart
http://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/snoop-doggy-dogg-doggystyle.jpg
http://www.plong.com/MusicCatalog%5CJ%5CJay-Z%20-%20The%20Blueprint%5CJay-Z%20-%20The%20Blueprint.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/rap/1/5/G/-/-/-/Nas-Illmatic.jpg
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006JJ51.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Cypress_Hill-Black_Sunday.jpg
http://rapidshare.com/files/128080022/fh-jen.part5.rar
evilash
09-06-2008, 06:05 PM
http://www.geocities.com/solistokanu/creepinonahcomeup_big.jpg
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008GQEO.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
http://www.plong.com/MusicCatalog%5CW%5CWu-Tang%20Clan%20-%20Wu-Tang%20Forever%5CWu-Tang%20Clan%20-%20Wu-Tang%20Forever.jpg
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc79/redskinrun/its_on_dr_dre_187um_killa_b00000dhs.jpg
Just adding a few I haven't seen.
Aesop Rock - Labor Days
G & E - No more greener grass
Little Brother - The listening
3MGs - Grand caravan to the rim of the world
Atmosphere - Lucy Ford EP
Company Flow - Fantastic Damage
FarEastFornicator
09-06-2008, 06:32 PM
There is like only 8 tracks on Creepin on a Come up and the songs get old after the first listen.
nuclearjew
09-06-2008, 06:33 PM
Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonacolygist
evilash
09-06-2008, 07:55 PM
There is like only 8 tracks on Creepin on a Come up and the songs get old after the first listen.
Doesn't matter. I don't get tired of them. E. 1999 was great and better produced, but I really liked Creepin on a Come Up because of the dark sound and feel the album had. I even like some of the songs on Faces of Death. Creepin' was really the first hip hop album that I got into (Besides anything by the Beastie Boys) and I have good memories of getting high as a kite listening to them flow. It's just my opinion, if you like E. 1999 better for whatever reason, then cool.
iKnowJohnStamos
09-06-2008, 09:13 PM
36 Chambers...
Ready to Die is also amazing
Malone
09-06-2008, 09:13 PM
3 Feet High and Rising - De La Soul
Illmatic - Nas
Ready To Die - BIG
Paid In Full - Eric B. & Rakim
ElvisWong
09-21-2008, 07:04 PM
I don'like rap music !!!! Rap is fucking shit music for ever
BIG PIZZLE
09-21-2008, 07:14 PM
GTFO.
Billy
09-22-2008, 12:24 PM
GTFO.
YellowFever
09-23-2008, 12:07 AM
I'm going with 2Pac All Eyez on Me just because its the ONLY rap double album with quality songs ON BOTH DISCS
CaptainCockslap
09-23-2008, 03:58 PM
Slick Rick "The Great Adventures Of Slick Rick"
Boogie Down Productions "Criminal Minded"
Ultramagnetic Mc's "Critical Beatdown"
The Pharcyde "Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde"
Black Moon "Enta Da Stage"
A Tribe Called Quest "Midnight Marauders"
Souls Of Mischief "'93 'Til Infinity"
Gangstarr "Hard To Earn"
Gangstarr "A Moment Of Truth"
Non Phixion "The Future Is Now"
Black Sheep "A Wolf In Sheeps Clothing"
Dr.Octagon "Dr.Octagonacologyst"
Various Artists "Soundbombing II"
Company Flow "Fundcrusher Plus"
just some I haven't seen mentioned yet... how can you decide what the best album of all time is? it's all matter of opinion
Yelram
09-23-2008, 04:14 PM
Tupac - Me Against the World.
Molotov
09-23-2008, 04:50 PM
Straight Outta Compton - NWA
CrzyMarcX
09-23-2008, 04:58 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Gametheorycover.jpg
patcooper
09-23-2008, 05:02 PM
nwa- niggaz4life
The Batman
09-23-2008, 05:22 PM
Vanilla Ice - To the Extreme.
just kidding.
Notorius BIG - Ready to Die
ElvisWong
09-23-2008, 06:57 PM
I don'like rap music !!!! Rap is fucking shit music for ever
My apologise about my comment. I try to cause a talk.
Sorry again !!!:)
patcooper
09-23-2008, 06:58 PM
Vanilla Ice - To the Extreme.
just kidding.
Notorius BIG - Ready to Die
overated his second one was alot better.
Archangel
09-23-2008, 06:59 PM
overated his second one was alot better.
Um, no.
Genius
09-23-2008, 07:06 PM
I like Life After Death better too, but it was pretty much the first rap record I embraced. Otherwise, there's quite a bit of bullshit that could have been cut out of the it. BIG only made a double because Tupac did.
patcooper
09-26-2008, 05:10 PM
Um, no.
umm yes, the beats on ready to die were nothing special, they all sounded the same, the album was a good record yes and he was a new artist and had great storytelling lyrics and flow. i'm not putting biggie down i like the album just not his best work. but life after death had much better production and sounded like a well produced machine.
hatepoppy
09-26-2008, 05:12 PM
limp bizkit's 3 dolla bill.
nuffsed.
CaptainCockslap
09-26-2008, 05:24 PM
umm yes, the beats on ready to die were nothing special, they all sounded the same, the album was a good record yes and he was a new artist and had great storytelling lyrics and flow. i'm not putting biggie down i like the album just not his best work. but life after death had much better production and sounded like a well produced machine.
you have to be kidding... "Ready To Die" had Big Poppa, Gimme Da Loot, Juicy, Everyday Struggle, Me And My Bitch, Machine Gun Funk, Suicidal Thoughts and the infamous Who Shot Ya. "Life After Death" had so much filler it's crazy. Not to mention it's where we were unfortunately introduced to Mase (unless you were a fan of Murda Mase from his Children Of The Corn days). The only thing that was really special was the 2 Premier produced tracks "Kick In The Door" and "10 Crack Commandments".
taters
09-26-2008, 05:58 PM
I cant say for everyone, but UGK - Supertight was probably the most popular album during the period of its release in texas. Yes, there were other popular albums, but this one had no video, no tv reference and barely any radio play (and the play that got on was a version of the song that didnt even make it on the album).
Archangel
09-26-2008, 06:09 PM
you have to be kidding... "Ready To Die" had Big Poppa, Gimme Da Loot, Juicy, Everyday Struggle, Me And My Bitch, Machine Gun Funk, Suicidal Thoughts and the infamous Who Shot Ya. "Life After Death" had so much filler it's crazy. Not to mention it's where we were unfortunately introduced to Mase (unless you were a fan of Murda Mase from his Children Of The Corn days). The only thing that was really special was the 2 Premier produced tracks "Kick In The Door" and "10 Crack Commandments".
What he said, although I'd add RZA's Long Kiss Goodnight to the list. I also liked Nashiem Myrick's work on What's Beef?.
And the beats on Ready to Die "nothing special"? Put the crack pipe down. I Shot Ya might be one of the greatest beats ever, while Unbelieveable is some of Primo's best work of the period. Things Done Changed is thumpin', too.
The problem with rap from '96 to about 2001 was that idiotic double album craze, which was mainly just done because SoundScan counted a double album as two CD sales. So you could sell 250,000 units and still talk about going gold. All Eyez on Me, Life after Death, Wu-Tang Forever, Art of War etc could have been some of the most densely packed records ever if people had made one 16-18 track CD. As it is, there are songs on those albums I haven't heard more than once. Oh, and whatever made Jay-Z make that double Blueprint 2 album needs to be hunted down and killed.
Archangel
09-26-2008, 06:10 PM
Also, didn't Ma$e have a guest appearance on Big L's '94 album?
Justabot
09-26-2008, 06:14 PM
De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
Run DMC - King Of Rock
Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
CaptainCockslap
09-26-2008, 06:23 PM
Also, didn't Ma$e have a guest appearance on Big L's '94 album?
He was but that's why I made sure to reference Children Of The Corn as they were both in that group together along with McGruff and Killa Cam.
patcooper
09-26-2008, 06:37 PM
you have to be kidding... "Ready To Die" had Big Poppa, Gimme Da Loot, Juicy, Everyday Struggle, Me And My Bitch, Machine Gun Funk, Suicidal Thoughts and the infamous Who Shot Ya. "Life After Death" had so much filler it's crazy. Not to mention it's where we were unfortunately introduced to Mase (unless you were a fan of Murda Mase from his Children Of The Corn days). The only thing that was really special was the 2 Premier produced tracks "Kick In The Door" and "10 Crack Commandments".
what about
somebodys got to die
fuck you tonight
whats beef
mo money
i got a story to tell
going back to cali
player hater
skys the limit
my downfall
and yes i was a fan a mase. i met mase several times in harlem back in the 90's and he was cool.
patcooper
09-26-2008, 06:43 PM
What he said, although I'd add RZA's Long Kiss Goodnight to the list. I also liked Nashiem Myrick's work on What's Beef?.
And the beats on Ready to Die "nothing special"? Put the crack pipe down. I Shot Ya might be one of the greatest beats ever, while Unbelieveable is some of Primo's best work of the period. Things Done Changed is thumpin', too.
The problem with rap from '96 to about 2001 was that idiotic double album craze, which was mainly just done because SoundScan counted a double album as two CD sales. So you could sell 250,000 units and still talk about going gold. All Eyez on Me, Life after Death, Wu-Tang Forever, Art of War etc could have been some of the most densely packed records ever if people had made one 16-18 track CD. As it is, there are songs on those albums I haven't heard more than once. Oh, and whatever made Jay-Z make that double Blueprint 2 album needs to be hunted down and killed.
Rolling Stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stone) described the beats as "heavy bottomed and slick," enhancing the lyrics but not standing in their own right.
The production is mainly sample (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_%28music%29)-based with the samples varying from the percussion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percussion) of funk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funk_music) tracks to the vocals of hip hop songs. Steve Huey presented some criticism over the beats, stating that the "deliberate beats do get a little samey, but it hardly matters: this is Biggie's show
yeah i guess im not the only one who need to lay down the crack pipe.
CaptainCockslap
09-26-2008, 07:12 PM
Rolling Stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stone) described the beats as "heavy bottomed and slick," enhancing the lyrics but not standing in their own right.
The production is mainly sample (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_%28music%29)-based with the samples varying from the percussion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percussion) of funk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funk_music) tracks to the vocals of hip hop songs. Steve Huey presented some criticism over the beats, stating that the "deliberate beats do get a little samey, but it hardly matters: this is Biggie's show
yeah i guess im not the only one who need to lay down the crack pipe.
Way to quote Rolling Stone because they KNOW hip hop!?!? I'm a rep the days of Ready To Die and just call you a herb.
Archangel
09-27-2008, 04:18 AM
All right, and next time, I'll make sure to quote XXL when we're talking about The Who or Jimi Hendrix.
Rolling Stone, what the fuck.
Also, half the tracks you listed are pop. Don't get me wrong, I like Mo' Money and Sky's the Limit, and I fucking love I Love the Dough, but that's just standard Diddy/Hitmen '80s-sample pop beats. Yes, Ready to Die had Big Poppa and Juicy, but at least it wasn't as played out back then.
Also, that quote shows perfectly what went wrong with rap in the late '90s. With a lyricist like Big, the beats are fucking SUPPOSED TO complement and enhance the lyrics, not drown them. Dre Aside, 'Pac never had really high-profile beat makers. Ras Kass or Chino XL had maybe two good beats in their entire careers. Primo and Alchemist always tailor their beats to complement the lyricists. Listen to a Primo beat for MOP, and one for, say, Common.
I mean, the sole focus on beats that can (and did) stand alone is what fucking gave us Lil Jon and Lil Wayne, for crying out loud.
Billy
09-27-2008, 04:38 AM
I'm surprised that Arch has such a fascination with Biggie. I enjoy Biggie's sound and ability as much as the next guy, but I would have figured that Arch would have been a fan of an artist with more depth to his lyrics. Somehow I just can't picture him debating the intellectual merits of '10 crack commandments' or 'I've got a story to tell'.
I'm surprised that Arch has such a fascination with Biggie. I enjoy Biggie's sound and ability as much as the next guy, but I would have figured that Arch would have been a fan of an artist with more depth to his lyrics. Somehow I just can't picture him debating the intellectual merits of '10 crack commandments' or 'I've got a story to tell'.
This coming from the guy who said 2 pac - all eyes on me was his favorite album? You still on that east coast vs west coast bullshit? When will the fighting end?
Billy
09-27-2008, 05:00 AM
Pac is from New York
Archangel
09-27-2008, 07:01 AM
I'm surprised that Arch has such a fascination with Biggie. I enjoy Biggie's sound and ability as much as the next guy, but I would have figured that Arch would have been a fan of an artist with more depth to his lyrics. Somehow I just can't picture him debating the intellectual merits of '10 crack commandments' or 'I've got a story to tell'.
But I can definitely argue the lyricism of I Shot Ya or Things Done Changed. "Depth" per se does not a lyricist make. Gabriele D'Annunzio was nowhere as "deep" as, say, Giovanni Pascoli was, but as a pure lyricist, he kicked Pascoli's arse all over the place.
Rappers enamored of their own "depth" also tend to be fucking boring. I mean, I love Ras Kass, Killah Priest, Black Thought and those guys, but I can't bleeding stand, say, M-1. Public Enemy did some deep & conscious stuff, but they knew that you also had to be entertaining and that the beat had to be funky.
Plus, when I look for depth, I've got other sources than rap lyrics.
patcooper
09-27-2008, 07:59 AM
All right, and next time, I'll make sure to quote XXL when we're talking about The Who or Jimi Hendrix.
Rolling Stone, what the fuck.
Also, half the tracks you listed are pop. Don't get me wrong, I like Mo' Money and Sky's the Limit, and I fucking love I Love the Dough, but that's just standard Diddy/Hitmen '80s-sample pop beats. Yes, Ready to Die had Big Poppa and Juicy, but at least it wasn't as played out back then.
Also, that quote shows perfectly what went wrong with rap in the late '90s. With a lyricist like Big, the beats are fucking SUPPOSED TO complement and enhance the lyrics, not drown them. Dre Aside, 'Pac never had really high-profile beat makers. Ras Kass or Chino XL had maybe two good beats in their entire careers. Primo and Alchemist always tailor their beats to complement the lyricists. Listen to a Primo beat for MOP, and one for, say, Common.
I mean, the sole focus on beats that can (and did) stand alone is what fucking gave us Lil Jon and Lil Wayne, for crying out loud.
rollingstone gave ready to die 4.5 stars.every critic loved it,that doesnt make it the greatest ever. so i guess your saying they are not credible, they dont know hiphop? rollingstone is not just a rock magazine.
Archangel
09-27-2008, 08:08 AM
So? The Source gave Ready to Die less mics (back when they still meant something) than they gave Life after Death, yet later admitted that they were wrong.
I like Life after Death. It IS a great record, and more to the point, it's a far more polished product than Ready to Die. But "polished" doesn't necessarily mean better, especially in hip-hop. I mean, this is a genre that produced a song called Rugged neva Smoove, and where one of its greatest pioneers said the words "Smooth - not what I am/Rough - 'cause I'm a man"; Ready to Die is far more raw than its successor. De gustibus non est disputandum and all that, but in a genre that celebrates grittiness, I prefer the raw stuff.
Why do you think 36 Chambers is such a classic?
Bill Paxton
09-27-2008, 08:26 AM
Little Bow Wow - Beware of Dog
patcooper
09-27-2008, 10:05 AM
So? The Source gave Ready to Die less mics (back when they still meant something) than they gave Life after Death, yet later admitted that they were wrong.
I like Life after Death. It IS a great record, and more to the point, it's a far more polished product than Ready to Die. But "polished" doesn't necessarily mean better, especially in hip-hop. I mean, this is a genre that produced a song called Rugged neva Smoove, and where one of its greatest pioneers said the words "Smooth - not what I am/Rough - 'cause I'm a man"; Ready to Die is far more raw than its successor. De gustibus non est disputandum and all that, but in a genre that celebrates grittiness, I prefer the raw stuff.
Why do you think 36 Chambers is such a classic?
ok i hear ya. i think life after death is a lot more clean and polished sounding. if that makes sense.
CaptainCockslap
09-27-2008, 01:15 PM
To end the argument, "Ready To Die" had Gimme The Loot. "Life After Death" didn't. 'Nuff said!
"*****, you ain't got to explain shit / I been robbin' motherfuckas since the slave ship"
patcooper
09-27-2008, 01:29 PM
To end the argument, "Ready To Die" had Gimme The Loot. "Life After Death" didn't. 'Nuff said!
"*****, you ain't got to explain shit / I been robbin' motherfuckas since the slave ship"
Two pointblank a motherfucker's sure to die
http://www.guerrillapop.com/images/wordtoyourmotha.jpg
Hobnail_Boot
09-29-2008, 05:19 AM
Outkast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
2Pac - All Eyez On Me
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggy Style
Biggie - Ready To Die
Hobnail_Boot
09-29-2008, 05:38 AM
Those are all decent albulms except for 2dead. Weak in comparison to the real shit though.
Company Flow, Mr. Lif, Dilated Peoples, Edan.
Commercial stuff is watered down overrated and appreciated by the foolish 85%.
That's my top 5 in that order. It wasn't a debate.
Archangel
09-29-2008, 05:44 AM
Those are all decent albulms except for 2dead. Weak in comparison to the real shit though.
Company Flow, Mr. Lif, Dilated Peoples, Edan.
Commercial stuff is watered down overrated and appreciated by the foolish 85%.
And a helluva lot of the underground stuff is boring as hell and appreciated only by anal retentive losers.
I mean, I love Jedi Mind Tricks, J-Zone, 7L and Esoteric, Dilated, Ras Kass, Chino XL and such, but that preachy whingey élitist "we're so much better than you" underground shit just bores the fuck out of me.
Def Jux can kiss my arse.
Hobnail_Boot
09-29-2008, 05:45 AM
Here are a few of my other favorites, all southern rap:
The other Outkast albums except that dreadful movie soundtrack
8Ball & MJG - Coming Out Hard
Geto Boys - We Can't Be Stopped
T.I. - I'm Serious
Goodie Mob - Soul Food (and their other albums except World Party--just terrible)
Archangel
09-29-2008, 05:45 AM
Geto Boys kicked righteous arse.
Archangel
09-29-2008, 05:47 AM
I mean, underground notwithstanding, how the fuck is Ready to Die not "the real shit"?
Archangel
09-29-2008, 05:50 AM
And I know that greatest hits compilations shouldn't count, but GODDAMN if Gang Starr's Full Clip doesn't bang like hell.
I called myself "underground" when I was young and still getting into the scene. I did a lot of hating on commercial rap. Then when I got older I realized good music is good music whether it gets radio play or not.
A lot of underground artists dont even like the term. Its as much of a pigeonhole as the mainstream image is.
I like Kanye, what?
Archangel
09-29-2008, 05:56 AM
Also, everybody who says that they prefer riding the subway to driving a Mercedes is lying.
Mainstream artists ARE capable of maintaining good taste.
Can't mention Gangstarr without this man.
http://www.djpremier.org/pictures/dj-premier-07.jpg
Tenpinger
10-01-2008, 08:31 AM
Ready To Die
cowboy dan
10-03-2008, 12:57 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Wu-TangClanEntertheWu-Tangalbumcover.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/AqueminiOutKast.jpg
dirtbag
10-18-2008, 11:49 AM
Co-Signs on Aquemini.
I love 36 chambers-
But i listen to it now and realize the styles and sound are too raw. I still love it and it may one of the most important hip hop albums but it is not among the best.
Rumpleforeskin
10-18-2008, 12:14 PM
I have to go with the All Eyez on Me crowd.
hishiad
11-16-2008, 12:52 AM
Seems a good spot to hit this up.
I use to have a fairly sweet system in my car and a few CDs with some heavy hitting rap, I've lost the system, car, and CDs...so now I'm trying to find the songs again.
So can anyone give me some albums/artist/songs to look at? (I'm asking here cause of the rules for new threads requiring certain permissions).
Related to this topic:
Best Rap Album to me would be 2Pac - All Eyez on Me
but big fan of Outkast and Snoop.