Obama losing some upport among nervous Dems

[tockit]

Obama losing Some support among Nervous Dems
By BETH FOUHY (AP)
July 18, 2009

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j4PYGKun8FwQE1yOv3xp0SYIgM9AD99GNCF00

NEW YORK — Could it be that President Barack Obama's Midas touch is starting to dull a bit, even among members of his own party?

Conservative House Democrats are balking at the cost and direction of Obama's top priority, an overhaul of the nation's health care system. A key Senate Democrat, Max Baucus of Montana, complains that Obama's opposition to paying for it with a tax on health benefits "is not helping us."

Another Democrat, Rep. Dan Boren of Oklahoma, tells his local newspaper that Obama is too liberal and is "very unpopular" in his district.

From his first days in office, Obama's popularity helped him pass the landmark $787 billion stimulus package and fueled his ambitious plans to overhaul the nation's health care system and tackle global warming.

Obama continues to be comparatively popular. But now recent national surveys have shown a measurable drop in his job approval rating, even among Democrats. A CBS news survey out this week had his national approval rating at 57 percent, and his standing among Democrats down 10 percentage points since last month, from 92 percent to 82 percent.

With the economy continuing to sputter and joblessness on the rise, many of Obama's staunchest Democratic supporters are anxious for his agenda to start bearing fruit.

"We are eager and impatient, so you're seeing a little bit of that," said Chris Redfern, chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party. "Elections have results, and those in the base are the most anxious to achieve what's promised in the election. That's why Democrats are showing some impatience in reaching our goal."

Obama won Ohio, a key swing state, by 4 percentage points in 2008 over Republican John McCain. But the one-time industrial powerhouse has been hit hard by the weak economy, and a Quinnipiac University poll released this month showed Obama with a lackluster approval rating of 49 percent.

Redfern argued that the stimulus program has begun to show tangible results in his state and people shouldn't expect the economy to turn around instantly.

A similar argument came from Nevada, another swing state Obama carried. Las Vegas City Councilman Steve Ross counseled patience, saying that voters in his state want Obama to succeed and that their support would be solidified once they saw stimulus-driven building projects under way.

"Generally, folks in Nevada are waiting to see the effects of the stimulus package," Ross said. "I think the president is probably just as impatient to get this money out in the country to employ people as anyone."

In Missouri, which Obama narrowly lost to McCain, Democratic strategist Steve Glorioso said hardcore base voters were as enthusiastic as ever for Obama but that there was a sense of disappointment about him among less committed Democrats and independents.

"People are scared," Glorioso said. "This is the worst economic time anyone under the age of 80 has ever experienced, and you can't discount people being afraid. Now that we are in July, the fear is turning to disappointment that the president hasn't fixed everything yet. I don't know why they thought he could change everything by now, but some did."

Glorioso said an open Senate race next year in Missouri, where Democrat Robin Carnahan is likely to face former Republican Rep. Roy Blunt, will be a crucial test of Obama's appeal.

"If the economy gets better and they pass a reasonable health care bill, his popularity will be way back up and Carnahan will win," Glorioso said. "If none of that happens, it's a moot point."
In Michigan, where the near-collapse of the auto industry has driven the unemployment rate to 14.1 percent, the nation's worst, the state's Democratic chairman, Mark Brewer, said support for Obama among Democrats has remained strong.

"People are very worried and concerned, I don't want to dispute that," Brewer said. "But they voted for the president in overwhelming numbers and want to support the things he's trying to do."

Obama traveled to Michigan this week to unveil a $12 billion program to help community colleges prepare people for jobs. There, he made an audacious declaration.
"I love these folks who helped get us in this mess and then suddenly say, 'Well, this is Obama's economy,'" the president said. "That's fine. Give it to me!"

Redfern, the Ohio Democratic Party chairman, said he welcomed that statement but cautioned it came with a price.

"When it's the president's economy, it's the president's trouble," Redfern said. "Americans are eager for the change that they voted into office. They support him, they just want to see results sooner rather than later."

[Stax]

Could also be that the Honeymoon is over, as happens with every president. I imagine that is the reason for his national numbers. As for the states like Ohio, yup, they want results and don't have em yet (it's a short fuse, but understandable-if-unreasonable given their situation)

[tockit]

Could also be that the Honeymoon is over, as happens with every president. I imagine that is the reason for his national numbers. As for the states like Ohio, yup, they want results and don't have em yet (it's a short fuse, but understandable-if-unreasonable given their situation)
Could be the Honeymoon is over,

OR it could be the fact that BHO has, and continues to advocate, putting us in more debt than all the previous presidents in the history of our nation combined, during the worst economic downturn since the great depression,

AND he has yet to deliver on anything he campaigned on.

[freegood]

This is an obvious test on his competency and credibility. I expect him to pass something, but unsure to the extent that he will compromise.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0709/Health_reform_foes_plan_Obamas_Waterloo.html?showa ll

Health reform foes plan Obama's 'Waterloo'
Conservative leaders will push delay any vote on health care reform until after the August recess to capitalize on what they say is a growing tide of opposition to reform measures, they said on a conference call with "tea party" participants today.

"I can almost guarantee you this thing won't pass before August, and if we can hold it back until we go home for a month's break in August," members of Congress will hear from "outraged" constituents, South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint said on the call, which was organized by the group Conservatives for Patients Rights.

"Senators and Congressmen will come back in September afraid to vote against the American people," DeMint predicted, adding that "this health care issue Is D-Day for freedom in America."

"If we’re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo. It will break him," he said.

The founder of Conservatives for Patients Rights told the 104 participants in the call, which was organized to coincide with the National Tea Party Patriots group's protests at the offices of members of Congress today, that polling suggests majorities oppose a "government take-over," which is how Scott's group casts the Obama plan.

Rep. Mike Pence, also on the call, also said the tide is turning.

"Every single day more dems are expressing op to government-run health care," he said.


OR it could be the fact that BHO has, and continues to advocate, putting us in more debt than all the previous presidents in the history of our nation combined, during the worst economic downturn since the great depression,


It's unfair and uneducated to criticize him for both the "worst economic downturn..." and for his massive deficit spending when economists from both spectrums have advocated for increased spending to counter a countracting economy.

Oh well.

[Stax]

Could be the Honeymoon is over,

OR it could be the fact that BHO has, and continues to advocate, putting us in more debt than all the previous presidents in the history of our nation combined, during the worst economic downturn since the great depression,

AND he has yet to deliver on anything he campaigned on.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

32 done, 10 compromise-done, and 78 in the works (to 7 broken, and some of those somewhat ceremonial like "Recognize the Armenian genocide")? Not to shabby, IMO.

[Genius]

Holy shit! He's losing upport! Fuck! Wait, what the fuck is upport?

[Claydon]

democrats are historically the biggest pussies that wither in the face of a cloudy sky.

except for kennedy and johnson, and i barely consider them democrats.

[tockit]

It's unfair and uneducated to criticize him for both the "worst economic downturn..." and for his massive deficit spending when economists from both spectrums have advocated for increased spending to counter a countracting economy.

Oh well.
I don't blame BHO for the economic downturn.....yet, but so far, he sure hasn't done us any favors while trying to get us out of it.


He has the printing presses at the Federal Reserve working around the clock printing worthless money, which at some point will most likely end up skyrocketing inflation.

He's trying to bankrupt us with all of his various programs and bailouts, TARP, Obamacare, etc, etc.

Much of the worthless or borrowed money is being spent on earmarks which will do absolutely nothing to stimulate our economy, but will continue to grow the deficit.

He's growing the government at an alarming rate, nationalizing all sorts of industries.

And he's either raised or is trying to raise taxes across the board to fund his programs.


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out this stuff can't be good for the economy.


Carter tried many of these same policies during his term and look at the mess that got us into.


As for Stax's post about BHO's promises, it all depends on where you get your information, and if his first 100 days are any indication of whats to come, Obama could give Bill Clinton a run for his money in the lying department:


Obama’s Top Five Broken Promises (http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/03/03/kerpen_obama_budget/)


By Phil Kerpen
Director of Policy, Americans for Prosperity (http://www.americansforprosperity.org)

Promise #5: Sunlight Before Signing

What he said:
“Too often bills are rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them. As president, Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.” (BarackObama.com campaign Web site (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/))

What he did:
Obama signed the Lily Ledbetter bill, the SCHIP/cigarette tax hike, and the stimulus bill all with far less than a five-day waiting period that he promised–and continues to promise–on his campaign Web site.

Promise #4: Lobbyist Revolving Door

What he said:
“No political appointees in an Obama-Biden administration will be permitted to work on regulations or contracts directly and substantially related to their prior employer for two years. And no political appointee will be able to lobby the executive branch after leaving government service during the remainder of the administration.” (BarackObama.com campaign Web site (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/))

What he did:
Obama appointed Goldman Sachs lobbyists Mark Patterson chief of staff at the Treasury Department, where he directly oversees his former employer, a recipient of $10 billion of taxpayer funds from the TARP. Obama also appointed Raytheon lobbyist William Lynn to be an undersecretary of Defense.

Promise #3: No Tax Hikes on the Poor

What he said first:
“I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.” (September 12, 2008, Dover, N.H. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8erePM8V5U))

What he did first:
By signing H.R. 2 into law, Obama happily signed onto the idea that smokers should pay for a $35 billion expansion of the State Children’s Health Insurance Plan (SCHIP). Cigarette taxes are going up 61 cents a pack starting April 1. Obama signed this bill knowing that the majority of smokers in the United States are working poor, and one in four lives below the federal poverty line.

What he said next:
“If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not one single dime.” (February 24th, 2009, Address to a Joint Session of Congress (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-of-President-Barack-Obama-Address-to-Joint-Session-of-Congress/))

What he did next:
Ignored the already-hiked cigarette tax at the time of the statement and then this restated promise was broken just two days later, when the Obama’s budget proposal was released. His new budget raises 45 percent of its revenue from energy taxes that will be paid by everyone who fills a gas tank, pays an electric bill, or buys anything that was grown, shipped, or manufactured.

Promise #2: Pork Barrel Earmark Reform

What he said:
“The system is broken. We can no longer accept a process that doles out earmarks based on a member of Congress’ seniority, rather than the merit of the project. We can no longer accept an earmarks process that has become so complicated to navigate that a municipality or non-profit group has to hire high-priced D.C. lobbyists to do it. And we can no longer accept an earmarks process in which many of the projects being funded fail to address the real needs of our country.”
(Statement on Earmarks, March 10, 2008 (http://www.votesmart.org/speech_detail.php?sc_id=355049))

What he is expected to do:
The White House has signaled that it intends to sign the $410 billion Omnibus Appropriations bill, which according to Taxpayers for Common Sense (http://www.taxpayer.net/resources.php?category=&type=Project&proj_id=1961&action=Headlines%20By%20TCS), contains 8,570 earmarks totaling $7.7 billion, including dozens of wasteful pork-barrel projects. These earmarks were awarded based on seniority, not on merit, and were mostly the result of high-priced lobbying, precisely the process that Obama promised to end. When the omnibus reaches his desk later this week or next week, we’ll find out if this is one more broken promise.

Promise #1: Big Government

OK, so this one is more of a statement than a promise, but it’s the biggest whopper of all.

What he said:
“Not because I believe in bigger government — I don’t.” (February 24, 2009, Joint Address to Congress (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-of-President-Barack-Obama-Address-to-Joint-Session-of-Congress/))

What he did:
Obama proposed a budget that is breathtaking in scope, a blueprint for the biggest permanent expansion of government in history right on the heels of a sweeping trillion dollar stimulus plan. The budget lays the foundation for a government takeover of the health care and energy sectors and dramatically increasing spending across the board, other than defense weapons programs. Spending as a percentage of the economy under this budget will reach the historic level of 27.7 percent this year. The deficit as a percent of the economy, at 12.3 percent, is set to be the biggest in the entire history of the country outside of the four peak years of World War II. Anyone who offers such a budget can only fairly be described as a believer in bigger government.

Phil Kerpen is director of policy for Americans for Prosperity.

[TheImpossibleMan]

"Lackluster approval rating of 49 percent". LOL.

And Obama had a line in a speech in which he says he doesn't believe in bigger government, so clearly that is what he campaigned on, was elected on, and promised to deliver on.

[redsox39]

And Obama had a line in a speech in which he says he doesn't believe in bigger government, so clearly that is what he campaigned on, was elected on, and promised to deliver on.

Yeah dude, why are you listening to him? Just think hope and change and go with it. You fucking Philistines are so wrapped up in "personal responsibility" and making him stand behind things he has said! Come on man, just feel the vibe man./ Sarcasam

[TheImpossibleMan]

Yeah dude, why are you listening to him? Just think hope and change and go with it. You fucking Philistines are so wrapped up in "personal responsibility" and making him stand behind things he has said! Come on man, just feel the vibe man./ Sarcasam
Okay man, keep completely twisting the words of everyone who disagrees with you. Have fun.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Contrast the section in which you insisted Obama campaigned against big government with the other four examples you give. Obama actually has broken some promises, and those you've documented: With huge block quotes from Obama's speeches, links to his website in which he details his plans, and specific statistics. The final one is a single line from one speech that he gave after he was elected and the link is just a transcript of the speech. The larger quote:

"As soon as I took office, I asked this Congress to send me a recovery plan by President’s Day that would put people back to work and put money in their pockets. Not because I believe in bigger government – I don’t. Not because I’m not mindful of the massive debt we’ve inherited – I am. I called for action because the failure to do so would have cost more jobs and caused more hardships. In fact, a failure to act would have worsened our long-term deficit by assuring weak economic growth for years. That’s why I pushed for quick action. And tonight, I am grateful that this Congress delivered, and pleased to say that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act is now law."

Notice how he acknowledges that what he is doing is creating a bigger government. Trying to twist it into "Obama promised us smaller government, the lying bastard!" is untruthful, disingenuous, and lowers the intelligence of the political discourse.

[redsox39]

Contrast the section in which you insisted Obama campaigned against big government with the other four examples you give. Obama actually has broken some promises, and those you've documented: With huge block quotes from Obama's speeches, links to his website in which he details his plans, and specific statistics. The final one is a single line from one speech that he gave after he was elected and the link is just a transcript of the speech. The larger quote:

"As soon as I took office, I asked this Congress to send me a recovery plan by President’s Day that would put people back to work and put money in their pockets. Not because I believe in bigger government – I don’t. Not because I’m not mindful of the massive debt we’ve inherited – I am. I called for action because the failure to do so would have cost more jobs and caused more hardships. In fact, a failure to act would have worsened our long-term deficit by assuring weak economic growth for years. That’s why I pushed for quick action. And tonight, I am grateful that this Congress delivered, and pleased to say that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act is now law."

Notice how he acknowledges that what he is doing is creating a bigger government. Trying to twist it into "Obama promised us smaller government, the lying bastard!" is untruthful, disingenuous, and lowers the intelligence of the political discourse.

No, you ignoring the fact that EVERYTHING he has done so far is geared towards a bigger government is lowering the political discourse. Sure, here is an example of him admittedly doing whilst saying "Not because I believe in bigger government – I don’t." And your response, once parred down is, "well, at least he admitted that he is doing it this time".

But what about his healthcare plan? What about his social program spending?

Just because you say "Not to be a dick" before you do something dickish, and continue to do so, doesn't change the fact that you are a dick.

He is obviously for Big government.

[TheImpossibleMan]

No, you ignoring the fact that EVERYTHING he has done so far is geared towards a bigger government is lowering the political discourse. Sure, here is an example of him admittedly doing whilst saying "Not because I believe in bigger government – I don’t." And your response, once parred down is, "well, at least he admitted that he is doing it this time". That's not what I said at all. Did you even read the quote? He says 'We're going to need big govt., not because I believe in it, but because its necessary.' I know it's fashionable to put Andrew Ryan quotes in your sig and advocate a laissez-faire government, but not everyone sees the federal government as a horrible evil that must be combated at all costs, so what you're saying doesn't even make sense - why would I be apologizing for Obama making government bigger when I don't think it needs to be apologized for?

[TheImpossibleMan]

I'd also like to point out that one could easily take Obama's statement as 'I believe in big government, but that isn't the reason I'm going forward with this. The reason is I think it's necessary.'

[redsox39]

I'd also like to point out that one could easily take Obama's statement as 'I believe in big government, but that isn't the reason I'm going forward with this. The reason is I think it's necessary.'

Except for the part where he says "I don't".

[jimmyb]

Maybe its because he is totally out of his element?

[TheImpossibleMan]

Except for the part where he says "I don't".
Uh...yeah. That's correct.

Man. I should stop smoking weed.

[IdiotBrain]

I can't believe "we the people" would elect a man to run a country who has never even run a business.

Running a successful business should be a fucking prerequisite.

[TheImpossibleMan]

I can't believe "we the people" would elect a man to run a country who has never even run a business.

Running a successful business should be a fucking prerequisite.
Uh, then, you know, GWB shouldn't have been elected. He was notorious for running businesses into the ground. The only business he didn't completely ruin, and could actually be thought of as a credit to, was the Texas Rangers.

[tockit]

Uh, then, you know, GWB shouldn't have been elected. He was notorious for running businesses into the ground. The only business he didn't completely ruin, and could actually be thought of as a credit to, was the Texas Rangers.
According to Wikipedia, outside of his careers in politics and the National Guard, GWB started Arbusto Energy (http://forum.gorillamask.net/wiki/Arbusto_Energy), and later changed the name to Bush Exploration. In 1984, his company merged with the larger Spectrum 7 (http://forum.gorillamask.net/wiki/Spectrum_7), and Bush became chairman. The company was hurt by a decline in oil prices, and as a result, it folded into Harken Energy (http://forum.gorillamask.net/wiki/Harken_Energy).

He also purchased a small interest in the Texas Rangers in 1989. He became one of the managing general partners of the baseball team and agreed to serve as the public spokesperson for the ownership group. During his time with the Rangers, he oversaw the building of a new baseball stadium in Arlington, Texas. Bush, a lifelong baseball fan, was extremely happy during his tenure with the team. He later sold his interest in the team for over $14 million dollars above his initial investment.

Not sure how that constitutes running businesses into the ground, but I guess thats your opinion?

[redsox39]

According to Wikipedia, outside of his careers in politics and the National Guard, GWB started Arbusto Energy (http://forum.gorillamask.net/wiki/Arbusto_Energy), and later changed the name to Bush Exploration. In 1984, his company merged with the larger Spectrum 7 (http://forum.gorillamask.net/wiki/Spectrum_7), and Bush became chairman. The company was hurt by a decline in oil prices, and as a result, it folded into Harken Energy (http://forum.gorillamask.net/wiki/Harken_Energy).

He also purchased a small interest in the Texas Rangers in 1989. He became one of the managing general partners of the baseball team and agreed to serve as the public spokesperson for the ownership group. During his time with the Rangers, he oversaw the building of a new baseball stadium in Arlington, Texas. Bush, a lifelong baseball fan, was extremely happy during his tenure with the team. He later sold his interest in the team for over $14 million dollars above his initial investment.

Not sure how that constitutes running businesses into the ground, but I guess thats your opinion?

Because all the Lib love saying that. I have yet to meet a Democrat who didn't remind me that Bush had run "Lots" of business's into the ground. And to complete the story, his daddy kept bailing him out and making him the head of other companies. Google it, I am sure it has been blogged about a million times.

[desert scorpion]

Finally, decent minded red blooded blue eyed americans are seeing this black supremacist for what he is. They recognize if he has his way, our people and way of life will be washed away amidst a sea of 'multiculturalism', as its being done it homelands over the atlantic.

[Okie Medicvet]

oh you did not just say that. Go back to stormfront, you putz.

[cAsE sEnSiTiVe]

Wouldn't it be ironic if.....

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f241/SoundQcar/Misc/BaracktheSlaveDriver.jpg

[Vagrant]

So fixing the country was a six month plan? Damn. We're screwed.

[Owen the Plain]

Its silly to make a call this early. If you want to speculate that fine, but while there's a chance that you may be dead on, there's an equal chance you may have to eat crow later.

[Okie Medicvet]

this is what happens during today's generation of thinking it takes too long to microwave popcorn...we want everything NOW.

[redsox39]

this is what happens during today's generation of thinking it takes too long to microwave popcorn...we want everything NOW.

Which is why you elected an Asshat who said he'd give it to you now...and NOW wonders why everyone is so pissed NOW...

fuckers get what they deserve

[Yelram]

this is what happens during today's generation of thinking it takes too long to microwave popcorn...we want everything NOW.

And whats even funnier is how easy it is to trick a person into believing they are going to get everything they want ASAP, when the truth is, they are getting nothing but screwed. And after they swallow that its even easier to trick them into believing that "its going to take awhile", so in the meantime, the hapless idiots dont whine too much about not getting what they want. Its called placation. Its a pretty well known political device.

[redsox39]

this is what happens during today's generation of thinking it takes too long to microwave popcorn...we want everything NOW.

And you supported the guy who wants to rush every bill through at the speed of light before anyone can read the bullshit within.

He did it with the Stimulous package and he tried with Healthcare...

But a few short years ago he said:

Obama: “When you rush these budgets that are a foot high, and nobody has any idea what’s in them, and nobody has read them…”
Rhodes: “14 pounds, it was.”
O: “Yeah, and it gets rushed through without any clear deliberation or debate. Then, these kinds of things happen. And I think that this is in some ways what happened to the Patriot Act. I mean, you remember, there was no real debate about that. It was so quick after 9/11 that it was introduced that people felt very intimidated by the administration.”




But now he seems all ready to vomit out his bills as fast as possible...what a truly fucking asshole.

[Okie Medicvet]

Yup, and my faith in him remains unshakeable. Don't ya'll just wuuuuuv me? :p

[tockit]

Its silly to make a call this early. If you want to speculate that fine, but while there's a chance that you may be dead on, there's an equal chance you may have to eat crow later.
Well, if his own party who now hold a near filibuster proof majority of both the House and the Senate, are getting nervous about supporting him, I'd say thats a pretty bad sign.

I'll take my chances and stick to my opinion that he should have stuck with writing his memoirs and voting present as a Senator.

This guy is in way over his head. Being a great speaker doesn't make you a great leader.

[blakegriffin]

He's not marking on his word, is he? Six month plan is not enough to restore the economy of US, try to consider at least two years or more to restore things back to normal for US.

[tockit]

He's not marking on his word, is he? Six month plan is not enough to restore the economy of US, try to consider at least two years or more to restore things back to normal for US.
Well, if Obama, Pelosi, and Reid hadn't have put us $800 billion in debt with a worthless Stimulus Package, compounded by trying to rush Cap & Trade through congress before most people even had the chance to read it, and now trying to put government health care on us (which the majority of Americans don't want), and putting our country in more debt than its ever been in, maybe our economy might be starting to head back in the right direction and continue in the right direction.

Now, we're looking at having to raise taxes on the upper AND the middle class to pay for all of these programs hes trying to pass, which will hammer the recovery, along with the inflation thats gonna come from all of this money we're borrowing.

If he doesn't put us in a depression with his idiotic Carter-like policies, it will be a miracle.

Fortunately, to Obama's chagrin, the American people are starting to get fed up with his massive spending and socializing efforts, as was witnessed today in various town meetings across the country.

When he was first elected, I tried to remain optimistic and hoped he would try to govern more towards the center, similar to the Clinton administration, but this guy has gone screeching off the left side of the tracks at a blistering pace.

And congress seems bound and determined to get ALL these Socialist programs rushed through ASAP, regardless of what the American people want.

I had hoped it wouldn't come to this, because our country is going to suffer from these policies, but I see the Republicans pulling another 1994 landslide in 2010.

Of course, it can be argued that the Republicans taking back control of Congress saved Clinton's presidency and got him re-elected in 1996 by keeping him more towards the center than off in left field.

[redsox39]

Fuck Obama in the Ass with a Big rubber dick. Then break it off and beat him with the rest of it.


Report me at: flag@whitehouse.gov

[kid_vidrio]

The two preceding posts are proof positive that ignorance and idiocy have not abated here during my sabatical.

[thagamesova]

Which is why you elected an Asshat who said he'd give it to you now...and NOW wonders why everyone is so pissed NOW...

fuckers get what they deserve

Lol, so true.

[azngzus]

It's not just the democrats that are impatient and want change immediately and right now, it's most Americans as a whole. Unfortunately we have become a society of instant gratification. The thing is that things like economic reform and fixes take a year or two, if not longer, the same with health care reform. These things take time and they may get worse before they get better. Anyone who sits there and judges a presidency by how the first 6 months went is irrational because policy change takes a while to take effect and show substantial change. After the eight years that Bush was in office things got progressively worse, we need to wait at least a year or two for us to start branding Obama as a failure, because apparently it took us six to eight years to realize that with Bush. People need to be patient, Republicans need to chill out because they lost and there's nothing they can do about it; Democrats sat through eight years of your chosen president the least you could do is shut your trap for at least the first year or two of this one. And yes I do agree with Pres. Carter that some of the hatred out there right now against Obama is based in racism, even if it's not blatantly so.

[winkeraw]

I am disappointed in many things that the current administration is doing; however, we must always remember that he inherited a nightmare and that it takes time to clean things up.