Watchmen

[CrazyCarl]

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they should release this right now

[bixby]

New Zack Snyder interview
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1592568/story.jhtml
SAN DIEGO — These days, "300" director Zack Snyder is hard at work perfecting the impossible. As you read this, he is undoubtedly in some dark edit bay, unshaven and chugging a Starbucks, doing his very best to transform "Watchmen" from an unfilmable comic book into the next smash superhero movie.
So far, what we've seen of his efforts has been nothing short of perfection, from the trailer (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1591135/20080717/story.jhtml) to the fan-pleasing in-jokes (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/07/17/exclusive-zack-snyder-reveals-secrets-in-watchmen-trailer/) to the decision to have My Chemical Romance cover a Bob Dylan song (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1591849/20080730/story.jhtml) for the end credits.
But how does he deal with the issue of Dr. Manhattan's crotch? What does he do when the script demands that he cut secondary characters like Hooded Justice? And why won't the creator of the graphic novel stop trashing Snyder when he hasn't even seen the movie? In a candid chat with MTV, the director of the March 2009 flick gave us a rundown of the landmines he's tiptoeing around while crafting a cinematic event worthy of the "Watchmen" name.
MTV: When "Watchmen" was first published in 1986-87, it was a shock to readers who'd become accustomed to clear-cut, antiseptic superheroes. After all the men-in-tights movies we've seen in the last few years, are moviegoers similarly ripe for a film that tears apart the mythologies of a Batman type, a Superman type and others?
Zack Snyder: Well, that's the hope. The hope is that people see their icons in this movie, and they see them deconstructed. That creates a conversation that is transcendent of a superhero movie. It's not just "Oh, that was fun, let's get a beer," but "That was great! Let's talk about it!" or "What does that mean?"
MTV: "Watchmen" creator Alan Moore recently gave an interview to Entertainment Weekly (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20213004,00.html) in which he reinforced his hatred toward any movie version of his book. Moore said he "would rather not know" what you do with your movie and that "There are things that we did with 'Watchmen' that could only work in a comic." How do you feel about his comments?
Snyder: I think it's consistent with his stance, and I respect that. Like I say, the point of the movie is not to replace the graphic novel. Look, after the trailer came out, "Watchmen" went to #2 on Amazon and suddenly hundreds of thousands of copies of the graphic novel are selling. That's all I can ask for. If the movie is successful, that's great. But in the end, I want people to read [Moore's] book.
MTV: It's no secret that Nite Owl is based somewhat on Batman. With the success of Christopher Nolan's films, did you try to ramp up such comparisons?
Snyder: Well, Nite Owl's still a character who is a rich guy. He decided to become a crime-fighter. He lives in a brownstone. Under his brownstone is an abandoned subway station that he's turned into his Owl Chamber, as he calls it. He's built this ship; he's a genius of gadgetry. He has gadgets, and you could call him a gadget-based superhero. He has a grappling gun, and he throws things, and so he is very Batman-esque in that way. He was based on Batman as well as Blue Beetle.


MTV: You've said before that the character is like Batman (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1553677/20070301/story.jhtml) if Batman couldn't get it up.
Snyder: [Laughs.] Yeah, that's just real. You've got to have that scene.
MTV: At Comic-Con (http://splashpage.mtv.com/category/comic-con), you revealed some very cool new "Watchmen" posters (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/07/27/watchmen-exclusive-character-posters-revealed/). What was the inspiration behind them?
Snyder: There were some materials that David [Gibbons] had created to advertise the book. We took those and said, "Let's just make some versions of that with Photoshop magic and re-create them almost exactly." [The Sally Jupiter] one we had to make up; that's the only one we didn't have. They were actually designed to be put in comic book stores to advertise the book. They were drawings that looked exactly like that.
MTV: Another big question, pardon the pun, is Dr. Manhattan's crotch area. He's naked in many scenes. So did you CGI things out or enhance them or what?
Snyder: It's an R-rated movie, right? What you see in the trailer had to be a little bit squished around so it could get on TV. I think in the final film, you'll see it's true to the graphic novel. He's naked.
MTV: Malin Akerman's Silk Spectre costume also looks beautiful but seems like it would need some serious technical assistance.
Snyder: It's all latex. It's a very tight latex suit that we had to oil her up to get her into. [Laughs.]
MTV: Was it hard for her to deal with?
Snyder: I think it was uncomfortable, but we were like, "It's sexy." And so she was like, "I guess it's OK." ... She was constantly like, "Ow, it's poking me here!" and I was like, "Well, that's the superhero lifestyle!"
MTV: The footage you've shown gives us a brief peek at some secondary Watchmen like Dollar Bill. But you almost cut out Hooded Justice, correct?
Snyder: Yeah, it was hard [to get them all in]. There was a point where Hooded Justice wasn't in the movie. But then I was like, "No, we've got to have him in," so we had to scramble and get him in. Hooded Justice is in the movie, and he beats up Blake.
MTV: What's the current run time on the flick?
Snyder: Right now, it runs at around two hours and 50 minutes. I'm trying to make it shorter, because it's better if it's shorter, apparently. There is an online petition that says, "Keep 'Watchmen' at three hours." We'll see how that ends. Look, I just don't want to lose any story line, because you know eventually that's what happens. You start to have to cut characters out, and I just don't want to do that.
MTV: Where do you stand with "Tales of the Black Freighter"?
Snyder: We're waiting for some of the animation to come in, and we're just working on the edit. We did get Gerry Butler to do the voice (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/07/25/gerard-butler-sets-sail-for-small-role-in-watchmen/). He's being the voice of the Sea Captain.
MTV: Can you tell us about a moment creating the "Watchmen" movie where you dared to veer away from the comic?
Snyder: Wow. ... I added dialogue between Nixon and Kissinger — that kind of stuff was fun to do. It's Nixon and Kissinger, and they're older than we would remember them, because it's 1985.
MTV: Are the Watchmen in these scenes?
Snyder: No, we [cut] to scenes with them. There are scenes where Nixon goes to the War Room, and they're talking about the escalating war with the Russians. It's that line of the story. ... In most cases, it's elaboration.
MTV: You're making a movie out of a literary classic, where everybody knows how it ends. Do you find yourself fighting the desire to change the ending and just throw a curveball at all the die-hard fans?
Snyder: I don't. There's something that happens in the graphic novel at the very, very end with one of the lead characters and how he resolves things that is not very Hollywood. ... Basically, the graphic novel offers us a moral dilemma. That's the crux of the book: It offers you a moral dilemma about what's the right thing to do. It's so complex that the true answer of what is right is not an easy one-line fix [typical] for Hollywood. ... In order to create the conversation at the end of the movie, in order to create the debate about whether it's right or wrong, you need to do it a certain way. And that's what we tried to do. ... For the fans, it's not about what happens at the end. It's about being able to have that conversation after the end.

[Distortion]

how similar are the movie posters from 1986 till now?
http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer-news/87

[The Ape]

'The nipples are deliberate' - Watchmen director explains film's messages and meanings

Interesting read:

http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/t...-wat.html#more

"When we talk about mass culture embracing superhero movies, for instance, with Ozymandias's costume, it's, 'Oh, he has nipples. It's like a Joel Schumacher thing.' That's not an accident. Nipples didn't just show up on that costume because we thought it was cool. It's because we want to say, 'Yeah. Joel Schumacher made a bunch of superhero movies.'

"That's part of the language now, though, of cinema. You can see it in Nixon's war room in the film. ... It's so Dr Strangelove, it's ridiculous. We were in there going, 'We're going to get sued for this, this is crazy.' When Rorschach walks down the streets of New York, it's Taxi Driver. And you have to do that with that stuff."

[grimoald]

That is actually very interesting. What Moore did, crafting the story in light of Superhero tropes, he is doing the same thing with the medium of cinema.

Details like that are what is giving me hope that this might actually be very good.

However if it is too oppressive it could just be annoying.

[Pox]

This is going to be better than TDK.

[The Ape]

I have a feeling that this will be one of the most successful films of all time but I think it'll fall short of TDK, Ledger's passing and all the hype around the virals are going to be difficult to overcome.

[Nature's Folly]

I'm not as excited for this like i was TDK. Will i see it? Of course, but will it match the feeling the comics gave me? Prob. Not.

[bixby]

After the trailer ran at the beginning of TDK sales for the book went through the roof. It's #10 on Amazon's best seller's right now.

So, even if the movie sucks, it did at least one good thing--made people go out and read the book.

[Nature's Folly]

After the trailer ran at the beginning of TDK sales for the book went through the roof. It's #10 on Amazon's best seller's right now.

So, even if the movie sucks, it did at least one good thing--made people go out and read the book.


True dat.

[The Ape]

Considering its one of the best graphic novels of all time and people are rushing out to read it I'd say its a good bet that the movie will be number one when its released but the question is whether or not it can live up to the source material.

[bixby]

The only thing holding me back from anticipating it is Zack Snyder, really. He seems like a nice guy in the interviews I've read, and he's obviously a fan of comics and Watchmen in particular, but I'm hesitant to believe he can properly direct this kind of material. He's directed a zombie flick (a damn good one, but still) and an unapologetic, dumbass action flick. The guy's got an eye for visuals (just look at the trailer for Watchmen), but I don't know if he's up to make the "Citizen Kane of superhero stories."

Plus, in interviews he comes across like he wants to make everything "super badass and hardcore FUCK YEAH", and that shit is just corny to me.

Darren Aronofsky, Paul Greengrass, Terry Gilliam...these are the guys who were all at one point signed on to direct this flick, and they really seemed more right for it.

[grimoald]

It won't be a really huge box office smash as it is R rated and isn't either a) a sequel or b) from super populist source material. People know Watchmen, but they do in the same way people know a really good book, it isn't a pop-culture phenomenon. It is early and it depends how they sell it, but surpassing 300 money would be great. A list of all time R rated box office is here:

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic/mpaa.htm?page=R&p=.htm

At its core, it is still a pretty badass superhero flick anyway and I have no doubts he can pull that off. The question is whether he can bring the character stuff and all the subtext. Similarly guys like Greengrass and Aronofsky might have had trouble with the scope of the project.

I did however like Greengrass' idea of making it a modern day terrorism allegory a lot, as opposed to keeping it as a 1980s cold war tale. Though people can draw those inferences themselves I suppose.

[Eradicator30]

Kevin Smith has seen 'Watchmen'
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/08/15/kevin-smith-has-seen-watchmen-its-fking-astounding/

I saw Watchmen. It’s fucking astounding. The Non-Disclosure Agreement I signed prevents me from saying much, but I can spout the following with complete joygasmic enthusiasm: Snyder and Co. have pulled it off. Remember that feeling of watching Sin City on the big screen and being blown away by what a faithful translation of the source material it was, in terms of both content and visuals? Triple that, and you’ll come close to watching Watchmen. Even Alan Moore might be surprised at how close the movie is to the book. March can’t come soon enough.

[nuclearjew]

Kevin Smith needs to wipe the cum out of his goatee.

[bixby]

Kevin Smith seems like a good dude and all, but this will haunt him forever...

"Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fucking awesome. This is the "Star Wars" prequel the haters have been bitching for since "Menace" came out, and if they don't cop to that when they finally see it, they're lying. As dark as "Empire" was, this movie goes a thousand times darker - from the triggering of Order 66 (which has all the Shock Troopers turning on the Jedi Knights they've been fighting beside throughout the Clone Wars and gunning them down), to the jaw-dropping Anakin/Obi Wan fight on Mustafar (where - after cutting his legs and arm off, Ben leaves Skywalker burning alive on the shores of a lava river, with Anakin spitting venomous sentiments at his departing mentor), this flick is so satisfyingly tragic, you'll think you're watching "Othello" or "Hamlet".

[JoseCu3rvo]

I actually have a lot of faith this movie will turn out great. I keep hearing positive things about it. I'd love it if they kept it close to three hours, but if they cut it, I'd expect an extended edition on DVD.

[420monk]

WTF!?

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20080818/121911997700.html

Fox seeks to stop WB's "Watchmen" after court win
Monday August 18 9:26 PM ET

Twentieth Century Fox said on Monday it will seek an injunction to block release of the Warner Bros movie "Watchmen" after a Los Angeles court ruled a copyright lawsuit against Warner can go forward.
The movie about raffish, flawed superheroes -- which has already been shot -- is slated for release on March 6, said Warner Bros spokesman Scott Roe.
The highly anticipated film, with a budget believed to be about $120 million, is based on a 1980s DC Comics graphic novel written by Alan Moore (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1800191119) and illustrated by Dave Gibbons.

http://us.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=TIkaZ0WTfi0pl9ubSKnW.Rh0YhnpukirI6kAAOPL&T=140cp588v%2fX%3d1219175337%2fE%3d29288750%2fR%3d movies%2fK%3d5%2fV%3d2.1%2fW%3dH%2fY%3dYAHOO%2fF%3 d2387456427%2fQ%3d-1%2fS%3d1%2fJ%3d457E9345&U=13f7c4n6g%2fN%3d5lozBs6.I9A-%2fC%3d674272.12804265.13083209.1429205%2fD%3dLREC %2fB%3d5404819%2fV%3d1In his decision released last week, Judge Gary Feess of the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California wrote that Fox could hold some of the rights to the material, even if it did not hold all rights.
Fox argues it acquired motion picture rights to the "Watchmen" graphic novel in the last 1980s, and that even though it relinquished certain rights to the material in 1991 it held onto the right to distribute the first movie.
"We will be asking the court to enforce Fox's copyright interests in "The Watchmen" and enjoin the release of the Warner Brothers film and any related 'Watchmen' media that violate our copyright interests in that property," said Fox spokesman Gregg Brilliant.

"The Watchmen" is directed by Zack Snyder, who made the 2007 hit movie "300." The film is based on edgy material and takes an unorthodox approach to the superhero movie by focusing on flawed antiheroes.
Scott Rowe, a spokesman for Warner Bros, said the ruling only means that the case will go forward.

"The judge did not opine at all on the merits, other than to conclude that Fox satisfied the pending requirements," Rowe said. "We respectfully disagree with Fox's position and do not believe they have any rights in and to this project."
Feess' ruling was issued on Wednesday, in response to Warner Bros' request to have the case dismissed. Warner Bros made the request after Fox sought an injunction against release of "Watchmen."

Fox filed its lawsuit against Warner Bros in February. Fox's accusations against its rival studio included copyright infringement, interference with contract and breach of contract.

DC Comics, the company behind the "Watchmen" graphic novel, is a subsidiary of Warner Bros, which is owned by Time Warner Inc. Fox is owned by News Corp

(Reporting by Alex Dobuzinskis: Editing by Peter Henderson and Carol Bishopric)

[MDiver01]

what a huge loss of money if this movie never gets released. If anything they should just try and sue to get part of the profits. Trying to get it cancelled is a bit overboard.

[bk3030]

No kidding, hope this gets settled soon. I've never even read the comic book, but the trailer before my second viewing of Dark Knight really piqued my interest.

[The Ape]

It'll be released Fox has nothing to gain stopping this thing. They are just trying to bend WB over and really stick it to them before coming up with a deal.

[Night Hawk]

i started reading this.. and its great... homo shit to cancel this.



Just because this movie exists doesn’t mean theirs won’t work. Good things come in pairs Volcano, Dante’s Peak. Deep
Impact, Armageddon. Wyatt Earp, Tombstone. Panda Express, Yoshinoya Beef Bowl.

[CrazyCarl]

Fox would benefit a lot more by investing $0 and getting their share of this rather than making their own movie which would probably bomb

[Night Hawk]

Fox would benefit a lot more by investing $0 and getting their share of this rather than making their own movie which would probably bomb

Or invest in theirs make a small profit as movies usually do... and sue for rights to this.. best of both.

[Night Hawk]

Did they put a hold on the trailers too? Went to the movies last night, and didnt see the trailer.

[nuclearjew]

I'd guess they only showed it before Dark Knight as a teaser...they're not gonna have it before every movie because it isn't supposed to come out for another 7 months.

[Night Hawk]

I'd guess they only showed it before Dark Knight as a teaser...they're not gonna have it before every movie because it isn't supposed to come out for another 7 months.


well i saw it in front of pineapple express AND tropic thunder before this bullshit lawsuit, so i am wondering if anyone saw those two movies in the last few days... was there a watchmen trailer in front of it?

[ADD]

I don't think every chain got the trailer. I saw TDK, Pineapple Express, Stepbrothers, Tropic Thunder and Death Race all at a Regal theater, and we didn't get it once (these were all on their respective opening days).

[ADD]

And did they really just re-hash a Smashing Pumpkins song from another Super hero flick for this one? Lulz.

[nuclearjew]

well i saw it in front of pineapple express AND tropic thunder before this bullshit lawsuit, so i am wondering if anyone saw those two movies in the last few days... was there a watchmen trailer in front of it?
Are you sure, because it didn't before either of those movies for me.

[Night Hawk]

Are you sure, because it didn't before either of those movies for me.


I am 100% sure.

[The Ape]

No Watchmen Trial Until April or June?
Source:The New York Times
August 31, 2008


The New York Times has published an article on the joint report that was submitted to the federal court on Friday by lawyers for both Warner Bros. and 20th Century Fox about the Watchmen rights. Here's a couple of clips:

Fox has said it will seek an injunction blocking Warner's planned release of the film next March. Warner has argued that Fox should not be allowed to stop the movie, after standing by while Warner and its partners on the film, Paramount Pictures and Legendary Pictures, spent more than $100 million on the production, directed by Zack Snyder ("300").

The report also outlined conflicting requests for a trial date: as early as next June, if Fox has its way, or April, if Warner prevails.

You can read more details here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/movies/30watc.html?_r=3&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

[bixby]

Fox is just pissed because they've been responsible for this summer's worst performing/shittiest films, and they're trying to grasp on to something that looks like a hit.

Their summer consisted of:
The Happening
What Happens in Vegas
Mirrors
Meet Dave
Space Chimp
X-Files
Babylon AD--The director of the movie even said it sucked, and that Fox is the worst studio anyone can possibly work with.

When What Happens In Vegas is your biggest hit, you know your studio's in trouble.

[Genius]

I have a question for Fox. Who watches the Watchmen? The answer? No one, until you fucks stop fucking this up.

[Jason]

I saw the trailer before DK. Looks pretty sick.

[bobdapunk]

I saw the trailer before TDFK. Looks pretty sick.

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[Hoser]

Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fuck if this is similar to the comic books or if it is as good as the comic books.

I feel like I am the only person on earth who can enjoy a comic book movie and not get all butthurt and bitch about how it is different then the comic.

[bixby]

Have you read Watchmen?

[CrazyCarl]

for a graphic novel where there's only 1 book for source material (Watchmen, 300, V for Vendetta, etc), yeah, it should stick to the material.

[The GWD]

There were new photos in the new Wizard.

I'd find them, but I'm lazy. They're fucking sweet, though. I don't want to sound queer or nothin', but the comedian looks totally sexy.

[Night Hawk]

Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fuck if this is similar to the comic books or if it is as good as the comic books.

I feel like I am the only person on earth who can enjoy a comic book movie and not get all butthurt and bitch about how it is different then the comic.


I'm with you.. but then again.. I am also one that can enjoy ANY comic book movie and not worry about it being good or bad. This includes FF and FF:ROSS, Punisher etc. I can agree they may or may not be bad movies, but i can still watch and enjoy.

[MDiver01]

I think CrazyCarl is right. Why venture from the story if it is just one story?

[JohnQRotten]

Yeah, it's not like Spiderman or Batman or Superman where they have to cherry pick from various story arcs to make the best movie possible. Watchmen is one self-contained story.

[bixby]

Of course there will be differences between the movie adaptation and the comic, because, frankly, the whole point of the comic was to show all the things that comics can do that movies/tv/novels can't. It was never designed for film. Unlike other Alan Moore books, like League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, or From Hell, which would have made cool movies, had they stuck to the story and not fucked it up.

[MDiver01]

From Hell wasnt bad but the League blew.

[bixby]

That movie (League) was so bad that the director retired/quit. Another filmmaker whose soul was crushed by Fox Studios.

[TheImpossibleMan]

LXG the movie is one of the worst and most embarassing films released in the last decade.

[nirvanasaves]

From Hell wasnt bad but the League blew.

I agree. From Hell was decent but the League was all kinds of crap. It's a shame it was Sean Connery's last film.

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[bixby]

It's shittiness is mostly the fault of Connery and Fox, though. Stephen Norrington, the director, supposedly got into constant arguments on set with the Connery and the studio heads. Connery was also the one who was mainly responsible for his character not being anything like the one in the book, since he demanded they write out Quartermain's opium addiction.

And Fox Studios is just notorious for treating directors/writers like shit. Look at what they're trying to pull with Watchmen, look at the feud the Babylon AD director wants to start with them, and then look at how they treated Bryan Singer when it came to X3. Shit, they're even trying to take the director of the Wolverine movie out of the equation. Any director who directs for Fox multiple times is a guaranteed studio shill--the only exception being James Cameron, because he's James Fucking Cameron and he tells those fuckers what to do, not the other way around.

Now, after a summer where all their movies bombed, and after they've spent the last decade making mediocre to absolutely unwatchable superhero movies, they're trying to ride the wave that TDK just made this summer and get back into the superhero thing by basically saying "Watchmen looks cool, WB, NOW GIMME IT!"

Fuck Fox and their incompetent, cokehead studio execs.

[Night Hawk]

It's shittiness is mostly the fault of Connery and Fox, though.

Wow... I'm sorry Connery only made his character less interesting... However he still was ok. The fact that the movie completely disregarded the source material and was shot as if it was for children... THAT is why it sucked ass.

[nuclearjew]

http://community.livejournal.com/damnportlanders/13188393.html

[Ace Rockola]

It played at Lloyd Cinemas?!?!

I was 9 blocks away. Fuck.

[Rumpleforeskin]

Have they said who is playing Nixon in this film?

[NOTKyle]

I think I remember reading somewhere that they wanted to actually switch it to Reagan in the movie.

Not sure if that's still in effect.

[CrazyCarl]

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTcyOTUyMzE4NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTM5MjA4MQ@@._ V1._SX23_SY30_.jpg (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0830373/)
Brett Stimely (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0830373/) ... John F. Kennedy (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0027408/)

[Celtickliq]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GUmgQHvqqc


GUmgQHvqqc


From the Scream Awards


Youtube button brokens?

[ShitBreak]

Is it wrong that this movie makes me wet...and I have not even read the novel?

[Celtickliq]

http://i35.tinypic.com/2i6c23b.jpg




Los Nice...

[Kopek]

Is it wrong that this movie makes me wet...and I have not even read the novel?

It makes you a bandwagon jumper.

[Jericho]

It makes you a bandwagon jumper.
How? Because he's read and seen awesome things about it that got him excited? I really enjoyed the short story"Andy Dufresne and the Shawshank Redemption", but fuck if there weren't a hell of a lot of bandwagon jumpers for that film

[ShitBreak]

It makes you a bandwagon jumper.

The fuck are you talking about?

Hell...I've owned the novel for a year, but I'm not reading it until I see the movie.

[Gary_Busey]

Why would you do that?

[CrazyCarl]

the book goes first

[ShitBreak]

Because I want to go into the movie not knowing everything. Then, after I love it...I can sit down and get into the much more in-depth version that is the Graphic Novel.

[The GWD]

Hell...I've owned the novel for a year, but I'm not reading it until I see the movie.

Spoiler alert!

Rorschach's motherfuckin' awesome.

[Kopek]

How? Because he's read and seen awesome things about it that got him excited? I really enjoyed the short story"Andy Dufresne and the Shawshank Redemption", but fuck if there weren't a hell of a lot of bandwagon jumpers for that film

If you READ his post, he said he hadn't READ the novel this is based on. Unless you know anything about this besides Zach Synder is directing and the visuals look kind of cool, you have zero idea of the scope at which this story goes deeper than any graphic novel has gone in terms of defining a medium. Latching onto something because it seems cool after more than 20 years of being cool is the definition of bandwagon jumping.

The fuck are you talking about?

Hell...I've owned the novel for a year, but I'm not reading it until I see the movie.

You're easily the single biggest reason why publishing is failing in our generation. Why in the fuck would you sit on an excellent beyond numbers piece of literature for almost a year just to only peruse it a few seconds before the film comes out? There is a reason it was a book in the first place. TO BE READ. It's not a fucking companion piece with the film.

[Kopek]

Because I want to go into the movie not knowing everything. Then, after I love it...I can sit down and get into the much more in-depth version that is the Graphic Novel.

Again, the single dumbest thing you've ever said.

[ShitBreak]

I just have noticed I always enjoy films better when I've not read the comic/book/etc. it's based on.....then the other way around.

I'm just not old-fashioned I guess.

[The GWD]

Jurassic Park the novel and the book can both be read/seen without spoiling the other. And they're both really good.

I don't know. I know they'll have to edit/leave out/change some stuff of The Watchmen, but I hope it ends in the same epic sort of way.

[bixby]

You should read the book first. Watchmen will always work best as a comic, because a big part of the book is to show off all the things comics can do that other mediums can't. Like Kopek already mentioned, it's not a companion piece--even if Synder adapts it frame for frame, you're just not going to get the same effect watching it as a movie first.

I already think Snyder made a mistake by making the movie look like it was shot in front of a green screen. It just looks way too "pretty" and Hollywood to me. Dave Gibbons' art definitely isn't muted in terms of the colors, but I always pictured the world of Watchmen looking a lot like New York in Taxi Driver. I'm sure the visuals Snyder and his team created will pull in a lot of people, but...eh.

[Ace Rockola]

I don't know. I know they'll have to edit/leave out/change some stuff of The Watchmen, but I hope it ends in the same epic sort of way.

http://www.cinematical.com/2008/10/20/the-bleak-ending-of-watchmen-changed/

The rumor mill is already at work.

[Snatch]

I don't understand how you would tarnish the experience of the graphic novel by going to see the film first.

The Watchmen is genre-defining, and probably the best work that it's medium has to offer.

Will the film even come close to matching that? No. Will it be good? Probably.

So why the fuck are you going to choose getting the most of our a good movie over the best graphic novel?

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. This isn't like reading X-Men comics and then going to see the movie.

You want Rorschach's blows to be dulled by having them telegraphed by Kelly Leak. That's what you want. Think about that for a second.

You are a fucking buffoon.

[jesuswasahippy]

Better to tear the movie to shreds.
Then try to protect it, because you haven't read the novel yet.

Saying that, i think this movie might have a chance to be good.
No matter what they do though, no actor is good enough to top the voice and characterization of Night Owl or Rorschach that is in my mind.

The more i think about it, the more i fear that some critical point in the movie is gonna be different then how i picture it, ruining both for me.

I'm still undecided about seeing the movie, I will let some other nerds go and see if its good, read some reviews and then make my choice.

[bixby]

Those last two posts read like a poetry jam.

[ShitBreak]

fuck this nonsense. I'mma start reading the novel this weekend.

[Snatch]

fuck this nonsense. I'mma start reading the novel this weekend.

Ya, you'll love it, there's pictures so the words are easier to understand.

[The GWD]

fuck this nonsense. I'mma start reading the novel this weekend.

You sold out your principles very quick. Sometimes you have to just say no.

[ShitBreak]

well...a lot of times, other people make more god damn sense than I do.

[The GWD]

That doesn't stop the strong-willed. Did Hitler stop when people were like, "Do you really need to kill all the jews?" Has Uwe Boll stopped? George W. is still rollin'. Come on, man.

[Ace Rockola]

Another leaked trailer


EDIT: Fuck it's gone.

[Le Goat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GUmgQHvqqc


GUmgQHvqqc


From the Scream Awards


Youtube button brokens?


video gone, now up here...

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808406490/video/10360699

[Fiend1138]

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/gallery_photos/Watchmen_teaserposter2_gal.jpg

[Jericho]

Didn't see these posted anywhere. My apologies if they were.

Fucking badass
http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/watchmen03_10772.jpg




http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/watchmen04_10773.jpg



http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/watchmen05_10774.jpg

[Titus_Pullo]

I hope they don't punk out the ending like I've been reading after that sneak peek

[Ace Rockola]

God damn Ozymandias looks like a fag, but Silk Spectre cancels it out.

[Fiend1138]

New Theatrical Trailer:

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808406490/video/10646620#10658091

[Kopek]

Boner!

[Le Goat]

http://media.1up.com/media?id=3652125&type=lg
When Home was first revealed (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157797), back in the ancient days of March 2007, one of the features heavily promoted was the ability to watch real-world content on in-game movie and television screens. Now, in the present days of November 2008, some of that is finally coming to fruition, as film marketing company PPC (Picture Production Company) has brought the latest Watchmen trailer to Home movie theaters. As PS3Fanboy reports (http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/11/21/who-watches-the-watchmen-you-do-in-home/), this is only the start of further cross-promotions between Watchmen and Home in the near future, as PPC promised "some very exciting movie related activity next month." Whether any of this will have anything to do with the recently announced game (http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3168689) remains to be seen.
All this cross-promotional content comes along with the news that 100,000 new Home beta invites were sent out this week, along with the launch of Home beta v1.0 (via (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=312636) Eurogamer). As a Home community manager announced on the European forums (http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_PS3_Home&thread.id=11323), yet another large batch of invites is planned to be go out next Thursday, with an open beta "not far behind." After nearly two years of waiting, could it be that Home is finally nearing a true, full-blown release? Sure seems that way.

[Night Hawk]

The trailer that was in front of Yes Man was SICK!!!

its on the movie page..
http://watchmenmovie.warnerbros.com/

[nuclearjew]

OMFG THAT WAS SICK DOOD!!!!!

[JT]

haha

[Le Goat]

The trailer that was in front of Yes Man was SICK!!!

its on the movie page..
http://watchmenmovie.warnerbros.com/

that fucking link keeps crashing my Firefox

[Mr. Bateman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ntztIUtCv0&fmt=22

new tv spot. no new footage really other than Manhattan blowing up a tank and rorschach says "and the world will shout save us...." differently.

the tag line is horrible, and this really downplays the significance of this movie. it makes it seem like a mindless superhero movie. overall its a bad tv spot, and doesn't do the future (hopefully) product justice.

and does anyone think the "world will shout" line was much better before??

[ripitkyle77]

the movie looks crazy

[Mr. Bateman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3GPSp4TAMs&fmt=22

TV SPOT 2 way better than the first one.

[The Batman]

http://www.thenewfrontiersman.net/

Pics and stuff like this one:
http://cache.g4tv.com/images/blog/2009/01/21/633681296165137801.jpg

[rhcpman12]

The final poster looks reallygood

[The Batman]

The final poster looks reallygood

you mean this one, the one you didn't post?
http://cdn.filmdrunk.uproxx.com-s1.simplecdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/watchmenfinalposter.jpg (http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/?attachment_id=9172)

[Nature's Folly]

Thank the higher ups for The Batman. People like Rhcpman123450xl;kfdzlniner will be the death of this board.

[NOTKyle]

you mean this one, the one you didn't post?
http://cdn.filmdrunk.uproxx.com-s1.simplecdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/watchmenfinalposter.jpg (http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/?attachment_id=9172)

God that is fucking sexy. I'm going to watch this movie with crotchless panties on.

[CrazyCarl]

Gametrailers had this user movie, which seems like it's actually related to the movie, since the group photo looks like the actual cast and they have the moon shot with Dr. Manhattan

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/303470.html

(I don't know how to use the tags)

[The GWD]

(I don't know how to use the tags)

What the hell kind of administrator are you?

[HAWK]

(I don't know how to use the tags)

Then you should change your sig.

[CrazyCarl]

What the hell kind of administrator are you?
they don't give us instructions. I tried the numbers, I tried the numbers.html, and I tried the whole url... didn't work
Then you should change your sig.
maybe

[The Batman]

A friend of mine had the graphic novel and I just read the few pages and I felt compelled to get the book. Read it in a day. Amazing read if you haven't checked it out yet. It really is one of the best anythings that I have ever read. I know the art style might turn some people off, (which honestly kept me away for some time) but once you really see what its about, the art style becomes an important part of the book.

[jax]

I had always heard about the book but it was only when I heard that a movie was being made did I run out and buy it. It is a great read and I'm looking forward to the movie and as much as I do like Kevin Smith, I'm not sure I can take his review (despite not being able to say much) with too much excitement.

[The Batman]

I had always heard about the book but it was only when I heard that a movie was being made did I run out and buy it. It is a great read and I'm looking forward to the movie and as much as I do like Kevin Smith, I'm not sure I can take his review (despite not being able to say much) with too much excitement.

you have a link?

[The Batman]

More Photos!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenewfrontiersman/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3533/3231304274_6b6c2f2ebc.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3387/3236530752_f0dc7e3611.jpg?v=0

[jax]

Kevin Smith has seen 'Watchmen'
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/08/15/kevin-smith-has-seen-watchmen-its-fking-astounding/


here you go

[The Batman]

http://cdn.filmdrunk.uproxx.com-s1.simplecdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/watchmenfinalposter2.jpg (http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/watchmenfinalposter2.jpg)

I can't fucking wait!

[the creeps]

that is one of the best posters that has come around in a long time.

[Genius]

I can't put into words how excited I am for this movie. I NEVER remember being this geeked for a film.

[Archangel]

I can't put into words how excited I am for this movie. I NEVER remember being this geeked for a film.

Not even Cum-Craving Anal Sluts 13?

[Genius]

Not even Cum-Craving Anal Sluts 13?
They lost me at 11.

[Mr. Bateman]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/020209_watchmanimax.jpg

[Celtickliq]

The footage at NYCC was pretty damn near amazing for me. I was able to speak with Gibbons at length and a little bit with Clay Enos. If you are into the visuals of the film, check out Clay's book Watchmen: Portraits. Amazing book of Black and White photos of every single character to appear in the film. Just beautiful.

As for the footage, I was able to see the first 18 minutes of the film and was very impressed. The opening sequence was great with the fight between the Comedian and the mysterious attacker. Just brutal. Felt odd having it play out for as long as it did since I am so use to the comic.

Once Bob Dylan's "The Times They are a Changing" opening credit montage scene goes on, I just knew this was going to be something special.

[Mr. Bateman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBA7vRHZdYk&fmt=22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZX5buAcGnY&fmt=22

two new tv spots. it wont let me embed them for some reason. they are amazing though

[Celtickliq]

Some photos of Clay Enos. I want the first pic as a poster. (http://www.clayenos.com/watchmenportraits/index.html)

[Mr. Bateman]

from an interview with Gibbons.

Gibbons also said that his involvement with the film was minimal, however he did draw a series of brand new pages of the graphic novel, that Snyder used as a storyboard for an original sequence in the film! The pages can be found in one of the many production books being timed with the film's release. Moore's reluctance to have WATCHMEN turned into a film has been highly publicized, but honestly, Gibbons seemed absolutely giddy about it. He stressed that he wasn't being paid by DC to promote the film--that he was doing it because he truly believed in the final product. He likened watching the movie to literally watching his "dreams come true", and spoke of one moment in particular that is so emotionally devastating it nearly brought him to tears. If you guys were unsure whether or not this movie will live up to your expectations, this will hopefully help to alleviate your concerns. Dave Gibbons--the co-creator of WATCHMEN--is a BIG fan of the film.

[Celtickliq]

Funny 8-BIT Minutemen arcade game. I guess its official. (http://www.minutemenarcade.com/uk/)

[Mr. Bateman]

http://www.comingsoon.net/imageGallery/Watchmen


full image gallery

[Titus_Pullo]

Trailer for the animated Tales of the Black Freighter companion DVD.

Click on the 720p in the lower right hand corner for high res trailer...

Link (http://www.mtv.com/videos/movie-trailers/341388/watchmen-tales-of-the-black-freighter.jhtml#id=1605027)

[Hoser]

I have never read the comics, I feel like such a loser among losers for not knowing anything about this. That being said, I still want to see it really bad.

[flyingmonkeys]

Trailer for the animated Tales of the Black Freighter companion DVD.

Click on the 720p in the lower right hand corner for high res trailer...

Link (http://www.mtv.com/videos/movie-trailers/341388/watchmen-tales-of-the-black-freighter.jhtml#id=1605027)

Thanks for the link. I was wondering how/if they were going to use the Tales of the Black Freighter in the Watchmen movie.

[Titus_Pullo]

I hope they will have a special DVD where they work that in the movie.

[Genius]

I have never read the comics, I feel like such a loser among losers for not knowing anything about this. That being said, I still want to see it really bad.
You still have time! Run out and buy it, you can have it read in 2-3 days, tops!

[zero]

You still have time! Run out and buy it, you can have it read in 2-3 days, tops!

It's freaking amazing I plan on reading it to my future children

[Mr. Bateman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGt16wC1fEA&fmt=22

New TV spot. once again embedding disabled

[highone]

Not knowing much about the Watchmen when I first heard of it being turned into a film, I wasn't really sure how interested I would be in seeing it once the release came around. I can now say I am completely stoked and likely headed to it opening weekend. Well done marketing campaign (and Snyder)!

[Mr. Bateman]

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wow.....uhhh a little less promising

[Clyde]

The slow motion definitely works well in the the trailers, but not so much in the last two clips.

[Mr. Bateman]

ohhhh boy. snyder is gonna ruin it i can feel it. the music in the "attention citizens" clip wtf??? i understand that what was the popular music of the "time" but honestly...


http://www.accesshollywood.com/watchmen

more clippage

[Oggie]

Matt Frewer as Moloch/Jacobi is awesomeness.

[NOTKyle]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/02/watchmencondom.jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/02/niteowlcoffee.jpg

Yes, this is a Watchmen (http://gizmodo.com/tag/watchmen/) condom. If Alan Moore didn't hate this movie before, he sure does now. Oh, but maybe the Nite Owl Dark Roast coffee will change his mind!

[Mr. Bateman]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=53130

prison break clip. i am becoming more and more concerned about this film

[The GWD]

You are a serious Negative Nancy.

[BeeRand]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=53130

prison break clip. i am becoming more and more concerned about this film

Personally, I'm not watching any of this material. I loved the novel so much, and I desperately want this to be a good film. I certainly don't want these clips to taint my perception of the film before I even see it. In addition, watching small pieces of the film out of context is viewing the material in a distorted light. I say hold the criticism until the movie comes out and we actually get a chance to see it.

[arod2105]

I think everything will be just fine. I'm really not too worry about the movie right now. We will see soon enough. Either way I excited its coming out, its been a long time coming.

[Mr. Bateman]

well gibbons loves it so it cant be that bad. the novel is just amazing. i really hope he doesnt screw it up. but snyder is the man, i do have faith. i do.

[flyingmonkeys]

I think it will be a great movie for the fanboys and comic geeks (like me), but I'm starting to wonder if the general public will "get it".

[RedBEARD]

I can't believe they left out the squid. :(

[Titus_Pullo]

It looks like this guy is directing Watchmen with the same visual gimmickry that he did with 300.

So my worry is that this is Watchmen put through a Zack Snyder filter instead of him breaking down the graphic novel and having that dictate the directing style.

[flyingmonkeys]

I can't believe they left out the squid. :(

So what is the alien threat that Ozymandias manufactures to get the world to stop the nuclear buildup?

[Titus_Pullo]

So what is the alien threat that Ozymandias manufactures to get the world to stop the nuclear buildup?

The unifying event that stops nuclear war is a bunch of energy plants that Dr. Manhattan designed blow up all over the world.

If you think that is lame, I agree with you.

[RedBEARD]

It looks like this guy is directing Watchmen with the same visual gimmickry that he did with 300.

So my worry is that this is Watchmen put through a Zack Snyder filter instead of him breaking down the graphic novel and having that dictate the directing style.This concerns me, as well, although I'm fine with him using the slow-mo segments. So often with special effects, they're on screen for 3 seconds and you never get to enjoy all that detail work. If it's beautiful like "300", I don't mind it.

So what is the alien threat that Ozymandias manufactures to get the world to stop the nuclear buildup?I don't know, but I was reminded of it over the weekend as I was reading the article in EW this week and they repeated the quote from an earlier Snyder interview where he states he loves the squid but that it isn't in the movie.

[Titus_Pullo]

Another thing that bothers me is that Snyder said he wanted to give the film a "Power Pack" feel.

[the creeps]

during a interview i watched zach said
that Dr. manhattan has section of one shots that lasts 12 mins! that could be good or bad....
but to me that sounds risky..

[FlipHKD]

By not putting the squid in he's solidifying Alan Moores hatred of comic to movie adaptations.

good fucking job snyder

[Archetype]

The unifying event that stops nuclear war is a bunch of energy plants that Dr. Manhattan designed blow up all over the world.

If you think that is lame, I agree with you.
*pukes* Jesu- *pukes* Chri- *pukes* make it *pukes* stop *pukes*

[the creeps]

By not putting the squid in he's solidifying Alan Moores hatred of comic to movie adaptations.

good fucking job snyder
but wouldn't that just make the watchmen "cloverfield with guys in tights"?

[Archetype]

The whole point in the book was that we won't know peace until we have something to unite against, ie. the alien attack. Absent that and what the fuck is this about? Disaster brings people together? We suddenly smarten up because things get bad? Fucking retarded.

[Mr. Bateman]

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looks like they have done Rorschach right....zack my faith has been restored.

[FlipHKD]

that was much much better than the previously released clips.

[the creeps]

300 was great. dawn of the dead wasn't bad. i don't know why people have such a bad view on zach. he hasn't let me down as of yet.

[BeeRand]

300 was great. dawn of the dead wasn't bad. i don't know why people have such a bad view on zach. he hasn't let me down as of yet.

I thought 300 was awful. But the source material wasn't any better.

Dawn of the Dead, on the other hand, was amazing.

[the creeps]

tits, gore and violence. if you don't love those things in your movies then you have issues.

[Genius]

I wondered when the anti-Watchmen movie Internet backlash would finally kick in. Nice to see I didn't get disappointed.

[Titus_Pullo]

I guess you haven't seen the Dr. Manhattan Master Card "priceless" commercial yet.

[Genius]

I guess you haven't seen the Dr. Manhattan Master Card "priceless" commercial yet.
I always liked Billy Crudup. He was good in Jesus's Son. But I never really thought of him as blue and naked.

[Titus_Pullo]

He will never replace Rebecca Romijn.

[Genius]

I never really thought of her as blue and naked either. Now I always do.

[Mr. Bateman]

91% on rotten tomatoes. 10 good 1 bad. the one bad review is getting berated with negative comments obviously.

[HAWK]

I need to re-read this shit before release.

[Celtickliq]

92% fresh. All west coast critics whom I don't really trust other than Devin at CHUD.

[Mr. Bateman]

down to 78%. whatever im seeing it sunday i cant fucking wait.

[nuclearjew]

91% on rotten tomatoes. 10 good 1 bad. the one bad review is getting berated with negative comments obviously.
I love reading the negative comments on negative reviews on fanboy movies. Stupid fucking losers.

[BeeRand]

I can only imagine the fanboy response to The Shining prior to its release.

"I hear Kubrick completely removed the hotel explosion! I'm not gonna see it."

[Mr. Bateman]

seeing it tomorrow..... 36 hours and counting

[BeeRand]

seeing it tomorrow..... 36 hours and counting

If I log onto these forums 39 hours from now and find that you've posted a bunch of spoilers, I'm going to shoot you in the head of your penis with a BB gun.

[Genius]

If I log onto these forums 39 hours from now and find that you've posted a bunch of spoilers, I'm going to shoot you in the head of your penis with a BB gun.
If you don't know what happens by now, it's your own fault. Read the graphic, fool.

[Mr. Bateman]

everyone dies. including the new ending of Rorschach turning into a giant ink blot and killing everyone on earth.

[Titus_Pullo]

I love reading the negative comments on negative reviews on fanboy movies. Stupid fucking losers.

Now that you mentioned this, I went over to the Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li section over there where there are people defending the franchise with a lot of passion. Too fucking funny.

[BeeRand]

If you don't know what happens by now, it's your own fault. Read the graphic, fool.

I have. I don't want to come in here and see a compare/contrast list. Obviously we know the squid, pirate story, and newstand are going to be absent. Everything else, I'd prefer a surprise. And if Snyder changed the entire ending of the film, obviously I don't want to know until its actually possible for me to see it.

[Mr. Bateman]

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ok snyder you have me convinced. i will see what this thing is all about in 8pm tonight

[Bungle]

I get don't excited for movies anymore. I can usually tell when I should be excited. . .I think something in me died, or maybe I'm just never satisfied by the transition of going from page to screen. But saying something in me died, that's much more goth. And goth chicks are kinda hot.

Did you hear that suicide girls? I'M DEAD INSIIIIDE!!!

[Mr. Bateman]

2 hours. i will post a review when i get back.

[nuclearjew]

Because you have a reputable opinion on movies. Natch.

[Mr. Bateman]

regardless im an avid fan of the graphic novel and can share how i thought it measure up. and maybe i just have used the term brief summary of my opinion rather than review.

[Mr. Bateman]

After some time to let it sink in it was a very, very good movie. I am a very big fan of the graphic novel and wanted to see it very close to the novel. Although the new ending isn't terrible i dont think its fantastic either. Obviously seeing the squid would have been great but its not a distracting factor of the movie. Overall I thought that it was very respective and honorable to the source material.

Haley definitely KILLS as Rorschach, if for nothing else he is the real deal. Crudup is really good as Dr. Manhattan as well. He gives about as much humanity as the character allows. Goode is decent as Veidt but I would have liked to see that character done a little better. The best thing about the movie is definitely the look of it. The colors and the setting definitely match the novel to a T and the cinematography is great too. The music can be interesting at times but it generally works.

The point is that it was good, worth seeing and should satisfy a lot of the fanboys, the good far outweighs the bad. And I am seeing it IMAX next week so it will probably be better in a second viewing.

8.5/10

[Celtickliq]

I think one of the things I enjoyed about the film the most b/c of its obvious and simplicity of it all was that the music sounded like it was from the 1980's.

But I am sure there will be the typical fanboy backlash in this one. Some people just love squids despite the fact there would have been no way for it to be done correctly.

[Mr. Bateman]

I think one of the things I enjoyed about the film the most b/c of its obvious and simplicity of it all was that the music sounded like it was from the 1980's.

But I am sure there will be the typical fanboy backlash in this one. Some people just love squids despite the fact there would have been no way for it to be done correctly.

did you like the use of Dylan?

[Caronte]

The big question here is: would Alan Moore approve?

[Mr. Bateman]

The big question here is: would Alan Moore approve?

I doubt it

[Celtickliq]

The big question here is: would Alan Moore approve?


I think b/cit was made into a movie, regardless of how good it is or isnt, Alan Moore would not approve.

[Celtickliq]

did you like the use of Dylan?


For the opening credits?

[Mr. Bateman]

Yea all along the watchtower

[Celtickliq]

Yea all along the watchtower


the opening credits were "the times they are a changing" by dylan and watchtower is by Hendrix.

[Mr. Bateman]

Oh yea I posted jimi first and forgot I edited it.... My point was did you like jimi

[Celtickliq]

Yea it was ok. I am not a Hendrix fan but thought the piece was ok within the context of the film.

I really enjoyed the opening credits though. It still holds up pretty well in my mind when I first saaw it last month.

[Mr. Bateman]

Definitely. It was cool to see and my buddy who I saw it with (he didn't read the novel) said it was beneficial.

What do you think the final domestic box office will be? I think it will open in the 50-60 range but I have NO idea where it will go from there

[Celtickliq]

The R rating and run time can hurt it. But then again, I said the same of 300 which made a ton. I think 55+ for the weekend isnt out of the question.

[ShitBreak]

All I know is I'm seeing it in IMAX on Sunday. Can't freaking wait...and that's coming from someone who hasn't read the novel*.

*Yes, we had this discussion, but I decided to wait to read the novel until after the movie. I wanted to go into the movie not knowing what would happen.

[Kopek]

Again, the single dumbest thing you've ever said.

[Mr. Bateman]

Yea 300 had less of a built in audience but more of a broad appeal. And it was only 2 hours not almost 3.

[Celtickliq]

All I know is I'm seeing it in IMAX on Sunday. Can't freaking wait...and that's coming from someone who hasn't read the novel*.

*Yes, we had this discussion, but I decided to wait to read the novel until after the movie. I wanted to go into the movie not knowing what would happen.


I dont think you should say that out loud.

[ShitBreak]

Again, the single dumbest thing you've ever said.

I really doubt that. I've said a shitload of retarded things.

I honestly think I will enjoy it much more doing this, then if I had read it first. My mind works in simplistic, retarded ways.

[Celtickliq]

I really doubt that. I've said a shitload of retarded things.

I honestly think I will enjoy it much more doing this, then if I had read it first. My mind works in simplistic, retarded ways.


Nah I disagree. I think if you are being introduced to Watchmen by the movie, the ending will not be as powerful as it is suppose to be. Obviously, the difference between the comic and movie is huge. It is just that the comic gives you almost this complete background history that enables you to appreciate the movie ending more.

[ShitBreak]

Believe me...i know what you are saying. Doesn't change the fact I want to go into the movie spoiler-free.

[Nature's Folly]

The big question here is: would Alan Moore approve?

Never, moore always said it was something that couldn't/shouldn't be made into a movie. Hell he thinks none of his works should of been made into movies.

[Caronte]

Yeah i know, but i thought that if the movie was at least well done he could change his mind.

[Celtickliq]

I think From Hell, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and V was such a bad experience for Moore, even the most perfect adaption would not be tolerated simply bc it was from Hollywood.

[Mr. Bateman]

http://www.nbc.com/watchmen/

there is a "character trailer" of Dr. Manhattan with more to come this week. it is funny seeing these trailers having already seen the movie and what they are actually showing.

[the creeps]

I think From Hell, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and V was such a bad experience for Moore, even the most perfect adaption would not be tolerated simply bc it was from Hollywood.
that is one of the worst movies i have ever seen. i don't know why they gave that project to those brothers. yes i mean that in every sense of the word.

[Mr. Bateman]

http://6minutestomidnight.com/

cool interactive shit

[BeeRand]

that is one of the worst movies i have ever seen. i don't know why they gave that project to those brothers. yes i mean that in every sense of the word.

Really? Out of the movies listed there you pick From Hell? Don't get me wrong, it was awful, but did you see LOXG? That was an atrocity.

[Caronte]

LOXG was at least fun/funny at bits and it had Sean Connery. From Hell was just plain boring and retarded.

[Pax Britannia]

LOXG is one of my favourite comic books. Seeing the movie made my eyes bleed.

[Caronte]

It was a brilliant idea to throw Tom Sawyer into the mix because you know, America kicks ass.

[Pax Britannia]

It was a brilliant idea to throw Tom Sawyer into the mix because you know, America kicks ass.

Yeah I know! It gave the film such symbolism to have Quatermain (Britain) hand over leadership to Sawyer (America) at then end too!

(wretches)

[Caronte]

Such a crafty lad he was. I bet if there's ever a sequel, Tom Sawyer will bang Mina, rape Hyde to death piss on Quatermain's living corpse.

[Pax Britannia]

Such a crafty lad he was. I bet if there's ever a sequel, Tom Sawyer will bang Mina, rape Hyde to death piss on Quatermain's living corpse.

That movie needed the Hyde/Invisible Man rape scene from volume 2. It would have saved it.

[Caronte]

It would've kept Connery from retiring that's for sure.

[Pax Britannia]

It's a fucking crime that LOXG is Connerys last film.

[Caronte]

Indeed. I'm waiting for Nicholson to go out on a high note after playing Sinestro or something.

[ShitBreak]

Jack Nicholson is: The Green Lantern

[Caronte]

First, it has o be produced by FOX. Then, you cast sitcom actors as co-stars, then you handle the script to Kevin Smith, because y'know, this movie needs LOTS of dialogue, then all you have left to do is put Nicholson on a leather jacket BAM. there's your movie.

[Pax Britannia]

First, it has o be produced by FOX. Then, you cast sitcom actors as co-stars, then you handle the script to Kevin Smith, because y'know, this movie needs LOTS of dialogue, then all you have left to do is put Nicholson on a leather jacket BAM. there's your movie.

You'd do well in Hollywood. I shit you not.

[Caronte]

Samuel L. Jackson cameos as something. Anything.

[Pax Britannia]

Samuel L. Jackson cameos as something. Anything.

Samuel L. Jackson in....GOLLIWOG

[ShitBreak]

With Sam getting locked down by Marvel for a 9-picture deal as Nick Fury....i don't know if that'd work.

Just replace him with Lawrence Fishburne

[Caronte]

No come on...Sam L. can be in 23 movies SIMULTANEOUSLY.


FLASH FACT

[Mr. Bateman]

73% all the top critics are hating it. not like that matters

[Celtickliq]

73% all the top critics are hating it. not like that matters

The freshness of this will drop drastically today I am thinking. East coast online reviewers only got to see this last night.

[Mr. Bateman]

First people hand Snyder death threats saying he better be dead-on faithful to the book. Now those same people are bitching that he was too faithful. Make up your fucking minds!

[Celtickliq]

who's bitching where now?

[Mr. Bateman]

I'm saying as far as some of the reviews I am reading. Not on here.

[Celtickliq]

Oh. Well I think the majority of the people reviewing this are not going to get what Synder did simply bc they didn't read the book or they didn't fully get the book. And to be honest, there are going to be those who got the book far too well who will not get the movie. The movie really isn't the main problem, it was the source material.

I think that the film is so complex and layered that multiple viewings are required. But that is just me.

[Mr. Bateman]

I completely agree. I love the book but it isn't my bible. I loved the movie a lot as well. And personally I can't wait to see it a couple more times. I definitely think I will enjoy more the second time around. The first time I was just in shock I was seeing Watchmen on the screen.

[Celtickliq]

Its funny bc its true. **SPOILERS**

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[The GWD]

That's one of the most awesome things ever.

[Caronte]

Who cares about the lack of squid anyway? It's the constant slo-mo throughout the entire film that should really concern us.

[The GWD]

Everything is made better by slow motion.

Can you imagine how much more badass Marlon Brando would have looked beating his wife in A Streetcar Named Desire had it been in slow motion?

[Pax Britannia]

Who cares about the lack of squid anyway? It's the constant slo-mo throughout the entire film that should really concern us.

I love (by love I mean hate) when action scenes are filmed in slow motion. Doesnt it kinda defeat the point? Fights and shit are supposed to be fast fluid and entertaining. If the film suddenly slows down to half speed every punch every shot becomes predictable.

[Celtickliq]

Snyder used the slow mo for 300 and Watchmen to represent comic panels on screen. The problem occurs when non comic movies use it.

[Caronte]

Everything is made better by slow motion.

Can you imagine how much more badass Marlon Brando would have looked beating his wife in A Streetcar Named Desire had it been in slow motion?

Only if it was directed by THE VISIONARY DIRECTOR OF 300 fuck yeah son

I love (by love I mean hate) when action scenes are filmed in slow motion. Doesnt it kinda defeat the point? Fights and shit are supposed to be fast fluid and entertaining. If the film suddenly slows down to half speed every punch every shot becomes predictable.

Not that fluid either. You don't want to end up with the fight scenes from Batman Begins.

Snyder used the slow mo for 300 and Watchmen to represent comic panels on screen. The problem occurs when non comic movies use it.
Yeah, he used it to an extent, here he uses it EVERY TWO FRAMES. Everytime someone moves a finger BAM slow motion kicks in. No wonder the movie is almost 3 hours long.

[Celtickliq]

pfff whatevs....The super slow motion opening credits kick so much ass.

[The GWD]

I liked Leonidas' slow motion orgasm in 300.

[Pax Britannia]

I liked Leonidas' slow motion orgasm in 300.

Pisses all over the one from that Jodie Foster rape movie.

[Caronte]

His spunk reached the ceiling two weeks later.

[The GWD]

He didn't really use slow motion for Dawn of the Dead.

He did, however, seem to think that shooting a propane tank would cause a nuclear explosion.

[Caronte]

That only blasts zombies apart.

[Celtickliq]

Lots of Zach Synder hate going on here. LOTS!

[Le Goat]

His spunk reached the ceiling two weeks later.

I have that same problem.

[Pax Britannia]

Lots of visionary director Zach Synder hate going on here. LOTS!

Fixed by the marketing team.

[Caronte]

Lots of Zach Synder hate going on here. LOTS!
I don't hate the guy. Apart from the abuse of the slow motion i bet everything else is good.

[Will-Kill]

Leonidas should of moved in Bullet Time...I mean It would of been so much cooler for Leo to fly, dodge multiple spears and use Kung-fu.

Then save Sparta in a Jesus fashion...O wait, he did.

[Mr. Bateman]

i really enjoyed the slow mo in the film. it only bothered me a few times.

[Mr. Bateman]

and its at 64% i have a feeling it will be "rotten" when all is said and done. its at 30% in the top critics. it was awesome fuck critics.

[Mr. Bateman]

great scene from the move. starts at 1:44.

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[Celtickliq]

A few videos (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/03/05/watchmen-dr-manhattan-brought-to-life-in-london/#more-21701)from the UK PREMIERE. A 100 ft Dr. Manhattan must have been cool to see in person.