2008 Weekly Archive

[The Dude]

Pats. Book it.

[Marshy]

thank god for getting rid of that last gay title!

[Tar Heel]

B-B-B-Bretty and the Jets!!!

[Nosebuckle]

49ers vs Bungles in a Super Bowl rematch 20 years later....mark my words.

[Tar Heel]

That's a great prediction...






















...for me to poop on.

[Stax]

Pats. Book it.

The Dolphins will probably be easier to book cause they won't be doing shit after the regular season.

[ADD]

The Bears too. They can fight for gigs.

[misterfatt]

I still put us at the top of the NFC. I feel confident in saying that because all the best teams are pretty much in our division. The Giants and Cowboys are coming off great seasons, and the Redskins had a decent year."
and everyone though TO was the crazy one.

[Soup Nazi]

New stadium conduct policies ruin fun for everyone......in New Jersey:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/specials/preview/2008/08/12/meadowlands.ap/index.html

Jets find solution for breast-exposing problems
.......................

The authority also took steps to prevent harassment of women. Last season, security at the stadium's Gate D was increased at Jets games because hundreds of men would gather at halftime and demand that women expose their breasts. View-blocking banners will be hung on the spiral staircase to help eliminate the problem, which did not occur during Giants games.They also reduced the hours for tailgating. Lame.

[TheImpossibleMan]

I still put us at the top of the NFC. I feel confident in saying that because all the best teams are pretty much in our division. The Giants and Cowboys are coming off great seasons, and the Redskins had a decent year."and everyone though TO was the crazy one.
Yeah, seriously, they were shit last year and will be shit this year.

[misterfatt]

Yeah, seriously, they were shit last year and will be shit this year.
they finished the year ranked eighth in defense without their best player who managed to get himself killed. they finished 15th in offense with an inexperienced quartberback who missed the last four games. they also managed to make wildcard playoff appearance by closing out their last four games on the shoulders of a guy who hadn't started an NFL game in a decade.

[shdaow]

Pats. Book it.

[HAWK]

they finished the year ranked eighth in defense without their best player who managed to get himself killed. they finished 15th in offense with an inexperienced quartberback who missed the last four games. they also managed to make wildcard playoff appearance by closing out their last four games on the shoulders of a guy who hadn't started an NFL game in a decade.

Seems pretty convincing to me.

[bpb]

Yeah, seriously, they were shit last year and will be shit this year.

You're talking about Baltimore, aren't yah?

[misterfatt]

Seems pretty convincing to me.
simply put, the NFC east doesn't have any shit/awful/terrible teams.

[Lone Wolf]

simply put, the NFC east doesn't have any shit/awful/terrible teams.

I really don't think the Eagles are going to be all that great. They still have no one for McNabb to throw to.

[nuclearjew]

I really don't think the Eagles are going to be all that great. They still have no one for McNabb to throw to.
They won't be great but it's hard to imagine any team in the NFC East finishing below .500. Maybe Eagles go 7-9.

[ADD]

The Redskins are taking a sub .500 record and the keys to the basement in the East

[nuclearjew]

The Redskins are taking a sub .500 record and the keys to the basement in the East
L Thu 9/4 at NY Giants 7:00 pm
L Sun 9/14 New Orleans 1:00 pm
W Sun 9/21 Arizona 1:00 pm
L Sun 9/28 at Dallas 4:15 pm
L Sun 10/5 at Philadelphia 1:00 pm
W Sun 10/12 St. Louis 1:00 pm
L Sun 10/19 Cleveland 4:15 pm
W Sun 10/26 at Detroit 1:00 pm
L Mon 11/3 Pittsburgh 8:30 pm
L Sun 11/16 Dallas 8:15 pm
W Sun 11/23 at Seattle 4:15 pm
W Sun 11/30 NY Giants 1:00 pm
W Sun 12/7 at Baltimore 1:00 pm
W Sun 12/14 at Cincinnati 1:00 pm
W Sun 12/21 Philadelphia 1:00 pm
W Sun 12/28 at San Francisco 4:15 pm

I smell the Skins riding a 6 game winning streak into the playoffs.

[Sex Cannon]

I don't think the Giants are any good.

[TheImpossibleMan]

The Ravens signed FB Lorenzo Neal. That's cool.

[Night Hawk]

Please let the Bears trade for a QB.... PLEASE!!!

[Marshy]

so I am driving into work today and I am listening to local MN sports radio KFAN, and what do I hear?

Bretty and the Jets.

Almost drove off the road to end the nonsense.

Please let the Bears trade for a QB.... PLEASE!!!

<<<< -----|Want T-Jack?

[ShitBreak]

Please let the Bears trade for a QB.... PLEASE!!!

You guys can have Joey Harrington!

[sockmop]

Buffalo plays in Toronto tomorrow. Let the transition begin.

[Stax]

Chad Pennington on the Fins might actually work (plus young guys to fall back on), who knows.

[iKnowJohnStamos]

I don't think the Giants are any good.


The Giants will most likely rival the Redskins for the bottom half of the divison, but it will be a tough race all around for a wild card spot in the East.

[nuclearjew]

so I am driving into work today and I am listening to local MN sports radio KFAN, and what do I hear?

Bretty and the Jets.
Sweet, someone stole my bad pun and ran it thru the airwaves. We've got a spy!

[Papelgod]

John Lynch visited the Patriots today.

I hope he gets signed... he'd be a very nice replacement for Tank Williams.

[shdaow]

John Lynch visited the Patriots today.

I hope he gets signed... he'd be a very nice replacement for Tank Williams.

I am in full agreement with that.

[Soup Nazi]

John Lynch visited the Patriots today.

I hope he gets signed... he'd be a very nice replacement for Tank Williams.

Oh. Hell. No.

Lynch can still play, but I don't really think his reason for leaving the Broncos would hold any weight if he would jumpship to the same basic situation in New England.

[Sex Cannon]

Can he still cover anyone? Zach Thomas already fills the slow white and crappy quota there doesn't he?

[shdaow]

Can he still cover anyone? Zach Thomas already fills the slow white and crappy quota there doesn't he?

Zach Thomas is on the Cowboys

[Sex Cannon]

Yeah I just thought of that which is why I came back here after posting it. I'm a special kind of stupid.

Fortunately I dont worry about that sort of thing in my huddle. We don't have a quota for bad players. We take all comers.

[gigantor]

hey, zach thomas hasn't been all that slow in cowboys camp...hes beating out our young bust in bobby carpenter...

[Night Hawk]

John Lynch visited the Patriots today.

I hope he gets signed... he'd be a very nice replacement for Tank Williams.

Tank Williams is a shitty human being..

[Menace2Sobriety]

they finished the year ranked eighth in defense without their best player who managed to get himself killed. they finished 15th in offense with an inexperienced quartberback who missed the last four games. they also managed to make wildcard playoff appearance by closing out their last four games on the shoulders of a guy who hadn't started an NFL game in a decade.
Kinda like the '06 Eagles.....except they actually had a legit QB and won their wildcard game. They also now have one of the league's best secondaries.

[Soup Nazi]

Washington will only go as far as Campbell can take them. The guy has to learn his 3rd offense in 4 years, which is a daunting task for even the most experienced veterans, let alone for a guy with only 20 games under his belt. Plus being in a division with 3 potential playoff teams is surely not going to help them out.

[grimoald]

hey, zach thomas hasn't been all that slow in cowboys camp...hes beating out our young bust in bobby carpenter...

That should teach Jerry Jones not to pick someone because the coach liked his dad.

[Zilchoid]

The Giants will most likely rival the Redskins for the bottom half of the divison, but it will be a tough race all around for a wild card spot in the East.
I concur. Eli Manning had a lucky streak long enough to get him a Super Bowl MVP, but he'll be back to Mr. Inconsistent by the Giants' bye week. (Week 4, I looked it up)

[nitz]

Lame fluff article in the Daily News about the fail that is Reggie Brown. I'm still waiting for his vag scabs to fall off so he can become a man again and hold on to the damn ball.

[shdaow]

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- One day after visiting New England (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nwe), former Denver Broncos (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=den) safety John Lynch (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=428) has reached a one-year, $1.5 million deal with the Patriots, according to a source.

Reported by ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3535479)

I didn't realize, but the article said Tank Williams got injured too.

[Sex Cannon]

Several sources are starting to state that the Chicago Bears quarterback competition was decided before Training Camp even began. Further proof pointing that Head Coach Lovie Smith continues to claim the competition is neck and neck despite Kyle Orton haveing turned the ball over twice as much as Rex Grossman. Other indications point to Smith saying Rex and Kyle would play the exact number of plays with the first team offense in last weeks game. Depite the fact Kyle had more plays overall, Smith labeled 4 recievers as #1 recievers and Rex did in fact not play with the same crew as Kyle.


Neat.

Once I start pumping sexy rexy fastballs around the field in Seattle on Saturday with the 1's this competition is fucking over.

[Infotainment]

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- One day after visiting New England (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nwe), former Denver Broncos (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=den) safety John Lynch (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=428) has reached a one-year, $1.5 million deal with the Patriots, according to a source.
Reported by ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3535479)

I didn't realize, but the article said Tank Williams got injured too.


It's official if John Lynch and Rodney Harrison hit the field at the same time this year we're going to see the NFL's first decapitation.

[shdaow]

It's official if John Lynch and Rodney Harrison hit the field at the same time this year we're going to see the NFL's first decapitation.

Too bad we don't play the Giants this year...

[banethejuggalo]

Cowboys got this season gift wrapped for them. If they don't make it to the NFC Championship TO should be put down.

[ADD]

They won't and it won't be TO's fault

[Menace2Sobriety]

Reported by ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3535479)

I didn't realize, but the article said Tank Williams got injured too.Another thug for the league's most despicable franchise. He'll fit right in.

[Menace2Sobriety]

I still feel like I can compete at a Pro Bowl levelHeaps of pro bowlers out there don't start or play in nickel packages.

[heelsguy]

That was one sloppy game last night between my Panthers and Iggles.

I certainly hope we can apply more defensive pressure from our front 4, going forward.

[grimoald]

It's official if John Lynch and Rodney Harrison hit the field at the same time this year we're going to see the NFL's first decapitation.

If they ever line up together as FS and SS whoever is QB should heave it as far downfield as they can.

[blazerboy427]

I thought Lynch retired?

[Kilgore]

Rodney and Johnny? Pats buy some the geritol and maybe a walker too.

[blazerboy427]

Yeah, Lynch needed to retire after the Broncos refused to let him play in passing situations...which is why he consequently left.

[bluesteel]

Watch the bills this year. Stroud will be put in as a fullback and take Buffalo to the big game. Either that or they will finish with less than 4 wins.

[Fletch]

Tons of people are picking the Bills as a sleeper team...and much like the Cardinals the last few years, they will fail to live up to expectations.

[chipsahoy]

Fletch I think we are destined to be great friends.

Your avatar both rocks and sucks.

It rocks because its the bengals vs the steelers, one of the best rivalries in the NFL, in my opinion.

It sucks because its the steelers.

oh the bitter rivalry continues. Anyways its really the only 2 games I look forward to every season.

Wave that terrible towel with pride. And I'll get started on writing the next reinstatement letter to goddell for the next bengal to get suspended/arrested.

Who-Dey

Oh and before you answer Fletch, yeah, i know "we-dey'05"

[Fletch]

Who-Dey

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That is all. (Even though Joey Porter is a bitch)

[Kopek]

I thought Lynch retired?

No. Just his career. Like five years too late.

[Zilchoid]

Who-Dey

Who Dat? is much better.

[chipsahoy]

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That is all. (Even though Joey Porter is a bitch)


HAHA hate it but love it.

[Satan]

JT O'Sullivan is going to take the NFL by storm this year.

[Pollo]

Gtsch, how's Bryant Johnson looking in the preseason for you guys? I think he could be effective in Martz' system.

[Jericho]

JT O'Sullivan is going to take the NFL by storm this year.
*slap*

Don't you..

*slap*

You never say that shit to me again

[Gary_Busey]

Chris Johnson is going to take the NFL by storm this year.

[Satan]

Haven't seen much from him yet, but only one game in it's hard to tell.

[Satan]

Morgan looks legit...hopefully this can carry into the season.

[Sex Cannon]

This is a fucking hose job. How am I supposed to throw with these no talent ass clowns acting as turn styles in front of me?

[Satan]

It's official, Mike Nolan has taken pathetic to a new level. I read in the newspaper this morning that the 49ers generally blitz less than 10% of the time in preseason during Nolan's tenure. Last night the 49ers blitzed on just over 50% of the plays. Someone is trying to really hard to win meaningless games.

[Lone Wolf]

So, do you think Vikings fans were hoping for a slightly more serious injury so their team would be forced to find a better QB?

[Pollo]

what the hell is up with the QB situation in SF?

[Satan]

what the hell is up with the QB situation in SF?We have three shit QBs battling for the starting job. This shit could be a reality show.

[Captain Insano]

I'm startin to get worried bout my Cowboys. 2 terrible pre-season openers, the starters got run over today. I couldn't find much to be happy about. They looked as stinky as they did to close out their season last year.

[Jericho]

It's strange to see EG quoting Sex Cannon

[Neohesh]

my team always gets overlooked. nobody talks about them unless our starting wide receiver is getting arrested for cocaine possession, but this is the year for Jacksonville. Garrard doesnt lose games, the defense is top notch, and we have just about the best running game in the NFL.

[shdaow]

my team always gets overlooked. nobody talks about them unless our starting wide receiver is getting arrested for cocaine possession, but this is the year for Jacksonville. Garrard doesnt lose games, the defense is top notch, and we have just about the best running game in the NFL.

So Jags for 16 - 0?

[Penguin Rick]

my team always gets overlooked. nobody talks about them unless our starting wide receiver is getting arrested for cocaine possession, but this is the year for Jacksonville. Garrard doesnt lose games, the defense is top notch, and we have just about the best running game in the NFL.

Every year is the year for Jacksonville. Why don't they man up first and take the division from the Colts and people will start taking them seriously.

[SilverBullet]

I'm startin to get worried bout my Cowboys. 2 terrible pre-season openers, the starters got run over today. I couldn't find much to be happy about. They looked as stinky as they did to close out their season last year.


Pre-Season

[SilverBullet]

my team always gets overlooked. nobody talks about them unless our starting wide receiver is getting arrested for cocaine possession, but this is the year for Jacksonville. Garrard doesnt lose games, the defense is top notch, and we have just about the best running game in the NFL.
Wait, there is a team in Jacksonville? Holy shit batman.

[grimoald]

Only when the Jags prove they can stop Peyton scoring at will can they say they are underrated.

[Elk]

The Texans could be a sleeper this year, problem is they play in such a brutal division. I could see them go 6-10 as easily as 10-6. Going to have to beat some division teams other than Jax though. I dont expect them to do anything if they reach the playoffs but just getting to the postseason would be a win considering we havent seen postseason football in Houston in about 15 years.

[Tar Heel]

I'm startin to get worried bout my Cowboys. 2 terrible pre-season openers, the starters got run over today. I couldn't find much to be happy about. They looked as stinky as they did to close out their season last year.

They are too worried about how they look on TV with HBO.

[chipsahoy]

They are too worried about how they look on TV with HBO.


Has T.O. cried again?

http://www.atlnightspots.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/519.jpg

[nuclearjew]

Only when the Jags prove they can stop Tom Brady scoring at will can they say they are underrated.
fixed

We've stopped Peyton before, and if we can get our pass-rush to work, we'll stop him twice this year. :rolleyes:

[Captain Insano]

They are too worried about how they look on TV with HBO.

I have to admit I love watching them on HBO. I'm chalking this up to preseason. Next game should show a little more. Of course the Giants were ruled out after their start last year. Just one playoff win this year is all I ask.

[Da Raider]

Wait, there is a team in Jacksonville? Holy shit batman.

Not for long. Weaver is going to sell them and they'll be the LA Riots in no time. Yeah!

[The Dude]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/images/08/18/eli-manning.jpg

lol @eli's "serious face"

[NOTKyle]

And that's a fugly suit.

Brady knows how to dress.

[blazerboy427]

Has T.O. cried again?

http://www.atlnightspots.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/519.jpg

T.O. is crying because he just realized he's 35 and the Cowboys cut Terry Glenn thus signaling the end of his career.

[ADD]

He also realized, if they make the playoffs, Romo is still his QB

[shdaow]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/images/08/18/eli-manning.jpg

lol @eli's "serious face"

It looks like they photoshopped Eli's head onto someone else's body.

[iKnowJohnStamos]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/images/08/18/eli-manning.jpg

lol @eli's "serious face"

I'm not queer or nothin', but if Tom Brady wanted to, he could have me...

and can i just say fuck Eli Manning.

[The Dude]

HAHA, this is why Bill Belichick pwns every other coach in the league:

Asked if he would have played had the game been during the regular season, Belichick said Sunday night, "Well, it's not a regular-season game."

When asked if he would characterize Brady's absence as precautionary, he said, "I wouldn't characterize it."

[ADD]

The Bears are so fucked :(

I hung out with Marcus RObinson last week and he looks cut as hell and said he misses playing. C'mon Angelo, it couldn't hurt!

[The Dude]

5-11...MAYBE

[ADD]

How bout those Blackhawks!

[ShitBreak]

As I said before...Falcons > Bears

[Jericho]

How little Brother became the NFL's #1 superhero. I like the sound of that

[ADD]

As I said before...Falcons > Bears

Let's not go full retard here

[Penguin Rick]

The Bears defense alone is good enough for 5 wins.

So they'll probably go 4-12 since the offense is just that bad.

[The Dude]

The Bears defense alone is good enough for 5 wins.

So they'll probably go 4-12 since the offense is just that bad.

the bears "defense" has been by reputation only since they lost the superbowl.

[ADD]

They've also been banged up to shit

[Banon]

not to mention their best player is now a DT in Dallas.

[ADD]

Best felon you mean

[TheImpossibleMan]

not to mention their best player is now a DT in Dallas.
NATHAN VASHER IS A COWBOY??? Why didnt anyone tell me?

[Penguin Rick]

Tommie >>>>>>>>>>> Tank

[shdaow]

Hell why not? Better running game. I'm sure Ryan is better than Orton. Turner calls run plays on 3 and 22. Orton has never been able to put points on the board. We have no line. Unless Hester can run back 3 a game every game for the whole season we might get to pick Tim Tebow in the draft.

I still like the idea of putting Hester 20 Yards back in a punt formation and having him run the ball up the field... at least you won't get -7 points every offensive possession.

[hoponator]

I still like the idea of putting Hester 20 Yards back in a punt formation and having him run the ball up the field... at least you won't get -7 points every offensive possession.

The Bears need to put the ball in Hester's hands as much as possible. He can single-handedly win games for them.

[ADD]

The Bears need to put the ball in Hester's hands as much as possible. He can single-handedly win games for them.

Then maybe they should start the QB that can actually throw down field to him

[Genius]

I have a bet with two different people that if Grossman starts 10 games, the Bears won't be .500. So I'm a little pissed, it's void if he starts 9 or less. Orton needs to go DOWN.

[Penguin Rick]

Screen passes to Hester seem to be a good idea.

Atleast on Madden.

[ADD]

Screen passes to Hester seem to be a good idea.

The first 2 or 3 times. After that, he'll be doubled while the other receivers suck. Like I've said before, Hester's tiny. He's going to get raped if he's a top 2 receiver.

[bpb]

All this pressure on Hester is just begging for an injury. He'll be a risky pick in fantasy drafts.

[Marshy]

So Tarvaris Jackson is already hurt and missing the next game.

Someone send some blow to the state of Minnesota please. We are going to need it to make the fans happy.

[Da Raider]

What a shock. The Raiders are unimpressed with Javon Walker's effort out there. First they give him $11 million per year, he's out of shape, with a bum knee, he gets jumped in Vegas, and then he tries to retire. You'd think the Raiders hit the lotto getting out of the WORST CONTRACT IN THE NFL, but noooooo, Al Davis TALKS HIM OUT OF RETIRING. WTF!??!?!?!?!?!?

Al Davis needs to be put out of his misery. This team will never get it right as long as he is still running the show.

[Marshy]

and that worked how well in Chicago?

[ADD]

But Bernard said Rex sucks lulz

[Da Raider]

Raiders have a shot at having the best running back tandem and defensive back tandem in the league. Or course, seeing as they will also be among the worst offensive and defensive lines in football, they'll settle for being crappy with some shitiness thrown in for good measure.

[Marshy]

this just in... T-Jack is now out for longer as it isnt a sprain but a strain on his MCL. Gus Ferrotte sounds like the starter in Minnesota for the time being...


The initial diagnosis was that Vikings quarterback Tarvaris Jackson suffered a bruised right knee in Saturday's preseason game at Baltimore, but further tests revealed a sprain to his MCL, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/27076939.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiU9PmP:QiUiD3aPc:_Yyc: aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiU

[Penguin Rick]

Why didn't they go for Pennington in the first place?

[bpb]

Gus Ferrotte sounds like the starter in Minnesota for the time being...

Hope he wasn't near a wall when they told him.

[Marshy]

i have no fucking idea....

[Sex Cannon]

I'd say it went ok for Bernard Berrian and the giant contract he got because of me and the dragon.

This is fucking bullshit. I hope everyone that booed me has fun watching neckbeard float 10 yard outs into the bench because he doesn't have the zip of a sexy rexy fastball and can't get the ball in a tight spot.

I'll see you motherfuckers in week 8

[Marshy]

I'd say it went ok for Bernard Berrian and the giant contract he got because of me and the dragon.

This is fucking bullshit. I hope everyone that booed me has fun watching neckbeard float 10 yard outs into the bench because he doesn't have the zip of a sexy rexy fastball and can't get the ball in a tight spot.

I'll see you motherfuckers in week 8

what?

[shdaow]

Minny has to find some way to acquire a QB... I wonder if they could get Kurt Warner, or.... THE PIANO MAN!!!!

[Lone Wolf]

If I was a fan of Minnesota or Chicago right now I would be bashing my head against the wall for going into the season with these kinds of QBs

[Genius]

It's good to see the Cannon made the transition to the new site.

[Lone Wolf]

Now that I think about it, I really hate the Pats backup plans if Brady were to go down.

[Sex Cannon]

what?


Which part?

Berrian benefitted from my sexy arm unleashing the deep ball. You know how many checkdown routes he ran? Yeah none.

Orton doesn't have enough zip on the ball to throw an out. He ends up throwing it sort of where only his guy can catch it. But his guy is a third string guard standing near the bench because if its anywhere near the field of play its going for 6 the other way.

I'll be playing by week 8.

[HAWK]

Good God. The Brownies look like shit.

[Muji]

this is embarrassing, i hope this brings them back down to earth

this just in , the giants defensive line is really good

[HAWK]

Preseason or not...this is a gang rape.

Did they kill Anderson?

[Fletch]

Who the hell is this Domenik Hixon guy? Jesus he's destroying the Browns.

[shdaow]

Now that I think about it, I really hate the Pats backup plans if Brady were to go down.

I don't think the Pat's depth could handle a blow like that.... even if Matt Cassel can imitate Brady's pre-snap audibles, it would be a dark day in Foxboro if Brady went down.

[ADD]

Why didn't they go for Pennington in the first place?

Because they've invested too much in Grossbomb and Neck beard. To bring in another QB (and not for cheap, and not a sure starter) that had to learn the system would be insane. Also we have no line and Pennington is made of glass. It was also common knowledge he was going to Miami. No made a play for him.

[Dam]

so who's good in the NFL?

[shdaow]

Because they've invested too much in Grossbomb and Neck beard. To bring in another QB (and not for cheap, and not a sure starter) that had to learn the system would be insane. Also we have no line and Pennington is made of glass. It was also common knowledge he was going to Miami. No made a play for him.

Orton and the Sex Bomb barely know their own system. Maybe not Chad-P, but I still can't imagine they couldn't try and swing a deal for SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE to at least compete with Rexy and Neckbeard.

[iKnowJohnStamos]

Who the hell is this Domenik Hixon guy? Jesus he's destroying the Browns.


Kornheiser said he probably wasn't even going to make the team...try cutting him now. that was pretty amazing though.

[ADD]

Orton and the Sex Bomb barely know their own system. Maybe not Chad-P, but I still can't imagine they couldn't try and swing a deal for SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE to at least compete with Rexy and Neckbeard.

Not this year. It wasn't going to happen. I'd say maybe next year, but it's a moot point. Grossman's a UFA.

[misterfatt]

bengals bring back chris henry. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3542482)

CINCINNATI -- With their two Pro Bowl receivers hurt, the Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cin) brought back troubled receiver Chris Henry (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8497) on Tuesday, a move that their coach had emphatically ruled out only a month earlier as inappropriate.

The signing helps the team but raises questions about its commitment to holding players accountable for their actions. Henry must serve a four-game suspension from the NFL -- his third such punishment -- before he can fully rejoin the team.

[NOTKyle]

More like the Bungles!

LOLOL!

[shdaow]

They should sign Joe Horn.

EDIT: What is going on in Kyle Orton's head (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=brain/080819&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab5pos1)

[Pollo]

interesting bringing back Henry ... must mean that injury to Chad Johnson must be worse than first thought.

[White Rhino]

thats what I think. And the ownership undermining the coach in the process might be a bigger deal.

[Fletch]

thats what I think. And the ownership undermining the coach in the process might be a bigger deal.

Yeah, and if they struggle again this year you have to think they might make a change next year. Coaching all the egos on that team and having your owner do shit like this has to be killing Marvin Lewis.

[misterfatt]

Coaching all the egos on that team and having your owner do shit like this has to be killing Marvin Lewis.
all of that on top of being a terrible head coach must be really draining.

[iKnowJohnStamos]

Chad should re-flip-flop and claim he got injured to protest how unfair his contract is

[Fletch]

all of that on top of being a terrible head coach must be really draining.

haha, very true.

[Pollo]

Steven Jackson ends his holdout:

Steven Jackson has decided to end his holdout and will report to the Rams on Wednesday evening.

He will resume practicing on Friday. The sides have not agreed to a new contract, but Jackson is confident enough an agreement will be reached to report to the team. He has 18 days to get up to speed with the offense, which is plenty in our opinion. Jackson's fines for missing camp totaled $408,132.

[ADD]

Damnit. I was hoping someone was finally going to stick to their guns.

[bpb]

Pussies.

[Kopek]

Mike Ditka approved?


Report: Gene Upshaw, 63, dies of cancer
August 21, 2008
Sporting News staff reports

NFL Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw has died at age 63, according to a report.

Clear Channel Online, citing anonymous sources, reports Upshaw, died of pancreatic cancer. NFL Network's Adam Schefter, speaking on Sirius XM's NFL Radio, confirmed the report.

Creating confusion, NFL Radio reported NFLPA director of communications Carl Francis could not confirm the report and was not aware Upshaw was suffering from pancreatic cancer.

Upshaw was a seven-time Pro Bowl selection and an 11-time All-Pro. He was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1987. He is survived by his wife, Terri, and sons, Justin, Daniel and Eugene Jr.

[chipsahoy]

Chris Henry coming back to the Bengals shows a resurgence of the Bungals all over again.

I see another 15 year playoff drought coming along.

I hate Mike Brown.

But the good news is you will get to see the MB signs all over again.

Also I dont think Chad is seriously hurt,

He was able to hold this sign up.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/ravenman4/chadfa5.jpg

For Fletch

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc107/JustBreathe_album/l_76c9bb962ebeeda6583143451f094100.gif

And so sad, the welcoming part for Chris' return was held here
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee10/deuces422/061107_1726.jpg

[ADD]

His salsa did it

[Satan]

http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/2final.jpg

[ADD]

Tony Romo has no penis

[Satan]

And you know this...how?

[bpb]

Pwnt.

[ADD]

He's from Wisconsin. It's implied.

[Jericho]

I don't know about a dick, but he could sure use some balls

[ADD]

Jessica Simpson know owns 15% of some Dallas brewery that makes a beer called "Stampede Light Plus"?!?!?! Maybe he'll become a drunk. It sounds like a beer for chicks.

[chipsahoy]

Jessica Simpson know owns 15% of some Dallas brewery that makes a beer called "Stampede Light Plus"?!?!?! Maybe he'll become a drunk. It sounds like a beer for chicks.


Well if its a beer for chicks then he'll surely drink it.

Also I am shocked there is no Mention of Ryan Leaf in the shitty QB photo

[ADD]

"I'm Tony Romo for Stampede Light Plus..."

[chipsahoy]

"I'm Tony Romo for Stampede Light Plus..."


http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f74/chipsahoyphatty/tony-romo-for-stampede.jpg

[ADD]

He must be drinking a lot then

[Da Raider]

RIP Gene Upshaw.

[iKnowJohnStamos]

Orton FTW.

[Penguin Rick]

Good God maybe the Bears don't need to worry about their lack of a good QB. Their return game seems amazing.

[Erased]

So far i'm likin' what I see.

[Penguin Rick]

Me too, Forte looks pretty good. Well, at least better than I expected. And that o-line seems to be much improved from last year.

[bpb]

Good God maybe the Bears don't need to worry about their lack of a good QB. Their return game seems amazing.

Field goals win championships?

[Penguin Rick]

The run defense seems good. But that pass D is making JT O'Sullivan look good.

[Penguin Rick]

And just when I compliment their return game, they lose a fumble in their own red zone.

[ADD]

Field goals win championships?

Robbie Gould, 2008 MVP

[Sex Cannon]

This team fucking sucks.

Did you guys see that first ball fastball? Mark Bradley needs to run faster.

[blazerboy427]

http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/2final.jpg

Haha, Rex Grossman's brain ftw...but not really.

[Satan]

Rexy FTL

[Zilchoid]

McGahee's in the pool, attempts to ride Michael Phelps' coattails...

Willis McGahee, RB BAL
News: Baltimore Ravens RB Willis McGahee (http://bchasse.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/396170), currently limited to running in a swimming pool as he recuperates from arthroscopic surgery on his left knee, expects to be running with the football when the season starts. Although he's off crutches, McGahee isn't able to jog yet. He's targeting the Ravens' Sept. 7 season-opener against the Cincinnati Bengals for his return. "I will be ready, but I don't know about playing in the preseason," McGahee said. "We will have to wait and see. It's always making progress. Every day I come out here, it's getting better." Because he can't run yet and the clock is ticking down to the opener, McGahee is making the most out of his aquatic workouts. "I know it ain't exactly running, but running in the pool is great conditioning," McGahee said. "Just ask Michael Phelps."

What? He can't even jog, but expects to carry the rock in two weeks? Unless he's Wolverine, I'm taking the over on this recovery.

[willy62]

Mcgahee is going to be a stiff this year. Ray Rice is going to be a stud in Baltimore if they can get a QB to get the ball to him

[ShitBreak]

My predcition of Falcons >> Bears is looking better and better.

[misterfatt]

is there an under/over line for how many interceptions ryan is going to throw in his first 16 games?

[ShitBreak]

Don't get too far ahead of yourself. It's only preaseason. I'm sure the Bears Falcons and Dolphins will all be fighting real hard to draft Tim Tebow next ear.

The Falcons have their QB. They need help with the O-Line, D-Line, LBs, and Secondary.

And Ryan will throw more TDs than INTs this year. I know it's preseason and all, but he's almost played a full game's worth of reps, and his stats through that "game" would be:

17/31, 175 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

And that's for a true rookie in his first game, on a really shitty team, playing against two playoff-bound teams.

[Stax]

Don't get too far ahead of yourself. It's only preaseason. I'm sure the Bears Falcons and Dolphins will all be fighting real hard to draft Tim Tebow next ear.

Wooo, Keep Tebow in Florida!

[misterfatt]

if preseason play means anything for rookies, tom brady better watch out, because colt brennan is on his way!

[Da Raider]

if preseason play means anything for rookies, tom brady better watch out, because colt brennan is on his way!

sounds the trumpets!!!

[Kopek]

The Falcons have their QB. They need help with the O-Line, D-Line, LBs, and Secondary.

And Ryan will throw more TDs than INTs this year. I know it's preseason and all, but he's almost played a full game's worth of reps, and his stats through that "game" would be:

17/31, 175 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

And that's for a true rookie in his first game, on a really shitty team, playing against two playoff-bound teams.

So Ryan is going to come in and the Falcons are just going to outscore everyone? Seems like a half baked enough plan.

[ShitBreak]

I think Preaseason means a LOT for rookies, because they get their feet wet against true NFL players, but don't have the pressure of normal games.

But yeah, Atlanta went 3-1 last year in the preseason...and then went on to win 4 games in the rest of the season.

[Da Raider]

My league source tells me that Ryan is going to be rookie of the year and be an MVP candidate. Of course my league source is OSUMike.

[ShitBreak]

So Ryan is going to come in and the Falcons are just going to outscore everyone? Seems like a half baked enough plan.

No...and I never said the Falcons were going to be a playoff team. I think they have a decent enough defense to keep them in ballgames, and the offense should actually be pretty decent.

I see them winning more games than last year, which is an improvement. meaning 5 or 6 games.

[Tar Heel]

The Falcons have their QB. They need help with the O-Line, D-Line, LBs, and Secondary.

And Ryan will throw more TDs than INTs this year. I know it's preseason and all, but he's almost played a full game's worth of reps, and his stats through that "game" would be:

17/31, 175 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

And that's for a true rookie in his first game, on a really shitty team, playing against two playoff-bound teams.

Dude. It's preseason, so you really have no idea how he will do once the season starts. Also if he is on a team with no defense, like the falcons, he will have more INTs because he will be forced to try to win games with his arm in the 4th quarter.

[Stax]

My league source tells me that Ryan is going to be rookie of the year and be an MVP candidate. Of course my league source is OSUMike.

Thanks Ed Werder

[ShitBreak]

Dude. It's preseason, so you really have no idea how he will do once the season starts. Also if he is on a team with no defense, like the falcons, he will have more INTs because he will be forced to try to win games with his arm in the 4th quarter.

Didn't Peyton Manning throw more INTs than TDs in his first year on his shitty team?


Fuck. Well here's to Matty Ryan following the Peyton Manning plan, then.

[Tar Heel]

Didn't Peyton Manning throw more INTs than TDs in his first year on his shitty team?


Fuck. Well here's to Matty Ryan following the Peyton Manning plan, then.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You just compared Matt Ryan to Peyton Manning. I'm not going to even get into the stupidity of this argument. Dude, why don't you just sit back and let Matt Ryan do what he is going to do.

Suck ass.

[Muji]

who is Ryan going to throw all these touchdowns to? Pretty sure his recievers still suck, his running backs are either old or unproven, his o-line sucks so he will be on his back more than David Carr was

i predict he wont make it past week 4 before he isnjured and out for the whole year

only thing saving him is they play in a shitty division

[ShitBreak]

Where did I compare the two? I realized that even Manning sucked in his first year, and then I said I would like Ryan to follow in Manning's footsteps then.

Get a fucking clue. Ryan is going to be a good QB. Best Atlanta's seen since Chris Chandler!

[ShitBreak]

who is Ryan going to throw all these touchdowns to? Pretty sure his recievers still suck, his running backs are either old or unproven, his o-line sucks so he will be on his back more than David Carr was

i predict he wont make it past week 4 before he isnjured and out for the whole year

only thing saving him is they play in a shitty division

Way to know nothing.

Roddy White is god. Norwood and Turner are both semi-proven, and are 25 yrs old and 26 yrs old, respectively (yeah, the O-line kinda sucks)

And pretty sure the "shitty" South division has a Super Bowl winning team, and two teams that have been in the Super Bowl, since the realignment. And those Saints aren't half bad either.

[Tar Heel]

Where did I compare the two?

I realized that even Manning sucked in his first year, and then I said I would like Ryan to follow in Manning's footsteps then.


I think you just answered your own question there haas.

[ShitBreak]

Do the Bucs still have a player from the superbowl team on their roster other than Ronde? That was forever ago man.

If I remember right, they have 2 players left...I don't remember who the other one is though.

[misterfatt]

Do the Bucs still have a player from the superbowl team on their roster other than Ronde? That was forever ago man.
derrick brooks.

Fuck. Well here's to Matty Ryan following the Peyton Manning plan, then.
plan is already ruined.

manning wasn't a mediocre college quarterback.

[Muji]

yeah i forgot that Carolina was a great team, Falcons are awesome, Saints are awesome, oh and the Bucs who go 3-13 and then 12-4 then back to 3-13 every other year

i am sure glad Cleveland plays the shitty NFC East this year because the Falcons division is way better than the likes of Cowboys, Redskins , Eagles and the Giants

[ShitBreak]

The East is tough, but the South is better than the fuckin NFC West.

[ADD]

The Falcons make your claim retarded. The East has 4 teams that could contend for the playoffs.

[CrazyCarl]

are you sure you read that right?

[ShitBreak]

The Falcons make your claim retarded. The East has 4 teams that could contend for the playoffs.

The fuck you telling me for? I'm not the one that brought up the East. Muji was. I just said that the South is better than the NFC WEST. You misread what I said.

[ADD]

I don't read good

[Kopek]

Reading comprehension skills, kids.

[CrazyCarl]

than the West?

[ShitBreak]

Show me how the South is not better than the West.

[Zilchoid]

Saints are awesome

You mean the Saints offense is awesome, right? Because our defense is about as tough as a warm bowl of Jello. Here, I'll give you the keys to beating the Saints defense right now...

1-Check to see if the Saints are in Man-to-Man coverage. If so, proceed to Step #2.
2-Find who is being covered by Jason David.
3-Throw the ball to that receiver.

If Matt Ryan (or any other QB, for that matter) follows those steps, they'll put up monster numbers.

[ADD]

And that's what threw me for a loop. I hate you Mike.

[ShitBreak]

Whoops...ok, so I made a typo there. My original statement doesn't say it though.

[CrazyCarl]

And that's what threw me for a loop. I hate you Mike.

but that was after your initial post where your reading failed you

[ADD]

Yea, I clearly said I don't read good. By the time I saw the end part about the west, it was too late

I still hate Mike

[hatepoppy]

my herpes have brainz!

[Sex Cannon]

my herpes have herpes

[redsox39]

and everyone though TO was the crazy one.

NFC East...Best division in the NFL this year.

[Pollo]

Merriman found with torn PCL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3548277)

he's now considering season-ending surgery or he'll rehab the injury playing through the pain.

[Muji]

must be the roids lolz

[Penguin Rick]

A PCL isn't the worst thing to happen to a knee, and I'd usually think the best thing to do is get surgery now in order to have no lingering affects in the future.

But I really think this is the Chargers' year, and we gotta go balls to the wall.

[ADD]

Found with? Like he was on the run with it?

[Penguin Rick]

Yea, but I also know we got to the AFC Championship game by beating the defending champs at home with what was basically our B squad.

[iKnowJohnStamos]

Norv Turner sucks as bad as sub-title to this thread...can't we just agree that the both of them suck equally?

[Satan]

Nolan has officially declared JT O'Sullivan the starter. This is hardly shocking news, the buzz since the day we signed him was that he had a history with Martz. Noodle arm and small hands have been cast aside, maybe we can see more TDs than INTs? Nah, I won't get my hopes up.

What this shows is that Nolan is so scared for his job that he will straight up admit Smith is a bust by benching him, something I never thought he'd do. Hopefully this season passes quickly so we can fire his ass and move on.

[Pollo]

either that or they'll burn out Frank Gore like Herm Edwards did to Larry Johnson two years ago.

how is the SF offensive line looking so far?

[Satan]

Mike Martz...run...the...ball? Come on, you know better than that.

The offensive line is looking pretty mediocre at this point, they'll be better than last season for sure, but that's not saying much.

[Titus_Pullo]

Nolan has officially declared JT O'Sullivan the starter. This is hardly shocking news, the buzz since the day we signed him was that he had a history with Martz. Noodle arm and small hands have been cast aside, maybe we can see more TDs than INTs? Nah, I won't get my hopes up.

What this shows is that Nolan is so scared for his job that he will straight up admit Smith is a bust by benching him, something I never thought he'd do. Hopefully this season passes quickly so we can fire his ass and move on.

I would love to have either of them on my team.

The Philadelphia Soul, I mean.

[UghByDay]

Mike Martz...run...the...ball? Come on, you know better than that.

The offensive line is looking pretty mediocre at this point, they'll be better than last season for sure, but that's not saying much.

Between the o-line on the right side and Martz's offense, Gore will be in a black hole this season. Bet on Vernon Davis getting more touches in the red zone than Gore. Bet on Zak Keasey getting more touches in the locker room than a Catholic priest on a camping trip.

[Pollo]

Between the o-line on the right side and Martz's offense, Gore will be in a black hole this season. Bet on Vernon Davis getting more touches in the red zone than Gore. Bet on Zak Keasey getting more touches in the locker room than a Catholic priest on a camping trip.

well, I wouldn't say black hole, because Gore gets quite a bit of receptions for a RB, so there's no question you'll see his reception yards go up ... but his rushing yards are a question, but just because Martz is the OC, he'll be fine. how many years was Steven Jackson under Martz?

[CrazyCarl]

his rookie year plus like a month in 2005

[jcmanuel]

Merriman is f'd. He wont see the field this season. Freeneylike

[UghByDay]

well, I wouldn't say black hole, because Gore gets quite a bit of receptions for a RB, so there's no question you'll see his reception yards go up ... but his rushing yards are a question, but just because Martz is the OC, he'll be fine. how many years was Steven Jackson under Martz?

Only two, and Jackson didn't have his breakout season until the year after Martz was gone. His all-purpose yards doubled and he got about 100 more rushing attempts. Then he got injured. Then Georgia Frontiere died and everyone was happy.

BTW, what's with the photo they show of Bryant Gumbel after Hard Knocks? On HD it looks like they shot it with a Polaroid. It also looks like somebody punched poor Bryant in the mouth repeatedly.

[iKnowJohnStamos]

this formation the Steelers are running with Parker in shotgun and Roethlisberger at wideout is going to be sexy eventually.

[nuclearjew]

Plays like that make me wish Donovin Darius was still with the Jags.

[nuclearjew]

And the Chargers take a huge blow to the D:
Shawne Merriman admits career could be over

Shawne Merriman revealed Saturday that his career could be over. In addition to a torn PCL, Merriman has a torn LCL in his left knee. His knee requires extensive reconstructive surgery. Perhaps Merriman will chance it and play this year, but that would be foolish. His contract is up after the 2009 season and if he has the procedure, Merriman could try continuing his career afterwards. He'd risk more damage by playing on the knee in 2008. He needs to be removed from IDP draft boards. Aug. 23 - 6:13 pm et

[Gary_Busey]

That sucks hard. Hate to see that happen to anyone in the NFL.


I know it's preseason, but we're rocking the Redskins.

[Satan]

How does Colt the fag look?

[iKnowJohnStamos]

That sucks...Merriman always seemed like a really decent guy to me, there was that shit where he rebuilt houses for those wild fire victims...and he was obviously an amazing player. weak.

[nuclearjew]

How does Colt the fag look?
Doesn't look like he's in the game yet. I thought I heard he was doing well this preseason though.

[bpb]

this formation the Steelers are running with Parker in shotgun and Roethlisberger at wideout is going to be sexy eventually.

Probably on Madden but that's about it.

[Gary_Busey]

Goddamn, our offense is running on all cylinders. 34-0.

[Penguin Rick]

Merriman :(

With news of his career with San Diego probably over and my girlfriend leaving for college last night, suicide is an option.

[Gary_Busey]

Aren't you going to college too? That a fucking blessing. It's open season man.

[Penguin Rick]

Yessir, I leave in 3 weeks.

Good news is I got the green light to get faded every night now.

[Gary_Busey]

Bad news is that you need a green light.

[Pollo]

Merriman :(

With news of his career with San Diego probably over and my girlfriend leaving for college last night, suicide is an option.

and I'm still getting a feeling the Chargers are hiding something regarding his injuries ... but this is a crushing blow with Gates and Rivers both returning from injuries as well.

it does seem to me he's going to play through the pain (and was surprised to hear he had played with some of these injuries for some time):

"I've been seeing some really great doctors over the past few days and they've all said the same things about the injury," Merriman told the Times. "[They're] kind of surprised that I've been playing with it up to this point." Merriman wants to play football this season.

"That's what I want to do," Merriman told the Times. "That's why this decision is even out there still and not already made, because I want to play, period. The question is what should I do? How long should I play with it?

"It's a thousand different options at this point and I'm just trying to make the best one."

The Chargers' medical diagnosis is that Merriman can play when the season starts Sept. 7. Coach Norv Turner's talks with Merriman buoyed those hopes.

"Based on my conversation, I'm optimistic," Turner told the San Diego Union-Tribune.

[Rover]

Nolan has officially declared JT O'Sullivan the starter. This is hardly shocking news, the buzz since the day we signed him was that he had a history with Martz. Noodle arm and small hands have been cast aside, maybe we can see more TDs than INTs? Nah, I won't get my hopes up.

What this shows is that Nolan is so scared for his job that he will straight up admit Smith is a bust by benching him, something I never thought he'd do. Hopefully this season passes quickly so we can fire his ass and move on.JT O'Sullivan?!? Wow, just wow. How has he looked? If I remember right from his limited time in Detroit, he made questionable decisions and had slightly better arm strength than Chad Pennington

It sucks not having a good quarterback.....which the Lions just solved!!!

ALLEN PARK -- The Lions today added ex-Michigan quarterback Drew Henson to their roster as a replacement for the injured Drew Stanton.
Henson, who has not played in the NFL since the Minnesota Vikings cut him during their 2007 training camp, worked out Friday at the Lions headquarters in Allen Park. Henson will be the team's third quarterback behind Jon Kitna and back-up Dan Orlovsky following Stanton's loss to a thumb injury.
Sorry I had Y2K flashback and thought Henson just finished up at Michigan.

[Satan]

JT O'Sullivan?!? Wow, just wow. How has he looked? If I remember right from his limited time in Detroit, he made questionable decisions and had slightly better arm strength than Chad Pennington
He's not been too bad for a guy we picked up off the streets. It's a real testament to how Alex Smith is, he can't fucking beat out a shitty journeyman. His play isn't bad, it's just the boneheaded throws he makes from time to time.

[SilverBullet]

He's not been too bad for a guy we picked up off the streets. It's a real testament to how Alex Smith is, he can't fucking beat out a shitty journeyman. His play isn't bad, it's just the boneheaded throws he makes ALL THE time.

Fixed

[Rover]

What I really don't understand is these shitty journeyman QBs that bounce around the league for 10 years, and play for 7 teams. The front office uses lines like, "He has experience learning an NFL offense." No shit, he's been cut from 7 teams.

I guess Alex Smith will now begin a long career as a journeyman QB.

[Satan]

What I really don't understand is these shitty journeyman QBs that bounce around the league for 10 years, and play for 7 teams. The front office uses lines like, "He has experience learning an NFL offense." No shit, he's been cut from 7 teams.

I guess Alex Smith will now begin a long career as a journeyman QB.I don't even see him being able to do that. Even journeymen can make some plays, honestly this guy rarely does jackshit. The only reason people will sign him after we let him go is on the "potential" card, he probably won't spend a full season on any other team's roster.