Poker Thread

[Draven X 23]

Welcome back to the Poker thread.

Last night I stayed up and watched Scotty Nguyen win the Horse Bracelet. Of course he was pretty drunk and being a total ass the whole time. He even turned Eric Lindgren from a fan to an enemy. I doubt it was a permanent move. But it really shows that Scotty was out of hand.

[Mustard]

Alcohol does that to people?

I call bullshit.

[rustytulip]

Many of you play online? I'm rustytulip on most sites if anyone stops by...

[Hulud]

Nguyen was way out of line during that tournament. completely changed my view of who i had previously thought was one of poker's most likeable players.

[Hulud]

Many of you play online? I'm rustytulip on most sites if anyone stops by...

i play on full tilt sometimes but no money on there right now.

[runlive]

I played in a WSOP tournament...great experience...placed about in the 700s out of a full house.

[Hulud]

I played in a WSOP tournament...great experience...placed about in the 700s out of a full house.

which tourney? im hoping to do a WPT satellite in november...

[Neohesh]

i heard that the HORSE championship telecast had to be HEAVILY edited to make Scotty look even that good. DeMichelle said it best, "I though you were the Ambassador of Poker?"

[PWalk]

There is nothing scarier than a poker table at Harrah's in Atlantic City during a weekday, noon tournament. I played in one two weeks ago on a Thursday, $120, and I could honestly count the number of teeth the other competitors had total on both of my hands.

[Da Raider]

Welcome back to the Poker thread.

Last night I stayed up and watched Scotty Nguyen win the Horse Bracelet. Of course he was pretty drunk and being a total ass the whole time. He even turned Eric Lindgren from a fan to an enemy. I doubt it was a permanent move. But it really shows that Scotty was out of hand.

Eric opened that can of worms though...he started Scotty drinking...hah.

[Da Raider]

i heard that the HORSE championship telecast had to be HEAVILY edited to make Scotty look even that good. DeMichelle said it best, "I though you were the Ambassador of Poker?"

Not sure how much they edited, but they had to bleep out every other word from Scotty's mouth. He was acting like a total asshat.

[Draven X 23]

I'd really love to see the unedit footage.

[WET HOT MESS]

I could've swore this thread's title was Porker Thread.

[Draven X 23]

OK I guess it should be:

Other: Poker Thread - No Fat Chicks

[cowboy dan]

the story about Scotty's boat ride over from Viet Nam is one of the most ridiculous things i have ever heard. I forget a lot of it but I remember it involving being stranded and facing the decision to eat someone..

[footsies]

When was this on? I've always liked Scotty

[Da Raider]

It was nice seeing the Poker Brat get so close to his 12th bracelet but ultimately falling short (3rd place) in the $1,500 HORSE tourney.

Starting next Tuesday, ESPN is going to be showing the MAIN EVENT. What is strange is that the final table still has not been played.

[Draven X 23]

I think they are going to do it live or some shit.

[Da Raider]

I think they are going to do it live or some shit.

i heard it was going to be edited up and shown 1 or 2 days later...

[Draven X 23]

Ahh. I figured it just be a live PPV thing like last year. Then they'd do a mock up later.

[Hulud]

lindgren was running great first day, will be interested to see what happened with him.

[Hulud]

VPFOAfjIk9k

[Mustard]

VPFOAfjIk9k
Holy shit!

I can attest that this is a mathematical anomaly. As a professional poker dealer for over two years, only one time have I ever dealt a straight flush over quads, and it was only an eight high SF over quad 6's. On top of that, of all the people I worked with, I'm the only one to deal that bad of a beat.

It just doesn't happen at all, well, hardly at all. If you see one in person, consider yourself very fortunate (or very unlucky).

[footsies]

That had was crazy. Did anyone see the disquise that Phil Laak had on? It was a very weird old man type thing.

[Will]

1.7 billion to 1 the odds of that happening apparently.

Does anyone play much poker here, I'm kicking about on the .50/1 cash tables on full tilt if anyone fancies a game.

[Da Raider]

I'm pulling for Chino Reem. Only guy I heard of before this year's WSOP.

[Kilgore]

I didn't recognize any of those names but 2, Willy Tann and Barry Greenstein. I don't care for either one of them.

Kinda sucks not to have a horse to root for.

[kareyn01]

I think it'll come down to Chino Reem and Dennis Phillips. Assuming, of course, that Chino isn't in jail, which is (or at least was) a distinct possibility.

[Da Raider]

Phillips is chip leader I think.

[footsies]

Isn't the main event Nov 11?

[Da Raider]

yeah. On Nov 9th they are going to do the final table and stop when it gets to head's up. On Nov 10th they will play head's up and on Nov 11th it will be televised on ESPN.

I'm pulling for Chino Rheem.

[Hulud]

John Juanda won the WSOP Europe main event. considerably smaller field of course but still many of the top pros. Also notable that Demidenko (sp?) from the November 9 final tabled at this event.

[Da Raider]

Christian Dragomir from Romania is one of my new favorites.
On tonight's episode of the WSOP Main Event he bluffed out Helmuth, who then starts to berate him. After calling him an idiot for the 4th time, Dragomir starts yelling back at him.

The best part was when Phil layed down his hand and Dragomir threw down his cards face up showing his 10-4 offsuit bluff. The entire room exploded in cheers and laughter. They knew the Helmuth "blow up" was coming.

Fucking tits. If you haven't watched it, do. It's right at the end of this week's 2nd episode.

[Hawk the Slayer]

Saw this last night. Truly a thing of beauty. Hellmuth is a great player, but he's also the biggest prick in the world. The two don't necessarily have to go together.

[Hulud]

i assume that was the penalty hellmuth picked up that was then withdrawn. he got way out of line.

[Draven X 23]

Phil is a great player. His biggest issue is he does not have an internal monologue. Most people would get pissed off and think the shit he says. He does not know how to do that. Which is odd since I'd figure most people would want to beat his ass.

[Cornflake]

i assume that was the penalty hellmuth picked up that was then withdrawn. he got way out of line.
Phil rocks... I have never seen a guy correctly guess what cards his opponent has so many times...

[footsies]

Phil is a tool. I couldn't believe how long he went on. However, the only player I've seen guess cards correctly more than Phil is Daniel Negreanu. When he is dialed in, its scary.

[Bill]

Phil rocks... I have never seen a guy correctly guess what cards his opponent has so many times...

Daniel Negreanu gets it correct down to the suit. It's fucking scary.

[kareyn01]

Daniel Negreanu gets it correct down to the suit. It's fucking scary.

I love Daniel Negreanu, and I think he is great at reading opposing players, but I think he gets a little too much credit, as well. There are plenty of players out there like Allen Cunningham, and even Gus Hansen, who are extremely good at putting the other guy on a very small range of hands. The difference is that Daniel uses that information to psyche the player out by talking about it.

[Da Raider]

I love Daniel Negreanu, and I think he is great at reading opposing players, but I think he gets a little too much credit, as well. There are plenty of players out there like Allen Cunningham, and even Gus Hansen, who are extremely good at putting the other guy on a very small range of hands. The difference is that Daniel uses that information to psyche the player out by talking about it.

exactly.

Tonight's two episodes will take us down to how many players?

[footsies]

so who is the favorite now? I hated to see Matusow leave. He played well but kept running into bigger hands.

[kareyn01]

so who is the favorite now? I hated to see Matusow leave. He played well but kept running into bigger hands.

Dennis Phillips has a ton of chips, and showed that he wasn't afraid of any of the big guns in the tournament, but he also ran EXTREMELY well.

I'd have to say that Chino Reem is the favorite in terms of skill, but he is also susceptible to big swings in his chip stack, so he could either win the whole thing, or be out in 15 minutes.

[footsies]

Yeah - I like Chino. Before this WSOP, I had not watched him play very much.

I was glad to see Losev go out. Thoughts on his push/pull on Cantu?

[Hulud]

Dennis Phillips has a ton of chips, and showed that he wasn't afraid of any of the big guns in the tournament, but he also ran EXTREMELY well.

I'd have to say that Chino Reem is the favorite in terms of skill, but he is also susceptible to big swings in his chip stack, so he could either win the whole thing, or be out in 15 minutes.

i have a feeling that demidov 2nd in chips might be a good bet too... he also final tabled at the WSOP Europe main event, looked like a pretty good player on espn so far too.

[kareyn01]

Yeah - I like Chino. Before this WSOP, I had not watched him play very much.

I was glad to see Losev go out. Thoughts on his push/pull on Cantu?

Losev's push/pull was clearly a string bet, and its ridiculous that the tournament director didn't make him commit those chips to the pot. The excuse that the chips "weren't released" is moronic, because they are committed/released as soon as they are past the commit line at the table. No such line exists on the WSOP tables, so the commit line then becomes anything that is placed in front of your cards. Complete bullshit ruling.

[Jericho]

And Hellmuth is gone!

[Jericho]

So what if it's a repeat. I'm so happy

[Draven X 23]

I thought that Tiffani Michelle chick was an annoying bitch last week. But after calling time on a hand she wasn't even involved in this late in the tournament she has moved up to wretched cunt.

[footsies]

I was glad to see Tiffani go as well. That was total BS to call the clock. What was her big hurry?

The table also gave her hell for eating fries during the game.

[Da Raider]

I thought that Tiffani Michelle chick was an annoying bitch last week. But after calling time on a hand she wasn't even involved in this late in the tournament she has moved up to wretched cunt.

Everything up to that point, I could live with, but calling "time" was horseshit. It was a huge call, the guy's Main Event was on the line and she didn't even wait a minute before she called clock. That was nearly as classless as Phil H.

PS - How come Phil gets astonished at the horrible plays from other players meanwhile he donked off most of his chips cuz he couldn't get away from his pocket 3's when the flop showed 3 overcards? I'm pretty sure that his opponent was playing the late position and gave every indication that he was playing from a position of strength. Seriously, if the roles had been reversed and the other player had caught a set on the river, Phil would have exploded.

[Limp]

Phil H. bitches about how everyone plays, including himself. I swear a couple of years ago I saw a tear roll down his cheek after a bad beat.

THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL POKER!

[Da Raider]

so...now that we've seen how we got to the November 9, who's gonna win?

I know that Dennis Phillips is an amatuer, but given that he's got the biggest chip stack and he's playing very well, he's got to be one of the favorites. He's made some great calls. Demidov had success making the WSOPE main event final table and is #2 in chips. He made some good plays but even he should have got knocked out by Chino Rheem but caught a lucky card on the River. Speaking of Chino Rheem, he's had some tough plays, made some great calls, some bad calls and got lucky as well. Eastgate is a young kid, but a solid player. Two Canadians, Cunningham, good player, but his big chipstack has everything to do with a lucky win. Suharto is actually one of the lower chipstacks, but he was really active, knocking out plenty of players late in the tourney. Marquis and Kelly Kim are low chip stacks and probably just happy to be there. Kim is so low that he's going to have to move all in pretty early. Ylon Schwartz is a good player, but damn, he caught so many cards, I'm not sure what to think.

[Hulud]

I thought that Tiffani Michelle chick was an annoying bitch last week. But after calling time on a hand she wasn't even involved in this late in the tournament she has moved up to wretched cunt.

yeah she was annoying when she had chips and a straight up bitch when she got low on 'em. was glad when she busted. that danish dude eastgate is a smooth customer too smooth calling with a set of aces.

[Draven X 23]

so...now that we've seen how we got to the November 9, who's gonna win?

I know that Dennis Phillips is an amatuer, but given that he's got the biggest chip stack and he's playing very well, he's got to be one of the favorites. He's made some great calls. Demidov had success making the WSOPE main event final table and is #2 in chips. He made some good plays but even he should have got knocked out by Chino Rheem but caught a lucky card on the River. Speaking of Chino Rheem, he's had some tough plays, made some great calls, some bad calls and got lucky as well. Eastgate is a young kid, but a solid player. Two Canadians, Cunningham, good player, but his big chipstack has everything to do with a lucky win. Suharto is actually one of the lower chipstacks, but he was really active, knocking out plenty of players late in the tourney. Marquis and Kelly Kim are low chip stacks and probably just happy to be there. Kim is so low that he's going to have to move all in pretty early. Ylon Schwartz is a good player, but damn, he caught so many cards, I'm not sure what to think.

Dennis Phillips was on a good roll. But with months in between will pretty much end his momentum. It will be a whole different tournament now. The chip counts will stay the same but thats about it.

[Da Raider]

Dennis Phillips was on a good roll. But with months in between will pretty much end his momentum. It will be a whole different tournament now. The chip counts will stay the same but thats about it.

There's actually only three other players who can hurt him on an "all in" call but you are correct about momentum. 4 players are bunched near the top, 4 players bunched in the middle and then 1 short stacked player who need to double up twice to stay in it.

Dennis Phillips (http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/players/playerprofile.asp?playerID=36080)
http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/images/spacer.gif
26,295,000

Ivan Demidov (http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/players/playerprofile.asp?playerID=47319)
http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/images/spacer.gif
24,400,000

Scott Montgomery (http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/players/playerprofile.asp?playerID=41656)
http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/images/spacer.gif
19,690,000

Peter Eastgate (http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/players/playerprofile.asp?playerID=44509)
http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/images/spacer.gif
18,375,000

Ylon Schwartz (http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/players/playerprofile.asp?playerID=3270)
http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/images/spacer.gif
12,525,000

Darus Suharto (http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/players/playerprofile.asp?playerID=21552)
http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/images/spacer.gif
12,520,000

David 'Chino' Rheem (http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/players/playerprofile.asp?playerID=3587)
http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/images/spacer.gif
10,230,000

Craig Marquis (http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/players/playerprofile.asp?playerID=32360)
http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/images/spacer.gif
10,210,000

Kelly Kim (http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/players/playerprofile.asp?playerID=3473)
http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/images/spacer.gif
2,620,000

[Hulud]

i think Demidov will win it... believe I said that already, seemed like a lot of the pros on the ESPN preview agreed, he is the most in form player coming in to the table imo.

[Hulud]

November 9 update:

Marquis 9th, Kim 8th, Chino 7th, Suharto 6th, Montgomery 5th

[Hulud]

final two playing tonight 7pst

Eastgate 79mil Demidov 59mil

[NOTKyle]

Eastgate wins the whole thing.

[Draven X 23]

I'd like to thank Comcast for giving away the winner on its front page.

Fuckers.

[kareyn01]

Pretty underwhelming show tonight. I'm not sure if it was the play that was subpar, or just the coverage, or if it was just that it had been so overhyped, but there just wasn't a lot of compelling poker, other than a couple of rough beats taken by Chino and Marquis.

I was amazed, however, that Ylon Schwartz was able to get off the hook on his King-high flush heads-up with Demidov, when he only would have had to put $4 million into a $12 million pot. From their other hands against each other, it seemed like Ylon had a pretty good read on Demidov, so I'm sure that played a factor. Still a great laydown.

[mcnastasty]

I'd like to thank Comcast for giving away the winner on its front page.

Fuckers.

hah espn falls in that category

[mongo]

espn fails in every category.

[mcnastasty]

espn is my homepage. that's like saying my life fails

[mongo]

hey, i just make the statements. you draw your own conclusions.


loser.

[mcnastasty]

touché

[Hulud]

demidov laying down kings up was a pretty good fold too, he was obviously not very comfortable against eastgate

[mcnastasty]

eastgate got cards, then flops, then turns, and rivers. demidov was just thinking that he can't be catching this many cards..

[mcnastasty]

i'm still pissed at myself that i didn't play poker in vegas last week, i pissed my money away on let it ride and caribbean stud

[Bastard]

Dennis Phillips was on a good roll. But with months in between will pretty much end his momentum. It will be a whole different tournament now. The chip counts will stay the same but thats about it.


So true. I thought that Dennis made a mistake early on when he didn’t push with his AK against Ivan. Ivan was pretty ballsy with that AQ. Dennis lost a huge pot in that hand and I can’t help but wonder what would have happened if he had gone all in preflop. Not to say that Dennis isn’t a good player but he certainly seemed off at the final table. He still seemed to try and intimidate players or buy pots when he wasn’t the chip leader and it would cost him. Ivan certainly had a good read on Dennis.

[NOTKyle]

Ivan certainly had a good read on Dennis.

That's exactly it. He knew he had AK so he showed KK/AA and proved how unsure of his reads Phillips is.

[Orestes]

ESPN pissed me off this year. What did they show, 2 or 3 hands heads up? It was bullshit. I heard it went on for hours and most was pretty uneventful. But you can't show week after week of thousands of players and show 2 hands of heads up for the win. Fucking weak, man. They dropped the ball.

The worst part is this is the best two players I've seen heads up for the championship in a few years.

[Hulud]

yeah that sucked that they did it that way... broadcast should have been longer imo... maybe a 3 or 4 hour special.

[NOTKyle]

Have any of you guys ever tried, or thought of trying out, PokerTracker (http://www.pokertracker.com/)? Seems interesting, and I feel like it could really help my online game out.

Not sure if it's worth paying for though.

[Kilgore]

I was playing holdem with my boys last night. I had a king and a seven in my hand. My buddy had a pair of nines. When all the cards were laid out their was two kings and a seven and a nine.

So I had a King, King, King, seven, seven full house
and he had a Nine, Nine, Nine, King, King full house.

We argued over who won the hand for 15 minutes. We looked it up and some site gave it to him.

Is that correct?

[NOTKyle]

You obviously win. Kings over sevens clearly beats nines over kings.

Kings > 9

How much money did you lose?

[Kilgore]

We were both all in. He won the $25 pot 15 minutes later.

[NOTKyle]

You got screwed out of $25 then.

Basic rule of thumb: higher cards win.

[Hulud]

had this happen before with a buddy where we both had full houses, as DrDeath said its always the higher full house regardless of pocket pairs, etc.

[Hulud]

Chino Rheem won the final major tourney of 2008, the 15000 dollar buy in Doyle Brunson classic at Bellagio. Nice way for him to end a big year, another 1.5 mil. Matusow busted in 9th.

Also this week John Phan won the Cardplayer player of the year.

[The Dude]

i've been playing a lot of 5 card stud lately and really enjoying it (read:winning)

[Mustard]

5 card stud huh? Well, at least there is more skill involved in that game than say.... video poker, but not by much.

[Willam]

If anyone is interested, here's a link for a free poker site that you can win real money on (if you win around 100,000 chips):

http://www.centpoker.com/?opcode=14268 (http://www.centpoker.com/?opcode=14268)

[Hulud]

i've been playing a lot of 5 card stud lately and really enjoying it (read:winning)

i havent played much stud at all... pretty much stick to hold em and a little omaha. gotta get into limit poker a bit more, would probably be much better for my FT bankroll

[NOTKyle]

If anyone is interested, here's a link for a free poker site that you can win real money on (if you win around 100,000 chips):

http://www.centpoker.com/?opcode=14268 (http://www.centpoker.com/?opcode=14268)

http://yourpokercash.com/

Sounds like an absolute scam, but I've received $50 on Absolute and Cake already. It takes a long time to process, but it works.

[Willam]

http://yourpokercash.com/

Sounds like an absolute scam, but I've received $50 on Absolute and Cake already. It takes a long time to process, but it works.


Not a scam, no way to lose money because you can't deposit any. Will you get paid? Who knows. But it is another free poker site.

[Hoser]

This is gay, I am playing online and 2 of use had an A, then 2 A's came up on the flop and J's on the turn and river. SO we both had Full house A's and J's, but they gave him the win.

[Hulud]

NBC Heads Up Championship is going on right now, today was day 2. won't post many results as I'm not sure when the show airs... lets just say Jesus won't be repeating.

[Draven X 23]

I hate poker sometimes. I'm in a $15K total prize money tournament. Over 1000 people in it. And I get only a couple good starting hands. And they just lost me money.

Finished 502nd.

Being card dead and unlucky Sucks!!!!!!!!

[NOTKyle]

http://turningstone.com/game/pokerempire.php

I'm gonna try to scrape up the cash to play in a few of these. Closest thing to a huge tournament I'll ever get in this area, and you only need to be 18.