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BIG PIZZLE
08-21-2008, 08:41 PM
As if there isnt enough bullshit in our food. The way I see it, some contaminants are healthy because they help your body build up immunity. Even though this radiation is going to kill ecoli and shit, it will also impair the development of antibodies due to the fact that everything we eat is going to be freakishly sterile like claydon.


http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/08/21/irradiated.produce.ap/index.html


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Consumers worried about salad safety may soon be able to buy fresh spinach and iceberg lettuce zapped with just enough radiation to kill E. coli and a few other germs.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/HEALTH/08/21/irradiated.produce.ap/art.spinach.gi.jpg The FDA said irradiation doesn't compromise the safety or nutrient value of raw spinach and lettuce.


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The Food and Drug Administration on Friday will issue a new regulation allowing spinach and lettuce sellers to take that extra step, a long-awaited move amid increasing outbreaks from raw produce.
It doesn't excuse dirty produce, warned Dr. Laura Tarantino, FDA's chief of food additive safety. Farms and processors still must follow standard rules to keep the greens as clean as possible -- and consumers, too, should wash the leaves before eating.

"What this does is give producers and processors one more tool in the toolbox to make these commodities safer and protect public health," Tarantino said.

Irradiated meat has been around for years, particularly ground beef that is a favorite hiding spot for E. coli. Spices also can be irradiated.

But the Grocery Manufacturers Association had petitioned the FDA to allow a list of fresh produce and other foods to be irradiated as well -- starting with leafy greens that have sparked numerous recent outbreaks, including E. coli in spinach that in 2006 killed three people and sickened nearly 200.

The industry group wouldn't name salad suppliers ready to start irradiating. But it expects niche marketing to trickle out first -- bags of spinach and lettuce targeted to high-risk populations such as people with weak immune systems "who right now may be afraid to eat uncooked produce," said GMA's chief science officer Robert Brackett.

"It's one big step forward in improving the safety of fresh produce," he added.

A leading food safety expert said irradiation indeed can kill certain bacteria safely -- but it doesn't kill viruses that also increasingly contaminate produce, and it isn't as effective as tightening steps to prevent contamination starting at the farm.

"It won't control all hazards on these products," cautioned Caroline Smith DeWaal of the Center for Science in the Public Interest.

She questioned why the FDA hasn't addressed her agency's 2006 call to require growers to document such things as how they use manure and ensure the safety of irrigation water. Irrigation is one suspect in this summer's nationwide salmonella outbreak attributed first to tomatoes and then to Mexican hot peppers.

"We are not opposed to the use of irradiation," DeWaal said. But, "it's expensive and it doesn't really address the problem at the source."
Won't zapping leafy greens with X-rays or other means of radiation leave them limp? Not with today's modern techniques and the right dose, the FDA decided.

The FDA determined that irradiation can kill E. coli, salmonella and listeria, as well as lengthen the greens' shelf life, without compromising the safety, texture or nutrient value of raw spinach lettuce.

E. coli actually is fairly sensitive to radiation, while salmonella and listeria require more energy. While irradiation doesn't sterilize, the FDA ruled that food companies could use a dose proven to dramatically reduce levels of those germs, a dose somewhat lower than meat requires.

But consumers shouldn't consider irradiation a panacea, either. While E. coli and salmonella tend to affect more people and make bigger headlines, consumer advocate DeWaal has found that norovirus contamination is a leading cause of produce outbreaks.

The irradiation rule goes into effect Friday. The FDA still is considering industry's petition to allow irradiation of additional produce. The grocery manufacturers group will push for other greens, such as Romaine lettuce, to be next, so that producers could irradiate bags of salad mixes.

While irradiated foods initially caused some consumer concern, FDA's Tarantino stressed that the food itself harbors no radiation.

"There is no residue, there's nothing left and certainly no radioactivity left," she said.

Claydon
08-21-2008, 08:44 PM
Good...

The use of radiation on meat has significantly improved the safety of those products.

Tar Heel
08-22-2008, 08:05 AM
...says the sickly looking nerd boy.

I like to test my immune system every now and then.

janois
08-22-2008, 08:14 AM
Between the radiation and hormones in the food my kids are going to be giant supervillians.

kid_vidrio
08-22-2008, 08:33 AM
big whoop.
cold pasteurized = irradiated.
gamma passes right through.
you've been consuming food treated this way for years.

fuldstændigamok
08-22-2008, 08:38 AM
big whoop.
cold pasteurized = irradiated.
gamma passes right through.
you've been consuming food treated this way for years.

Nuhuh, I have my own cow.

Limp
08-22-2008, 08:41 AM
Nuhuh, I have my own cow.
How is the wife these days?

VoxAngelikus
08-22-2008, 08:42 AM
I was hoping this thread was about Rob's asshole.

Claydon
08-22-2008, 09:39 AM
big whoop.
cold pasteurized = irradiated.
gamma passes right through.
you've been consuming food treated this way for years.

for once, you and i are in total agreement.

freegood
08-22-2008, 12:02 PM
There's radiation in our food and everywhere. Carbon dating compares the amount of radioactive carbon 14 found in our bodies.

yard
08-25-2008, 05:40 AM
we are expose to low rad levels every day...
heck, the sun doses us every day...

kareyn01
08-25-2008, 09:20 AM
Another option that is starting to gain steam (and that I personally think will become the primary choice) is treating fruits and vegetables with ozone, which will also kill E coli and salmonella without compromising organically grown produce (that just shows how clean the chemistry actually is).

In addition, treating produce with ozone can substantially increase the amount of time that it stays fresh (up to 400% in some cases).

The main company implementing the technology is called Purfresh, and they are already partners with Pepsi, Chiquita, and Proctor and Gamble.

yard
08-26-2008, 05:42 AM
so we can create enough ozone to purify the world food supp;ly, but we cannot replenish the ozone destroyed by the cfc's......
damn liberal nuts......

zeronine
08-26-2008, 06:24 AM
so we can create enough ozone to purify the world food supp;ly, but we cannot replenish the ozone destroyed by the cfc's......
damn liberal nuts......

Clearly there's a conspiracy.

Okie Medicvet
08-26-2008, 05:04 PM
Most of the food we eat is already biologically engineered. I am not talking about buying the bulls most like to produce calves, but rathere dair cows living in areas they can barely move in, and their milk is not just pasteurized, there is also the hormones and antibiotics they are fed and that we eat second hand. It's only a matter of time when that will com back to bite us on the ass. ..when a 'supew' toxic stew is created that humans have little to know immunity of..I think it would be the height of irony to have the descendants of those who took over the new world, killing Indians by disease (some quite deliberatly by giving them pox infected blankets, to be the ones who can adapt better to the next major pandemic Untol millions died from diseases like small pox and syphillis, even minor colds ike measles would kill off many native americans in that region..and then of course you always have those who flee, and since there was no quarantine, they did flee their illness, but rather took it with them wherever they went.

No matter where you look these days, there are acts that need to be made up for..and I would love it to organized along the lines of what Obama is talking about...community service...that way there could be concrete things that could be seen and appreciated..to me, that is what reparations are about..not a gimme or handout, but a way for people who never would have had the chance otherwise to get a leg up.

after Cherynobel, the reindeer of the scandinavian natons, would test them, and then if they wer too high on the rads, they were to allowed to eat them, or even to give their milk to children.

can you think would anything be able to meet those standards after an even 'limited' nuclear war ('limited' nuke strikes,now there's an oxymoron for sure!)

And I'm sorry I know I skipped around the main subject for a bit, and threw out some things that while it may not appear they connect, have a lot in common.

yard
08-26-2008, 06:12 PM
Clearly there's a conspiracy.

LOL... CLEARLY.....

Genius
08-26-2008, 06:15 PM
I love how everyone is an expert on things that they clearly know jackshit about.