Greatest Gangsta movies

[rustytulip]

Whilst flicking through the movie channels in the week I stumbled upon the classic "Goodfellas". I've got it on DVD, seen it possibly a dozen times and it was still awesome to watch again! When comparing it to the likes of "The godfather" and "Casino" I still think it's the all time top gangsta movie. I was quite impressed with "American Gangster" and reflecting back on it in a few years might add to its reputation.

[Fuh Q]

Godfather Pt 2

[rustytulip]

Thank you for your in depth meaningful contribution to this topic...

[Night Hawk]

Bronx Tale is a pretty decent guinea flick. Not on par with godfather or goodfellas though.

[Le Goat]

anything with dead blacks

[bpb]

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[Francis Drake]

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[Jack Bauer]

i always enjoyed once upon a time in america. not really a big gangster movie but its fucking quality

[nuclearjew]

Bronx Tale is a pretty decent guinea flick. Not on par with godfather or goodfellas though.
That movie is awful. I liked it when I was a kid but I rewatched it about a year ago...fucking retarded.

[MemphisVon]

Check out Donnie Brasco. Awesome film that doesn't get that much credit. I can watch it again and again.

Forget about it is like if you agree with someone, you know, like Raquel Welch is one great piece of ass, forget about it. But then, if you disagree, like A Lincoln is better than a Cadillac? Forget about it! you know? But then, it's also like if something's the greatest thing in the world, like mingia those peppers, forget about it. But it's also like saying Go to hell! too. Like, you know, like "Hey Paulie, you got a one inch pecker?" and Paulie says "Forget about it!" Sometimes it just means forget about it.

[detroitwilly]

this thread says "gangsta movie"
so I can say this.

Training Day.

That movie was "gangsta" to the core.

[rustytulip]

Check out Donnie Brasco. Awesome film that doesn't get that much credit. I can watch it again and again.

Now that's a good call! And I bet you can get it for a couple of quid in a bargain bin!

[muthastone]

Goodfellas. Nothing touches it.

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[TheImpossibleMan]

Gangster films = films about Al Capone
Gangsta films = films about 50 Cent and life in the ghetto

I always thought Casino got a bum rap, I think it's better than Goodfellas, frankly. Well, maybe that's unfair; I certainly like watching Casino more, I'll leave it at that. Training Day is great but the telescoping of the timeline so that everything happens in one day is contrived and hurts versmilitude. Godfather's I and II are overrated but still ridiculously awesome films, the sections in II with DeNiro contain some of my favorite movie scenes ever, just great stuff.

[nuclearjew]

Casino better than Goodfellas? GTFO. That's a banworthy statement.

[The GWD]

I love Casino, but there's no way it's better than Goodfellas.

Maybe it's just because everytime I watch it I'm just waiting for the part where they...
bury Joe Pesci alive.

[nuclearjew]

The end of Casino is the only good thing about it. Cuz that means it's over.

[The GWD]

And they play House of the Rising Sun.

[bixby]

Godfather's I and II are overrated but still ridiculously awesome films, the sections in II with DeNiro contain some of my favorite movie scenes ever, just great stuff.

I've never understood what people mean when they say shit like this. "Yeah, it's fucking awesome, but overrated." It's like, yeah, it's a great movie, but it didn't give me free blowjobs and pudding, so I'd give it an A, at the most.

Is there some level above "fucking awesome" that I'm unaware of?

Also, Goodfellas wrecks all of Scorsese's other movies in that genre for this insane shot alone:

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[nuclearjew]

And TIM wonders why I said he'd be the kind of douchebag to pick George Lazenby as the best Bond.

[Erased]

I'm gonna have to jump on the bandwagon here and go with Goodfellas

[TheImpossibleMan]

I've never understood what people mean when they say shit like this. "Yeah, it's fucking awesome, but overrated." It's like, yeah, it's a great movie, but it didn't give me free blowjobs and pudding, so I'd give it an A, at the most.

Is there some level above "fucking awesome" that I'm unaware of?

Godfather I and II are great films, and even though I don't know what they beat, they probably deserved best picture each year. But a lot of people - a LOT of people - talk about them like they're each one of the five to ten best films ever, which I think is crazy talk. They're awesome, awesome films, but they don't rank as arguably the greatest films ever made, at least not for my money.

[TheImpossibleMan]

And TIM wonders why I said he'd be the kind of douchebag to pick George Lazenby as the best Bond.
:mad:

Like I said, I just like watching Casino more.

[nuclearjew]

:mad:

Like I said, I just like watching Casino more.
I don't even see how that's possible, unless you're watching it in an ironic way, much like how I enjoy watching Showgirls.

[Syndicate]

Casino > Goodfellas

Just my opinion. I always thought it was a better film overall, and also I think I'm burnt out on Goodfellas. I must seen that move like 5000 times by now.

[TheImpossibleMan]

WHAT BITCHES

WHAT

[nuclearjew]

I must need to see Casino again, because all I remember is that it felt like DeNiro and Pesci phoned in their roles, and Sharon Stone was completely over-the-top and shitty. It seemed like a complete wannabe retread of Goodfellas.

[The GWD]

They beat the shit out of, and buried Joe Pesci alive!

[bixby]

I'll say Goodfellas, since I think the Godfather movies (the first two, anyway) are kind of beyond just "Gangster" movies.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Don't be "that guy" Jew, the guy who hates on something just because it's fashionable to do so.

[Hanover Fist]

This gangster talk for some reason makes me wish there was a Guy Ritchie marathon on tv.

[nuclearjew]

Don't be "that guy" Jew, the guy who hates on something just because it's fashionable to do so.
I'm pretty much the epitome of not that guy.

I saw Casino like 12 years ago and it sucked and I haven't had a desire to watch it since.

[bixby]

Could Heat be considered a gangster movie? It's a crime drama.

Fuck it, I'll say Heat, too. It's probably more in the heist genre, but I don't care.

Also, Deniro's last awesome performance.

[The GWD]

Could Heat be considered a gangster movie? It's a crime drama.

Fuck it, I'll say Heat, too. It's probably more in the heist genre, but I don't care.

Also, Deniro's last awesome performance.

Righteous Kill (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034331/) looks like it could be pretty good.

Also, what about Shark Tale?!

[bixby]

I saw a commercial for Righteous Kill last night. It spent most it's time just flashing the names of the good movies Pacino and Deniro were in, then it said "the greatest actors of our generation, together for the first time!"

The fuck? You forgot Heat, you motherfuckers.

Also, who's generation? Our parents? They were untouchable back in their younger days, but the movie Deniro opened up the new millennium with was The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle. And Pacino's become this raspy voiced, screaming geriatric.

[The GWD]

Maybe they mean partners in a movie for the first time.

On the same side, for the first time.

[muthastone]

After reading through this thread, I think I'm gonna have to watch Casino again.

[Mr. Brown]

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No just kidding. I really like the Godfather series (getting that on Blu-Ray) I really like Carlitio's Way. I'm not sure if that counts. and I have to give to to the Departed.

The long take from Goodfellas when they go into restaurant is one that I've studied for it's technical and amazing cinematography.

[Snatch]

I just don't understand how The Departed was the film to win Scorsese an Oscar. That really bothers me.

[vasili denisov]

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[Draven X 23]

Umm so is this about Gangsta Flicks like Boyz in da Hood?
Or Gangster like Donnie Brascoe?

[Dragon]

Ok I'm giving up "Infernal Affairs" (the original script that was adapted for The Departed) and Mean Streets (Scoresse's first big film with DeNiro and Harvey Keitel).

[thestronz]

I always had a particular affinity to Carlito's Way...especially this scene

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[Mr. Brown]

I feel bad that I didn't' see the source material for The Departed until afterward. but the cast in the departed was so damn money. (I have swingers paying on my TV right now)

[The Batman]

This is sort of a gangster movie and one of my personal favorites.

http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/Heat-thumb.jpg

Otherwise, its got to be Godfather II

[Dragon]

I feel bad that I didn't' see the source material for The Departed until afterward. but the cast in the departed was so damn money. (I have swingers paying on my TV right now)

I didn't see it until after also. Still holding out hope they go forward and make the trilogy happen just like Infernal Affairs 1-3. Could easily be done if they act sooner rather than later and get cracking on it. I believe (haven't seen them yet....) 2 or 3 is a flashback movie for the most part. So you could still have Leo and Damon and Nicholson and the main cast back.

[Night Hawk]

No i believe i read somewhere that the 2nd one is in the works and that it is NOT a flashback... Something about DeNiro being a congressman showing how high the corruption goes.

[Bastard]

If you’re going to talk about great gangster films, you have to include John Woo and the incredible Chow Yun-Fat.
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[vasili denisov]

The killer had a .45, they want a .45.

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[Change]

How the fuck hasn't Scarface been mentioned?!
It's the best gangster film ever.

Also for the record Casino is better then Goodfellas

[Mr. Brown]

Seriously Scarface is not all that. He's not even gangster(sta) he's a punk thug. He had not one ounce of class. What respect for anything did he have?

[Change]

Cocaine.....

[MemphisVon]

Aren't we forgetting Pulp Fiction, that had some gangsta ass shit.

[Mr. Brown]

Cocaine.....
and.............fail.

[Mr. Brown]

Aren't we forgetting Pulp Fiction, that had some gangsta ass shit.
Some gangsta but not a gangsta movie.

[doors43]

Goodfellas > Casino

Jesus.

And I liked A Bronx Tale, but not more than Goodfellas. I fell asleep during Donnie Brasco, but I did like the Untouchables.

[Change]

and.............fail.
Ok how about get fucked! Scarface is a gangster film.

[vasili denisov]

I always thought, if it's got gangstas, gangsta movie. Scarface has gangstas, Scarface gangsta movie. All the Pretty Horses? No gangstas. Garden State? Angsta, not gangsta.

[Mr. Brown]

Ok how about get fucked! Scarface is a gangster film.

I always thought, if it's got gangstas, gangsta movie. Scarface has gangstas, Scarface gangsta movie. All the Pretty Horses? No gangstas. Garden State? Angsta, not gangsta.
What "gang" is in the movie Tony and a few of his boys? The cartel that comes after him?

That's like saying Crank is a gangsta movie b/c it has a bunch of guys working together.

[Night Hawk]

What "gang" is in the movie Tony and a few of his boys? The cartel that comes after him?

That's like saying Crank is a gangsta movie b/c it has a bunch of guys working together.

I completely agree.

Tony Montana only had like 4 or 5 guys.. thats called a GROUP... not a GANG!

You can't have gangsters without a gang... therefore its not a gangsta movie...

[Mr. Brown]

Tony couldn't even go to the mattress. He would just get a bunk beds or a sleep sofa.

[vasili denisov]

What "gang" is in the movie Tony and a few of his boys? The cartel that comes after him?
You see 4-5 guys, but you assume they've got street level people working for them throughout the city, same way you assume there's a larger crew than Nicholson, three old people, and DiCaprio in The Departed.

That's like saying Crank is a gangsta movie b/c it has a bunch of guys working together.
Sounds like someone's a little cranksta this morning.

[Mr. Brown]

You see 4-5 guys, but you assume they've got street level people working for them throughout the city, same way you assume there's a larger crew than Nicholson, three old people, and DiCaprio in The Departed.

Sounds like someone's a little cranksta this morning.
Runners don't count.

What three old people? He had that whole crew that DiCaprio was working with. The other guy who was a mole and people who were watching them.

[vasili denisov]

Runners don't count.

What three old people? He had that whole crew that DiCaprio was working with. The other guy who was a mole and people who were watching them.
The crew he was always working with were the three old people (French, Fitzy, and the irish guy). I like the Departed, but it was ridiculous. Because Nicholson's all, "Gee, who's leaking all this high level information? Hmmm...there're the three guys I've worked with for years, and then this new guy who just joined and recently dropped out of the police academy. Hmmm...no idea who it could be. Oh well, I'll just draw some naked women now."

And I don't mean runners, I mean mid-level organization people below Tony and his immediate crew.

[Mr. Brown]

The crew he was always working with were the three old people (French, Fitzy, and the irish guy). I like the Departed, but it was ridiculous. Because Nicholson's all, "Gee, who's leaking all this high level information? Hmmm...there're the three guys I've worked with for years, and then this new guy who just joined and recently dropped out of the police academy. Hmmm...no idea who it could be. Oh well, I'll just draw some naked women now."

And I don't mean runners, I mean mid-level organization people below Tony and his immediate crew.
Yeah but with the departed you know he had to have some other guys to help set up that deal for the microchips. And he had to have connects for keeping an eye on Matt while a cop and keeping track of the cell phone etc. Not saying Tony didn't have something like that, but there wasn't much to his crew ie not gang.

[vasili denisov]

Yeah but with the departed you know he had to have some other guys to help set up that deal for the microchips. And he had to have connects for keeping an eye on Matt while a cop and keeping track of the cell phone etc. Not saying Tony didn't have something like that, but there wasn't much to his crew ie not gang.
At this point, in some ways it doesn't matter because Tony Montana is a gangster, if not the gangster, simply by perception. Having a sense of the underlying organization like you do in Godfather or Goodfellas, would be considered a welcome, but an inessential part of the genre.

[Mr. Brown]

I can agree with that.

[zero]

http://naked.actors.nu/photos/938875/bloodinbloodoutboundbyhonor-damianchapa.jpg
one of my personal favorites a great movie with a great cast

[TheImpossibleMan]

In the Departed, I think some of the assumption is that we're missing a lot of Nicholson's free time: He works with a ton of people and a lot of crews, but we only see DiCaprio's time with him because he's the main character.

[Mr. Brown]

Yeah I doubt that he would have been such a big fish to the feds and Staties if all he did was what we saw his hands in.

[Sir Droopy]

Menace to Society
Set it off
Good Fellas
Scarface

[Mr. Brown]

Yes to everything except Set it off. It's a good movie, but it aint gangsta.

[Menace2Sobriety]

Goodfellas defines this genre.

Others:
Lock Stock
Snatch
GodFather
Layer Cake
Blow

[Jason]

Definitely Goodfellas. What about American Gangster? I liked that one.

[FarEastFornicator]

The end of Casino with the bats fucked my shit up. Still, nothing touches Goodfellas goodness because you can really relate with the character and his feelings growing up and all the way up to the end of movie.

[danimalcrackers]

am i the only one who liked casino more than goodfellas?

[nuclearjew]

am i the only one who liked casino more than goodfellas?
Read thru the 3 pages of thread, homotard.

[danimalcrackers]

i don't have the time for that! you must cater to my needs!

[nuclearjew]

Anyways, you share the same thoughts as TIM and Syndicate, two opposing ends of the spectrum. I honestly don't get how anyone could like Casino more than Goodfellas.

[danimalcrackers]

maybe cause don rickles was effin amazing

[danimalcrackers]

my favorite movie of all time is a bronx tale, so what do i know

[FarEastFornicator]

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can't believe you left out these classics

[Menace2Sobriety]

Anyways, you share the same thoughts as TIM and Syndicate, two opposing ends of the spectrum. I honestly don't get how anyone could like Casino more than Goodfellas.
Maybe they suffer from mental deficiencies? Could you understand then?

[Oggie]

Just so you all know, if you say Scarface, you're a tool.
It's easily the most overrated movie out there.
Miller's Crossing rules.

[nirvanasaves]

My favorite has to be Miller's Crossing

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[Mister Mobius]

King of New York, hands down!

[Mister Mobius]

Also, Mobsters, Hoodlum, and Valachi Papers were cool.

[LethalStrike]

State of Grace

[Kingofpain26]

King of New York, hands down!


I was just about to ask why this movie hasnt been mentioned yet!, one of the few movies that is Both Ganster and gansta at the same time.

Same deal with the Bumpy Johnson Saga:
(The Breakfast Club, Hoodlum, American Gansta)

and I Agree Goodfellas > Casino

[wmgabe74]

The Departed, for my vote, not better than Goodfellas, but Jack Nicholson kills me.

[dafrk3in]

The Departed was awesome. Go new school