View Full Version : MLB: NL West: Manny for President!
The Dude
08-10-2008, 03:18 PM
How long will the Honeymoon last?
Pollo
08-10-2008, 09:50 PM
I fucking hope it lasts past this season, despite rumors he wants to go to the Yankess to stick it to Boston.
and the past two losses to the Giants were just brutal. it's almost like they don't want to be a .500+ team.
Lone Wolf
08-10-2008, 09:52 PM
He's playing for the right guy in Joe Torre.
I don't see him cutting his mane to play in NY
Pollo
08-10-2008, 09:54 PM
and if he were to go back to the AL, does he primarily want to be a DH? is Nady signed past this season?
losing Manny would be a huge dagger to the Dodgers, unless they are really optimistic they can sign Tex and move Loney to LF. heck, I'd try to re-sign Manny and bring Tex on board because we badly need hitters with how impatient some of our hitters are. if we can do that, we can then part with Ethier + prospects for a SP like Bedard or Halladay.
Lone Wolf
08-10-2008, 09:56 PM
I think Manny is going to end up liking LA and it's more laid back style.
IamMrDJ
08-14-2008, 12:09 PM
I think Manny is going to end up liking LA and it's more laid back style.
I see that too. It is still the Dodger's but it is not the full on spotlight that the Red Sox and Yankees get. Plus the NL west is not as super competitive as the AL East is so he will not always be under the microscope if he has a mini-slump.
BooBooBear
08-14-2008, 01:21 PM
Let's see how Manny does once he sign a contract.
Pollo
08-14-2008, 10:58 PM
Let's see how Manny does once he sign a contract.
and that's my main worry if Manny gets that type of deal from us ... and knowing the contracts that Colletti & McCourt have given to the likes of Schmidt, Jones, and Pierre (to name a few), I have a feeling they will be overpaying to try to get Manny to stay. no one (not even the Yankees) will be giving Manny 25 million/season nor a 4-year deal (unless there's a club option for the 4th year) ... and we all know how Manny feels about club options.
Best overpaid OF EVER could be in LA. Pierre, Jones and Manny. Might as well make a play for Dunn while you're at it.
runlive
08-15-2008, 12:18 AM
Glad to have the Mannyisms in LA...
TheImpossibleMan
08-15-2008, 12:20 AM
Best overpaid OF EVER could be in LA. Pierre, Jones and Manny. Might as well make a play for Dunn while you're at it.
You do realize that Manny is .317/.417/.566 on the season?
You do realize that Manny is .317/.417/.566 on the season?
He's talking about the future deal they were discussing. If Manny got a 4 year/$25 million a year deal he would be vastly overpaid.
Pollo
08-15-2008, 01:13 PM
He's talking about the future deal they were discussing. If Manny got a 4 year/$25 million a year deal he would be vastly overpaid.
since you put it that way, those are the perfect ingredients for Colletti and McCourt to surely screw up an offer him an extension of that sort. :(
if he were to leave, I don't see the Yankees going after him with how Nady is doing right now. and of course we can scratch Boston of the list of big-market teams. so which teams could possibly be in the mix?
I would think the Mets and Angels, but with the Angels very slim since I see them offering a load to get Tex to re-sign. the Phillies could be another possibility if they decide to part with Burrell. if not those teams, I can see Manny returning to the Ravine since it seems he loves the culture here.
You do realize that Manny is .317/.417/.566 on the season?
You really need to start reading the full discussion before quoting people
SK000000BY
08-15-2008, 01:48 PM
If manny stays in the NL West, the rest of the teams are screwed.
The Padres are going to continue to be cellar dwellars for the next 5-6 years at least, if not decade.
The Giants will eventually come around, but it's going to take a few more seasons.
If manny stays in the NL West, the rest of the teams are screwed.
The Padres are going to continue to be cellar dwellars for the next 5-6 years at least, if not decade.
The Giants will eventually come around, but it's going to take a few more seasons.
The Giants very easily could go the route of the Padres. Amazing young pitching, but no offense.
In the end, I think Manny goes elsewhere (he was told to get a hair cut, only cut off an inch saying if he comes back next season he'll cut it all. Not saying this is the only reason I feel this way, but he's acting like a mercenary right now), but if he stays the Dodgers are indeed the top contender in a pathetic NL West. I still wouldn't count out a healthy Diamondbacks squad.
I think the Rockies and Padres clean house this off season.
TheImpossibleMan
08-15-2008, 01:52 PM
You really need to start reading the full discussion before quoting people
I HATE READING
Pollo
08-15-2008, 01:53 PM
If manny stays in the NL West, the rest of the teams are screwed.
The Padres are going to continue to be cellar dwellars for the next 5-6 years at least, if not decade.
The Giants will eventually come around, but it's going to take a few more seasons.
supposedly it's rumored the Padres' owner is going through a nasty divorce, so they'll be the Marlins of this offseason getting rid of payroll (hence why they wanted to part with Brian Giles). it's not to say Peavy or Gonzalez will go anywhere, but with a lack of a farm system, they might part with one of those guys to build for the future.
the Giants need to realize that old trash isn't going to yield a competitive team. they have an intriguing rotation for years to come, but what good hitting prospects does SF have? I know they drafted Buster Posey (catcher from Florida St. this past draft), but are there any others? Fred Lewis isn't a bad player, he just needs to work on his defense.
The Giants very easily could go the route of the Padres. Amazing young pitching, but no offense.
In the end, I think Manny goes elsewhere (he was told to get a hair cut, only cut off an inch saying if he comes back next season he'll cut it all. Not saying this is the only reason I feel this way, but he's acting like a mercenary right now), but if he stays the Dodgers are indeed the top contender in a pathetic NL West. I still wouldn't count out a healthy Diamondbacks squad.
I think the Rockies and Padres clean house this off season.
The Rockies have no business cleaning house. So long as they hang onto Holliday (they already chose to not trade Fuentes) they should be just as ready to slam around a weak NL West next year.
They held on to Fuentes because no one would give them what they asked for. I fully expect them to field offers on everyone this winter
Pollo
08-15-2008, 01:56 PM
they won't be keeping Holliday with Scott Boras as his agent. and with trade rumors he had this season despite going to the WS last year, I think he's all but a goner from Colorado this offseason. Atkins could also be traded, too.
CrazyCarl
08-18-2008, 08:39 PM
Dodgers reportedly get Maddux in trade with Padres (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3541723)
The Dodgers addressed their offense for the stretch run by acquiring Manny Ramirez. Now it looks like they've done something about the pitching staff.
The Los Angeles Times reported on Monday night that the team had completed a deal with the Padres for veteran right-hander Greg Maddux. Citing an anonymous person close to the deal, the newspaper did not know who San Diego would receive in return.
Maddux has a 3.99 ERA this season but is only 6-9 for a Padres team that has languished in last place in the weak NL West. The Dodgers moved into a first-place tie with the Diamondbacks in the division on Sunday.
Los Angeles had a need for another starter, however, after putting right-hander Brad Penny on the disabled list last week.
This will be Maddux's second stint with the Dodgers. The Cubs traded him to Los Angeles at the trade deadline in 2006 and he went 6-3 in the regular season for the Dodgers. Los Angeles lost to the Mets in the divisional series.
The Dodgers completed a trade for Ramirez with the Red Sox on Aug. 1, and he has batted .421 with six homers and 21 RBIs for Los Angeles.
Pollo
08-18-2008, 09:52 PM
meh, I'm iffy on this trade barring who we gave up, but you can always use some pitching in the postseason if we continue to play the way we have lately.
plus, Maddux would be a big help to Billingsley and Kershaw to give them some pointers.
nuclearjew
08-18-2008, 09:55 PM
Chicks dig the long ball.
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Chicks dig the long ball.
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Hey! We got Cy Young winners over here!
Lulz, classic.
BooBooBear
08-19-2008, 09:07 PM
God I'd love to throw one into Heather Locklear! :)
nuclearjew
08-19-2008, 09:12 PM
What, like a fastball or a curveball?
nuclearjew
08-19-2008, 09:45 PM
Russell Martin looks like Turtle.
BooBooBear
08-19-2008, 09:54 PM
What, like a fastball or a curveball?
HeHe! :D
minsolo25
08-20-2008, 02:20 AM
like the maddux aqcuisition, was nice the first time around, and the dodgers could use another arm since penny has gone down once again.
jimdog99
09-04-2008, 04:47 PM
like the maddux aqcuisition, was nice the first time around, and the dodgers could use another arm since penny has gone down once again.
Penny and Peavy are both soft. Gone are the days of guys running out there 8-9 innings per game giving the bully some rest. These guys don't need to throw their hardest every pitch. As I recall, Sandy Koufax threw everywhere until he took a little bit off and relaxed. The rest is history.
Penny and Peavy are both soft. Gone are the days of guys running out there 8-9 innings per game giving the bully some rest. These guys don't need to throw their hardest every pitch. As I recall, Sandy Koufax threw everywhere until he took a little bit off and relaxed. The rest is history.
Yeah, he had (essentially) a 5 or 6 year HoF career (years where he was really an everyday starter and pitching at a high level) and then retired due to injury. Intelligently managing pitches isn't about pitchers being whiny bitches, it's that relief pitchers are good enough now that it doesn't make any sense to tax a guy throwing those last 10-20 pitches (those few pitches that go over certain limits being the ones that carry serious injury risk) when those pitches could be thrown by a reliever with little to no loss in overall pitching skill.
Snatch
09-14-2008, 02:51 AM
I can't believe how the Giants are treating Lincecum. Baby Prior.
And Dusty's not even with the Giants
Snatch
09-14-2008, 03:05 AM
How many millions of dollars are they costing him? If I were him, I'd be asking out of games. Fuck that shit.
Before this start, he lead the league in Pitcher Abuse Points, and he just threw a category 5, making him the first all season.
Pollo
09-14-2008, 02:14 PM
I can't believe how the Giants are treating Lincecum. Baby Prior.
yeah, it's fucking nonsense ... especially yesterday since he had 118 pitch count going into the 9th inning in a shutout. Lincecum also went the distance in his prior start as well.
Penguin Rick
09-14-2008, 02:58 PM
The Brewers see nothing wrong with that treatment.
Pollo
09-14-2008, 03:00 PM
well, they know they're not resigning Sabathia, so why not abuse his arm to pieces?
Snatch
09-14-2008, 03:44 PM
well, they know they're not resigning Sabathia, so why not abuse his arm to pieces?
Exactly. As long as Sabathia makes it healthy to Free Agency, he's going to get paid. Guaranteed money, all that matters is making it to Free Agency. Lincecum might never get that far.
Da Raider
09-24-2008, 10:48 AM
Dodgers magic number is at 3.
Pollo
09-24-2008, 02:20 PM
hopefully we clinch the division on our last home game vs. Peavy -- I'd hate to go to SF with a remote possibility of knocking us out of the playoffs.
I'm pretty much a Cardinals fan hoping they do their share and beat the D'Backs.
Pollo
09-26-2008, 12:56 AM
holy shit: as part of a rookie stunt, Clayton Kershaw is wearing a motherfucking dress to celebrate winning the division.
he better not walk around SF with the way he looked. once I find pics, I'll be sure to post them.
Manny's gotta be behind that
Pollo
09-26-2008, 02:24 PM
apparently all the rookies had to dress up in costumes. Kuroda was a damn pimp and Blake DeWitt was Marilyn Monroe.
Le Goat
09-27-2008, 11:26 AM
LOS ANGELES - A man faces criminal charges for allegedly stealing a uniform from Dodger Stadium and posing as one of the team's players.
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Ronald Higgins pleaded not guilty to several charges Friday, including burglary and trespassing.
The 47-year-old Higgins was arrested Wednesday morning after a security guard found him walking on the field in a Dodgers uniform and holding a glove with two balls. Higgins allegedly identified himself as a Dodgers player, but the guard recognized him from an earlier incident and called police.
Prosecutors say Higgins' clothes were later found in the bat boys' locker room. It was not immediately clear where he got the uniform.
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If you're the Dodgers, you can't afford to not keep Manny
In accounting for revenue increases in ticket sales, parking, food, drink and merchandise, Manny Ramirez generated an estimated $7.6 million for the Los Angeles Dodgers.
The Dodgers' average attendance jumped by 4,288 after Ramirez was acquired.
The Dodgers also sold 14,000 Ramirez T-shirts at $29 each, 6,000 dreadlocks at $25 each and 500 authentic jerseys at $280 each. That's another $700,000 in revenue, strictly from stadium sales.
By the estimate of two sources within the organization, neither of which was authorized to discuss club finances publicly, the Dodgers could reap as much as $15 million from Ramirez this season.
I think that estimate may be based on work in Baseball Between the Numbers which gives a nice accurate breakdown of how much monetary value a player generates. It estimates that one additional win (under the 'WARP' system) is worth $1.2 million (not accounting for the extra value of making the playoffs). Manny's 5.3 WARP in LA puts him at $6.36 million, and accounting for (as the book does) the additional value of marginal wins in terms of making the playoffs probably makes up that extra $1.3 million (Dodgers needed those wins more to make the playoffs than the Angels did, so the wins he generated were worth more to the Dodgers than the Angels).
As for the final bit, though, even going by the more expensive Market-Price model they put out (which looks at what the market is willing to pay, not what it's worth) a win is worth roughly $1.75 million. Even in that more expensive model (which doesn't look at revenue generated but what the market is willing to pay) $15 million vastly overestimates what Manny provided.
Pollo
09-29-2008, 11:47 PM
If you're the Dodgers, you can't afford to not keep Manny
just make sure Frank McCourt gets the memo, because I think he's annoyed with recent FA signings Colletti has made. now if Manny wants 25+ million, then it's iffy, but if he's willing to take 20 million/year for 3-4 years, then by all means do it.
plus does Manny want to go back to a major market in the East like NY? I think he's having a ball being out in the LA area, where the media is no where near the hassle you would see in NY or Boston.
If someone pays Manny 20 mil a year for his ages 37, 38, 39 and possibly 40 seasons I don't ever want to hear that ARod is overpaid again.
Pollo
09-30-2008, 12:57 PM
dude, if Colletti gave Andruw Jones 18 million/year, Manny is definitely getting 20+ million from us -- it's almost like we're trying to top our outrageous contracts.
just make sure Frank McCourt gets the memo, because I think he's annoyed with recent FA signings Colletti has made. now if Manny wants 25+ million, then it's iffy, but if he's willing to take 20 million/year for 3-4 years, then by all means do it.
plus does Manny want to go back to a major market in the East like NY? I think he's having a ball being out in the LA area, where the media is no where near the hassle you would see in NY or Boston.
Manny said in an interview yesterday he loves LA because basically no one cares. He said he hated Boston because people there care way too much about wins and losses. He said he can now eat breakfast in peace.
Pollo
09-30-2008, 01:09 PM
don't get me wrong, the LA media here is no where near annoying as the NY/BOS markets. come Lakers season, though, then the media turns most of its attention to basketball.
from getting to know Manny this 1/3 of a season, he just wants to have fun and kick it with his teammates. hell, Torre enforced many rules prior to the season for what to do/not to do in the clubhouse, but when Manny arrived, all those rules were dropped and the team started the play much better. apparently Manny made the effort to get to know each and everyone of his new teammates, something I would of never thought he'd do in Boston.
having Kent out of the lineup for some time also played big, too -- he just isn't a guy you get along with no matter what.
And Kent's a FA who will probably retire or go be the DH in Texas
Le Goat
09-30-2008, 09:49 PM
GO DODGERS!
http://jj.am/gallery/d/61265-1/Dodgers_fan.jpg
Pollo
10-01-2008, 02:12 AM
ADD, that's nothing compared to the other shit Goat has posted on other threads.
Pollo
10-14-2008, 11:03 PM
I figure with the pending lawsuit facing the Padres' owner, he would consider dealing some contracts to shed some cap and Peavy could be the one:
The North County Times reports that the Padres have made Jake Peavy available in trades.
Peavy is just 10 months removed from signing a four-year, $52 million contract extension, but a 99-loss season can make a team do funny things. "This was a different year than last year," general manager Kevin Towers said. "You're arguably talking about moving one of the top pitchers in the game. But it's not a 100-percent given. Nothing is imminent." It'll be interesting to see what type of market there is for Peavy given that CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett and Ben Sheets are all free agents. Oct. 14 - 5:05 pm et
if it's true CC wants to come out West, the Yankees will be all over trying to get Peavy.
The Yankees already have made it clear they want 2 of the following 3: Sabathia, Lowe and Burnett. If Peavy actually becomes available, add his name to the list.
Pollo
10-15-2008, 12:01 AM
the last thing the Yankees would do is take another injury-risk pitcher after that mess with Pavano. Burnett will probably get a serious look from St. Louis, so I'm guessing the Yankees go after Lowe and Peavy hard if CC wants to go out West (unless no one out West seriously considers CC).
I think the Giants might be his only West Coast suitor and they won't shell out that kind of money. Especially with their other needs (1B/LH power bat)
Pollo
10-15-2008, 12:16 AM
I know his teams of preference are the Giants, Dodgers, Angels (in that order). the Giants being he grew up a SF fan, but after shelling out big money for Zito which has been a big mistake, they won't go after a SP -- they need infield players big time. the Dodgers and Angels only make sense if both clubs don't re-sign Manny and Tex, respectively. I don't see him going back to the AL since he's said he loves the hitting aspect of the NL.
If the Yankees break the bank he goes there. I wouldn't rule out the Phillies or Cubs either.
Penguin Rick
10-15-2008, 09:15 AM
the last thing the Yankees would do is take another injury-risk pitcher after that mess with Pavano.
Peavy isn't a high risk injury pitcher and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Pavano. Pavano wasn't even a good pitcher even where he was healthy. Peavy, when healthy, is arguably the best pitcher in the game. Yes, that might have something to do with pitching in Petco and playing in the NL West, but I honestly don't see a huge spike in his ERA since his strikeout rate is high.
And it's not like his career here has been injury prone. 2 of the last 3 years, he's been real healthy and a legitimate Cy Young candidate. This past year, he was hurt for a bit, but a lot more went wrong for the Padres.
Peavy isn't a high risk injury pitcher and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Pavano. Pavano wasn't even a good pitcher even where he was healthy. Peavy, when healthy, is arguably the best pitcher in the game. Yes, that might have something to do with pitching in Petco and playing in the NL West, but I honestly don't see a huge spike in his ERA since his strikeout rate is high.
And it's not like his career here has been injury prone. 2 of the last 3 years, he's been real healthy and a legitimate Cy Young candidate. This past year, he was hurt for a bit, but a lot more went wrong for the Padres.
He very clearly DIDN'T say Peavy was injury prone, he said Burnett was and so the Yankees would instead go after someone like Peavy.
Which would make me orgasm.
Penguin Rick
10-15-2008, 09:24 AM
Oh, my bad Pollo. I couldn't let someone talk smack about my boy Peavy though, my mistake.
Pollo
10-15-2008, 01:06 PM
Oh, my bad Pollo. I couldn't let someone talk smack about my boy Peavy though, my mistake.
no worries dude.
He very clearly DIDN'T say Peavy was injury prone, he said Burnett was and so the Yankees would instead go after someone like Peavy.
Which would make me orgasm.
I know I mentioned this possibility in the AL East thread a while ago, but people thought maybe it was silly ... but I knew the owner would need to cut payroll with his pending divorce and the likely candidates were Gonzalez or Peavy. if Peavy is dealt, whoever gets him is going to get a solid contract for his caliber after he signed a four-year, $52 million extension (13 million annually) about a year ago -- which in my mind is well worth it over CC if he's absolute that he wants to come West. the Yankees passed on Santana last year, and they cannot afford to make the same mistake this year.
ruffdog
10-15-2008, 01:10 PM
so someone explain how that Howard guy got a clean slate next inning 0-0 after the count on him was 2-2 and some dude got out stealing 2nd to end the inning
Pollo
10-15-2008, 01:12 PM
so someone explain how that Howard guy got a clean slate next inning 0-0 after the count on him was 2-2 and some dude got out stealing 2nd to end the inning
it's because his at-bat never technically finished. he didn't strike out nor did he flyout/ground out ... so he gets to go back to the plate in the next inning Philly bats (with a clean slate).
Banon
10-15-2008, 01:12 PM
dude, what a stupid question.
ruffdog
10-15-2008, 01:13 PM
I don't watch gaysball
Penguin Rick
10-15-2008, 01:13 PM
The main reason the Yankees didn't get Santana last year was they didn't want to part ways with Ian Kennedy or Philip Hughes. Now though, I'm not sure about Kennedy, he seems like a AAAA pitcher, dominant at the AAA level, but inconsistent at the major level. Hughes I think still has a lot of upside, and he did take a step back this year, but he's still only 22.
If the Yankees want to package Kennedy, Cabrera (who took a step back this year), and another good prospect, that might be enough to get Peavy.
I love Peavy, same age as Sabathia without the crazy abuse with unknown reprecussions Sabathia had this year and Peavy has more years of proven quality to boot. Contract isn't too bad, I suppose.
2009: $8 million club option (which I guess they're bound to since he's resigned for the years after this?)
2010: $15 million
2011: $16 million
2012: $17 million
2013: $22 million club option
That's nice as Sabathia will probably want those high end year costs (17+ million) throughout his theoretical contract AND likely for longer (probably 6 or 7 years, versus only 4 bound years for Peavy and only 3 of those above 10 million).
I still say Yankees pitching will probably be at least OK next year (given how they performed this year with NOTHING from Kennedy or Hughes AND Wang going down) but Moose and/or Pettitte won't last past next year likely so locking up someone good and young for 5ish years would be nice. Front 3 of Peavy/Wang/Joba would be quite nice, especially if they went in that order in a 3 game set. Power, sinkers, power would not be easy to adapt to, I imagine.
And now the Yankees say the regret not doing so (hence their offseason pitching wish list)
And now the Yankees say the regret not doing so (hence their offseason pitching wish list)
I still hold to my original belief that it was the right decision at the time. Of course in hindsight it's foolish, but that's easy to say. At this point though you can't really hope for much out of Kennedy, Melky hasn't developed (and they have more OF talent now), and Hughes is still just potential not actual proven value.
Pollo
10-15-2008, 01:31 PM
if that's the package (Hughes, Kennedy, Cabrera) SD is asking for, the Yankees have to do it. the word 'potential' is scary when it comes to prospects especially when you can get a proven commodity in Peavy for a respectable deal for a 27-year old pitcher who's hitting his prime.
CrazyCarl
10-15-2008, 01:49 PM
if Peavy is dealt, whoever gets him is going to get a solid contract for his caliber after he signed a four-year, $52 million extension (13 million annually) about a year ago
It's really 3/$52M with his 09 option picked up...$15M/$16M/$17M with a $22M option for 13
Penguin Rick
10-15-2008, 02:40 PM
if that's the package (Hughes, Kennedy, Cabrera) SD is asking for, the Yankees have to do it. the word 'potential' is scary when it comes to prospects especially when you can get a proven commodity in Peavy for a respectable deal for a 27-year old pitcher who's hitting his prime.
That is a hell of a lot to ask for. I don't think Cashman would give up Hughes just yet. Kennedy and Cabrera can go, but I think the Yankees would rather put in another good prospect (not Jackson) instead of Hughes.
Banon
10-15-2008, 02:51 PM
I totally agree with Pollo about his potential and proven comment. Fuck Hughes, get Peavy.
Pollo
10-15-2008, 07:02 PM
That is a hell of a lot to ask for. I don't think Cashman would give up Hughes just yet. Kennedy and Cabrera can go, but I think the Yankees would rather put in another good prospect (not Jackson) instead of Hughes.
well if you want one of the top pitchers in the game, you have to give up something and not be so picky about it. I'm sure the Brewers hated giving up LaPorta in the CC deal, but it was necessary for the sake of their season. the Yankees are not built to last to wait around for prospects -- they expect to get to the Fall Classic each year. I assure you SD will ask for one blue chip prospect in any deal, and I'm sure they'll be asking for Jackson or Hughes. the Padres need some outfield prospects to try to improve that horrible offense.
At this point I'd be willing to give up a Hughes or Jackson. OF is not nearly as difficult to replace, and another-year-older-and-no-better Hughes just doesn't look the same.
Pollo
10-17-2008, 01:59 AM
Yankees fans may be out of luck to land Peavy (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3647795).
the Dodgers a possibility for Peavy? for those lazy to read, since Peavy has a NTC in his contract, he's basically limited his choices to apparently Atlanta, Houston, Chicago, St. Louis, and LA and wants to stay in the NL.
since it's likely we're going to lose Lowe and need a marquee SP, Peavy would be an awesome addition although the Padres will ask the world for being in the same division. I say the favorites to possibly get him (outside the Dodgers) are the Braves and Cardinals. Houston has no damn prospects to give SD.
CrazyCarl
04-06-2009, 01:36 PM
Tim Lincecum will win 80 games
Tim Lincecum will win 80 games
And the Giants will be 80-82 overall.
Draven X 23
04-06-2009, 05:11 PM
Did Webb get his ass handed to him today? I don't want to look. I have him on a couple of my many fantasy teams.
BiōHazard
04-09-2009, 08:47 PM
Joe martinez just took a shot to his temple off a line drive and his legs just buckled. Bleeding bad.... Hope he's ok...
Update: Lincecum will win 79.
He already lost 1 today. The Giants and Padres are exact opposites of where they'd be in my eyes after 1 week.
Yes, your San Diego Padres lead the NL West at 5-2, and the go-go Giants are 2-5 *shoots self*
The Dude
04-14-2009, 12:20 PM
Joe martinez just took a shot to his temple off a line drive and his legs just buckled. Bleeding bad.... Hope he's ok...
Update: Lincecum will win 79.
I went to school with him. Not my best friend or anything, but certainly knew him, real nice kid.
Da Raider
04-14-2009, 12:31 PM
The Padres are on pace for 116 wins!