Large Hardon Collider Ready

[Le Goat]

GENEVA (Reuters) - Tests have cleared the way for the start-up next month of an experiment to restage a mini-version underground of the "Big Bang" which created the universe 15 billion years ago, the project chief said on Monday.
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Lyn Evans of the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN) said weekend trials in the vast underground LHC machine in which the particle-smashing experiment will take place over the coming months and years "went without a hitch."
"We look forward to a resounding success when we make our first attempt to send a beam all the way round the LHC," said Evans, who heads the multinational team of scientists that shaped the project and the machine, the Large Hadron Collider.
The final tests involved pumping a single bunch of energy particles from the project's accelerator into the 27-km (17-mile) beam pipe of the collider and steering them counter- clockwise around it for about 3 kms (2 miles).
Earlier in the month a clockwise trial in the LHC -- which runs deep under French and Swiss territory between the Jura mountains and Lake Geneva -- had been equally successful, CERN said.
The LHC team now plans to send a full particle beam all the way around the collider pipe in one direction on September 10 as a prelude to sending beams in both directions and smashing them together later in the year.
That collision, in which both particle clusters will be traveling at the speed of light, will be monitored on computers at CERN and laboratories around the world by scientists looking for, among other things, a particle that made life possible.
The elusive particle, which has been dubbed the "Higgs boson" after Scottish physicist Peter Higgs who first postulated nearly 50 years ago that it must exist, is thought to be the mysterious factor that holds matter together.
Recreating a "Big Bang," which most scientists believe is the only explanation of an expanding universe, ought to show how stars and planets came together out of the primeval chaos that followed, the CERN team believes.
Efforts to track it down in a predecessor to the LHC at CERN, and in another experiment in the United States, failed. But scientists are confident that the vast leap in technologies represented by the LHC will make the difference.
Higgs, a 79-year-old Edinburgh University professor who as an atheist angrily rejects the idea of calling the boson the "God particle" -- believes it will show up very quickly once the beams are colliding in the LHC.
"If it doesn't," he said during a visit to CERN earlier this year, "I shall be very, very puzzled."

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/chknfaqr/194f0199.jpg

[BIG PIZZLE]

We are all going to die.

[Le Goat]

I'm ready

[Will-Kill]

If it does make a Big Bang we wouldn't know since we would die within the first few milliseconds.

[Le Goat]

If it does make a Big Bang we wouldn't know since we would die within the first few milliseconds.

You fail to grasp the concept of a mini black hole.

[freegood]

You fail to grasp the concept of a mini black hole.

Like that'll save your bacon...

[Will-Kill]

Oh its that machine, my bad.

We get to die slowly if it gets out of control.

[Crack]

There should be a powerful nuclear device embedded in the heart of the LHC to interfere with the expansion of a possible black hole.

These fucking eggheads can't even get a simple rocket to function propperly, we're supposed to trust them to not fuck this up? To anyone who says NASA /= CERN....Math is fucking math, physics is FUCKING PHYSICS, 2 + 2 = 4?

Imagine that <(^_^)> Taru :p

[billy1980]

I dont know how getting several hundread tons of equipment out of our earths gravitational pull while exploding several tons of rocket fuel is simple. I dont know of anyone that could really call a rocket scientist an idiot.

[MDiver01]

this isnt going to end well

[blazerboy427]

Isn't there a possibility of this machine creating a huge black hole on Earth?

[MDiver01]

did you not read any of the thread or are you just a fucking retard?

[Kerjack]

Maybe, we would tell you for sure but given the choice to just do it or figure out the damn mountain of math involved...

[Kerjack]

Plus our favorite new show was on that night.

[Mustard]

Doomsayers and armageddonists have an astounding record of zero in approximately 800,000,000,000 at predicting the end of the world...

I'm not worried in the slightlest about them, or anyone else who think this will bring forth the end of the world.

[yard]

my concern is not the scientists and their equations....

my worry is about the low bid company that will build the thing.....

[Bill Paxton]

Doomsayers and armageddonists have an astounding record of zero in approximately 800,000,000,000 at predicting the end of the world...

So what you're saying is they are waaaaaay over due.

[feith]

this thing is going to change history.

[Hanover Fist]

this thing is going to change history.


Sweet, I hope they fuck up the Mexicans at the Alamo this time.

[Tar Heel]

The pictures of this thing are amazing.

Let me see if I can find them.

[Le Goat]

The pictures of this thing are amazing.

Let me see if I can find them.
(these work?)

http://www.gizmowatch.com/images/large-hadron-collider_58.jpg

http://atlas.kek.jp/public/overview/jura-letters-pv.jpg

http://atlas.kek.jp/public/overview/CERN-MonBlanc-pv.jpg

[footsies]

Duck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mustard]

goose?

[VoxAngelikus]

Here's a new article about the LHC. On one hand I am extremely interested in what kind of new things will be discovered as a result of the LHC. Surely some new shit will come to light. On the other hand, I wonder if this will open up a rip in the fabric of our universe and allow Lovecraftian monsters into our existence. Also I would be curious to die via black hole, as that must be quite an interesting experience.

CERN fires up new atom smasher to near Big Bang (http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080907/ap_on_re_eu/big_bang_machine)

By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS






GENEVA – It has been called an Alice in Wonderland investigation into the makeup of the universe — or dangerous tampering with nature that could spell doomsday.


Whatever the case, the most powerful atom-smasher ever built comes online Wednesday, eagerly anticipated by scientists worldwide who have awaited this moment for two decades.


The multibillion-dollar Large Hadron Collider will explore the tiniest particles and come ever closer to re-enacting the big bang, the theory that a colossal explosion created the universe.


The machine at CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, promises scientists a closer look at the makeup of matter, filling in gaps in knowledge or possibly reshaping theories.


The first beams of protons will be fired around the 17-mile tunnel to test the controlling strength of the world's largest superconducting magnets. It will still be about a month before beams traveling in opposite directions are brought together in collisions that some skeptics fear could create micro "black holes" and endanger the planet.


The project has attracted researchers of 80 nationalities, some 1,200 of them from the United States, which contributed $531 million of the project's price tag of nearly $4 billion.


"This only happens once a generation," said Katie Yurkewicz, spokeswoman for the U.S. contingent at the CERN project. "People are certainly very excited."


The collider at Fermilab outside Chicago could beat CERN to some discoveries, but the Geneva equipment, generating seven times more energy than Fermilab, will give it big advantages.


The CERN collider is designed to push the proton beam close to the speed of light, whizzing 11,000 times a second around the tunnel 150 to 500 feet under the bucolic countryside on the French-Swiss border.


Once the beam is successfully fired counterclockwise, a clockwise test will follow. Then the scientists will aim the beams at each other so that protons collide, shattering into fragments and releasing energy under the gaze of detectors filling cathedral-sized caverns at points along the tunnel.
CERN dismisses the risk of micro black holes, subatomic versions of collapsed stars whose gravity is so strong they can suck in planets and other stars.


But the skeptics have filed suit in U.S. District Court in Hawaii and in the European Court of Human Rights to stop the project. They unsuccessfully mounted a similar action in 1999 to block the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider at the Brookhaven National Laboratory in New York state.


CERN's collider has been under construction since 2003, financed mostly by its 20 European member states. The United States and Japan are major contributors with observer status in CERN.


Scientists started colliding subatomic particles decades ago. As the machines grew more powerful, the experiments revealed that protons and neutrons — previously thought to be the smallest components of an atom — were made of still smaller quarks and gluons.


CERN hopes to recreate conditions in the laboratory a split-second after the big bang, teaching them more about "dark matter," antimatter and possibly hidden dimensions of space and time.


Meanwhile, scientists have found innovative ways to explain the concept in

layman's terms.


The team working on one of the four major installations in the tunnel — the ALICE, or "A Large Ion Collider Experiment" — produced a comic book featuring Carlo the physicist and a girl called Alice to explain the machine's investigation of matter a split second after the Big Bang.


"We create mini Big Bangs by bumping two nuclei into each other," Carlo explains to Alice, who has just followed a rabbit down one of the hole-like shafts at CERN.


"This releases an enormous amount of energy that liberates thousands of quarks and gluons normally imprisoned inside the nucleus. Quarks and gluons then form a kind of thick soup that we call the quark-gluon plasma."
The soup cools quickly and the quarks and gluons stick together to form protons and neutrons, the building blocks of matter.


That will enable scientists to look for still missing pieces to the puzzle — or lead to the formulation of a new theory on the makeup of matter.
Kate McAlpine, 23, a Michigan State University graduate at CERN, has produced the Large Hadron Rap, a video clip that has attracted more than a million views on YouTube (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_re_eu/storytext/big_bang_machine/28998361/SIG=10psi9dkb;_ylt=ApqyTqCtpFYvXEX2d8RiqIRbbBAF/*http://www.youtube.com/).


"The things that it discovers will rock you in the head," McAlpine raps as she dances in the tunnel and caverns. CERN spokesman James Gillies said the lyrics are "absolutely scientifically spot on."



"It's quite brilliant," Gillies said.

[Morfin]

Also I would be curious to die via black hole, as that must be quite an interesting experience.

Considering that the amount of time it would take for the world to compact into the center of a black hole would be less than millionths of a second, that "interesting experience" will be over and your brain squashed before you had time to realize it had happened. Kind of like turning off the TV. Blip. Squish. Gone.

[VoxAngelikus]

Considering that the amount of time it would take for the world to compact into the center of a black hole would be less than millionths of a second, that "interesting experience" will be over and your brain squashed before you had time to realize it had happened. Kind of like turning off the TV. Blip. Squish. Gone.

Thanks, Mr. Buzzkill

[Morfin]

That's Captain Buzzkill to you.

[InterningIsiah]

Nice knowing you all. But seriously, I'm excited to seeing what they can find using this.

[Le Goat]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/chknfaqr/818c20e3.jpg

[Pike Bishop]

$4 billion to find the Higgs boson? I bet someone is going to feel like a real asshole when he finds it and realizes it's been in his couch cushions the whole time.

[InterningIsiah]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/chknfaqr/818c20e3.jpg

That's all the evidence we need we're screwed.

Anybody else see the G-man in the background?

[thestronz]

That's all the evidence we need we're screwed.

Anybody else see the G-man in the background?

And to think I had just convinced myself that nothing was going to happen, but then Gordon Freeman has to show up. I am officially buying a crowbar tomorrow morning.

[teamusa]

GENEVA – It has been called an Alice in Wonderland investigation into the makeup of the universe — or dangerous tampering with nature that could spell doomsday.
Whatever the case, the most powerful atom-smasher ever built comes online Wednesday, eagerly anticipated by scientists worldwide who have awaited this moment for two decades.
The multibillion-dollar Large Hadron Collider will explore the tiniest particles and come ever closer to re-enacting the big bang, the theory that a colossal explosion created the universe.
The machine at CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, promises scientists a closer look at the makeup of matter, filling in gaps in knowledge or possibly reshaping theories.
The first beams of protons will be fired around the 17-mile tunnel to test the controlling strength of the world's largest superconducting magnets. It will still be about a month before beams traveling in opposite directions are brought together in collisions that some skeptics fear could create micro "black holes" and endanger the planet.
The project has attracted researchers of 80 nationalities, some 1,200 of them from the United States, which contributed $531 million of the project's price tag of nearly $4 billion.
"This only happens once a generation," said Katie Yurkewicz, spokeswoman for the U.S. contingent at the CERN project. "People are certainly very excited."
The collider at Fermilab outside Chicago could beat CERN to some discoveries, but the Geneva equipment, generating seven times more energy than Fermilab, will give it big advantages.
The CERN collider is designed to push the proton beam close to the speed of light, whizzing 11,000 times a second around the tunnel 150 to 500 feet under the bucolic countryside on the French-Swiss border.
Once the beam is successfully fired counterclockwise, a clockwise test will follow. Then the scientists will aim the beams at each other so that protons collide, shattering into fragments and releasing energy under the gaze of detectors filling cathedral-sized caverns at points along the tunnel.
CERN dismisses the risk of micro black holes, subatomic versions of collapsed stars whose gravity is so strong they can suck in planets and other stars.
But the skeptics have filed suit in U.S. District Court in Hawaii and in the European Court of Human Rights to stop the project. They unsuccessfully mounted a similar action in 1999 to block the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider at the Brookhaven National Laboratory in New York state.
CERN's collider has been under construction since 2003, financed mostly by its 20 European member states. The United States and Japan are major contributors with observer status in CERN.
Scientists started colliding subatomic particles decades ago. As the machines grew more powerful, the experiments revealed that protons and neutrons — previously thought to be the smallest components of an atom — were made of still smaller quarks and gluons.
CERN hopes to recreate conditions in the laboratory a split-second after the big bang, teaching them more about "dark matter," antimatter and possibly hidden dimensions of space and time.
Meanwhile, scientists have found innovative ways to explain the concept in layman's terms.
The team working on one of the four major installations in the tunnel — the ALICE, or "A Large Ion Collider Experiment" — produced a comic book featuring Carlo the physicist and a girl called Alice to explain the machine's investigation of matter a split second after the Big Bang.

"We create mini Big Bangs by bumping two nuclei into each other," Carlo explains to Alice, who has just followed a rabbit down one of the hole-like shafts at CERN.
"This releases an enormous amount of energy that liberates thousands of quarks and gluons normally imprisoned inside the nucleus. Quarks and gluons then form a kind of thick soup that we call the quark-gluon plasma."
The soup cools quickly and the quarks and gluons stick together to form protons and neutrons, the building blocks of matter.
That will enable scientists to look for still missing pieces to the puzzle — or lead to the formulation of a new theory on the makeup of matter.
Kate McAlpine, 23, a Michigan State University graduate at CERN, has produced the Large Hadron Rap, a video clip that has attracted more than a million views on YouTube (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_re_eu/storytext/big_bang_machine/28998361/SIG=10psi9dkb;_ylt=ApgIWxOtYaVvtUl1DKIF35JbbBAF/*http://www.youtube.com/).
"The things that it discovers will rock you in the head," McAlpine raps as she dances in the tunnel and caverns.
CERN spokesman James Gillies said the lyrics are "absolutely scientifically spot on." "It's quite brilliant," Gillies said.


http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080907/ap_on_re_eu/big_bang_machine

[AJ]

We're all gonna die.

[teamusa]

lol it all ends tomorrow.

[Claydon]

A thread for this already exists.

[AJ]

Whiny, faggish, wine drinking douche bags already exist too, but they still let you live.

[Claydon]

Whiny, faggish, wine drinking douche bags already exist too, but they still let you live.


Hmmmmm... guess you got turned down at the mountain redneck bar again? Did you piss on his boots again?

[AJ]

No, but I did piss in the parking garage at Denver International Airport yesterday.

[Claydon]

No, but I did piss in the parking garage at Denver International Airport yesterday.

oh so you didn't make any money working the restrooms again? All the senators and congressmen already left town?

[}{arlequin]

A thread for this already exists.
i thought it was on the old forum

[Claydon]

i thought it was on the old forum

http://forum.gorillamask.net/showthread.php?t=5173

[AJ]

oh so you didn't make any money working the restrooms again? All the senators and congressmen already left town?

You really just need to give up on the whole comedy thing. You're are absolutely HORRIBLE at it.

[Claydon]

You really just need to give up on the whole comedy thing. You're are absolutely HORRIBLE at it.

i deal in facts, not comedy.

the real fact is, you are a peen licking faggot.

[Spanky]

Two things:

1) This is not the apocalypse.
2) Some seriously wacky shit will probably be discovered because of this thing. Like, life altering wacky shit. I'm excited for it.

[AJ]

Getting called a faggot by a proclaimed "male" that thinks this car looks "pretty slick" doesn't really seem to bother me too much.

http://images.businessweek.com/story/08/600/0904_mz_ecocar.jpg


I bet your bedroom is pink too, isn't it.

[Spanky]

You're both very unfunny humans. Go discuss that point in a relevant thread.

[Claydon]

Getting called a faggot by a proclaimed "male" that thinks this car looks "pretty slick" doesn't really seem to bother me too much.

http://images.businessweek.com/story/08/600/0904_mz_ecocar.jpg


I bet your bedroom is pink too, isn't it.


ooooooooooo nice one there aj, I like the design of a vehicle that is fuel efficient, and perfect for my needs ie commuting and urban driving.

wow...you showed me.

look if we all wanted a real laugh you could just show us your dildo collection.

[Tar Heel]

A thread for this already exists.


To be fair. it has an awful/misleading thread title that also misspells the name of the machine, so you can't really blame anyone for missing it.

[Claydon]

To be fair. it has an awful/misleading thread title that also misspells the name of the machine, so you can't really blame anyone for missing it.


I agree, hence I didn't do the standard "search is your friend" bit.

[AJ]

haha, I don't even have to argue with you. You make my points for me. I'm done with you now, gay boy.

[Tar Heel]

i deal in facts, not comedy.

the real fact is, you are a peen licking faggot.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/tarheel2k5/claysome.jpg

[Claydon]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/tarheel2k5/claysome.jpg

classic lulz!

[Claydon]

although this thing is going online, we probably won't see any data from it for months.

[Spanky]

They've probably already turned on the damn thing.

[Claydon]

They've probably already turned on the damn thing.


Yah, they plugged it into one of those funky european outlets.

[Ocelot]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/chknfaqr/818c20e3.jpg

When I heard of this I thought of Half-Life also, haha. Good stuff, can't wait to see what comes out of the experiments.

[Kerjack]

Its is why I'm glad I built that trans dimensional warp gate. I'll be taking a vacation for a bit just in case.

[Claydon]

Wasn't the US on track to start building one of these back in the 90s, but the Clinton administration pussed out in order to fund gay midnight basketball or some such shit?

[BSM]

http://www.gizmowatch.com/images/large-hadron-collider_58.jpg

Isn't that the set from Stargate SG-1?


So they're looking for something called the Higgs Boson. My question is if they've never seen the Higgs Boson - how do they know it exists?

Religion - 1
Science - 0

[Kerjack]

Wasn't the US on track to start building one of these back in the 90s, but the Clinton administration pussed out in order to fund gay midnight basketball or some such shit?

I dunno, but I could have sworn someone had already built one of these years ago and nothing came from it, no end of the world and no sign of free quarks of whatever the heck they where looking for at the time.

[thestronz]

http://www.gizmowatch.com/images/large-hadron-collider_58.jpg

Isn't that the set from Stargate SG-1?


So they're looking for something called the Higgs Boson. My question is if they've never seen the Higgs Boson - how do they know it exists?

Religion - 1
Science - 0

if you build it, they will come

[BSM]

God > Higgs Boson

I think Flight of the Conchords put it best -

rpKqMC2YfwI

[Kerjack]

Sometimes I look at those pictures and I wonder how much of that shit they didn't need but built anyway to make it look cooler or because they had extra funding.

[thestronz]

God > Higgs Boson

God = Higgs Boson

http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys314/lectures/reste/god_cover.gif

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/god-particle/achenbach-text

[Kerjack]

The God particle is probably what we are overlooking that unifies physics. Everybody wins!

[BSM]

Didn't I see that guy on "To Catch A Preditor"?

[Poop Sailboat]

at first glance i thought the bottom right hand corner of the book said "Dick Trees"

[kid_vidrio]

Yeah, they built one.
A lot came from it. Discovery of dark matter and stuff.
But they needed to go to 11 so here we are.

[BSM]

Not sure if it's been said already, but Large Hardon Collider would be a great name for a porno.

[Pharon]

Wasn't the US on track to start building one of these back in the 90s, but the Clinton administration pussed out in order to fund gay midnight basketball or some such shit?
Didn't you field a team for that?

Ingrate.

[VoxAngelikus]

Good stuff, can't wait to see what comes out of the experiments.


Shoggoths? Elder Things? Dagon? Chtulhu?

[Le Goat]

If its what I'm thinkin it is, the one the clintons did away with was being built about 8 miles south of me.


Also, yes thet built one of these a few years back in New york I believe... Shit, maybe around Chicago. I'm not at home to check. That's the one that found quarks

In all honesty, if they find nothing, its just as good if not better.

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

Waxahacie Superconductor Super collider?

[VoxAngelikus]

Fermilab built one in Chicago.
Brookhaven is the one in NY

[Hanover Fist]

Yeah, they built one.
A lot came from it. Discovery of dark matter and stuff.
But they needed to go to 11 so here we are.

It was the Superconducting Super Collider in Texas
Unfortunately it didn't get built. At least not all of it, after spending $2 billion and digging 14 miles of tunnels congress cancelled it in 1993.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider

[FlipHKD]

The only thing I can use to explain how I feel about the Collider.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b6/Readytodieoriginalalbumcover.jpg

[Face]

I hope this thing destroys the world

[Fuh Q]

I really hope it creates/does something which means the earth is gonna fail in like 3 days or something and we all die. Wouldnt it be cool to watch what it does to people? I'm not tryin to be edgy or cryptic here, I just think it'd be interesting to see what people choose to fill their 3 days with. And hey, my life is pretty much worthless, I dont mind dying in 3 days

[Le Goat]

Waxahacie Superconductor Super collider?

It was the Superconducting Super Collider in Texas
Unfortunately it didn't get built. At least not all of it, after spending $2 billion and digging 14 miles of tunnels congress cancelled it in 1993.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider

Indeed. That would be it.

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

Indeed. That would be it.

I remember driving through there and looking at all the nice homes the government bought out just sitting there boarded up.

[Le Goat]

I remember driving through there and looking at all the nice homes the government bought out just sitting there boarded up.

I haven't been to Waxahachie in years. It's the opposite way from civilization but back in the day, yeah I remember seeing a lot of that shit. Now the town is know for Scarborough Fair

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

I still laugh anytime I think of the Waxahacie court house.

[Le Goat]

I still laugh anytime I think of the Waxahacie court house.

I tend to hear the Soviet Anthem when I look at it. Looks a bit like the Kremlin to me (four dome-ish pillars around a central tower)

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

I laugh because of the dude scupting his jilted lovers naughty bits all into the building.

[Pharon]

I wouldn't care that much if this big bang thing created a black hole and sucked up the earth in less than a millisecond.

I had a pretty horrible summer. And fall doesn't look too promising, either. It would be a nice relief.

[VoxAngelikus]

Shit... if we're all going to be sucked up in a millisecond, I don't know that that would give you much time to comprehend what was happening.

[Pharon]

Even better. I'm not a big fan of pain.

[Blackface_RDJ]

so tomorrow is the day this bad boy gets started up?

when does it reach fully power?

[Le Goat]

so tomorrow is the day this bad boy gets started up?

when does it reach fully power?

It's just a full scale test in one direction... a few days/weeks later the other direction and a month from now the full test starts

[Poop Sailboat]

get your raping while it's hot!

[Face]

I really hope it creates/does something which means the earth is gonna fail in like 3 days or something and we all die. Wouldnt it be cool to watch what it does to people? I'm not tryin to be edgy or cryptic here, I just think it'd be interesting to see what people choose to fill their 3 days with. And hey, my life is pretty much worthless, I dont mind dying in 3 days
glorious

[Mustard]

Is it possible that the Earth will become the whore of open spaces?

[Kerjack]

The worst downside is I REALLY don't want to become 'one' with all you assholes.

[Mustard]

For the first time there is a very miniscule yet remote and possible chance that TiM will be inside of everybody's asshole...

Except me. I'm not gay.

[TylerDurden]

CERN, Switzerland (CNN) -- Scientists Wednesday applauded as one of the most ambitious experiments ever conceived got successfully underway, with protons being fired around a 27-kilometer (17-mile) tunnel deep beneath the border of France and Switzerland in an attempt to unlock the secrets of the universe.

The Large Hadron Collider -- a $9 billion particle accelerator designed to simulate conditions of the Big Bang that created the physical Universe -- was switched on at 0732 GMT to cheers and applause from experts gathered to witness the event.

While observers were left nonplussed by the anticlimactic flashing dots on a TV screen that signalled the machine's successful test run, among teams of scientists involved around the world there were jubilant celebrations and popping champagne corks.

In the coming months, the collider is expected to begin smashing particles into each other by sending two beams of protons around the tunnel in opposite directions.

Skeptics, who claim that the experiment could lead to the creation of a black hole capable of swallowing the planet, failed in a legal bid to halt the project at CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.

Others have branded it a colossal waste of cash, draining resources from its multinational collaborators that could have been spent on scientific research with more tangible benefits to mankind.

SOURCE (http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/09/10/lhc.collider/index.html)

seems pretty exciting. the day this thing becomes fully usable could be one of those "where were you the day..." kind of days. i mean, really, you don't spend $9B to NOT have one of those days.

[Le Goat]

CERN, Switzerland (CNN) -- Scientists Wednesday applauded as one of the most ambitious experiments ever conceived got successfully underway, with protons being fired around a 27-kilometer (17-mile) tunnel deep beneath the border of France and Switzerland in an attempt to unlock the secrets of the universe.

The Large Hadron Collider -- a $9 billion particle accelerator designed to simulate conditions of the Big Bang that created the physical Universe -- was switched on at 0732 GMT to cheers and applause from experts gathered to witness the event.

While observers were left nonplussed by the anticlimactic flashing dots on a TV screen that signalled the machine's successful test run, among teams of scientists involved around the world there were jubilant celebrations and popping champagne corks.

In the coming months, the collider is expected to begin smashing particles into each other by sending two beams of protons around the tunnel in opposite directions.

Skeptics, who claim that the experiment could lead to the creation of a black hole capable of swallowing the planet, failed in a legal bid to halt the project at CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.

Others have branded it a colossal waste of cash, draining resources from its multinational collaborators that could have been spent on scientific research with more tangible benefits to mankind.

SOURCE (http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/09/10/lhc.collider/index.html)

seems pretty exciting. the day this thing becomes fully usable could be one of those "where were you the day..." kind of days. i mean, really, you don't spend $9B to NOT have one of those days.

I don't think it will be one of those days, per se... I think that day will be the day they announce whether they found other particles. Hell for me, its even if they found nothing. 'cause nothing is still always something in the world of the subatomic

[lusonico]

This is somewhat madness, what these fuckers are doing... Big boyz with big toyz...

[Kerjack]

While is think it is cool and what we might learn from it is extremely valuable I also agree the 9billion might have been better spent at this time.

PS. looks like Google thinks we are doomed as well.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n299/Vaun_Kerjack/lhc.gif
http://www.google.com/search?q=Large+Hadron+Collider&hl=en

[JohnQRotten]

While is think it is cool and what we might learn from it is extremely valuable I also agree the 9billion might have been better spent at this time.

PS. looks like Google thinks we are doomed as well.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n299/Vaun_Kerjack/lhc.gif
http://www.google.com/search?q=Large+Hadron+Collider&hl=en

It does seem like quite a bit to spend on something that really only has theoretical applications.

[Le Goat]

It does seem like quite a bit to spend on something that really only has theoretical applications.

If people actually thought like you shit wouldn't get done in this world. Hell, we'd be just like Africa or the Middle East.

[Le Goat]

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/search?f=keyword&p=LHC&ln=en

[}{arlequin]

The worst downside is I REALLY don't want to become 'one' with all you assholes.
screw that. there are women here that i wouldn't mind becoming 'one' with... why you focusing on men?

[Kerjack]

Well that was my first thought, but then I realized that it isn't worth it since you all out number them by 1000 to 1.

[Kerjack]

If people actually thought like you shit wouldn't get done in this world. Hell, we'd be just like Africa or the Middle East.

I'm all for doing this stuff, but if you are handing out a limited amount of money to scientific endeavors there might have been better ones to fund at this time

Although I'm for a largely expanded budget in all scientific fields. It just seems silly to me that we are letting this made up concept of money stand in our way of faster progress. You'd think there would be a better way.

[Le Goat]

I'm all for doing this stuff, but if you are handing out a limited amount of money to scientific endeavors there might have been better ones to fund at this time

Although I'm for a largely expanded budget in all scientific fields. It just seems silly to me that we are letting this made up concept of money stand in our way of faster progress. You'd think there would be a better way.


So who are you blaming for spending the unbelievably varying amounts of money on a theoretical experiment that can potentially help us understand a whole new existence?

[Kerjack]

So who are you blaming for spending the unbelievably varying amounts of money on a theoretical experiment that can potentially help us understand a whole new existence?

Those one dudes.

[VoxAngelikus]

http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/

[BSM]

Are they also planning on finding the Flux Capacitor?

[Penguin Rick]

All I'm going to say is these guys better know what they are doing.

Well, it'll either work or it'll destroy the Earth in a few milliseconds, so at least there is no pain.

[Face]

apparently some scientists believe that there's a possibility that a small black hole my form at the centre of the earth, in which case our annihilation may not be instantaneous, but a relatively slow process as the black hole tears the earth apart from the inside

so that's pretty cool

[MagnumPI]

couldn't one black whole eat another black hole and keep getting bigger?

[Le Goat]

couldn't one black whole eat another black hole and keep getting bigger?

There is a theoretical limit to the size of a black hole, both large and small, but depending on the size of the two initial black holes they have the potential to become large Supermassive Black Hole (whats in the center of a lot of Galaxies)

[MDiver01]

I just dont see the point of this. How is creating a black hole suppose to show how the big bang work or am I misunderstanding what its suppose to do?

[Face]

am I misunderstanding what its suppose to do?
yes

[Le Goat]

I just dont see the point of this. How is creating a black hole suppose to show how the big bang work or am I misunderstanding what its suppose to do?

you are completely misunderstanding the multiple experiments


The point is to slam Proton's together and find out what's inside of them... be it the GOD Particle or whatever else is there. It's a look back to the big bang and even the possibility of more dimensions.

[MDiver01]

So say this works and then what?

[Face]

the world doesn't end

[Oggie]

So say this works and then what?
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Oggie1226/94483_f260.jpg

[Face]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Oggie1226/94483_f260.jpg
its about fucking time!

[Blue]

http://www.b3tards.com/u/899d78c16b9bb1676226/lhc_frog.gif

[Oggie]

According to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1vKisefsuI) it won't be an instantaneous death.
Looking forward to the show!

[MDiver01]

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html


live web cam and no its not a porno site

[VoxAngelikus]

f6aU-wFSqt0

[Pharon]

According to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1vKisefsuI) it won't be an instantaneous death.
Looking forward to the show!
The luckiest ones were the protestors right outside the facility who got vaporized immediately. That's where I'd want to be.

[Pete t]

i heard that it might cause microscopic black holes, but they would be so small that they would evaporate due to hawking radiation almost instantly, being harmless

[InterningIsiah]

I just dont see the point of this. How is creating a black hole suppose to show how the big bang work or am I misunderstanding what its suppose to do?

I thought the big deal of this thing was that this would bring along some big advancement in the study of dark matter.

[Ghostrider]

This has got to be just the start of advertisements for "Angels and Demons" due out on film early 2009.

[VoxAngelikus]

It's happening!!! LHC is going to kill us all!

Well, some of us.

LHC claims its first victim (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24328351-401,00.html)

[Mustard]

It's happening!!! LHC is going to kill us all!

Well, some of us.

LHC claims its first victim (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24328351-401,00.html)
Way to pussy out there cochise...

Darwin Award Winner?

[satandole666]

Let's just end all this build up and controversy and fire this thing off already. I'm bored with the doomsayers and somewhat interested in the findings.

[Mustard]

Nothing is going to happen.

The great thing about that statement is that I'm right no matter the outcome. If nothing happens, I'm right. If a black hole is created and we all die, then who can refute me?

[Penguin Rick]

Oh Jesus, that makes us Indians appear like giant pussies.

[freegood]

Greek sons of bitches will kill us all

Hackers attack Large Hadron Collider (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/12/scicern212.xml)

By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Last Updated: 2:01pm BST 12/09/2008

Hackers have mounted an attack on the Large Hadron Collider, raising concerns about the security of the biggest experiment in the world as it passes an important new milestone.
The scientists behind the £4.4bn atom smasher had already received threatening emails and been besieged by telephone calls from worried members of the public concerned by speculation that the machine could trigger a black hole to swallow the earth, or earthquakes and tsunamis, despite endless reassurances to the contrary from the likes of Prof Stephen Hawking.

eee
The message in Greek that the hackers displayed. Click to enlarge

Now it has emerged that, as the first particles were circulating in the machine near Geneva, a Greek group had hacked into the facility and displayed a page with the headline "GST: Greek Security Team."

The people responsible signed off: "We are 2600 - dont mess with us. (sic)"

The website - cmsmon.cern.ch - can no longer be accessed by the public as a result of the attack.

Scientists working at Cern, the organisation that runs the vast smasher, were worried about what the hackers could do because they were "one step away" from the computer control system of one of the huge detectors of the machine, a vast magnet that weighs 12,500 tons, measuring around 21 metres in length and 15 metres wide/high.

If they had hacked into a second computer network, they could have turned off parts of the vast detector and, said the insider, "it is hard enough to make these things work if no one is messing with it."

Fortunately, only one file was damaged but one of the scientists firing off emails as the CMS team fought off the hackers said it was a "scary experience".

The hackers targeted the Compact Muon Solenoid Experiment, or CMS, one of the four "eyes" of the facility that will be analysing the fallout of the Big Bang.

The CMS team of around 2,000 scientists is racing with another team that runs the Atlas detector, also at Cern, to find the Higgs particle, one that is responsible for mass.
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"There seems to be no harm done. From what they can tell, it was someone making the point that CMS was hackable," said James Gillies, spokesman for Cern. "It was quickly detected."

"We have several levels of network, a general access network and a much tighter network for sensitive things that operate the LHC," said Gillies.

"We are a very visible site," he said, adding that of the 1.4 million emails sent to Cern yesterday, 98 per cent was spam.

The hacking attempt started around the time that the giant machine was about to circulate its first particles, under the spotlight of the world's media.

On Wednesday afternoon, as the world held its breath as the machine sparked up, CMS team members were scouring computers at the machine for half a dozen files uploaded by the hackers on September 9 and 10.

"We think that someone from Fermilab's Tevatron (the competing atom smasher in America) had their access details compromised," said one of the scientists working on the machine. "What happened wasn't a big deal, just goes to show people are out there always on the prowl."

The CMS team studied the files inserted by the hackers carefully before deleting, in case a "backdoor" had been installed, a means of access to the computer that bypasses security.

The system the hackers managed to access was CMSMON, which monitors the CMS software system as the vast detector takes data, during collisions between particles to study the energies and physics in the immediate aftermath of the Big Bang, which created the universe.

Cern relies on a 'defence-in-depth' strategy, separating control networks and using firewalls and complex passwords, to protect its control systems from malicious software, such as denial-of-service attacks, botnets and zombie machines, which can strike with a synchronised attack from hundreds of machines around the world.

However, there have been growing concerns about security as remote or wireless access, notebooks and USB sticks offer new possibilities for a virus or worms to enter the network, not to mention hackers and terrorists who might be interested in targeting computers to shutdown the system.

More than 110 different control systems are used at Cern. These systems monitor, supervise and safeguard Cern's accelerators, experiments and infrastructure - from buildings, electricity and heating to access control, radiation protection and safety.

To refine security methods Cern set up a working group called Computing and Network Infrastructure for Controls. One document written by the group said: "Recent events show that computer security issues are becoming a serious problem also at Cern."

However, the team said yesterday that it did not want to comment on security at the international facility.

A few years ago, Stanford University in California announced that a number of high-performance academic computer centres had been attacked by hackers lured by the phenomenal power of the grid - pools of computing power linked by dedicated high-speed networks. Beyond shutting down the machines or stealing or deleting data, one likely malicious use of such power is to crack passwords.

In 2003, hackers broke into ScotGrid, a network of 150 machines based at the University of Glasgow. They intercepted the password of a remote user based in Geneva and used it to gain access to ScotGrid. They ran scripts that tried to reconfigure the machine to steal more passwords.

The commissioning of the giant machine is making extraordinary progress.

Now that the team has managed to get beams of particles circulating stably, they must be "captured" so that the particles stay in bunches.

This has now been done with the anticlockwise beam, circulating a beam for full half an hour. Commissioning, said Gillies, "is going incredibly fast." They now hope to capture the second clockwise beam. "To give you a feel for how well these guys are doing, what happened on Wednesday was days one to four of main commissioning."

This latest step "is really a more significant achievement than Wednesday's fun and games," comments Dr David Sankey of the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Oxfordshire.

[STDSkillz]

The world's largest particle collider malfunctioned within hours of its launch to great fanfare, but its operator didn't report the problem for a week.

In a statement Thursday, the European Organization for Nuclear Research reported for the first time that a 30-ton transformer that cools part of the collider broke, forcing physicists to stop using the atom smasher just a day after starting it up last week.

The faulty transformer has been replaced and the ring in the 17-mile circular tunnel under the Swiss-French border has been cooled back down to near zero on the Kelvin scale — minus 459.67 degrees Fahrenheit — the most efficient operating temperature, said a statement by CERN, as the organization is known.

When the transformer malfunctioned, operating temperatures rose from below 2 Kelvin to 4.5 Kelvin — extraordinarily cold by most standards, but warmer than the normal operating temperature.

Sauce (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_re_eu/eu_big_bang)

[Face]

so that's why the world is still here, I was beginning to wonder

[Cornelius]

LOL I love that they already broke it!
I bet it broke on the French side, because I mean seriously: ITS FRENCH.

I am with Sink though.

Nothing is going to happen.

[Cornelius]

Oh btw. Did anyone catch this shit?

Teen commits suicide after 'end of world' reports

From correspondents in Bhopal
September 11, 2008 02:14am


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A TEENAGE girl in central India killed herself on Wednesday after being traumatised by media reports that a "Big Bang" experiment in Europe could bring about the end of the world, her father said.

The 16-year old girl from the state of Madhya Pradesh drank pesticide and was rushed to the hospital but later died, police said.

Her father, identified on local television as Biharilal, said that his daughter, Chayya, killed herself after watching doomsday predictions made on Indian news programmes.

"In the past two days, Chayya had asked me and other relatives about the world coming to an end on Sept. 10," Biharilal was quoted as saying.

"We tried to divert her attention and told her she should not worry about such things, but to no avail."

For the past two days, many Indian news channels held discussions airing doomsday predictions over a huge particle-smashing machine buried under the Swiss-French border.

The machine, called the Large Hadron Collider, was switched on on Wednesday, at the start of what experts say is the largest scientific experiment in human history.

The machine smashes particles together to achieve, on a small-scale, re-enactments of the "Big Bang" that created the universe.

[VoxAngelikus]

Yeah, about 6 days ago:

It's happening!!! LHC is going to kill us all!

Well, some of us.

LHC claims its first victim (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24328351-401,00.html)

[Le Goat]

One down, 1 billion left

[Le Goat]

We're Proper Fucked; It's going to crack open and expand a previously unobservable dimension, grab your crow-bars folks!

http://www.shacknews.com/images/image-o-matic.x?/images/sshots/Screenshot/10698/10698_48c7161254f4d.jpg http://www.shacknews.com/images/generated/48c72746cacd0_featured_without_text_4835b3a82848d_ featured_without_text_Gordon1.jpg

Cam feed of the LHC.

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html (http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html)

Pretty boring seeing people walking around but still pretty cool.

way to be about two weeks late on the joke there dumb fuck

[Deadhead Derek]

Nothing is going to happen.

[Deadhead Derek]

you must be young.

[Le Goat]

and retarded

[Le Goat]

Serious question here, are you really retarded?

[Kerjack]

Posts like that are the ones that make me hope Crack is actually a dupe.

[Pollo]

WTF is a year btw? How long our dinky rock takes a trip around our dinky star?

dude, you can't be fucking serious you're asking this, right?

[Mustard]

I think Crack just jumped the shark.

[Kerjack]

How many AU per gallon does your* car get Crack?

[Pete t]

Dude, the universe is unimaginably "old" by our standards, but from the other perspective, "our time" and history as a species is minutely immeasurable compared to the total history of the cosmos. Our time is so short, it's retarded to hold our standards as anything truly tangible. Or to hold any regard over whatsoever.

your one of those people who believe weed makes them more motivated and smarter eh.

[Kerjack]

Not sure, but it does get 2.086211482e-12 Parsecs/gallon


TRICK QUESTION ASSWIPE, GALLONS ARE TO SMALL TO MATTER IN COMPARISON TO THE UNIVERSE! YOU CAVED TO THE MAN! WORST YET THE IMPERIAL MAN!

[Archangel]

For someone talking like such a pompous dick, your English sucks fucking balls. Stop learning Spanish, learn proper English first.

[Archangel]

So I hear they've had to shut the thing down for two months.


Way to go, folks.

[Mustard]

Fuckin pussies.

[VoxAngelikus]

Maybe someone is trying to tell us something?

Like "DON'T START THIS FUCKING THING UP AGAIN!!!"

[Le Goat]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/chknfaqr/818c20e3.jpg

Yes, this is real...

http://media.1up.com/media?id=3652137&type=lg
GENEVA, Switzerland (Wire News Service) - Fears concerning the potential of the Large Hadron Collider to end the Earth -- once dismissed as naive -- were nearly made manifest earlier this month, when a crowbar-wielding hero was forced to repel an alien invasion brought through a temporal vortex that was accidentally opened by the mammoth doomsday machine. Okay, that didn't actually happen. But in the picture above (and the ones below), we can see the next best thing. You may recall that back in September, an anonymous CERN researcher working on the Large Hadron Collider particle accelerator gained a small amount of Internet infamy when it was pointed out (http://www.popgive.com/2008/09/gordon-freeman-spotted-at-cern.html) that he bared a striking resemblance to Half-Life (http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=2010527) hero Gordon Freeman. Since there was some concern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider#Safety_of_particle_collision ) at the time about the potential of the Large Hadron Collider to explode the world, the bloggers at Reddit took the necessary precautions (http://blog.reddit.com/2008/09/crowbar-headcrab-and-half-life-strategy.html) by sending this researcher a few safety tools: a crowbar, a headcrab hat, and a Half-Life strategy guide. Not only did he receive this survival package, but it seems he put it to fantastic use.
As you can see, the folks at CERN took the opportunity to hold a small photo shoot (http://blog.reddit.com/2008/11/crowbar-arrived-at-cern-freeman-was.html) with their newly received goodies, acting out the Half-Life fantasies we all prayed wouldn't become reality (via (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/56057) Shacknews). You can see a few more photos in the full gallery (http://picasaweb.google.com/reddit/GordonFreemanCERNAndAWreckingBar?authkey=bqut7SFV-Cc#), and there are even some videos you can download.
You know, maybe it's just us, but it's reassuring to see those in charge of a potential doomsday machine have such a great sense of humor. A few more pics follow:
http://media.1up.com/media?id=3652138&type=lg http://media.1up.com/media?id=3652139&type=lg
And in other news, is that a BioShock (http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3150028) bathysphere back there? What other mad gaming-related experiments are these CERN folks conducting?!
http://media.1up.com/media?id=3652140&type=lg