Offseason

[The Dude]

Ruffdog looks like a low rent Joey Fatone

[Marshy]

id rent him out.


So more of this right?

http://www.leafs-suck.com/pictures/26_b.jpg

[ADD]

Ruffdog looks like a low rent Joey Fatone

That's harsh. What did Joey ever do to you?

[Hoser]

id rent him out.


So more of this right?

http://www.leafs-suck.com/pictures/26_b.jpg

I'll cut you!!!

[Superhuman]

All hail the King

http://cdn.nhl.com/rangers/bc/images/downloads/wallpaper/0607/Lundqvist1024.jpg

[doors43]

The king with no Stanley Cup rings, mind you.

[OTiS]

Oilers!!!!!

[Superhuman]

The king with no Stanley Cup rings, mind you.
All hail the Messiah

http://www.authenticsportscollectibles.com/store/images/MESSPHS008013-L.jpg

[elementbr10]

It's been too long. Hockey needs to start back up right now.

[OTiS]

This one is better:

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1106/nhl_ap_messier_580.jpg

[Superhuman]

August is the worst month. The weather is muggy, school starts, and you're always in the deepest hockey withdrawal during August.

[swss]

This offseason is dragging now.....

[Superhuman]

zErbl0ciCZs

[doors43]

^ I'm not watching that. Bad enough I watched it then.

You didn't say Messier was the king. You claimed Lundqvist and he has no fucking rings, dammit. Messier was quite good.

August does suck. I like Little League, so that's what I watch in August and this year, I've watched a tad of the Olympics.

[Superhuman]

The King has Olympic gold. Good enough.

[bmw]

this is weird

[bmw]

fuck my life GO LEAFS

[ADD]

I got my home opener tickets against Trashville. I'm happy.

[OTiS]

I got my home opener tickets against Trashville. I'm happy.
It's hard for me to get home opener tickets since I live in Vancouver. However, I guess I could fly there and enjoy some real hockey!

[bmw]

rumor is mccabe on the move soon. throw in 6 teams interested in him.

[Marshy]

All hail the King

http://cdn.nhl.com/rangers/bc/images/downloads/wallpaper/0607/Lundqvist1024.jpg

This is the NHL. We hail no Kings.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/NHL_Mitchell/Los%20Angeles%20Kings/fullj.getty76648737jg006_los_angeles_k.jpg

[wacker]

I popped my new echerry

[Marshy]

i was a bit mad that yahoo wont let me start a fantasy NHL season yet.

[shdaow]

Wooooooh...

[wacker]

I guess Rick DiPietro is no longer the best goalie in the NHL.

[Superhuman]

He never was.

[FrozenBagel]

good to see the Islander/Ranger battle extends outside of NY!

[Superhuman]

DiPietro's most common position:

http://stickinrink.ca/images/thumbnails/dipietro-thumb.jpg

[wacker]

He never was.

But, but Patsfan said so!!!

[Superhuman]

good to see the Islander/Ranger battle extends outside of NY!
I dunno who the fuck you are, but if you're an Islanders fan, I hope you accidentally slit your jugular the next time you use a knife.

[FrozenBagel]

I'm your favorite Sabres fan....

Fingerbanger --> is now FrozenBagel!

[wacker]

I don't remember that South Park episode

[bmw]

I dunno who the fuck you are, but if you're an Islanders fan, I hope you accidentally slit your jugular the next time you use a knife.
hahaha

[Superhuman]

Islanders fans are filthy scum and a waste of sperm.

[doors43]

The King has Olympic gold. Good enough.

In that case... Olympic Gold and 3 Cup rings a King doth make:

http://www.hhweb.com/photos/cup2003/Brodeur_With_Cup_small.jpg

and a few Vezinas. Fuckin' A.

[shdaow]

Don't forget a World Cup

[Superhuman]

In that case... Olympic Gold and 3 Cup rings a King doth make:

http://www.hhweb.com/photos/cup2003/Brodeur_With_Cup_small.jpg

and a few Vezinas. Fuckin' A.
No one cares about NJ. He can be king of that shithole Newark for all I care.

[Superhuman]

In that case... Olympic Gold and 3 Cup rings a King doth make:

http://www.hhweb.com/photos/cup2003/Brodeur_With_Cup_small.jpg

and a few Vezinas. Fuckin' A.
I see your 3 Cups and raise you 3.
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1112/nhl_ap_messier_200.jpghttp://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1112/nhl_ap_messier_200.jpghttp://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1112/nhl_ap_messier_200.jpghttp://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1112/nhl_ap_messier_200.jpghttp://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1112/nhl_ap_messier_200.jpghttp://www.fansedge.com/Images/Product/33-44/33-44810-F.jpg

[Superhuman]

And just for good measure.....look at him strangling that albino lab rat with no effort. He looks bored.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/johnny-spin/Messier.jpg

[doors43]

Drafted and home-developed Devil for life >> borrowed Oiler.

[Superhuman]

This video says otherwise

U2W96aCLP_Q

[doors43]

I am not watching your pro-NY videos, dammit. Believe me, I know the things that have happened in recent memory. And recent memory is 3 NJ cups since NY's last one. You can't go on about Messier when your post was that Lundqvist was the king. Lundqvist is too good to be stuck on the Rags.

[VoxAngelikus]

I see your 3 Cups and raise you 3.
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1112/nhl_ap_messier_200.jpghttp://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1112/nhl_ap_messier_200.jpghttp://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1112/nhl_ap_messier_200.jpghttp://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1112/nhl_ap_messier_200.jpghttp://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1112/nhl_ap_messier_200.jpghttp://www.fansedge.com/Images/Product/33-44/33-44810-F.jpg

Too bad only one of those was with your team.

[elementbr10]

I was just looking at the Aeros schedule. I get to see the Baby Pens play in Houston, which is pretty sweet. I haven't paid much attention but saw the Aeros got rid of Shawn Belle to the Canadiens for Corey Locke.

[OTiS]

Too bad only one of those was with your team.
5 were with the... Greatest.Team.Ever.

[Superhuman]

Too bad only one of those was with your team.
I hope you, doors, and the other 10 Devils fans around the world enjoyed your cups.


And it's not too bad. 1 cup is enough. 1 cup for the Rangers is like 4 cups for another team. That's how much we suck at winning.

[Superhuman]

You guys are right though.


Marty is the king.....of douchebags.

[doors43]

You guys are right though.


Marty is the king.....of douchebags.

Oh, the wit coming out of you is fantastic tonight!!!

5 were with the... Greatest.Team.Ever.

Arguably one of them, but that all depends on who you ask. We should have a poll, or wait -- I had a similar one in the old board, which was which was the greatest Cup team (and asshole that I am picked those 94 bastards) but the greatest team ever over time could be them, could be the Isles, could be a couple years of Penguins domination.

[shdaow]

Good old NHL thread brings us all back together

[wacker]

Like moths to a flame...

[FrozenBagel]

And bugs to a Zapper!

[Marshy]

Sabres fans, do you wonder what Thomas Vanek is doing with all that money?

http://i35.tinypic.com/zvwgg3.jpg

And something for those in the big D.... this is what your beloved team spent its 2003 NHL Entry Draft #165, 3rd Round Pick on.... Gino Guyer.

http://i35.tinypic.com/1zyzkld.jpg

[Marshy]

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=246099&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_nhl


EVELETH, Minn. - Brett Hull (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=647) and longtime New York Rangers Brian Leetch (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=422) and Mike Richter (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=438) are members of the 2008 class of the U.S. Hockey Hall of Fame.
The four-member group announced Tuesday also includes Cammi Granato, the all-time scoring leader for the U.S. women's hockey team with 343 points in 205 games.
Hull, one of the leading goal scorers in NHL history with 741, recorded 1,391 points in a 20-year career that included Stanley Cup titles in Dallas and Detroit.
Leetch was an 11-time all-star in 18 NHL seasons, all but one with the Rangers. He won two Norris Trophies as the league's best defenceman and was a Stanley Cup playoff MVP.
Richter was a three-time all-star in a 14-year career as goalie with the Rangers.

[OTiS]

Where the hell did ruffy go? Did he change his name too?

[Marshy]

no idea. i am sure he will be back once hockey season rolls around.

[Pollo]

Where the hell did ruffy go? Did he change his name too?

maybe this isn't a bad thing, you know ... just pointing that out.

[doors43]

Those HOF picks are all okay by me. I'm glad Granato got in there.

[OTiS]

maybe this isn't a bad thing, you know ... just pointing that out.
But I can't do any Canuck bashing with you guys, it's not the same. There isn't even a fucking Flames fan here for me to bash either.

[Marshy]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Ross-Bernstein-hockey-author-5-ways-I-d-change?urn=nhl,99918

5 Ways That I'd Change the NHL by Ross Bernstein


1. Get rid of the instigator penalty. It is a hideous rule that needs to be killed. It allows the agitators way too much power to roam free and pester the opposition's top players. These filthy disturbers are getting away with murder, turtling and hiding behind the rule as soon as an enforcer challenges him or tries to hold him accountable for his actions.
2. Allow the enforcers to wear the "ultimate fighter" gloves. Look, enforcers serve a purpose out on the ice and without them we would never see our star players score goals. Like it or not, their presence keeps the peace. They are specialists, like kickers or punters in football. You may not agree with them, but you can't win without them. Everything has gotten bigger in the NHL over the years except the surface of the ice. Heavyweights of old were 5-foot-10 and 185 pounds, while today they can go as big as 6-foot-7 and 275 pounds. These guys are monsters and it is just a matter of time before one of them connects with an overhand right and kills somebody. A lawsuit like that could shut down the entire league. The gloves will help out and still let these guys be effective in doing their jobs.
3. Make the enforcers "flip their lids" when they drop the gloves. There are way too many hand injuries suffered by these guys from hitting helmets -- especially the code breakers who dip their heads during combat. We don't want to see our heavy's on the shelf with busted knuckles, we want to see them on the ice. The kids do it in junior and it works, so I say have the big boys do it too. Lose the helmets.
4. Expand from 30 to 32 teams, just like the NFL, with eight four-team divisions. Put a couple of teams back up in Canada too, where they belong. There are plenty to choose from south of the Mason Dixon Line -- take your pick, we don't care.
5. Realignment, Realignment, Realignment ... As a follow-up to No. 4, I would love to see my Minnesota Wild (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/min/) get put into a new realigned division alongside Chicago, Detroit and St. Louis. These west coast times are killing us and our kids can't stay up until one in the morning on school nights to watch the games. That is your future fan base talking... HELLO? Plus, we aren't going to make a road-trip to Calgary or Vancouver to watch our squad -- but we sure as heck will drive to the Windy City or Motown to see some blood. We have natural rivalries with these cities in other sports, so it only makes sense. Bring back the old Norris baby!

[Hoser]

Number 2 is retarded. There is no way you could play with them under your gloves. Number 3 is a must. I hate fighting a guy with a bucket on. I always flip mine so should the other guy.

#1 is the best out of all of them. Fucking gay rule.

[Marshy]

Number 2 is retarded. There is no way you could play with them under your gloves. Number 3 is a must. I hate fighting a guy with a bucket on. I always flip mine so should the other guy.

#1 is the best out of all of them. Fucking gay rule.

totally agree.

[OTiS]

Number 2 is retarded. There is no way you could play with them under your gloves. Number 3 is a must. I hate fighting a guy with a bucket on. I always flip mine so should the other guy.

#1 is the best out of all of them. Fucking gay rule.
Okay...who are you?

[Marshy]

i am all for putting two more teams in canada!

[doors43]

I've got no problem with adding teams to Canada. Just leave ours alone.

Yours will be fine. It's Nashville that's gonna end up going (and to think, NJ almost got shipped there years ago).

This list is pretty cool. # 2 is stupid as all hell, but I like the rest of them. I don't care where the Wild play though because they don't play my team very often, but if it makes life better for their fans (and they have great fans), they should move them.

They should move the Kings out. Fuck them. They already have the Ducks and honestly... who the fuck likes the Kings anymore?

[OTiS]

Yeah put Winnipeg back onto the map! Quebec can have their team back too, goddamn it!

[OTiS]

They should move the Kings out. Fuck them. They already have the Ducks and honestly... who the fuck likes the Kings anymore?
Three teams in California... How the hell did that happen anyway?

[ADD]

The Avs stay

[OTiS]

Panthers can go to Quebec.

[ADD]

Quebec can have a team, but they must change the name to the Cowards or the Surrenderers

[Pollo]

Three teams in California... How the hell did that happen anyway?

:mad:

Yours will be fine. It's Nashville that's gonna end up going (and to think, NJ almost got shipped there years ago).

This list is pretty cool. # 2 is stupid as all hell, but I like the rest of them. I don't care where the Wild play though because they don't play my team very often, but if it makes life better for their fans (and they have great fans), they should move them.

They should move the Kings out. Fuck them. They already have the Ducks and honestly... who the fuck likes the Kings anymore?

the Kings have been irrelevant since Gretzky left and it's taken them forever to rebuild that team. had they traded Kopitar in a rumored Ott/LA/Chi deal, they would of been idiots.

[wacker]

We have the same fucking conversations over and over again in this thread.

[ADD]

Well it is the OFF SEASON

[wacker]

I know but nothing new ever comes up when the bring teams back to Canada!! conversation happens again and again...

[ADD]

Put a team in an urban ghetto. Now there's a topic of discussion! I demand a team for Harlem!

[nitz]

Flyers gonna win it all this year! I can feel it.

[ADD]

We'll have to find more brothers that can skate.

If you build it, they will come or rob the place blind.

[shdaow]

Put a team in an urban ghetto. Now there's a topic of discussion! I demand a team for Harlem!

Compton Puckbunnies FTW!!!

[shdaow]

That would make four California teams.

But they'd go undefeated! It's not like any team would make it to the stadium.

[bmw]

i guess its see ya later mccabe

:(

[bmw]

i miss hal gill nation

:(

[ADD]

Beamer!

Me too.

[bmw]

im considering bringing out the jersey for the season to remember the good times, because i have a feeling this isnt going to be a good season, although i hope im wrong.

[swss]

They should move the Kings out. Fuck them. They already have the Ducks and honestly... who the fuck likes the Kings anymore?

I would take the Kings and the diehard kings/hockey fan over the Ducks and their bandwagon fans anyday plus no one in LA would be willing to go to OC to see that crap...

[Marshy]

Kings and Panthers should go away.

[wacker]

I'm just glad it looks like he is going to the Panthers.

[bmw]

they say jay bo isn't involved in the deal with mccabe and the leafs. anyone have any idea who would be coming to the leafs?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=246307&lid=sublink02&lpos=headlines_main

[shdaow]

Probably draft picks, maybe Olesz, David Booth, or Stephen Weiss.... oh yeah, and Wade BELAK!!!!

EDIT: Actually, now that I look at it, there are a bevy of players we could be targeting, though I don't know how inclined Florida will be to give up Michael Frolik, Shawn Matthias, or Keith Ballard.

[bmw]

fuck i really don't want prospects.

any chance nathan horton could be involved? i'd fucking take that in a heartbeat. fuck id get a horton jersey asap

[shdaow]

As much as I would love it, I don't know if they'd part with him after signing a 6-Year contract extension. If we could get Keith Ballard, I'd be very happy.

[bmw]

why not, the leafs are willing to part with mccabe after a big contract extension. we should all know by now that no player is untouchable. there are very few that are loyal to one franchise.

[wacker]

I think you guys are severely overselling McCabe right now, I'd see a pick/not their best prospect(s) in return.

[Cornflake]

TSN says:

Bryan McCabe (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=987) isn't going anywhere – until the Toronto Maple Leafs pay him $2 million in an owed signing bonus on Sept. 1.
But, as soon as the Leafs make that payment to McCabe, sources close to the Leafs say he will become part of a trade with the Florida Panthers.
All the pieces of the transaction have reportedly been agreed upon - sources say the Panthers and Leafs have settled on the players involved and McCabe has indicated he will waive his no-movement clause to go to Florida - and the only reason to delay the transaction is to allow Toronto, not the Panthers, to be on the hook for the signing bonus.
Florida would then be on the hook for the balance of McCabe's contract, which will pay him $4.15 million ($6.15 million minus the $2 million dollar signing bonus) this season and $4.15 million in each of the remaining two seasons, although McCabe's salary cap hit for the Panthers will be the same as it was for the Maple Leafs -- $5.75 million.
Leaf sources say there is likely to be another Leaf player going to Florida as part of the package and Toronto is expected to get at least one player back from the Panthers, but Panther defenceman Jay Bouwmeester (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=2876), the subject of much trade speculation in south Florida, is definitely not involved in any way.
In the past, McCabe has refused to waive his no-movement clause, but Pulver added he believes McCabe's future in Toronto will be resolved before training camp opens, stating "early in September" as a likely target.
"We continue to discuss all options, including staying with the Maple Leafs or the possibility of going somewhere else," Pulver told TSN.
Last season, McCabe scored five goals with 18 assists and minus-2 rating.

[Cornflake]

Just thought of something else... anyone know when Kubina's trade window closes??

I think he had a 45 day window or something like that this summer...

[bmw]

I think you guys are severely overselling McCabe right now, I'd see a pick/not their best prospect(s) in return.

im not interested in a prospect, give a young player that has plenty of years ahead of him. the leafs dont need any more dmen, they already have an excess of them.

fletcher isnt going to deal mccabe unless he's getting something in return. im hoping he's not foolish on this one here. a dman is not what the leafs need, fuck jay bo or mike van ryn. we already have 2 young leafs dmen that will either be healthy scratches watching from the pressbox or in the minors because the leafs already have too many dmen.

why go and acquire another dman? yeah if the player is significant and will make an impact, but if its jay bo it probably wont do the leafs much good. he's going to need a new contract in a year and it'll probably cost the leafs a few bucks... something like jeff finger type of money, likely even more. i can only seeing it hurt the leafs.

give me a forward with upside and potential. give me a motherfucking forward that can put the puck into the net. that's what the leafs need.

[bmw]

and fuck kubina

[bmw]

just kidding, i love kubie

[bmw]

kubina is my boy

[bmw]

fuck yeah 5 in a row

[bmw]

it doesnt matter unless he's a fan of hal gill

[Hoser]

He is a Leafs fan. So thats helping him.


I don't mind Kubina, paid a bit to much, but he is ok. Now if they get stupid and try to trade Kaberle I will fucking lose it.

[bmw]

all these fucking new names are confusing me

[ADD]

Hawks-Leafs Cup Finals '09. Book it. I can dream, right?

[bmw]

and kubinas contract looks pretty fucking good now a few years later
dont forget st. louis offered him more money than the leafs did.

[Hoser]

I still think Kaber needs to be our highest paid Dman

[bmw]

kaber should be one of the highest paid dmen in the league

[ADD]

lulz


Ruffy show up yet?

I don't think so. He's retarded and Canadian. It might take his slow ass a while to realize the old board is closed.

[bmw]

yeah i fucking went there someone try to go against that

[bmw]

ruff is probably trying to find and buy that sundin canucks jersey from that pic awhile back

[bmw]

true story

[wacker]

We have the same fucking conversations over and over again in this thread.

[Hoser]

No we dont...








GILL...

[bmw]

wacker we havent talk about gill for a fucking long time

[ADD]

Since he was traded :(

[bmw]

also whenever i show up around here, which is rare these days.
fuck it, im still going to continue to rep gill. he's a fucking soldier

[ADD]

Maybe he can help Syd find his pair

[bmw]

thats an impossible task brother

[shdaow]

He can at least teach the kid how to grow a proper 'stache

[ADD]

You can't teach that. Believe me, I tried to learn. It took me till 26 to at least grow something that can be considered a mustache. It sucks, but it's there.

[bmw]

He can at least teach the kid how to grow a proper 'stache
crosby has to hit puberty first

[Pollo]

lulz


Ruffy show up yet?

maybe this isn't a bad thing, you know ... just pointing that out.

also, what the fuck is the wait on trading Schneider? I figured he would be dealt by now to a team like Ottawa or Montreal who can use a guy like him.

[bmw]

maybes there's not enough interest. what's his contract at?

[Pollo]

this is his last year @ 5.75 mil of his 2-year deal

Burke needs to cut salary to go with the cap, and Schneider is the only option since no one will take Marchant

[bmw]

that's probably why he's not gone yet. look at his age and the size of his contract. people thought that kubie was looking bad, heh..

[Pollo]

I agree it's most likely his age, but I figure if a contender can use a vet like him in his last year of the deal, then why not? especially for how crazy the market went this offseason.

[bmw]

then look for him to be trade deadline bait. it makes a hell of a lot more sense for contenting teams, no?

[Pollo]

I wouldn't mind that, the issue is that Burke needs to cut salary to meet the cap prior to the start of the season. and if Selanne decides he wants to return, there's no way he'll be able to fit him unless he parts with Schneider.

[Cornflake]

Best value D we have is Kabs... For like just over 4 mil... You know who else I like and I think has alot of potential... Ian White. Just lacks experience. Reminds me of Jason Smith...

[shdaow]

Jason Smith is much more of a defensive enforcer than Ian White, but for me, the ideal pairings (assuming we don't get a roster D from Florida):

Kaberle-Kubina
Schenn-Coliacovo (if not healthy, then Strahlman)
Finger-White

[bmw]

its actually this

McCabe-33---------------5,750,000.(3 Yrs:UFA)
Kubina-31---------------5,000,000.(2 Yrs:UFA)
Kaberle-30--------------4,250,000.(3 Yrs:UFA)
Finger-28---------------3,500,000.(4 Yrs:UFA)
Colaiacovo-25-----------1,283,333.(2 Yr :UFA)
Frogren-27--------------1,050,000.(2 Yrs:UFA)
White-24------------------850,000.(2 Yrs:RFA)
Stralman-21---------------731,667.(2 Yrs:RFA)

[shdaow]

I totally forgot about Frogren... yeah, you're right Bimmer, we got too many D. I wonder which one of them get traded during the season (I have a feeling it may be Carlo or White)

[OTiS]

its actually this

McCabe-33---------------5,750,000.(3 Yrs:UFA)
Kubina-31---------------5,000,000.(2 Yrs:UFA)
Kaberle-30--------------4,250,000.(3 Yrs:UFA)
Finger-28---------------3,500,000.(4 Yrs:UFA)
Colaiacovo-25-----------1,283,333.(2 Yr :UFA)
Frogren-27--------------1,050,000.(2 Yrs:UFA)
White-24------------------850,000.(2 Yrs:RFA)
Stralman-21---------------731,667.(2 Yrs:RFA)
What are they planning for? 1-0 games?

That's a lot of money on D-men as well. That one up there at the top has got to be the biggest waste of money too.

[Cornflake]

Colaiacovo is iffy for me... His is smaller which causes him tons of injuries. He would be one I would think about letting go in a trade.

[Marshy]

i think the wait on mathieu is that they want to see how he looks in camp. he is getting a bit older and this might be the year that he just completely dumps out.

thats a lot of money for that aged veteran. i think we might be stuck with him at this point. i doubt that we see selanne back.

[Pollo]

i think the wait on mathieu is that they want to see how he looks in camp. he is getting a bit older and this might be the year that he just completely dumps out.

thats a lot of money for that aged veteran. i think we might be stuck with him at this point. i doubt that we see selanne back.

really the only thing we can get back for Mathieu is decent prospects, although I would love to get some more offense on this team if Selanne is gone. I remember reading Boston, Montreal, and Ottawa (and others that aren't coming to mind) express some interest in him, but Burke sooner or later has to deal him to meet the cap.

[bmw]

What are they planning for? 1-0 games?

That's a lot of money on D-men as well. That one up there at the top has got to be the biggest waste of money too.
considering what fucking stupid teams are dishing out for dmen these days i think thats a pretty fair price.

don't think so? then why are there a slew of teams looking to get mccabe?

[OTiS]

Bryan McCabe (http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=Bryan_McCabe)

Too true!

[bmw]

i refuse to read that

[OTiS]

Ha ha, because you know the sarcastic truth will come out!!

[OTiS]

No. And this whole waiting around for the goddamn season to start is getting lame.

Whitney is out for up to 5 months. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-penguins-whitney&prov=ap&type=lgns)

[shdaow]

At least it's some kind of news....

[shdaow]

Supposedly Mike Van Ryn might be coming back to Toronto in the McCabe deal... PLEASE NO FLETCHER

Van Ryn? (http://www.sportsnet.ca/thewire/hockey/2008/08/16/news_of_potential_trade/)

[Cornflake]

The training camps must start so no???

[VoxAngelikus]

When do we get to make preseason predictions and shit like bet on who will win the Cup? And tell me we are doing another fantasy league? Otherwise I will be </3

[Pollo]

When do we get to make preseason predictions and shit like bet on who will win the Cup? And tell me we are doing another fantasy league? Otherwise I will be </3

I've gone ahead and made a fantasy NHL thread here (http://forum.gorillamask.net/showthread.php?t=2902).

also, there are bookie odds on the 2009 Stanley Cup champs here (http://forum.gorillamask.net/showthread.php?t=2184).

[Cornflake]

Should almost do some predictions on where or what Sundin is going to do... Latest out of TSN was Rangers...

[Marshy]

haha i am up for that

[OTiS]

Should almost do some predictions on where or what Sundin is going to do... Latest out of TSN was Rangers...
I heard that this morning as well, but on TSN his agent is denying that he wants to go there.
LINK (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=246683&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_nhl)

[VoxAngelikus]

Sundin to the Rags? I would think he would want to go to a team where he might actually win a Stanley Cup, not a superstar graveyard like MSG>

[ruffdog]

Nagy has left the NHL after signing a contract with Cherepovets in the Russian Continential League.

Nagy has dealt with a few injuries recently and wants to prove he can stay healthy before returning to the NHL.

[OTiS]

Oh fuck...he's back.

[ruffdog]

I love you too man

[ADD]

Hey now. Ruffy is the NHL peanut butter to my NBA jam in the news dept. We're like human newswires (aka we have no life)

[Marshy]

Hey now. Ruffy is the NHL peanut butter to my NBA jam in the news dept. We're like human newswires (aka we have no life)

what the hell is the NBA?

[ruffdog]

Where the fuck have you been? Your mother and I have been worried sick!

7 day fishing trip in the middle of nowhere

[OTiS]

Well, go wash up. You smell like a two dollar whore on a Friday night.

Fixed.

[Marshy]

two dollar whores are people too!

[ADD]

Says your mom

[Marshy]

please my mom has to carry around a change belt. 2 dollars is way over her limit.

[Cornflake]

The only thing with Sundin... I would not really want to see him go to a divisional rival. But especially Montreal or Ottawa.

It would be nice to have him back as Captain of the Leafs to offer leadership to the young guys...

Then again if he doesn't come back it would have been nice if he would have let the team trade him last trade deadline so at least we would have gotten something for him.

[OTiS]

Maybe he did that because he was fed up with the organization that wouldn't give him a supporting cast. Payback is a bitch.

[Cornflake]

Wait at least 3 hours Hannibal...

A supporting cast... I recall some pretty stacked teams with the Leafs that he was a part of...

I will be glad when he makes up his mind though, and why would he not do it sooner... Teams have to keep that cap space open. If I am not mistaking he was considering: Toronto, Montreal, New York, Vancouver or retirement. I thought Ottawa was in the mix too not sure though...

[Pete t]

I don't think he would go to Ottawa just based on a respect factor. I would love to see him in a sens jersey because he's one of the leafs players who made that organization classy and respectful. Fact of the matter is he won't become a senator or even a Canadien. Leafs/retire/west coast is my bet.

[bmw]

seriously if mats was actually considering toronto he would have signed with the leafs months ago. he's now contemplating what new team to sign with. no way mats seriously takes this long to sign back with the leafs. i mean, camannnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Pete t]

he should go to the wings if he wants a cup fast

[ADD]

He'll go to whichever non shitty team offers him the most cashe.

[Pete t]

wings/rangers

[Pollo]

if Sundin goes to the Wings, just hand them the fucking Cup already.

[shdaow]

If I had to choose between the Wings and Rangers, I'd go to the Wings and be apart of and 82-game rape fest. They'd have the Swedish 5 (Plus or minus 3 or 4 Swedes).

Zetterberg-Sundin-Holmstrom-Lidstrom-Kronwall... SCREW YOU DETROIT

[VoxAngelikus]

Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, New York and Philadelphia are five teams interested in Sundin.

But they've been saying all along that there were six teams interested. Anyone have any idea who that sixth team might be?

[shdaow]

My suspicions lean towards it being either a team on the cusp of contention (Like Chicago), or a team trying to extend the lifespan of their current roster (Calgary or San Jose), but "officially" I haven't heard anything about who the 6th team could be.

[VoxAngelikus]

My suspicions lean towards it being either a team on the cusp of contention (Like Chicago), or a team trying to extend the lifespan of their current roster (Calgary or San Jose), but "officially" I haven't heard anything about who the 6th team could be.

I wouldn't mind seeing Mats throw on the black and red. We need a solid center and he would give us a couple of good lines. Granted, we would have to get rid of a couple of guys to fit him, but I'm sure Sweet Lou could maneuver the numbers.

[ruffdog]

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

The NHL refuses to entertain compensation offers from a newly formed Russian hockey league for the signing of forward Alex Radulov while the player was under contract with the Nashville Predators.

And until Radulov's contract with the Predators is honoured, the NHL won't consider negotiating a player transfer agreement with the Continental Hockey League (KHL), NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told The Associated Press in an e-mail on Monday.

"The bottom line from our perspective is that the player has a contract which our rules obligate him to respect," Daly said. "Our rules don't recognize a player (or his new team) being able to 'buy' the way out of an existing contract. It's not a scenario that our existing rules contemplate or allow."

Radulov is at the centre of a controversy between the NHL and the KHL after the player signed with KHL's Ufa last month.

KHL president Alexander Medvedev said Radulov's signing was legal because it occurred days before the leagues reached an agreement to not sign players under contract. Medvedev added that Ufa has since made an offer to compensate the Predators, but has yet to receive a response.

Daly said he isn't aware if an offer was made, but insisted that such a deal wouldn't be accepted.

The Predators declined comment, deferring the matter to the NHL.

The exchange between league officials came after Medvedev met with NHL commissioner Gary Bettman last week in an attempt to secure a formal player transfer agreement that would provide compensation for teams in both leagues that lose players. Medvedev said he presented the NHL with a framework of a deal that would provide a formula for compensation based on the age of a player, how high he was drafted, and other variable factors.

Daly said the NHL is open to negotiating such a deal, but not until the Radulov issue is resolved.

Medvedev said there is no mechanism in the KHL rules to force Radulov's return to the NHL, and said the matter might have to be resolved in court.

He argued that Radulov's case is no different than NHL teams signing Nikita Filatov (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/players/Nikita_Filatov), Viktor Tikhonov (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/players/Viktor_Tikhonov), Jason Krog (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/players/Jason_Krog), Tomas Mojzis and Fedor Fedorov (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/players/Fedor_Fedorov), all of whom he said were under contract in Russia.

Daly disputes that claim, saying the league has documentation stating that those players were free to sign with their respective NHL teams.

The International Ice Hockey Federation is investigating the status of all six players, including Radulov. The IIHF doesn't have the authority to rescind contracts, but could bar players from taking part in international competitions, including the Olympics.

Medvedev, last weekend, announced the KHL has extended a moratorium preventing its teams from signing NHL players under contract.

"We should forget emotions and we should start a new life with a transfer agreement in place," Medvedev said. "But without such an agreement, if somebody will break the moratorium ... then it will be everybody could take any player and it will not be good for hockey."

Daly dismissed the moratorium by questioning why one was necessary.

"The KHL shouldn't need a 'moratorium' to adhere to a policy of respecting legal and binding contractual commitments," Daly said.

[ruffdog]

With Pierre-Marc Bouchard locked up to a new long-term contract, the Minnesota Wild have shifted their focus on to Marian Gaborik, reports the Ottawa Citizen.

On Saturday, Bouchard inked a five-year, $20.4 million contract. Gaborik will undoubtedly receive a higher contract, one that could be the richest in franchise history.

"Now that Pierre-Marc is done and we know what our team looks like going forward, it's time we start talking to Marian," Wild assistant GM Tom Lynn told the Citizen.


According to the paper, the Wild will pitch a variety of proposals to Gaborik in early August, ranging from four- to seven-years in length.

Gaborik, 26, is one-year away from unrestricted free agency. The Sun claims the Wild plans to make an offer averaging in the $8.5 million range.

Gaborik can ask for as much as 20 percent of the team's salary cap, which would climb past $11 million a season, but Wild GM Doug Risebrough told the St. Paul Pioneer-Press that Gaborik's salary won't reach that figure

I predict Gaborik becomes a FA and sign with Vancouver to play with his buddy Demitra.

[fah_q]

J8M2SNe6siA

[corban]

Well, what do we have 1 month until training camp?

It will be nice to have hockey back, oh and to play another team besides the dam Red Wings.

Dam Hossa....:mad:

[ruffdog]

go make an intro or get raped

[swss]

J8M2SNe6siA



nice rotation, but gets points deducted for not keeping his legs together and sticking the landing....

[Cornflake]

Matt's agent said that Detroit is not interested in his services...

It can't be Montreal... I will fucking puke if it is Montreal.

Imagine if Pittsburgh picked him up though...

[Pollo]

I don't buy that Detroit wouldn't be interested ... do they have enough to afford him with the cap? and how could Mats not be interested with the juggernaut they have?

[Fletch]

Matt's agent said that Detroit is not interested in his services...

It can't be Montreal... I will fucking puke if it is Montreal.

Imagine if Pittsburgh picked him up though...

Uh, no way they could afford him unless he plays for almost nothing.

[Cornflake]

Yeah but if he did play for the Pens... I would bet lots of money (and probably get shitty odds) that that is where the cup would end up... Their or Toronto hahaha....

[OTiS]

Uh, no way they could afford him unless he plays for almost nothing.
Honestly, can you put a price on winning the cup? Look at Hossa, he took less than what he could have got.

And speaking of the "juggernaut", remember that the bigger they are, the harder they fall. They spent so long at the top of the league to only go out first or second round. It could easily happen again.

[Cornflake]

I think that is the best spot for him to win (Pittsburgh). And I really would not be pissed as if he went to another division rival... Plus he would reunite with Gill.

So that is my vote...

He resigns with Toronto or goes to the Pens...

[bmw]

does anyone have a time machine? i seriously need to fucking know if fletcher does the insane and trades mccabe for another defenseman.

please, someone, dont let this happen.

[bmw]

to the 8th page convo about mats, cmon boys, we fucking know exactly what sundin wants. he doesn't want to go to a builder, he wants a contender that can win it in a year or two.

if sundin wants to go to a builder he'll park his swedish ass in toronto. i wouldnt mind seeing him a wing, but he'd have to play for $1 million for the year. if im sundin, and i see that roster and the potential, i do it. the leafs have made him rich enough throughout his career, he really doesn't need another season of $6+ million.

yeah yeah yeah, but the money would be nice.

then again, when you retire and look back at your career and you see no award, no rings, then you might wonder "what if i took that pay cut and went to a real contender"

team loyalty should mean shit to sundin at this point in his career. he's not going to do it with the leafs. just go somewhere where there's a LEGIT opportunity.

fuck and all this is coming from a guy who fucking bleeds blue and white all day every day.

[Superhuman]

Fuck Sundin. All this Sundin talk has gotten tiresome. He's not the second coming of Christ. Fuck him.

[VoxAngelikus]

Fuck Sundin. All this Sundin talk has gotten tiresome. He's not the second coming of Christ. Fuck him. Until he signs with the Rangers. Then I'll give him a never-ending blowjob until he fails to bring us a Cup.

[Superhuman]

No, fuck him. I don't wan this fucking grandpa on my team. He can take his wrinkly Swedish meatballs elsewhere.

[Pollo]

Fuck Sundin. All this Sundin talk has gotten tiresome. He's not the second coming of Christ. Fuck him.

at least it isn't as bad as the attention Brett Favre is getting ... next thing you'll hear is what Favre is having for lunch as breaking news.

[corban]

I think that is the best spot for him to win (Pittsburgh). And I really would not be pissed as if he went to another division rival... Plus he would reunite with Gill.

So that is my vote...

He resigns with Toronto or goes to the Pens...


Well I would welcome him on the Pens. But they would have to clear some cap space, I think we only have about 2 mill left under the cap, and they usually like to leave some space for the trade deadline. Granted a center is basically the last thing the Pens need, but I have heard the Matts could make a pretty easy transition to the wing plus he would be able to take key faceoffs. So ya I would welcome him for a year or two, but I honestly do not think this will happen. Ahh wishful thinking.....

[shdaow]

Stefan Legein.... retiring?!?!? (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=246953&lid=sublink04&lpos=headlines_main)

At age 19... something serious must be going on, but his father denies that his son is quitting anything.

[bmw]

he'll smarten up once a delicious contract is flashed his way

[bmw]

hahaha the best thing eklund has said in awhile:

"Mats still apparently has NO IDEA what he is doing."

i'll say he meant it in a negative way.

[ruffdog]

Eklund throws shit against the wall hoping something will stick

[bmw]

its unfortunate that his site is still in business

[elementbr10]

Fuck Sundin. All this Sundin talk has gotten tiresome. He's not the second coming of Christ. Fuck him.
Let's turn the talk to somebody important. Like Hal Gill. Maybe we could talk about Henrik Lundqvist, but I think he's supposed to be Elvis. He's the king, right?

[ruffdog]

or we can talk about god

aka Luongo

[OTiS]

or we can talk about god

aka Luongo
and his group of fallen angels aka Canucks.

[bmw]

hal gill talk is the best talk.

[Cornflake]

I miss Gill on the leafs... Why could they not have traded Kubina instead. Not that I hate Kubina but I did like Gill more.

[Fletch]

Gill made me a believer during the playoffs. Man was a fucking beast.

[FrozenBagel]

http://nhl.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p4486632dt.jpg

[doors43]

No self-respecting NYC girl is gonna be a Sabres fan. Please. They're Canadian if you ask me.

[OTiS]

I'd hit it.

[doors43]

So would I.

And I'm being totally serious (if I was gay) because I had a big poster of her in my room when I was about 12 and I dressed like her, wanted to hang out with her and thought she was the coolest fucking girl on the planet. Now she's just hot.

[doors43]

The girl or the guy on her shirt?

Interesting....

I know what you look like. :P

[OTiS]

So would I.

And I'm being totally serious (if I was gay) because I had a big poster of her in my room when I was about 12 and I dressed like her, wanted to hang out with her and thought she was the coolest fucking girl on the planet. Now she's just hot.
Now your just getting me excited.

[doors43]

Now your just getting me excited.

You could picture me with your wife... the things I'd do to her.

That should get you going.

She doesn't read this site, right?

[OTiS]

You could picture me with your wife... the things I'd do to her.

That should get you going.

She doesn't read this site, right?
Jesus Christ! Now I need to clean myself up.

[doors43]

Jesus Christ! Now I need to clean myself up.

That's it huh? You barely got my best stuff out of me. Eh, next time.

[doors43]

I take much longer.

What, I didn't like you enough?

[OTiS]

That's it huh? You barely got my best stuff out of me. Eh, next time.
I'm a scorpio. This means yes it's quick, but yes, I can go again.

[doors43]

No, I just take a long time. Years of fap training has made me tantric.

You misunderstand my sarcasm. I knew what you meant. I liked what I read.

[doors43]

So, were you being sarcastic when you suggested you do naughty things to Mrs. OTiS?

Aw, don't ruin it for him. You never know. His wife looks good in pictures and I'm not a prude, so for his sake, no I was being totally serious.

[OTiS]

So, as my sig says, if there is no hockey...

[OTiS]

Shouldn't that have a spoiler tag?

[wacker]

This thread has taken an interesting turn.

[The Dude]

http://i34.tinypic.com/ta5x7q.gif

[doors43]

Fucking tease. <3 You've seen my wife, would you do her?

pleasesayyes
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I have? I forget what she looks like. But sure, why not... only if you're there too, though.

[OTiS]

Tits or GTFO
http://www.truthordarepics.com/hotgirls/bluemile/images/oilersgirls2.jpg

[doors43]

You best not be talking to me like that.

[FrozenBagel]

No self-respecting NYC girl is gonna be a Sabres fan. Please. They're Canadian if you ask me.

they will when they go to a SUNY school in Buffalo

[wacker]

But I want to see a yellow frog

[doors43]

Who what where?

The TITS or GTFO best not be directed at me is all I'm saying.

[doors43]

Actually, that was for Wacker. Thanks for killing the joke. <3

Listen... I made this thread more interesting than any of you fucks tonight, so I'll kill what I want, you hear?

[OTiS]

Listen... I made this thread more interesting than any of you fucks tonight, so I'll kill what I want, you hear?
Now you're just getting me going again.

[wacker]

Actually, that was for Wacker. Thanks for killing the joke. <3

I should probably shave my chest before I pull the camera out...

[doors43]

Now you're just getting me going again.

Well, your wife can thank me later.

[OTiS]

Well, your wife can thank me later.
If we lived closer...

[doors43]

If we lived closer...

Yeah, we live pretty fucking far apart.


But still... your wife will get the benefit of you getting all hot. Hopefully anyway.

[Titus_Pullo]

James vanRiemsdyk is a douche for going back to New Hampshire for the upcoming season.

[wacker]

James vanRiemsdyk is a douche for going back to New Hampshire for the upcoming season.

Hey now!!! That sounds like hockey talk

[FrozenBagel]

I thought this was the National Horny League thread!!

[ruffdog]

the hockey season can't start soon enough

you're all talking nonsense

[doors43]

I thought this was the National Horny League thread!!

oh dear god.

i'm going to bed.

[wacker]

James vanRiemsdyk is a douche for going back to New Hampshire for the upcoming season.

A lot of prospects have benefited from staying in college for another season and he is only 19

[Titus_Pullo]

But he could learn so much from Mats Sundin.

[bmw]

fuck sundin right now.

[doors43]

Is Shanny retiring?

[Cornflake]

Is Shanny retiring?

Last year he had 46 points and a minus 2. Not bad numbers.

I thought I read somewhere though that he wanted to play one more season. It does seem that the NHL is going through a youth movement right now though, so will have to see...

[ruffdog]

he said that he wants to play 1 more year and only for the Rags

[doors43]

I know he said he'd like to stay in NY, but did he really say he'd ONLY stay in NY? I actually heard he may go back to NJ, but I think they're done honestly.

Oh, and happy belated birthday Robbie Rotten.

[ruffdog]

slut

[doors43]

Yeah, you're welcome.

[ruffdog]

Devils waive Vishnevski
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=247260&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_nhl

[swss]

man....I can't take it, August is just dragging on....

[Cornflake]

Soon enough it will be done... Then the leafs should have answers, where will their former captain go... What will we get for Mccabe...

I am still surprised they did not move Kubina. He did have 40 points and was a +5, so really not that bad I guess...

I also wonder if Simon Gamache get more time with the team... He was not that bad...

[shdaow]

Well, we couldn't totally dismantle our blueline. Kubina and Kaberle play together a lot internationally, and they seem to be very effective as a pairing, so now that McCabe is out of the picture, they can make that a full time pairing which makes me very happy.

The question is, who gets Captaincy now? As much as I love TK, he doesn't seem like the captain type. Sundin is as good as gone. Stajan, IMO is too young and inconsistent. Same goes for Steen. Looking by age, it seems it would fall on Kubina, Kaberle, Mayers, Antropov, Hagman and Jason Blake, but I'd only feel comfortable with Kubina or Kaberle out of that lot being Captain. I'm guessing we're waiting for Jason Blake to get hot again to trade him, as his value is nearly zero with his sickness and lack of production. Tis a shame we couldn't name Vezina Toskala our Captain.

[Cornflake]

I am betting it will be Blake or Kaberle as captain.

Just a thought... I think Mark Bell was to do some Jail time this summer... Is he going to be available for the start of the season???

[shdaow]

I read an article in TSN about him, I think he's already served it. I hope he bounces back with a strong year this season.