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[ruffdog]

General Tennis Discussion.

[ruffdog]

US OPEN

so Federer rolls into the 4th round.

Roddick almost killing a guy with his serve.

Marin Cilic vs Novak Djokovic = mass riot (Croatia vs Serbia)

Nadal into the 4th round aswell

[Fuh Q]

Im thinking another Rafa Roger final. Ive been critical of Roger all this year but I think he is getting back to something like his best.
Fed lost in the final of the French and Wimbledon, he'll be extra determined not to let Nadal take his US Open crown.

The brits are sucking Murrays dick again, as if he will ever win a grand slam. Tim Henman was a peoples champion, he was never close to winning a slam but he was a great guy and I got behind him every time. Murray is just a cock.

[ruffdog]

Djokovic vs Roddick is gonna be sick

[Datači]

Come on Andy!

[ruffdog]

bastard!

[Datači]

We can still make sweet sweet love.

[ruffdog]

Djokovic won!

Federer vs Djokovic next!

[STDSkillz]

I thought Djokovic was hurt? He handled Roddick just fine.

[ruffdog]

close game. Djokovic tweaked his ankle twice and his back hurt aswell.

[Superhuman]

What a choke job by Roddick. Up 5-3 in the set and 30-0 on your serve and you lose the set and match?

Uggghhhh.

[smahoo]

Don't be suprised if Djokovic dispatches Federer, although I would love to see another Rafa v. Roger final with Roger prevailing. I just don't think I can stand another shot of Nadal chewing on a trophy. How gay is that??

[ruffdog]

Jankovic makes it to the final

[Fuh Q]

Don't be suprised if Djokovic dispatches Federer, although I would love to see another Rafa v. Roger final with Roger prevailing. I just don't think I can stand another shot of Nadal chewing on a trophy. How gay is that??

QFT

And dont worry, Djokovic has cancer, two broken ankles, pneumonia, and encephalitis. Federer will beat him no doubt.

But seriously, why is Djokovic playing the "I'm scared I'm gonna lose so I'll make up/exaggerate injuries" card? He's world no. 3, he ought to have faith in his abilities.

[steverino]

I was at the match last night and Djokovic got BOOED like crazy in the post game interview. I am wondering if that came through on tv.

[bpb]

ESPN made sure it did.

[Superhuman]

Why was he getting booed? I turned off the TV in disgust the second the match was over.

[Superhuman]

Buh bye Djokovic.

Nadal looks to be in trouble, too.

[Hulud]

finish him off ffs

[ruffdog]

Federer was just too dominant.
nice run for Djokovic

[Superhuman]

God fucking damnit, now I'm gonna miss the final because of the goddamn rain delay. I have class Monday afternoon. Obviously I'm gonna record it on my DVR, but it's gonna be hard to avoid knowing the score during class.

[Superhuman]

Nice to see Murray finish off Nadal. Looked like he was gonna choke the 4th set away, but he pulled it out.

[cAsE sEnSiTiVe]

Yup....good to see Nadal out

[Hobnail_Boot]

Not good. Now Roger will walk away with an easy Open championship. I would have at least DVR'd the final if it included Rafa & Roger.

[ruffdog]

Federer is 0-2 against Murray

[SrJuanBimba]

Nadal vs Federer (The Revenge) would ave been amazing to watch!:mad:

[Fletch]

I want to sex Jankovic.

[ruffdog]

I want to sex Ivanovic

[smahoo]

today's final should be a great match but Roger rules the hardcourts...Federer in 4

[ruffdog]

Federer in 3

[STDSkillz]

Federer in 3

Nicely done, Ruffy. Wasn't even a match.

[ruffdog]

wut!

[TheImpossibleMan]

Oh I'm sorry, were you using those hopes and dreams? Sorry I stepped on them and crushed them.

*weeps*

[Fuh Q]

Haha, someone should make one of those card crusher pics with Roger, Murray, and the US Open trophy

[ruffdog]

dont fuck with Djokovic
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7846586.stm

[Smuckers]

Im enjoying the australian open alot.

[dick_darlington]

im hoping djokovic wins, but if he doesnt, i will settle for roddick losing.

[The GWD]

You must settle quite a lot then.

[dick_darlington]

You must settle quite a lot then.
not really, i just hate andy roddick, and the odds of him winning another grand slam are very small.

[The GWD]

Why hate Andy? It's not like he's been a powerhouse lately anyways, and he's always seemed like a stand up fella.

[Stax]

No

http://www.yowazzup.com/blog/images/maria-sharapova.jpg

= Fail

[dick_darlington]

Why hate Andy? It's not like he's been a powerhouse lately anyways, and he's always seemed like a stand up fella.
i always thought he was a punkass and thought his shit didn't stink. i could be wrong.

i did hear that he and jimmy connors split up and is now coached by his brother? this could end up ugly.

i guess another reason to hate andy roddick is that he boned mandy moore.

[Fuh Q]

Jesus Christ, Federer just handed out the most unbelievable caning to Juan Martin del Potro. I mean seriously, I know Federer is arguably the greatest all rounder ever but JMDP should just go ahead and retire.
There was that thread in the news section about the coach being fired because his team won 100-0 in bball, Fed should be fined for making an example out of JMDP lol.

Who has everyone got to win the Aus. Open? I really want Fed to beat Nadal in a Fed/Nad final.

[jax]

Nadal vs Federer Australian Open Final on right now. Staying up to watch it. I'm excited, should be good. There Wimbledon was insane last time.

[mongo]

yeah, if you're still up, get on espn. this shit is great so far. it's gonna last all night.

[}{arlequin]

scheduled to end at 6:30 eastern.

might as well make another drink

[mongo]

it's gonna go a lot fucking longer than that. i see tiebreaker #1 in the very near future.

[Jericho]

Reeeally? Am I gonna have to turn this on? How good is it really? 1-10?

[mongo]

nadal is not winning this, federer is losing it. the fuck?

[}{arlequin]

as long as it goes 4 sets i'll be happy

[Jericho]

Kay,I've tuned in and don't know who to root for. Nedal and Federer are both sexy as fuck. Go Roger!?

[Fuh Q]

Fed is fucking up big time, his forehand has deserted him, it doesn't matter anyway cos Nadal likes to hit it to Federer's back hand, which is reliable but unspectacular and has no power behind it. He wont be getting any winners of it. Wtf is up with his first serve as well?! My money was on Fed, but theres something about Fed-Nadal matches that brings out the best in Nadal and the worst in Federer. Nadal in 4.

[Jericho]

okkay, this is must see tv. Fuck Nadal

[Jericho]

Nadal is sweating balls, and making mongo noises. I'm uncomfortable

[Insomniac]

This is probably going to end up better than the Super Bowl.

[Fuh Q]

lmao at Fed's line call at 5-3 in the 4th, I dont think he even expected it to be in. This is an amazing match, every time these guys play its a 5 set epic. They played the best Winbledon final ever, is this the best Australian Open ever?

[Fuh Q]

Federer is tired, its obvious. Fed needs to work on his endurance, its what separates people like Murray and Nadal from him

[Insomniac]

He's a 27-year-old man.

[Fuh Q]

Pathetic Federer, his first serve percentage was 30 something% for most of the match. Finished with a FS% of 52%, who would have thought? I hate Rafa Nadal, I hope he breaks a leg (literally). He's not gonna lose at the French (ever), no one can touch him at Wimbledon, and he has now attained mastery over hard courts so I wouldn't bet against him to win the US Open. Is this the year for a Nadal grand slam?

[jax]

Stayed up and watched it. Good match. Nadal is really coming into this own now and we will hold that number one title for a while. I'm pretty tired though...

[moe_blunts]

Anybody been watching?


Good stuff so far. Can't wait to see the inevitable Nadal/Federer final.

[fuldstændigamok]

I might be partial but Tsonga and Monfils entertain me much more than Nadal.

[mongo]

moe, you're a fucking retard.

http://forum.gorillamask.net/showthread.php?t=5869

[Oiolosse]

It will be interesting to see who Federer will meet in the semis after Djokovic got knocked out by Phillip "Kohli" Kohlschreiber.
I'm amazed how good Andy Roddick is playin on clay now. But will he get to the semis?

I'm hopin' that Murray will make it to the semis and play against Nadal like he did in the US Open semis 08. Maybe he will get some chances.

But ultimately it is Nadal against Federer in the finals. I'm hoping Federer will make it this time.

[Fuh Q]

I dont think Fed will make it this time, he's looking really vulnerable, moreso than usual. Murray-Nadal would be a great match for the semis. I dunno who would win Federers side of the draw if he didn't, Del Potro?

[fuldstændigamok]

I dont think Fed will make it this time, he's looking really vulnerable, moreso than usual. Murray-Nadal would be a great match for the semis. I dunno who would win Federers side of the draw if he didn't, Del Potro?

I might be partial but Tsonga and Monfils entertain me much more than Nadal.
Seriously, both of these guys got an honest chance. If Tsonga can pass Del Potro, he could go all the way.

[Fuh Q]

Ah I cant see him getting past Del Potro, but if he did yeah I agree, he could make it to the final. Roddick, Del Potro, Monfils, Tsonga, Federer, its a free for all. Its good for the sport, I prefer it to just 2 guys dominating

[Fuh Q]

anyone watching Murray v Cilic? Murray is in complete control. I wonder when this guy will win a slam

[cAsE sEnSiTiVe]

I might be partial but Tsonga and Monfils entertain me much more than Nadal.

I'm not surprised. It's well-known you enjoy the dark cock.

It'll be Nadal again. He's just too tough on that surface. When he's healthy, he's that much better than everyone else on clay.

[Fuh Q]

Jesus Christ Soderling with the huugest fuckin balls! The impossible has happened! Fed was a set ahead in the final against Nadal and crumbled, Soderling takes out the best clay court player of all time! I cant believe what I just saw. I bet you Federer is the happiest guy in the world right now

[Fuh Q]

If Federer loses now, he'll probably kill himself because this is pretty much his only chance to win it. What an amazing day of tennis, both defending champions out in the same day/round (round 4). To think people were talking about Nadal going undefeated his whole career at the French, ha, Soderling says fuck you

[fuldstændigamok]

I'm not surprised. It's well-known you enjoy the dark cock.

It'll be Nadal again. He's just too tough on that surface. When he's healthy, he's that much better than everyone else on clay.

And now you even look more stupid than ever, if that is possible. Moron.

[fuldstændigamok]

If Federer loses now, he'll probably kill himself because this is pretty much his only chance to win it. What an amazing day of tennis, both defending champions out in the same day/round (round 4). To think people were talking about Nadal going undefeated his whole career at the French, ha, Soderling says fuck you

I'll keep repeating myself, but I have this gut feeling that the French will go to a Frenchy this year. It's about fucking time.

[Fuh Q]

I'll keep repeating myself, but I have this gut feeling that the French will go to a Frenchy this year. It's about fucking time.

I know, you said that before, but I think this result changes everything. You dont think Fed is going to step it up like 10 levels now that Nadal is gone and for once he actually has a chance to win this thing, to tie the record, for a career grand slam?

Even if he does win, it will be a hollow victory, because he didnt defeat Nadal en route , but I doubt he cares.

From a free for all, its gone to Fed-Murray for me, Fed to get the title. Id put all my rep and gmf dollars on it if I could

[fuldstændigamok]

It's far from being done, trust me. And as much as I would love to see Roger win it, there are still a serious bunch of guys who can do it. Besides, Federer won't be the only one galvanised by Raf's loss, they all will. Everybody now, will think that it's the year or never, and Del Potro, Verdasco, Monfils, Murray, Tsonga or even Robredo will go like madmen for it.
And I did put Murray on that list only because he is on the right side of the bracket, otherwise, he doesn't stand a chance in Paris. Not yet.

[Oiolosse]

I still can't quite believe it that Nadal is out. Only now I begin to realize what this means.
I'm eager to see Roger's reaction on the court against Tommy Haas today. He has to win this now or maybe he never will.
I say: Go Roger! ;)

[fuldstændigamok]

I say: Go Roger! ;)

2 sets down to Haas...weirdest RG ever so far.

[smahoo]

Federer has won the 3rd and 4th sets, 4 and love and is up 4-2 in the 5th....great comeback

[Trident]

Murray - Federer final? I like it.

[Evil]

God yesterday sucked.

Lets hope the frogs cant win their own open!

Go Federer now!

[smahoo]

Federer closes the match 6-2 in the 5th...

A Murray v. Federer final would be the best the tournament could hope for with Rafa out.

[Fuh Q]

It was inevitable he would win. Haas looked tired come the last set, and Fed hit his stride. Of the 4th round matches left to be played, Monfils-Roddick looks the most interesting to me. A Rod is really in form, but so is Monfils, and he's french so he'll have the crowd behind him, tough to call, though Ill go with Monfils in 4.

[Evil]

I think I speak for all the non French speakers here: Goooooooooo Andy!

[Evil]

I havent watched any of the yanks play yet, are the French crowd still giving them a hard time?

[fuldstændigamok]

I havent watched any of the yanks play yet, are the French crowd still giving them a hard time?

They obviously will be behind Monfils, but French people like Rodick in general, he's always a fair player and besides he's the most French of all the americunts on the circuit.

[Evil]

The Paris crowd are dicks.

Why would anyone cheer on Soderling over Nadal? He has to be the most unlikeable person on the tour. If there was a single player I wouldn't have wanted Nadal to lose to ever it would be him. Followed by Del Potro.

[fuldstændigamok]

Yeah because spanish crowds are so slick. A model admired by all of Europe, whatever the sport they are attending...

[Oiolosse]

So, first semi is complete: Robin Söderling vs. Fernando Gonzalez
Who is gonna win? Nikolaj Dawydenko didn't have a chance against Söderling. But Fernando Gonzalez finished off Murray in four.
My guess for the 2nd semi: Del Potro vs. Roger (Go Roger!! :D)

[Fuh Q]

I think soderling gets to the final personally, really underrated, his ranking has never reflected his ability, he should be top 15 for sure

[Oiolosse]

Yeah but you have to play very good for a long time to reach the top 20. Till now Soederling was'nt able to do that.
I'm expecting a tough fight between Roger and Del Potro. They both served excellent today.

[Fuh Q]

I agree about it being tough to call. I really want Roger to win it but I think Del Potro might have too much, we shall see. I was positive Murray would get to the final but he was beaten soundly, just goes to show you can never be too sure in tennis.

[Evil]

I'll keep repeating myself, but I have this gut feeling that the French will go to a Frenchy this year. It's about fucking time.

http://i44.tinypic.com/52hz7l.jpg

[Evil]

The thought of a Soderling - Del Potro final is making my stomach turn. I really don't think there are two players I dislike more at the moment.

God I hope Roger turns this around.

[smahoo]

if he is, he better get it going...

Del Potro is up 2 sets to 1 and Roger is looking vulnerable

[mongo]

uh, it's 3-1 federer in the 4th, so in about 20 minutes it'll be 2-2.

[smahoo]

roger up a break in the 5th at 2-1....

[CrazyCarl]

yay Federer. Too bad it wasn't on TV here and I had to watch it online

[Fuh Q]

jesus christ federer is actually gonna give me a heart attack, every time he looks like he hasnt got a hope he digs deep and comes back. Del Potro played his ass off today, no one can say he gifted it to federer, but damn, when history beckons, there is no stopping that man. Or is there? Rafa was going to make history by winning 5 frenchs in a row, but he was stopped, by the most unlikely of people Soderling. Now Roger plans to make history by winning 14 majors including all 4 individual majors, which has never been done before, wouldn't it be a cruel but typical twist of fate if this unknown (outside tennis circles anyway) unheralded lowly Swede pisses in the face of history again?

[Fuh Q]

and also, just because its probably not deep enough to have its own thread, if Roger wins the French, is he the greatest of all time? Is he the greatest of all time already? Yes Sampras may have 1 more major, but I dont remember Sampras getting to the final of the french even once (correct me if im wrong), let alone 3 times consecutively, does he already have a case? If the answer to both is no, what would it take for you personally to consider him as the greatest?

[smahoo]

the career grand slam has been accomplished by many, Emerson, Laver (twice as calendar grand slams), Agassi and more...

Roger certainly is one of the best, but the greatest, maybe, not sure

[Fuh Q]

the career grand slam has been accomplished by many, Emerson, Laver (twice as calendar grand slams), Agassi and more...

Roger certainly is one of the best, but the greatest, maybe, not sure

many? thats a bit of a stretch, only 6 people have done it.


And none of them have 14 majors either.

[CrazyCarl]

6 is many more than 0

[Fuh Q]

6 is many more than 0


Lol ok, in around 40 years of open era tennis, only 6 people have completed the grand slam. And this isnt 6 out of 7 people, its 6 out of the thousands of players who have played at the majors over the years. Your argument is like saying a man with a hundred pounds has much money because a hundred is bigger than 0, but in real terms, when you take everything into consideration, it isnt much at all.

However, I respect your opinion.

[CrazyCarl]

how many total Grand Slam winners have their been? 40 years means 160 possible winners (so we're already down to 160 from 1000's), minus repeat winners and winners of different slams and the set grows smaller.

[Evil]

Federer > Sampras.

[fuldstændigamok]

Federer already is on the top 4/5 best player of all time, hell maybe more like joint first, but if he finally win the French (even though Rafa won't be there to stop him), he will be the best ever so far. He'll equal Sampras at 14 grand slam, but by winning them all, he will do him one over ( and even if he lose, he can at least claim 4 French final in a row, or 20 grand slam semi in a row, I will repeat that and bold it, because for fuck sake that's 20 GRAND SLAM SEMI FINALS IN A ROW!!!!!), so yeah, Roger is the best so far, but Nadal is still very, very young and has everything it takes to become the bestest.

[Da Raider]

A Federer win in the French Final puts him on the short list for GOAT.

[Evil]

I'm a Rafa fan. But I Really want Roger to win this years french open.

I want Roger to win this year, and for him at some point to beat Sampras record. I think he deserves to win all 4 GS's and he is a better player than Pete. And I think Rafa has a good chance of doing this year also ( US open is all he needs).

[Oiolosse]

Let's hope Roger win this time. He totally deserves it. Especially after being so patient against Del Potro who played and served outstanding. But Roger fighted and waited till Del Potro finally lost something of his first serve speed.
For me he is the greatest Tennis player of all time.

[fuldstændigamok]

Federer is on the fast way to history.

[Fuh Q]

All going according to plan for Fed, I guess it was a bit of a tall order to ask Soderling to knock out the number 1 and the second seed.

[fuldstændigamok]

Longest minute in federer's life, this one. Serving for glory.

[fuldstændigamok]

Ouh the nerves...

[}{arlequin]

good match.

[Fuh Q]

Haha told you Fed would win, it was a great game, but after the second set tiebreak the match was over for me. Won't go down as a classic final, and the cynics will put an asterisk next to his name because he didnt beat Nadal, but I doubt Fed will care and it doesnt really matter. Well done Roger! He could retire now and still be considered by some as a great. I have a feeling Nadal will break his record though :s, 6 slams at 22, he's gonna win more slams than he loses thats for sure.

[Evil]

Well a few year ago I thought Federer was gonna thrash Sampras record easily. Its not beaten yet, and not been easy.

There is always another hungry young kid around the corner.

I think Nadal will win all 4, but I have my doubts he is going to get 14 or more. And Rafa is 23. He had one really good mid 2008 to just about a month ago, can he keep it up though?

[Fuh Q]

Lets be honest, no disrespect to Soderling but his win against Rafa was an anomally. Assuming Rafa has 8 years left in him (31), Id expect him to win the French at least 4 more times, and thats being conservative, he is by all accounts the greatest clay courter of all time. His game on hard courts is pretty damn good, he's the best player in the world and once Fed retires, who is going to fulfill the mantle of his nemesis? of the 16 hard court slams that leaves him, Id expect him to win around 5 (an average of less than 1 hardcourt slam a year is not unrealistic I think). Not to mention his pedigree at Wimbledon means he'll probably win there at least once more in his career. Taking these conservative estimates, thats another 10 slams, comfortably beating the record. This relies on him being healthy though, he needs to make sure his knees dont ruin his career.

[Oiolosse]

Nadal canceled Queens because of his knees and there is a rumor going around that he may cancel Wimbledon, too.
I hope he is playin Wimbledon and ends up playin Roger in the final again. They are still the best players and in the circuit and I love their encounters.
But I think (and hope) that Roger will be tough to beat now.
After finally winning the french open (yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaah ! ;)), Roger got surely a boost of self confidence.

[Evil]

He's needed an op on his kneee for like 18 months, and keeps putting it off, obviously its something that is worrying him

[fuldstændigamok]

The problem with rafa is that his game is based enterily on the physical side, without it he is not as talented as Federer, when he's on top form though he is simply unbeatable, but can he sustain that physical level for years, I have doubts about it. One thing he will always have though is that freakish mental of his, and on that alone, I won't put Federer as the greatest ever. He is the greatest so far, but until Rafa retires, he will be a major contender.
That being said, Federer is also far from being done, and now that he got his milestone after some months of doubt, I'm pretty sure that he will go on stronger as ever. I'm ready to put some money on him finishing this year with 3 grand slam under his belt, and I see him winning the US open some more times, plus a couple of Wimbledon and probably 1 or 2 Australian. Achieving a career 20 grand slam is way in his range.

[Fuh Q]

The problem with rafa is that his game is based enterily on the physical side, without it he is not as talented as Federer, when he's on top form though he is simply unbeatable, but can he sustain that physical level for years, I have doubts about it. One thing he will always have though is that freakish mental of his, and on that alone, I won't put Federer as the greatest ever. He is the greatest so far, but until Rafa retires, he will be a major contender.
That being said, Federer is also far from being done, and now that he got his milestone after some months of doubt, I'm pretty sure that he will go on stronger as ever. I'm ready to put some money on him finishing this year with 3 grand slam under his belt, and I see him winning the US open some more times, plus a couple of Wimbledon and probably 1 or 2 Australian. Achieving a career 20 grand slam is way in his range.

You said you were ready to put money on it, how about your $gmf? Im a huge Fed fan but there is absolutely no way I can see Roger winning 3 majors this year. I personally bet you all of your gmf dollars that he will not win 3 majors this year.

You can have whatever if you win.

Haha I love the Searching For Eric quote btw, I really need to see that film...

[fuldstændigamok]

Eleventybillion $GMF and your girlfriend. There, we have a bet.

And yeah, I can't wait to see that movie as well.

[Fuh Q]

deal. Its in my sig so we won't forget. Roll on Wimbledon!

[heelsguy]

federer is amazing, but sampras is the best male tennis player I have ever seen play. next is federer, then borg

[jemeske]

I'm willing to say Federer is better than Sampras and perhaps the best of all time. Roger has a far more complete game and would have easily bested Pete's mark by now if not for running into maybe the greatest clay courter ever. Even with a rival like Nadal for the second half of his run he has still matched Sampras and should win a couple more before retiring. Sampras never had a rival of Nadal's level. I love me some Andre, but he essentially wasted the early part of his career before doing the exact opposite to close it out. Michael Chang? No. Jim Courier? No. Yevgeny? No.

At his peak, he was simply amazing to watch on the court. So easy.

[heelsguy]

I disagree. sampras beat all comers, and would have stepped up there had been a rival had been around. he played as well as he had to.

[heelsguy]

I'm willing to say Federer is better than Sampras and perhaps the best of all time. Roger has a far more complete game and would have easily bested Pete's mark by now if not for running into maybe the greatest clay courter ever. Even with a rival like Nadal for the second half of his run he has still matched Sampras and should win a couple more before retiring. Sampras never had a rival of Nadal's level. I love me some Andre, but he essentially wasted the early part of his career before doing the exact opposite to close it out. Michael Chang? No. Jim Courier? No. Yevgeny? No.

At his peak, he was simply amazing to watch on the court. So easy.


who?

[fuldstændigamok]

I disagree. sampras beat all comers, and would have stepped up there had been a rival had been around. he played as well as he had to.

Except for the fact that he has never been able to play on clay or that it took him 12 years to win 14 slams. Federer only needed 6. And Sampras never had a Nadal in front of him. Sampras only made 1 semi in Paris, Federer reached the final 4 straight years. 19 slams finals out of 24 possibles, 20 straight appearances in semi-finals!!!! These stats are simply crazy.

[jemeske]

who?
Roger.
Except for the fact that he has never been able to play on clay or that it took him 12 years to win 14 slams. Federer only needed 6. And Sampras never had a Nadal in front of him. Sampras only made 1 semi in Paris, Federer reached the final 4 straight years. 19 slams finals out of 24 possibles, 20 straight appearances in semi-finals!!!! These stats are simply crazy.
Exactly. Other than the fact that Federer hasn't been able to beat Nadal at Roland Garros, he has been absolutely dominate across all surfaces in a way that Sampras never was.

What makes you say Sampras was better? I think Roger will end up with more slams, have done it against tougher competition, and have a greater depth beyond that (consecutive finals, semis in slams).

[CrazyCarl]

Nadal out of Wimbledon (http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=4272537)

[fuldstændigamok]

15th in the bag?

[Evil]

Well there goes Pete's record completely.

[Oiolosse]

15th in the bag?
I hope so ;)

But it's a long way to go. I can't wait to see it.

Here is the draw: http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/scores/draws/ms/index.html

Upper half with Del Potro, Murray, Roddick, Gonzalez, Hewitt and Wawrinka.
The second half with Roger, Djokovic, Cilic, Blake, Verdasco, Tsonga and Soderling.

We are looking on a Del Potro vs. Hewitt in the second round.
If I'm reading the draw well, we have a possible quarter final Del Potro vs. Roddick and Murray vs. Gonzalez.
Del Potro vs. Murray in the semis?

Possible quarter final in the second half is Djokovic vs Cilic or Blake and Roger or Soderling vs. Verdasco or Tsonga.

[Evil]

None of those guys are going to beat Roger over 5 sets.

[jemeske]

Obviously, he's better on grass, but Roger wasn't that great in Paris. He was taken to five sets three times, I believe. This isn't in the bag.

[Oiolosse]

None of those guys are going to beat Roger over 5 sets.
Agreed :)
Obviously, he's better on grass, but Roger wasn't that great in Paris. He was taken to five sets three times, I believe. This isn't in the bag.
He wasn't great in Paris? Did you see those matches against Haas and Del Potro where he played 5 sets? Roger played his best clay court tennis there and he was taken to 5 sets because Haas and Del Potro did great.
This isn't in the bag, but it's all for Roger. If he can play like he did in Paris nobody can stop him. And yeah he's better on grass :D

[fuldstændigamok]

NO. Actually he played his worst RG of the last 5 years. What makes it interesting is that he won it anyway. He has new weapons in his game (like the chip) that hurted people in RG and that will hurt people in Wimbledon as well. He also has a better mental now. He was so used to win every single games for so long that when Nadal, Djoco and Murray started to win against him, he didn't know how to cope about it for a while, but I think that that have changed and he is now much more confident, not forgetting that by finally winning RG and equallinq Sampras record, he has a huge burden taken out of his shoulder. He now plays for himself again, with pleasure and he never is better than when it's like that.

[Oiolosse]

Worst? He didn't play so good last year though he got to the final easier. Maybe his best performance in paris was 2007. But he definitely changed his game on clay court which served him well this year. That's why I think his overall clay court performance was the best.
And I agree with you. He will bring this new style to Wimbledon, too.

[Evil]

The only guy that can beat him over 5 sets is not in it.

When was the last time he lost to someone over 5 sets other then nadal? Aus 2008?

[Oiolosse]

Yeah at the Australian Open 2008 in the semis against Djokovic. But he was sick at that time and didn't knew it. A disease which prevents most people to get out of the bed and Roger played Tennis with the best 4 of the world.

[mongo]

get off his dick already.

[Fuh Q]

Roger will not win Wimbledon. His tennis at the French really wasn't that great, in fact it was probably his worst showing at that tourny, even though he won it. The only thing that sets him apart is his desire to win, his tennis is no longer leaps and bounds better than anyone elses as it was a few years ago. He wont be able to keep this up for much longer. Maybe he'll stumble towards the semis and then fall.

[fuldstændigamok]

Shut up and get your gf ready.

[Evil]

you people think bums like del potro, roddick, murray or chokovich have a chance?

[Fuh Q]

Shut up and get your gf ready.

She's staying with me! I hope :s

And to Evil, Chokovich no, Murray, Roddick and JMDP, yes. Murray is pretty good on grass, Roddick only went out of Queens on a freak injury, he was looking pretty good. A lot of the top 10 dont really shine at Wimbledon, people like Verdasco, or Gonzalez, but there are a few dark horses outside the top 10 who could really challenge for the crown. I read an article where the legends gave their predos for wimbledon and most of them picked Roger citing his history and "lack of pressure" after winning RG. Can someone please give me some concrete reasons why Roger's tennis will win him Wimbledon instead of this intangible crap like like his spirit?

I haven't told my gf I bet our relationship on an arbitrary sports bet yet, now there's a conversation destined for fireworks...

[rje8686]

murray has a good shot at this. I still think fed will win 4/5 times. but murray will be in with his best chance this yr!

[smahoo]

sharapova exits in round 2, losing 6-4 in the 3rd...no more screams from her

[Oiolosse]

JMDP is two sets down (0-2) against Lleyton Hewitt :eek:

Del Potro has problems with his 1st serve. Hewitts 1st serve percentage is only a little better but when the 1st serve is in he makes the point with almost a 100% certainty.

JMDP has a bandage under his right knee. But it doesn't look he's badly injured. Hewitt is fighting really hard and plays well.

Del Potro just losed his first service game in set 3 with a double fault.
On second thought maybe something is wrong with JMDP.

edit:
Hewitt did it. Final score 6:3 7:5 7:5 for Hewitt. I think Hewitt has a chance now to reach the quarter finals. There he may meet Roddick.

[Evil]

lol. fuck argentina. fucking gypsies

[zaksisi]

Del Potro got 3 setted? wtf why are these top players so inconsistent besides Nadal and the dude with the funny nose.

[Evil]

Cause hes a gigantic freaky aregentinian.

The crowd should have sung him dont cry for me argentina.

[CrazyCarl]

Murray should've intentionally served a fault to make things fair

[CrazyCarl]

5th set! Indoor tennis ftw

[jemeske]

I loved how the only explanation for Murray's shitty first set could have been the roof, at least according to ESPN. They were so eager to talk about the roof, they literally had Pam Shriver reading a pamphlet about it on the air. Awesome.

[fuldstændigamok]

Roddick-Murray in the semi should be awesome (yeah, I call it now, that WILL be the semi). Even if Haas is in super form, Roger will beat him without too much of a problem. Hopefully, Roddick & Murray will beat the shit out of eachother for 5 sets and 5 hours in the semi, letting Roger winning his 15th without breaking a sweat.

[Evil]

Well since Ferrero is now gone

Come on Roger!

[smahoo]

Hewitt just squared his match with Roddick at a set apiece by winning a 2d set tiebreak 12-10

[jemeske]

This Hewitt-Roddick has turned out great. Amazing hold just now from Hewitt.

[smahoo]

Roddick pulls thru 6-4 in the 5th. Hewitt did himself proud in defeat

[Fuh Q]

Breaking news: Safina has just been raped in the most one sided womens semi final ever. She is doing people who argue she is the rightful world no. 1 no favours at all, how can she be the true world no. 1 when the Williams sisters are simply better than her? If they played more events, they would be way ahead of Safina in terms of ranking points, they just don't care about having the official title of world no. 1

[fuldstændigamok]

Safina as n1 is a joke. She has no nerves whatsoever. She's not playing well in general. The Williams are the only interesting women in tennis since Henin anyway, women tennis sucks right now.

[Evil]

I will not be watching the womens final, watching the bear vs the gorilla doesnt appeal to me.

[fuldstændigamok]

Mwarf, Haas giving up and playing semaphore 2 feets away from Roger who missed, funniest point so far.

[Oiolosse]

I saw that too. Even Roger laughed about that error. It was funny when in the first set someone called in I love you, Roger :D
Correct me if I am wrong but I counted 0 break points for Haas at Federer serve. Impressive. Roger's semi final shape is so much better than at the French Open. He seem's so relaxed.

[fuldstændigamok]

Impressive, indeed. Better yet in his 7 Wimbledon semi, he has lost only twice his serve...

[Fuh Q]

Finally, the Murray cock-sucking is over for another year. I mean seriously, he's a good player, but he's not a great player, or Jesus Christ. Every year when Wimbledon starts, its like its open season on Murray's dick in England. I'm glad he lost, I much prefer Roddick.

Given how far Haas pushed Roger at the French, and his performance against Djo, I thought he would actually have a shot at winning today, but he never really got into the match. Roger was too good on serve.

I never thought Roger would even get this far, but I have to admit, my money has to be on him to win now.

Women's final should be quite good, the two best players in the game slugging it out. There's always that extra bit of passion when they play each other, I can't wait.

[Hobnail_Boot]

Holy shit. Andy Roddick stole the 1st set from Roger Federer...

And how many challenges does Federer get? I believe he challenged 4 points in the set and lost them all.

[fuldstændigamok]

A-Rod is basically unplayable on his serve today.

[Hobnail_Boot]

Roddick choked that last point.

Edit: Federer just basically won the tournament by stealing the 2nd set.

[fuldstændigamok]

Fucking.Fantastic.Roger!

[johnnychacski]

Roddick choked that last point.

Edit: Federer just basically won the tournament by stealing the 2nd set.

Am thinking the same thing. Roddick had to take that set.

[fuldstændigamok]

Well. What now?

[Hobnail_Boot]

Epic in the making?

[fuldstændigamok]

This is getting nuts....

[johnnychacski]

My goodness, has Roddick done an amazing job at keeping himself in this match.

[fuldstændigamok]

Bloody magic.

[The Dude]

this shit is ridiculous

[fuldstændigamok]

Rod is taking it. He's gonna do it.

[johnnychacski]

That was a big game he just dropped. That was his for the taking.

[fuldstændigamok]

Ma'ame federer's gonna pop the baby right on wimbledon centre court due to stress.

[The Dude]

this is fucking brilliant from both

[fuldstændigamok]

Yeah, they both played great tennis, but you get the feeling that roddick is unbreakable, not so much roger, not by a lot, but still.

[The Dude]

i agree

[johnnychacski]

I don't know, I feel like Andy had many chances to put Roger away, and never did.

[Stax]

It will never end.

[johnnychacski]

At this point I hope it doesn't.

[fuldstændigamok]

Yeah, they both played great tennis, but you get the feeling that roddick is unbreakable, not so much roger, not by a lot, but still.

Then again with Federer at 2 billion aces, he's not gonna get breaked either....

[Gary_Busey]

This is going to go on forever.

[fuldstændigamok]

Ouch, he looks cooked...

[johnnychacski]

Andy should have put him away sooner, he had the chances and left Roger in the match. Either way it was amazing match, and Andy has nothing to be disappointed in. And congrats to Roger on 15.

[moe_blunts]

30 games in the 5th set...kwazy

[Genius]

I just want Roddick to win, just once. WHY CAN'T HE EVER WIN, DAMMIT, WHY?!?!?!?

[The Dude]

Andy should have put him away sooner, he had the chances and left Roger in the match. Either way it was amazing match, and Andy has nothing to be disappointed in. And congrats to Roger on 15.

sure he does. he lost. saying he doesn't have anything to be disappointed in is the type of thinking that has led to the wussifcation and pussification of america

[The Dude]

now, i don't mean to suggest that he doesn't have a lot to be proud of, but he LOST. he can't close. bottom line he's a bridesmaid.

[johnnychacski]

sure he does. he lost. saying he doesn't have anything to be disappointed in is the type of thinking that has led to the wussifcation and pussification of america

Well jeez, I was bring nice, I hate losing as much as the next guy. But honestly this might have been the greatest match he's ever played. So he should be pissed about it? I get your point, but let the guy take something from this match.

[johnnychacski]

now, i don't mean to suggest that he doesn't have a lot to be proud of, but he LOST. he can't close. bottom line he's a bridesmaid.

Ok, that is all I wanted to her. Haha, but I agree, he's a choke artist.

[Oiolosse]

Roddick choked that last point.

Edit: Federer just basically won the tournament by stealing the 2nd set.
Am thinking the same thing. Roddick had to take that set.
I agree. That it is why he lost and he will not forget that backhand volley for a long time.
Still it looked like Roger didn't play his best tennis, maybe because A-Rod was so great, too.
Congratulations Roger. No 1 again.

[Superhuman]

Federer is god.

[Fuh Q]

I dunno, in the last set, it was all Fed, dont remember how many times Fed took him to deuce on his serve but it was a fair few, whereas Roddick couldn't get anywhere near breaking Fed's serve. He just got tired. It was an amazing contest and I feel really for Roddick because it obviously could have gone either way.

And as for the second set, I'm gonna disagree with everyone else and say even if Fed lost it, I think it still would have gone to 5 sets and Fed still maybe would have won.

edit:
Im also gonna disagree with the legends on the bbc, the only reason he has won these two majors is because Nadal wasn't around. Fed wasn't playing that amazingly today, and Nadal wouldn't have tired in the 5th like Roddick. And even though he lost this year, Nadal is still the king of RG when fit. Once Nadal comes back, he is gonna clean up, I don't believe Roger will get to 18, I dont think he'll even get 17.

[wacker]

Great match, but the lack of intense rallies kept it from being the next step up.

[Oiolosse]

Once Nadal comes back, he is gonna clean up, I don't believe Roger will get to 18, I dont think he'll even get 17.
Sure about that? Roger can have 16 at the US Open. Nadal is probably not coming back this year.

[fuldstændigamok]

sure he does. he lost. saying he doesn't have anything to be disappointed in is the type of thinking that has led to the wussifcation and pussification of america
I can't understand why so many people are so harsh with Roddick. The guy has been a top ten player EVERY year for the last 10 years, only one other player has done so well, guess who? Yeah, HIM. It's not Roddick's fault if he is almost exactly the same age than the greatest player of all time and so is pretty much fucked from the start like every other players (minus Nadal).
I know that it's idiotic to give this kind of argument, but take Federer out of the equation and Roddick will probably have 6/7 slams by now. And unlike many other players, Roddick never gave up and has continually tried to improve. Hell, just for this year, he's probably the MIP of the tour.

[Rover]

Where would we be with no tiebreakers? 80 all in the 2nd set, with play suspended because of darkness!?! Both players' serves were crazy good. Roddick would have needed to play perfectly today to win. He wasted that lead in the tiebreaker and then misplayed a couple shots in the last few games of the 5th set.

But the French and Wimbledon have been the best Roddick's ever looked. I hope he can bring that serve to the US. And Fuld's right. Roddick would have maybe 3 Wimbledon's if he didn't have to play Roger every time. And who knows how many other majors. Roger is just slightly better at the things Roddick does well. Maybe if he could return serve a little better he'd have a better chance at winning more.

[jemeske]

Roddick wouldn't have 6 or 7 slams. He had a good run in summer 04 (I believe), but dropped off somewhat after that. His play this summer is far better than it's been in the past and he's becoming much more of a rounded player. Amazing match.