General Discussion

[The Dude]

All Promotions and Orgs should be discussed here.

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[Poop Sailboat]

I still hate GSP.

[Jericho]

What happened to Gordon Bombay, you fucker?

[Poop Sailboat]

that was the old forum, holmes. now someone clear my posts already.

[The Dude]

I still hate GSP.

WHO WEARS SHORT SHORTS?

[Poop Sailboat]

WHO WEARS SHORT SHORTS?
I think the power comes from them.

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

I have been saying for a year now that no man wearing shorty shorts can be defeated.

[The Dude]

Unless his name is Roger Huerta

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

His shorts aren't short enough to qualify.

[The Dude]

what's with the **** in the CT?

[Jericho]

I can almost see his pecker, though

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

I dunno. I just thought Hebrew was the way to go.

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

After Rich gets the forum done and redoes my Urban Pacification, maybe I'll do some scrolling flashing **** with naked laides that are on mud flaps on each side.

[Kopek]

Brock Lesnar's fights are so boring.

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

I'm praying for that BJ Penn GSP fight. That would be fucking awesome.

[The Dude]

BJ, GSP, Silva Royal Rumble...make it happen Dana...

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

I was talking about this today with a coworker. There is nobody to really contend with the current belt holders, minus in the heavyweight division, which no one really cares about anyway. You can probably say there are a couple contenders in light heavyweight, but right now, the people sitting up top are there for a while.

[The Dude]

i'm not so convinced about the light heavies, in fact i think nog is in a better position than forest, but overall i agree. the ufc doesn't have anyone for bj, gsp, the spider, and i think i'm gonna include big nog too.

there's no one in the wec that can hold the jock of any of the current champs...there are certainly guys that would be top 5 in the division, but not anywhere near the champs (read: carlos condit).

that being said, there are some japanese fighters that i would like to see them bring in and obviously fedor, but unless the ufc changes its payscale, it ain't gonna happen.

[bones12]

Werdum would be a tough test for Big Nog, but outside of him there isn't much for the UFC to offer up. Lesnar was able to overpower Herring, but I just can't see a fight between him and Nog going any other way than the Mir-Lesnar fight.

That said, the Light Heavyweight Division is totally up for grabs everytime there is a title defense. Forrest, Rampage, Liddell, Shogun, Soko, Machida, Wanderlei, and Thiago...I wouldn't be shocked to see any of these guys being the Champion at this time next year.

I'm liking these rumors for a New Years show in Vegas:

UFC NEW YEAR'S: DECEMBER 27, 2008 IN LAS VEGAS
venue: Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada

Welterweight Bout:
-Georges St. Pierre (#1 Welterweight in the World)* vs. B.J. Penn (#1 Lightweight in the World)*

-Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (#2 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Frank Mir
-Wanderlei Silva (#6 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. TBA

That's at least 3 big time fights, because you know there is no way they aren't going to matchup Wanderlei with a stud.

[One Under]

GSP v Penn would be a fantastic fight.

[Hoser]

Is Penn going to fight at his current weight or try and bulk up a bit?

[bones12]

The fight would be at 170, if that's what you mean. As far as Penn physically bulking up, yeah, of course he would. He probably walks around in the 170-175 area right now as is, but he'd obviously add some muscle to his frame for the move up. Keep in mind, Penn has fought as high as 185 and even took on Lyota Machida in an open weight fight.

[Hoser]

Right now he fights at 155, so not only does he need ot keep the weight on, but he needs to gain muscle for that to happen. I know he has some time, but just seems like alot to do.

If he wins will be be the first UFC champ to hold 2 weight classes?

[bones12]

I know people have won titles at multiple weight classes (Couture and Penn), but off the top of my head, I can't think of someone who's held titles at multiple weight classes at the same time for the UFC. Dan Henderson held the Middleweight and LHW titles for Pride when they collapsed.

[Papelgod]

That's at least 3 big time fights, because you know there is no way they aren't going to matchup Wanderlei with a stud.

I wish Rampage had never gone nuts. I would have loved to seen Rampage vs. Wanderlei again.

[Papelgod]

Oh, and this is great news. I've been watching this for weeks on ESPN.com. It's better than Inside MMA (on HDNet), where it's more in-depth than most ESPN shows attributed to a particular sport. Florian and Mir are also very unbiased towards all the other promotions.

"MMA Live," ESPN.com's popular web-only broadband MMA news show, could soon be headed to regular cable television.

Top UFC lightweight contender and "MMA Live" host Kenny Florian said a deal that would put the show on ESPN or ESPN2 is "very, very close" to being finalized.

Florian discussed the show's future while a guest on Monday's edition of TAGG Radio (http://taggradio.com/) (www.taggradio.com) the official radio partner of MMAjunkie.com (http://mmajunkie.com/news/5038/kenny-florian-mma-live-could-soon-be-headed-to-espn.mma) (www.mmajunkie.com).

So when exactly could the deal be done?

"I don't want to let the cat out of the bag, but soon," Florian said. "The next couple of month, we're hoping to get [MMA Live] on ESPN or ESPN 2, and the sponsors are getting on board as we speak, so we should have a deal very, very soon. We're all very pumped."

The 30-minute studio show, which launched in May, is hosted by Jon Anik with Florian, boxing/MMA writer Franklin McNeil and other guest hosts as analysts. With stellar production values, video footage from all the top organizations (including the UFC) and the backing of the sports world's most powerful news oulet, "MMA Live" has garnered a strong following despite being distributed only on the web.

"It's a fun time," said Florian, who awakes at 4 a.m. to tape the show in Bristol, Conn., each Thursday. "The producers are awesome to work with. Everyone over there is cool."

"MMA Live" airs Thursdays at 6 p.m. ET on ESPN.com.

[The Dude]

I like bas, but Inside MMA is more often than not painful to watch

[Papelgod]

The last episode I watched, they had Rob Schneider (who looked stoned out of his mind) on for some reason. It isn't a bad show, because they let you know what's up with other under the radar promotions and fighters, but I don't think I've ever sat down and watched a full episode.

[Roll]

It isn't a bad show, because they let you know what's up with other under the radar promotions and fighters, but I don't think I've ever sat down and watched a full episode.

I wanted to defend the show just now, but then I realized neither have I.


I think Lyoto Machida needs to be given his shot. Dude's won every fight his they've put in front of him his entire career since before 2003. Hand the guy a fuckin belt already for christ's sakes!

[PDiddy]

Brock Lesnar's fights are so boring.

If he could develop any kind of submission game he could be dominant.

[Roll]

Developing ANYTHING besides his wrestling would make him crazy dominant. Somehow the more of his fights and interviews I watch, the less I feel like he's ever going to develop any kind of formidable stand up.

PS - where is your intro? do it. now.

[au'some]

Alverez vs Hansen II... Is anyone interested in seeing this match. That Dream Tourny was really good. I missed Pride style tournys.Sengouku is coming up, Looking forward to that to see if Gomi is still a top lightweight. Nick Diaz vs K.J Noons II should be good alsoin Elite XC down the road. I am not really excited for any UFC matches coming up..Mabey Alves vs Diego will be a good fight.

[son of god]

A prime Mike Tyson with 6 months of sprawl training would be a beast in MMA. Only man who could beat him is Fedor.

[son of god]

Oh and Lyoto Machida is the most boring fighter in history.

Son of God checking in

[au'some]

A prime Mike Tyson with 6 months of sprawl training would be a beast in MMA. Only man who could beat him is Fedor.
Um....no.

[The Dude]

The Orange County District Attorney has charged Rampage with one felony count of evading while driving recklessly, one felony count of evading a peace officer, three misdemeanor counts of hit and run, and one misdemeanor reckless driving.

If convicted he'll face three years in prison.

Now, shock of shocks. He was NOT charged with DUI. And, a few days after the incident, a pregnant woman in the car he hit on the freeway lost her baby, but Rampage was not charged for that after an investigation revealed that the miscarriage was unrelated to the accident.http://www.tmz.com/2008/08/25/rampage-charged-in-insane-chase/

[Poop Sailboat]

tell me they are fucking kidding

http://www.mmaontap.com/mma/entry/report-ken-shamrock-to-fight-kimbo-slice-at-oct-4-elitexc/

Report: Ken Shamrock to Fight Kimbo Slice at Oct 4 EliteXC


Loretta Hunt of Sherdog (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/shamrock-gets-next-shot-at-slice-14185)is reporting that UFC Hall of Famer Ken Shamrock and famed street brawler Kimbo Slice have agreed to a contract to throwdown at the next EliteXC show on CBS, October 4, 2008 at the Bank Atlantic Center in Sunrise, Florida.. This show will be the third of four contracted shows for EliteXC on CBS, but given the ratings from the second show in July, it is believed that EliteXC is really needing to put up big numbers to continue the contract.
Despite Kimbo getting called out after his last fight by undefeated heavyweight Brett Rogers, EliteXC has decided to go the safer route with the matchup against MMA legend Ken Shamrock. The 45 year old Shamrock will enter the fight riding a five fight losing streak. But his name recognition and selling power can not be underestimated.
A relative newcomer to organized Mixed Martial Arts, Kimbo, aka Kevin Ferguson, will take a 3-0 record into the fight against the Lion’s Den founder. Kimbo’s last fight against James Thompson at the first EliteXC on CBS show ended up shrouded in controversy and resulting in a 3rd round TKO for Kimbo. Many felt that the fight should have been stopped in the third round with Thompson dominating Slice on the ground. Then, many felt the fight was stopped prematurely when Kimbo rocked Thompson to start the third round.
An official announcement from EliteXC is expected later today.
Update ( 3:45pm EST) - Jared Shaw of EliteXC has confirmed to 5 Oz of Pain (http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/25/report-shamrock-up-next-for-slice-on-oct-4/) that Ken Shamrock will indeed be the opponent for Kimbo Slice on October 4.


Kimbo is such a fucking joke.

[Papelgod]

It's sad to see Ken reduced to the status that he's sunk to. He's a pioneer of mixed martial arts and now he's going to get destroyed by Kimbo. The losses to Tito and Franklin were pretty devastating for him, and his last fight for Strikeforce was an embarrassment.

[son of god]

Shamrock only gets destroyed if he keeps it on the feet. If he checks his ego and takes the fight to the ground he wins.

[son of god]

Ive been doing BJJ for 8 years and wrestling since I was 10 years old. I am 3-0 in amateur mma fights all three won by rear naked choke.

Brown Belt in BJJ btw.

Anyone else here train

[zaphrodesiac]

AJ will beat the fuck out of you

[son of god]

Who is AJ? I doubt he would last one round against me honestly. Not bragging just being honest.

[The GWD]

It's on.

[Bastard]

Whatever happened to Rampage Jackson? Is he going to prison? If so, I hope he is sent to the same prison as Wesley Snipes, where they can make Undisputed 4.

[chaos2015]

is ken shamrock broke or something???

[Papelgod]

Whatever happened to Rampage Jackson? Is he going to prison? If so, I hope he is sent to the same prison as Wesley Snipes, where they can make Undisputed 4.

I read a verbal agreement vs. Shogun Rua has been made for the December PPV.

[Da Raider]

Who is AJ? I doubt he would last one round against me honestly. Not bragging just being honest.

AJ would break your face off, he's that hardcore. He told me that he wants to challenge you to a no holds barred cagematch in his mom's basement.

PS - I hate Elite XC. Shamrock must be desperate for cash and Kimbo has fought nothing but chumps or way over the hill fighters. This matchup is bullshit.

[Roll]

Baby Jesus. I agree 99% with you.

The only possible hope I can see for Elite XC is to carve a niche as the resident MMA freakshow...They can't compete with the level of UFC fighters, yet Kimbo vs Thompson was fairly successful.. While UFC is getting all the "top" fighters for the MMA fans, Elite XC could theoretically take on all the freakshows that people will undoubtedly still pay for.

But for the most part I"m just playing devil's advocate. I think Ken is going to get his face smashed in. I really hope not. But I really think so.

[Papelgod]

IF this happens, UFC 91 would probably be the biggest PPV of the year. Randy Couture making his return alone is huge, nevermind against the biggest draw in the Heavyweight Division, Brock Lesnar.

The fact that the UFC might be able to get Couture vs. Fedor to finally happen as well is huge. I'm glad that Dana is recognizing that Affliction has potential to be a major threat, and is finally trying to work things out with Randy.

Rumors regarding UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture's (16-8 MMA, 8-5 UFC) possible return to the UFC, first reported by MMAjunkie.com (http://mmajunkie.com/news/5158/sources-randy-couture-willing-to-fight-in-the-ufc-once-more.mma)(www.mmajunkie.com), are continuing to build momentum.

Five Ounces of Pain (http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/30/report-couture-could-return-to-the-ufc-with-first-fight-back-vs-lesnar-in-november/#more-5928) recently reported that preliminary negotiations would have Couture return for UFC 91 on Nov. 15 in Portland, Ore.

New reports from BloodyElbow.com (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/8/29/603880/randy-couture-update#comments) confirm the previously reported negotiations between Couture and the UFC. Additionally, the reports claim that Couture's next fight would be the UFC 91 main event against Brock Lesnar (2-1 MMA, 1-1 UFC).

It is unknown at this time whether the bout would be for Couture's UFC heavyweight title.

Couture has been inactive for over a year while waiting out the Oct. 11 end of his current UFC contract. BloodyElbow.com is reporting the bout with Lesnar would be under a new contract that would lock Couture into the UFC long-term, but the new deal would also likely pay more and offer additional benefits.

MMA Rated (http://mmarated.com/blogs/blog/20080829/randy_couture_on_the_verge_of_ufc_return-613.html) has also reported that the UFC is considering a departure from recent policy and may be open to co-promoting a bout with M-1 Global between Couture and WAMMA heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko (28-1). M-1 Global currently holds Emelianenko's contract.

The UFC previously tried and failed to secure Emelianenko's services. It is unclear if the issues that previously prevented the bout between Couture and Emelianenko have now been solved.

Additional reports from the Wrestling Observer report that Couture's new deal would be for three fights. In addition to Lesnar and Emelianenko, possible future opponents discussed with Couture include UFC interim heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and a fourth bout with former UFC light-heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell.

MMAjunkie.com was unable to confirm the multiple reports with Couture.

[The Dude]

we should know at 3:00PM EST today...

[mutazx]

we should know at 3:00PM EST today...

Now we know :) Randy/Brock in Vegas November 15th. 1,000,000 PPV buys could be a very real possibility!

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

Gayest match ever.

[The Dude]

as dana said, it's basically a 4-way mini HW tournament with the guys who are probably the four best hw besides fedor (well, who knows with lesner right now). and then the other rumor is that there will be a co promote with fedor at some point

[mutazx]

Don't say Fedor around Brock... He reacts badly.

[Poop Sailboat]

wow, i don't know what to say.


I like Lesnar but giving him a title shot this early? Fucking bullshit.

[The Dude]

right, but then the winner of mir vs. nog fights the winner of couture vs. lesnar to unify the titles

[Poop Sailboat]

meh, i'm still not a fan of it.

[The Dude]

yeah, they don't really have a choice though...the contract for nog-mir has already been signed and their doing season 8 of tuf, so it's really the only logical thing they can do.

[NotAllBlack]

One wonder what the weight hieght difference in the fight will be? Lesnar should train with Cotoure for a few fights instead of fighting him.

[Bill]

One wonder what the weight hieght difference in the fight will be? Lesnar should train with Cotoure for a few fights instead of fighting him.

Well Randy comes in on paper at 224 for most of his HW fights...Brock cuts to make 265 so im gonna say there will probably be around a 60 pound weight difference come fight time.

[Roll]

Its too bad that this is what it takes to get the Heavyweight division exciting. So much for Mir vs Nogueira.. that fight is meaningless if Brock wins.

But hell I'd be lying if I said this fight didn't make me a little giddy myself. I don't think Brock can win... well I guess I should just say I HOPE he doesn't win. What a disaster for Randy that would be, and Dana would be laughing all the way to the bank.

[Kopek]

SPOILER:

Rashad Evans just ended Liddell's career.

[traup02]

all i can say is wow, now thats a knock out

[Hanover Fist]

Just got back from watching the PPV at a friends house, holy fuck that was a finish. Brutal.
Overall a meh card. The Franklin fight was about the best one of the night I think.
I agree with Kopek about Chuck, he has to call it quits after that. He seemed a hair slow the whole fight and he probably came within an inch of having some serious brain damage.

[ShitBreak]

All my friends that were over for the fight were being so fucking racist towards Evans, and were huge Liddell marks. I kept telling them Evans was gonna win...

They were pissed the rest of the night.

[Poop Sailboat]

i just saw the knockout, that was fuckin' brutal.

[Jericho]

gif?

[Poop Sailboat]

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im sure this will be taken down soon

[Jericho]

Dammmmmmmn

[Alcestis]

The sourse is tmz.com (http://www.tmz.com/2008/09/08/ufc-fighter-missing-body-found/#comments) so there's run for major 'media error'.

TMZ has learned former UFC middleweight champion Evan Tanner is missing in the California desert. And we're told a body has been found in the area where rescue workers were searching.

Law enforcement tells us the 38-year-old went out into the desert near San Diego last Friday. That same day, Tanner sent a text message to a friend that he was out of water and needed help. There was a massive search that ended abruptly yesterday.

As for the body that was discovered, cops have not yet identified the remains.

Tanner blogged last month he was going to the desert because of his friends talking about "treasure hunting and lost gold, and my own insatiable appetite for adventure and exploration." Tanner continued, "I plan on going so deep into the desert, that any failure of my equipment could cost me my life."

Tanner was featured on Spike TV's, "The Ultimate Fighter." He lost his last bout in June at the Ultimate Fighter 7 finale.

[Jericho]

the fuck?

[ShitBreak]

WTF?

[Poop Sailboat]

OMGWTFBBQ

[Alcestis]

the fuck?

SanDiego.com (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20080908-1732-bn08evan.html)

By Susan Shroder
UNION-TRIBUNE BREAKING NEWS TEAM
5:32 p.m. September 8, 2008

SAN DIEGO – A body was found Monday during an air-and-ground search for missing mixed-martial arts fighter Evan Tanner of Oceanside, whose empty campsite was located Sunday in a rugged Imperial County area.
The body was spotted Monday in the Palo Verde mountain area, about 60 miles northeast of Brawley, by a helicopter pilot from Marine Corps Air Station Yuma who was participating in the search, said Imperial County Sheriff's Lt. George Moreno.

An investigator from the county coroner's office was being flown in to retrieve the body.

“About noon we located a body; as to whether or not it is him (Tanner) hasn't been confirmed,” Moreno said.

A search for Tanner, 37, began Friday after friends who knew he had gone camping alone in Imperial County were concerned about his welfare.

Btw, my son happened to see this and was bouncing off the walls, I noticed we had a MMA thread so I posted the information.

[Poop Sailboat]

this is not looking good.

[Jericho]

Wow, sorry to hear this

[Poop Sailboat]

yeah that sucks, i've always liked tanner.

[Roll]

What a crappy way to go... Long time before we have another character like Evan Tanner.

I share a name with him =(

[Bradhole]

R.I.P.

[Poop Sailboat]

R.I.P.
most definitely. but it seems like he died doing what he liked.

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

This is the death of the greatest single beard known to man.

I was holding out for a Kimbo-Tanner bum fight.

[The Dude]

epic beard

really sad, tanner was a great guy

[Angry Ass Messican Dude]

Modern Day Davy Crockett fo-sho.

[Alcestis]

The stories have been confirmed.

LINK (http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/8541780)

Ultimate Fighting Championship star Evan Tanner has died in the desert east of San Diego, possibly of heat exposure.

Sheriff's Lt. George Moreno says the 37-year-old Tanner was found Monday about two miles from his campsite in a remote area of the Palo Verdes Mountains, where temperatures had reached 110 degrees. Moreno says a preliminary coroner's report suggests Tanner died of heat exposure.


RIP Mr. Tanner

[The Dude]

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[Poop Sailboat]

dana's face is fucking priceless.

[Roll]

it seems like he died doing what he liked.

I didn't know Evan Tanner liked to have heat strokes.

[nuclearjew]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=26646019&blogID=431645649

[Kopek]

Journal entry from Tanner's Spike.com blog that has been deleted:

"It seems some MMA websites have reported on the story, posting up that I might die out in the desert, or that it might be my greatest opponent yet, etc. Come on guys. It's really common down in southern California to go out to the off road recreation areas in the desert about an hour away from LA and San Diego. So my plan is to go out to the desert, do some camping, ride the motorcycle, and shoot some guns. Sounds like a lot of fun to me. A lot of people do it. This isn't a version of "Into the Wild". I'm not going out into the desert with a pair of shorts and a bowie knife, to try to live off the land. I'm going fully geared up, and I'm planning on having some fun."

[Poop Sailboat]

he did say he was listening to eddie vedder.

[Tar Heel]

The New season of The Ultimate Fighter starts tonight. One of my friends from High School made the final 32. His name is Brandon Garner. I guess everyone fights tonight on the show to see if they get into the final 16. He can't tell me if he wins on the show tonight, but after talking to him I think he does. Anyway, it's pretty cool because I know him pretty well. I played soccer with him in Highscool and he went to the same College as well. The guy used to be like 5'4", 105 lbs wet in high school and I always clobbered the people out that messed with him in the soccer field. To see him now is crazy. Dude's a pitbull.

[Tar Heel]

KlnCG80RHGg

Here he is beating up Arman Loktev.

[ShitBreak]

Yeah my middle school-high school buddy Matt Wiman fought in Season 5 (Penn/Pulver). He's was the main influence on me to start watching UFC. Fucking love this shit now.

[Cornflake]

Junie Brown seems to be the most skilled so far... Needs to stop painting his nails though...

[allyourbase]

I agree about Junie. Seems really cocky though. Most times, the cocky ones don't win.

I was surprised about Rashad Evans brother and Clay Guida's brother going home on the first show. I heard them talked about like they were going to be big stars on the show. Oh well.

Also, anyone else heard that Anderson Silva may be retiring next year?

[Cornflake]

That would suck if he did retire. He is a machine.

I dont mind that he is cocky. Just means he needs to grow up a bit. Although I thought that Ed Herman was a bit over the top on how cocky he was in season 3.

[allyourbase]

I agree about Ed. And, from what I've seen, he really hasn't backed it up that much. He's just winning and losing here and there.

Yeah, that's messed up about Silva. I still would love to see a catch weight bout with him and GSP. I still think Silva would dominate though.

What do you think about the Elite XC show with Slice vs Shamrock?

[Cornflake]

Not sure why they keep giving these no names fights they can win... Slice Vs Shamrock, I would prefer Slice Vs Lesnar... That would be a fair and entertaining fight.

I am very disappointed in the UFC in giving Lesnar a title fight after his 3rd fight in the UFC and after one of his fights was a loss... And the way Brock acted in his last fight was terrible... Way too much WWE still left in him.

Elite XC has a chance to be a threat to the UFC. if they were to join forces with Afliction... wow.

Anderson is pound for pound one of the best all round fighters... One punch in his last fight was all it took.. Spilt that dudes face wide open.

[The Dude]

neither elite xc nor affliction are a threat to the ufc

[Cornflake]

The next UFC event in UK has a main event of Michael Bisping Vs. Chris Leben. Probably due to it having to be free over here as it is in the UK and airs in the afternoon.

Another cap thing is like I said before giving Brock a title shot... Who did he beat to get a title shot?

This is the UFC's biggest problem, here is the Payout for UFC 81 Mir Vs Lesnar



Tim Sylvia ($100,000) vs Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira ($200,000)
Frank Mir ($80,000) vs Brock Lesnar ($250,000)
Jeremy Horn ($25,000) vs Nate Marquardt ($52,000)
Rob Yundt ($5,000) vs Ricardo Almeida ($40,000)
Gleison Tibau ($11,000) vs Tyson Griffin ($36,000)
Chris Lytle ($24,000) vs Kyle Bradley ($4,000)
Marvin Eastman ($14,000) vs Terry Martin ($12,000)
David Heath ($6,000) vs Tim Boetsch ($12,000)
Keita Nakamura ($5,000) vs Rob Emerson ($16,000)

Total disclosed payroll for UFC 81 was $892,000.

Dana is clearly banking on Brock... Maybe to try and use his WWE mic skills and get Fedor to the UFC. Call out Fedor.

[The Dude]

you make no sense



lol:

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[Cornflake]

ok well I know when to say I was wrong on payouts affecting UfC and I was wrong... I just found the payouts for the Elite XC. They were as follows...

Kevin “Kimbo Slice” Ferguson - $175,000 ($125,000 to show, $50,000 to win)
David “Tank” Abbott - $126,000
Kimbo defeated Tank by KO (punch) 43 seconds into the first round

Antonio Silva - $80,000
Ricco Rodriguez - $20,000
Silva defeated Ricco by split decision

Scott Smith - $12,000
Kyle Noke - $3,000
Smith defeated Noke by KO (punch) 7 seconds into round 2

Yves Edwards - $6,000
Edson Berto - $6,000
Yves defeated Berto by KO (knee) with 4 seconds left in round 1

Brett Rogers - $4,000
James Thompson - $25,000
Brett Rogers defeated Thompson by KO (punch) at 2:24 of round 1

Rafael Fiejao - $6,000
John Doyle - $2,500
Fiejao defeated Doyle by TKO at 2:17 of round 1

Yosmany Cabazes - $2,000
Jon Kirk - $2,500
Cabazes defeated Kirk by submission (rear naked choke) at :52 of round 2

Dave Herman - $1,500
Mario Rinaldi - $2,000
Herman defeated Rinaldi by TKO 33 seconds into round 3

Eric Bradley - $1,000
Mikey Gomez - $1,500
Bradley defeated Gomez by unanimous decision

Mike Bernhard - $1,500
Lorenzo Borgameo - $1,000
Bernhard defeated Borgameo by submission (triangle) at 4:11 of round 2

Moyses Gabin — $1
Jirka Hlavaty — $500
Gabin defeated Hlavaty via technical knockout (cut) in round one

And from what I read that is not a typo. Gabin did receive 1 dollar.

My point was that if other companies start paying fighters fair vaule for what they do the UFC could be in trouble. I guess it wont be Elite XC...

[The Dude]

what's below and what you just posted are the reasons why the ufc is fine and has no competion. if you want to talk about dream, they can't even make their payroll from their last event.

Fighters may or may not have received special bonuses that would not appear here. It is unknown at this time if there were any such payouts.
The payouts were as follows.
Tim Sylvia $800,000
Fedor Emelianenko $300,000
Mark Hominick $5,000 Win Bonus $5,000 Total $10,000
Savant Young $7,000
Terry Martin $30,000 0
Vitor Belfort 7$0,000 Win Bonus $70,000 Total $140,000
Joseph Ambrose $5,000
Mike Pyle $15,000 Win Bonus $5,000 Total $20,000
Edwin Dewees $15,000 0
Antonio Nogueira $50,000 0
Matt Lindland $225,000 Win Bonus $75,000 Total 300,000
Fabio Nascimiento $20,000 0
Mike Whitehead $50,000 0
Renato Sobral $60,000 Win Bonus $30,000 Total $90,000
Pedro Rizzo $70,000 0
Josh Barnett $300,000
Andre Arlovski $500,000 Win Bonus $250,000 Total $750,000.00
Ben Rothwell $250,000
Justin Levens* $6,000 0
Ray Lizama* $3,000 0
Paul Buentello $60,000$ Win Bonus $20,000 Total $80,000
Gary Goodridge $25,000

Total Purses paid out was $3,321,000.00
Total Licensing fee’s paid out was $3250.00, Total fines paid were $1,500.00, for a total of $3,319,737 that fighters received.

The ticket sales for the event were surprisingly strong as Affliction sold a total of 11,242 tickets for a total of $2,085,510.00 in tickets sold. 3,590 tickets were given away that had a value of $600,500.00. Affliction also paid the commission a total of $115,247 for the live gate tax, radio/tv tax, neurological assessments and purse adjustments.

[Cornflake]

Plus I am going to gamble that Megadeth did not perform for free...

I liked the Affliction event. I like Megadeth but didn't think they fit in well with the event. That was a stacked card...

[The Dude]

i agree stacked card but they can't afford their overhead

[opasewq]

Gina didn't make wait the first time so she had to get on the scale naked, and unfortunately obstructed by towel well placed towels,

http://www.mmarated.com/videos/v/20081003/elitexc_weigh_ins__franchise_feature-6092.html

[Celtickliq]

Well I guess Kimbo is over.

[Lone Wolf]

That was free and I still felt robbed.

Brutal beatdown? Really? Kimbo shouldn't be going down like that, but come on ... I don't watch that much MMA, but would that have been called so quickly if it weren't network tv?

Whoever the announcer in the pink tie was is total garbage and must be the company man.

I feel dirty after watching this

[ShitBreak]

What happened?

[Lone Wolf]

Kimbo fell to a weird looking punch then got mounted and started getting hit then rolled on his back and took some real shots and then that was that. I wouldn't say he was given a real shot of getting back up.

[ShitBreak]

Jesus...Shamrock won?

Gross.

[bpb]

It wasn't Shamrock. Pettruzulli (sp?) was a last minute fill in.

[Steelrat]

Ken Shamrock was out because he had a cut above his eye from sparring the night before the match. Petruzelli, an ex-ufc light heavyweight, took the fight on short notice. Kimbo had about 30+ pounds on him, as well as a longer reach.

Kimbo acted like a thug, refusing to tap gloves with Petruzelli. Kimbo came out swinging, and Petruzelli threw up a body kick, followed by a quick jab. Kimbo got nailed by the jab (!), fell on his face, then Petruzelli hit him from the back a few times, then rolled Kimbo over and his him several times, without Kimbo blocking, until the ref called it. 14 seconds from start to finish. Kimbo went down so easy, he has no chin whatsover. It was better than I had ever hoped for.

I can't wait to see the animated gifs of the guy who runs EliteXC. Apparently, he was visibly upset with the situation. Of course, it was bound to happen once they ran out of cans to feed Kimbo.

[Erased]

That was free and I still felt robbed.

Brutal beatdown? Really? Kimbo shouldn't be going down like that, but come on ... I don't watch that much MMA, but would that have been called so quickly if it weren't network tv?

Whoever the announcer in the pink tie was is total garbage and must be the company man.

I feel dirty after watching this

What he said...

Edit: Also...was it just me or did that guy get like 5-6 punches to the back of kimbo's head...which I thought was illegal to do. Maybe i'm wrong but I thought shots to the back of the head were a big no-no.

[Bill]

http://i33.tinypic.com/t80twg.jpg

[Will-Kill]

Rutten needs to teach Slice to defend with his hands and not the beard, it looked like hits to the side of the head to me.

[Roll]

Kimbo fell to a weird looking punch then got mounted and started getting hit then rolled on his back and took some real shots and then that was that. I wouldn't say he was given a real shot of getting back up.

He got caught by a half assed punch, but he had PLENTY of opportunity to get up. I just can't figure how or why he didn't. I know Kimbo has a better chin than that.

[Celtickliq]

After watching the Kimbo "fight", Elite xc is the WNBA of MMA. Fucking UFC all the way now.

Gina Carano is still sort of how with decent sized boobs though....

[Poop Sailboat]

http://i33.tinypic.com/t80twg.jpg


guys, take a long hard look. you have just seen the end of EliteXC.

[Bill]

guys, take a long hard look. you have just seen the end of EliteXC.

Yeah pretty much. A guy who got beat on the 2nd season of the Ultimate Fighter just DESTROYED your supposed golden boy.

[patcooper]

guys, take a long hard look. you have just seen the end of EliteXC.

Yeah it looks like they will be having a rematch.

[Poop Sailboat]

Yeah it looks like they will be having a rematch.
kimbo is the only thing making eliteXC any money. i read somewhere that they have lost about 50 million dollars in the last year. cbs will realize that kimbo is a joke seeing how he won't draw ratings anymore. don't be surprised if the organization folds sometime in the near future.

[patcooper]

kimbo is the only thing making eliteXC any money. i read somewhere that they have lost about 50 million dollars in the last year. cbs will realize that kimbo is a joke seeing how he won't draw ratings anymore. don't be surprised if the organization folds sometime in the near future.

Well Jared Shaw the head promoter of elitexc said a rematch will happen. and with elitexc working with affliction that helps their roster.
Since Frank Shamrock thought Ken "disgraced the Shamrock name", put him in the cage with Ken finally and let them sort it out. Then do the rematch with Kimbo and Seth as well as finally matching up Gina and Cyborg and possibly see if you can get Fedor on the card in some form as well as either Diaz and Noons finally done this time and get Robbie Lawler and Silva on the card too. I don't think Kimbo is a fraud just yet but if he prepares for Seth and still goes down that quickly, then I think we can make that assumption. This was one fight that Kimbo took to help keep his name on the card and help the promotion, let us see what he can do if he legitimately trains for the guy before we have him booked for Wrestlemania.

[Will-Kill]

Yea...I like to dream hopeful things too.

[Roll]

Kimbo threw the fight. He probably quadrupled his pay by betting against himself after Shamrock bitched out and ballooned the odds. The lines wouldve been STACKED against Petruzelli, and if Kimbo bet his to-show salary on that, he'd be getting way more than a win purse.

Kimbo probably knows that EliteXC is a sinking ship, just like we do, and is going to milk Jared Shaw for all he's worth. I've lost all hope that the man could become a real MMA fighter, but what can i say the man is a hustla.

http://cdn.cagepotato.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/skala-freaks-out.jpg


Jared Shaw Post Fight Interview (http://mmarated.com/videos/v/20081005/jared_shaw_post_fight_interview-6099.html)

[Bill]

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[Da Raider]

If Seth Petruzelli Was Paid To Keep The Fight Standing Up, Then Apparently Kimbo Didn't Get The Memo
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http://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/b522697505084dde2f20400e568fdd6a.jpgAfter destroying Kimbo Slice in 14 seconds, Seth Petruzelli said that EliteXC's promoters paid him to stand up and trade punches with Slice, instead of the logical fight plan, which would have been to take Kimbo down, where his ground game is suspect and unproven.

"My original plan was to throw out push kicks, they're called teeps, have him think that I'm going to throw them to try to rush in more, and then shoot in on him, obviously... but the promoters kinda hinted to me, and they gave me the money to stand and trade with him. They didn't want me to take him down, let's just put it that way. It was worth my while to try to stand up and punch with him."

Listen to the entire interview here (http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/30272/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/30272/3054/richmedia/seth_interview.mp3).

When questioned about it later, Petruzelli backpedaled a bit, saying that he was taken out of context:
"What was meant to be said was that I wanted to keep the fight standing for myself because I knew that was what the crowd, the promoters, and everyone wanted to see because that’s more exciting than just taking someone to the ground. That was my thing only. I wanted to keep it exciting so I decided to keep it standing. It had nothing to do with anybody else. That was all me."

http://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/a2fe1837113d86a14665cdc5298c1427.jpgSomewhere between the two statements, Petruzelli is lying. It's hard to tell which it is, but it wouldn't be surprising at all if EltieXC had discussed tactics with Petruzelli, and told him what they would rather see, for the purpose of increasing Kimbo's chances of winning.

If this is true, this is yet another huge black eye for EliteXC, an organization that is already on the ropes (http://www.faniq.com/blog/Video-Kimbo-Slice-Lost-Ken-Shamrock-Backed-Out-The-UFC-Is-Upping-The-Ante-EliteXC-Is-Dead-Blog-12452). If they were indeed paying Petruzelli to alter his fight style to play to Kimbo's strengths, then these are some serious allegations. The Florida State Athletic Commission would have to investigate this, and it would almost certainly mean the end of EliteXC as we know it if they were to find wrongdoing.

EliteXC Jared Shaw, who will most likely be at the center of any pending investigation, claimed in a postfight interview that the event was a success (http://mma.fanhouse.com/2008/10/05/kimbo-slice-seth-petruzelli-rematch-coming-elitexcs-jared-shaw/), and that he had no rooting interest in Kimbo's fight. This statement seems ridiculous to anyone who saw the fight, and noticed Jared jumping out of his seat screaming at the ref (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/65357-jared-shaw-once-again-embarrasses-himself-on-cbs) to stand the fight up again, a move that would seem to benefit Kimbo Slice, since his only strength is clearly his punching.



This isn't the first time that there have been questions about Kimbo's fights being fixed (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dw-kimbo060108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns). Nor is it the only allegation of this particular fight being fixed, although some are implying that it might have been fixed in the other direction (http://cityofchamps.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/was-the-kimbo-fight-fixed/).

The irony in this situation is that if EliteXC did indeed want Petruzelli to keep the fight standing, then their plan backfired tremendously. While it's likely that the fight would have resulted in a lopsided victory for Petruzelli if it had gone to the ground, the results were the same when Petruzelli stood up and exchanged punches with Kimbo. The only problem was that it wasn't much of an exchange, since Kimbo didn't throw many punches back.

If there is even a shred of truth to this, then EliteXC will have some serious explaining to do. It's obvious that Kimbo was their golden boy, and the success of the company depended partially on his continued success. But fixing fights is illegal, even if you fail at it. Hopefully, this is investigated thoroughly, and the truth comes out, whatever that is.

[Poop Sailboat]

http://i38.tinypic.com/5a49py.gif
that just needs the theme from benny hill.

[Lone Wolf]

This is the guy that knocked out Slice ... http://deadspin.com/5059233/meet-the-man-who-felled-kimbo

[Roll]

This whole night really was a freakshow.

[Roll]

Here's the article about the alleged Kimbo fix, in Baby Jesus's post.

http://mmamania.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/kimboslice-espn.jpg


Was the Kimbo Fight Fixed? *

from http://cityofchamps.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/was-the-kimbo-fight-fixed/


Not to say it was, but damn, all the signs point to it, no?


- Seth Petruzelli admitted after the fight that even he didn’t think he hit Kimbo square in the face. (“It didn’t feel too flush,” Petruzelli said of the first punch that apparently didn’t even need to land squarely to fell Kimbo.)

- Kimbo is notorious for the street fighting video in which he drops his hands and lets his opponent wail at his face, only to laugh and smile and then proceed to pummel him some more. How does one explain Kimbo being the best shape of his life, and then dropping to the ground like a sack of shit after 1 soft punch?


- Kimbo cares about money first, second, AND third. Every other incentive is a clear fourth option for him. Knowing that, would it be a surprise to anyone if Kimbo was offered an off the table deal (say from a UFC purist) to throw the fight and look bad doing it?


- Obviously, the counter argument to that, would be ‘Why would Kimbo throw the fight for a pay day, and lose out on all the pay-days of future fights?’. And the only rebuttal we can come up with is that Kimbo and his handlers knew he wasn’t ready for elite MMA, and might never be. They didn’t expect James Thompson to be one elbow away from winning the last fight, and perhaps they knew, that after this Shamrock fight (and possibly in the Shamrock fight itself,) Kimbo would be exposed in a way that would render all future fights and pay days neglible. If thats the case, and no one would know it better than Team Kimbo, then it would make sense to take this deal, and cash out in a way that wouldn’t have been possible had Kimbo lost on his own (which was a possibility).


* Even if you don’t agree with the finality of the statement, do your best to take off your “I hate Kimbo, I’m an MMA purist sunglasses” off and think about this. We’re not saying its so, but would it surprise ANYONE, if the fight was fixed, given that Kimbo fights for money first and reputation a distant second?

[Bill]

Kimbo getting destroyed actually helped his career in my opinion. Now he does not need to live up to this unbeatable street fighting legend that EliteXC was building around him. Now they can have their match makers put him in with guys who actually stand a chance on paper to beat him.

I mean he wont be in the ring with guys like Arlovski/Fedor and the like, but I could see him fighting someone like Ben Rothwell or one of the other million mid range heavyweight fighters in the world.

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

I read this article on Yahoo earlier. I think it's kinda fucked up, but I also get what the promoters are claiming. Doesn't really matter, Elite XC has about another 6 months to a year in them max.

[Bill]

I was thinking about it right after the fight.

Kimbo is a hustler through and through. How do we know he didnt take his winnings from his last couple of fights and dump it on Seth to win. The odds had to be insane.

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

http://upshizzle.com/temp/gina%20towel%202.gif

[bones12]

I was thinking about it right after the fight.

Kimbo is a hustler through and through. How do we know he didnt take his winnings from his last couple of fights and dump it on Seth to win. The odds had to be insane.

I doubt there were even odds for the event, as it was announced very late that he would be replacing Shamrock.

In that short amount of time, I doubt he would have made such a career altering decision.

That said, he is ALL about the money, so one never knows.

[Bill]

I doubt there were even odds for the event, as it was announced very late that he would be replacing Shamrock.

In that short amount of time, I doubt he would have made such a career altering decision.

That said, he is ALL about the money, so one never knows.

Dude, it's Vegas.

They were probably throwing around bets like in fucking Bloodsport.

[Jericho]

God damn. Every fucking year with these idiots. I know it wouldn't be as entertaining without booze in the house, but Dana needs to quit acting all shocked when they see red

[Bill]

My DVR didnt save the whole episode. :(

[Cornflake]

God damn. Every fucking year with these idiots. I know it wouldn't be as entertaining without booze in the house, but Dana needs to quit acting all shocked when they see red

Yeah if he is not kicked off I wont watch again... I usually like the assholes cause I am one too... I thought Mac Danzig was awesome... This guy is a fucking bitch. I only wished that Big Nog KOed his ass when he jumped in.

It really is not the alcohol that is the problem... I thought he was a bigger dick when he was sober. Only time Junie "Seemed" normal was when he was in front of the camera by himself making excuses why he was an asshole...

If you look at the cut scene for the next show it almost looks like Mir was kicking him off...

[Bill]

Dana White fucking rules. This guy is the head of a multi-million dollar company and he's flat out calling people scumbags and jerkoffs. I love it!

kkYC8TBzmmQ

[Cornflake]

Yeah I like Dana and I hate him... Some of the shit he does annoys the shit out of me... I kind of wish they would get rid of TUF... Watching these morons in the house is getting fucking dumb...

[bmackin]

I love when he calls them fucking morons. That is priceless.

[Cornflake]

Not much Dana in this episode of TUF

[CrazyCarl]

Elite XC down for the count


Elite XC, which produced seven of the 10 most-watched MMA matches in U.S. history on two CBS specials in recent months, will be closing its doors at the end of the week. This leaves a roster of fighters, including top draws Kimbo Slice and Gina Carano, looking for work in a constricted environment.

Elite XC joins the International Fight League and Bodog Fight as high-profile competitors to the industry leader, the Ultimate Fighting Championship, to fold during the past year.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-elitexc102008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[Poop Sailboat]

Elite XC down for the count


http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-elitexc102008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


guys, take a long hard look. you have just seen the end of EliteXC.

what a shocker.

[Cornflake]

Why are all these companies failing? I would love to see someone dethrone the UFC

[Poop Sailboat]

I wouldn't doubt seeing Affliction fold in the near future.

[Cornflake]

I hope not, but they probably will.

Seems like it is all about taking it slow and the TV deals you make..

[Will-Kill]

I think this means the UFC is going to stop trying so hard, or stop trying at all.

[The Dude]

gina and cyborg will get picked up by affliction as will jake shields and robbie lawler. other than that, there isn't anyone else worth a shit.

the ufc is going to be the be-all end-all for some time to come, get used to it. there is no one that can compete with them unless they do something radically different than what's been tried. Unless Trump, Cuban, or some Sheik want to throw some serious coin at starting something, it aint gonna happen. any company that wants to legitimately compete with the ufc is going to have to be able to operate at a substantial loss for some time...

[Cornflake]

This definitely puts a smile on Dana Whites face...

I wonder if this has anything to do with what Dana said in Bill's post above #141

[mbslugger89]

any word on the next time kimbo is gunna get his ass kicked? i love watching that guy get embarrassed by sub-par fighters

[Will-Kill]

For now its back to fighting fat ass bums in parking lots for Kimbo.

[Cornflake]

Lets see if Affliction picks him up...

[ruffdog]

Cote is gonna wreck silva

[Cornflake]

Dude I hope so... I like Silva and all but gotta go with our boy...

[Poop Sailboat]

Cote is gonna wreck silva
that's hilarious.

[patcooper]

Cote is gonna wreck silva


well the only thing cote wrecked was his fucking knee. sherk and tyson griffin stole the show. Koz can really take a beating, I'm liking him more and more.

[Omar from Wild and Crazy Kids]

Kimbo is headed to fight in Japan. He just plain sucks.

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

Rather lame UFC PPV. Glad I didn't pay for it. All I wanted to see was Diego and that didn't happen.

[Bill]

Dude Sherk/Griffin was an awesome fight. I totally forgot how good Sean's hands were. Those 5-6 punch combos were brutal.

[Jericho]

I don't know if TUF could've picked more unlikable coaches. Nogiera always omes off like a butthurt pussy, while Mir is a total asshole meathead.


That Vinny guy looked damned impressive last night. I don't know if I've ever seen kicks with that power and velocity. Ferocious

[Bill]

I fucking love Mir.

He is extremely knowledgeable. I love when he does commentary.

I love his story about how he got his black belt. "I went and broke Tim Sylvia's arm."

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

Yeah I was excited for last nights fight. I always root for the jiu-jitsu guy. Vinny is really impressive.

[The Dude]

I don't know if TUF could've picked more unlikable coaches. Nogiera always omes off like a butthurt pussy, while Mir is a total asshole meathead.


are you sure that you mean Frank Mir and not Krystof?

Mir is a) not an asshole and b)one of the furthest things from "meathead" that zuffa has

[Jericho]

I mean Mir. Maybe it's the editing but he just seems like a frat boy dick to me

[The Dude]

i think he has some of the best mma knowledge out there but more importantly he has the ability to communicate effectively and well. ever seen him on a WEC broadcast?

[Jericho]

I have not. Have you seen him on TUF

[The Dude]

yep. and big nog looked like a pussy in one episode, so i'm not really sure what you're getting at there either.


do you feel threatened by big nog and frank mir? do you want to talk about it?

[Jericho]

Nog in one episode was telling all the guys to stop pranking each other, and it came off kinda weak,and last night when that dude told Nog that vinny said he could take nog on the ground. The guy tried to apologize and he was all "No. You screwed up.We have nothing to say" I dunno,man. He bugs me

[bones12]

Nog's a badass, and he's come off as nothing but caring for his team this whole time. His fighters weren't able to sleep because itching powder was put in their beds, and he didn't want that effecting the outcome of a fight. Then when he voices his displeasure (with obviously language barriers and difficulties) the other team disrespected him...these guys are nobodies, and disrespecting Nog is about the dumbest thing you can do.

As for the argument last night. Vinny said in his blog that happened weeks after his fight, so it sounds like the fighters on Nog's team were probably playing it up a lot more than what it was. It wasn't even about what he said to Mir, it was in response to what Nog's fighters were telling him Vinny was saying at the house, which we never saw.

[Roll]

I haven't seen all the seasons, but it seems like this Mir+Nogueira are the best/most well-matched TUF coaches so far.

The only other coach I thought was awesome was Matt Serra, unfortunately. even with that hyena voice of his.

[Cornflake]

Tito was a good coach as well...

[Cornflake]

Cool video about the Pride/UFC war.

I liked pride more but over here we are obviously exposed to the UFC more than anything else...

Enjoy.

cZA6koxl130

[Poop Sailboat]

http://mmamania.com/2008/11/03/chris-leben-tests-positive-for-steroids-and-is-suspended-for-nine-months-after-ufc-89-loss/


Chris Leben has tested positive for the performance-enhancing illegal steroid known as Stanazolol in the wake of his unanimous decision loss to Michael Bisping in the main event at UFC 89: “Leben vs. Bisping” at The National Indoor Arena (NIA) in Birmingham, England, on October 18.
As a result “The Crippler” will be suspended for nine months and fined one-third of his fight purse. The earliest he can compete again inside the Octagon is August 2009.
It’s the latest in a string of setbacks for Leben who has battled with alcohol for more than 15 years. He served a prison sentence earlier this year for an old Driving Under the Influence (DUI) probation violation in Portland, Ore., to ensure that he would be cleared to leave the United States to fight “The Count.”
Clearly, he’s not happy with himself after declaring major progress in his personal and professional lives, according to a statement release via UFC.com (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=15599).
Here’s a snip:
“I’ve really done everything I can to turn my life around, and this is a huge setback for me, but it is something I will have to deal with. During my time off from fighting, I want to speak to kids about the dangers of using performance enhancing agents and let them know it just doesn’t get you ahead in life. Of course this is a hard hit for me monetarily, but more so this is embarrassing for me and for all of my fans. I apologize to the UFC and everyone who supported me in my fight in England. I hope to work through this and get back to fighting soon.”
UFC Vice President of Government and Regulatory Affairs Marc Ratner — who is also the former Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) executive director — is the man responsible for administering the tests because their are no official regulatory bodies overseas that can monitor the process.
Therefore, kudos to the organization for policing itself and making the results public … it was certainly under no obligation to be so forthcoming.
The report indicates that the “remaining 21 fighters on the UFC 89 card all passed their pre and post fight drug tests.”

[Da Raider]

i don't understand the big deal about professional athletes using performance enhancing drugs. If they no how to use them correctly and are aware of the consequences of long time abuse that's their problem. But who the fuck is the government to tell a highly skilled and conditioned athlete what they can or cannot put in their body? Theatre of the absurd. And sanctamonius.

[Poop Sailboat]

wow, urijah faber just got worked.

[The Dude]

wow, urijah faber just got worked.

that. Just. Happened.

[Cornflake]

I don't get TSN2 where it is being aired in Canada... Fucking Rogers

[bones12]

Faber's quickness and unorthodox fighting style finally caught up to him, crazy shot he took. Pulver got destroyed, and Filho was clearly on LSD or something....weird night all around.

[The Dude]

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/matt_mories/AirbornUrijah.gif

[bones12]

http://i37.tinypic.com/2zoewr6.jpg

[Jericho]

haha...how many guys is he fighting there?

[bones12]

He was like talking to nobody too, weird stuff. Something was going on, clearly, and I'm surprised the commission even let him fight in his "condition".

http://i34.tinypic.com/r1hsfn.gif

[The Dude]

i can't believe sonnen didn't finish him

[bones12]

He got caught trying to finish him the last time they fought. He stuck to his gameplan, and was clearly dominating the fight...no reason to put yourself at risk against such a highly skilled submission specialist, especially one high as a kite.

[The Dude]

true enough...maybe the ref should've stopped the fight, i dunno it was just really really bizarre

[Bill]

I wanna see the Razor Rob/Cowboy fight, it was supposed to be ridiculous.

[Poop Sailboat]

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/matt_mories/AirbornUrijah.gif
almost looks like wwe shit

[Cornflake]

Anyone see the ultimate fighter last night? There was food issues with people eating peoples food... 4 guys pissed in the fruit and one guy jizzed on the sushi...

[Bastard]

I’m looking forward to the Couture vs. Lesnar fight. Forgive me if I overlooked it but I didn’t see any betting event for UFC 91. I would like to make some fake money after Randy defeats Lesnar.

[Whiffleball]

I'm surprised there isn't more talk about Couture versus Lesnar tomorrow considering how huge this fight is going to be for MMA. I'm sure that the PPV will get massive buys no matter what, but I still feel that somehow UFC dropped the ball on marketing this. Spike is partly to blame because, other than that one commercial, I haven't really seen anything hype-wise... There was the usual countdown show, but it was on rather late. UFC is one of the best things Spike has got going because TNA has been stagnant and otherwise it's CSI re-runs, van Damme movies and World's Most Dangerous Police Chases...

My picks:

Couture versus Lesnar -- This is a tough one to call. As much as I dislike Lesnar and hope he loses, there's no denying that Randy isn't the fighter he used to be and the size difference may be insurmountable. I predict Brock will start off strong but, having to fight twice as hard as he has so far for his takedowns, will eventually gas and then break down when Randy is allowed to start getting in offense. Randy could end up gassing too. I see this going to the third round.

Florian versus Stevenson -- Joe is the better wrestler but I think Kenny will play it smart and keep it standing. They're fairly even that way, but Florian has the pace to make it last. If Florian doesn't knock Joe out beforehand, he'll get the decision. For those who think the main event is too freak show, this should please the purists.

Maia versus Quarry -- Demian takes some knocks from Nate but gets Quarry down and makes him tap, probably sooner rather than later.

Hazelett versus McCrory -- "McLovin" makes "The Barn Cat" tap out in the third round. Yes, those are their real nicknames.

Gonzaga versus Hendricks -- Gonzaga gets a submission rather easily and probably early.

[Draven X 23]

The salary schedule for both competitors involved in tonight’s UFC 91 main event have been made available to the general public. Typically such information does not become available until after a fight card (http://www.prowrestling.com/article/news/10988#) is completed, however, Nevada State Athletic Commission executive director Keith Kizer has revealed to the Los Angeles Times that both Randy Couture and Brock Lesnar are guaranteed $250,000 each. Additionally, Couture is to be paid $250,000 if he wins with Lesnar set to receive $200,000 should he be victorious.

It is important to note that both Couture and Lesnar stand to earn substantially more for their efforts in tonight’s fight. Both Couture and Lesnar will be eligible to win fight night bonuses such as cash rewards (http://www.prowrestling.com/article/news/10988#) for “Fight of the Night,” “Knockout of the Night,” and “Submission of the Night.” Based on UFC president Dana White’s stated projection of 1.2 million pay-per-view buys, the promotion could give a record total in fight night bonuses.

Also, while not confirmed, based on past contract provisions, both Couture and Lesnar are expected to receive a percentage of PPV revenue generated from tonight’s fight. When it’s all said and done, both Couture and Lesnar are expected to make seven figures a piece from UFC (http://www.prowrestling.com/article/news/10988#) 91.


I just do not get how Lesnar is a big deal. Sure he came from Pro Wrestling but he is a douche. And has not really proven himself. Even winning tonight he just proves he can beat a middle aged man.

[Jericho]

He is a douche, but the fact that he crossed over from wrestling makes him a huge draw. MMA and wrestling share a lot of the same fans, and with the former WWE champ headlinging against the former UFC champ, The MMA purists are gonna want to see Brock get worked, while the wrestling fans are more apt to pay for the show to see if their guy could be the real deal. You can't blame Dana, it only makes sense to promote the shit out of Lesnar to pull in the WWE crowd, same as when he tried to get Angle. And now that Bobby Lashley has entered the MMA world,if he's remotely successful, Dana will probably go after him, too.

[Genius]

I'm rooting for The Natural. He was big shit back when I actually watched UFC, in like 1997. His brain matter is probably more fucked than Chris Benoit's by now. Let's go Randy!

[Hoser]

He is a douche, but the fact that he crossed over from wrestling makes him a huge draw. MMA and wrestling share a lot of the same fans, and with the former WWE champ headlinging against the former UFC champ, The MMA purists are gonna want to see Brock get worked, while the wrestling fans are more apt to pay for the show to see if their guy could be the real deal. You can't blame Dana, it only makes sense to promote the shit out of Lesnar to pull in the WWE crowd, same as when he tried to get Angle. And now that Bobby Lashley has entered the MMA world,if he's remotely successful, Dana will probably go after him, too.

I can't stand WWE. I like WWF back in the day, but that was long ago.

That being said, I do like Lesner and hope he wins.

[NOTKyle]

The lines are up for tonight's event if you fools want to gamble away your fake money.

[Whiffleball]

He is a douche, but the fact that he crossed over from wrestling makes him a huge draw. MMA and wrestling share a lot of the same fans, and with the former WWE champ headlinging against the former UFC champ, The MMA purists are gonna want to see Brock get worked, while the wrestling fans are more apt to pay for the show to see if their guy could be the real deal. You can't blame Dana, it only makes sense to promote the shit out of Lesnar to pull in the WWE crowd, same as when he tried to get Angle. And now that Bobby Lashley has entered the MMA world,if he's remotely successful, Dana will probably go after him, too.

QFT.

While he certainly hasn't "paid his dues" as other MMA fighters have, there's no denying he's an exciting fighter, which he proved in his fight against Frank Mir. He's got the huge size, obviously, and he hits hard and is aggressive. So while it's pretty absurd that a fighter with two wins and one loss has a shot at the UFC Heavyweight Championship (and, if he wins, to unify it with the interim title), there's no denying he has skill and is interesting to watch. Besides, the heavyweight division in the UFC is not exactly bubbling over with great talent anyway.

And, as Jericho said, there's the desire to get attention and make lots of $$$. MMA and pro-wrestling both attract the 18 to 35 demographic. I'm also not sure if Lesnar is playing the bad guy ala his wrestling days, really is a huge douchebag or a combination of both, but there's lots of people (including myself) who are rooting for him to lose and lose badly.

I would actually say the suspense of whether Lesnar will win or lose against "real" competition is the bigger draw than the heavyweight title saga, although even that is arguable since, if Randy loses, people will say he was too old, too rusty, had too many injuries, etc.

In my opinion, no matter who loses tonight, Nog wins.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/pros-picks-couture-vs-lesnar-15167

Chris Lytle (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Chris-Lytle-267): I see no way Randy can win. He’s too old, too small and [had] too long of a layoff. Lesnar is too massive, athletic and younger. That being said, I think Randy wins.

Mac Danzig (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Mac-Danzig-3396): I think Randy wins this fight with experience and overall ability. It seems like Lesnar’s best chance of winning is if he can hold someone [down] for three rounds like he did to [Heath] Herring. I don’t think he can do that to Randy. Plus, he has a giant penis tattooed on his chest, which can’t be helpful.

Din Thomas (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Din-Thomas-1301): I think Randy’s got his hands full. Most fight fans don’t want to give Lesnar his props because they see him as a WWE guy. Not me. I see a college wrestling national champ, a big one, a really big one. I trained with a national champ in Ben Askren, and he played with me like Michael Jackson does an 8-year-old. But with Randy’s experience, he will prepare with the right people, and [it] will be easier for him to prepare for Lesnar than it would be for Lesnar to prepare for Randy. I’m just not sure it’ll be enough. I’m gonna go with Lesnar.

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

For those interested, this has been posted before, but download sopcast and go to channel 24267. Live feed.
http://www.sopcast.com/

[Pete t]

that channel is offline for me,

edit* NVM

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

Great, you get in and now it just went down for me.

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

TVU channel 61886, if sopcast stopped working for you as well.

http://www.tvunetworks.com/

[Draven X 23]

How disappointing.

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

How disappointing.

[Will-Kill]

Nogueira or Mir will beat him...

[Roll]

I can't believe it.

He actually did it.

[The Dude]

http://i37.tinypic.com/2llgh95.jpg

[Jericho]

Tiger uppercut!

[Poop Sailboat]

right after that happened, "The Sounds Of Silence" by Simon and Garfunkel starting playing in my head.

[Will-Kill]

Tiger uppercut!

Just need some Fire sfx and a KO at the end.

[Bastard]

It is pretty disappointing to see Lesnar as champion. Not only because I’m a fan of Randy Couture but because it seems to cheapen the title. I suppose the real winner from that fight is UFC because they get to keep marketing and billing Lesnar as the next great thing. It depends on how long Lesnar can keep the title.

[Bill]

I dunno the punch that knocked Randy down was kind of suspect. The hammerfists though were fucking brutal.

[bones12]

Doesn't really look suspect to me, he took a 3XL fist to the back of the head, right behind the ear...that's going to knock your legs right out from under you 99 out of 100 times.

http://i34.tinypic.com/11bsmjd.gif

[Jericho]

God, His hands are huge

[Hoser]

Agreed.

If it was just a glancing blow his head wouldnt have been pushed back like that and the skin on his neck wouldnt have shaken like that.

[Poop Sailboat]

It is pretty disappointing to see Lesnar as champion. Not only because I’m a fan of Randy Couture but because it seems to cheapen the title.

cheapen the title? the heavyweight title or division hasn't really been relevant in recent times. if anything, this will jumpstart the division.

[Bill]

Doesn't really look suspect to me, he took a 3XL fist to the back of the head, right behind the ear...that's going to knock your legs right out from under you 99 out of 100 times.

http://i34.tinypic.com/11bsmjd.gif

Disregard my last comment. From this angle it does look brutal. The angle they kept showing on the broadcast looked completely different to me.

[ShitBreak]

All I ask for is that one day, while Lesnar is fighting, he just decides to be awesome and picks a dude up and F5's him.

Yeah....I went there.

[Bastard]

cheapen the title? the heavyweight title or division hasn't really been relevant in recent times. if anything, this will jumpstart the division.

Yes, I feel Lesnar as champion cheapens the title in comparison to Randy Couture being champion.
Couture is certainly more established, has a better reputation and is respected by more people.
I don’t think much of Lesnar personally, I still don’t take him seriously, and I didn’t think he deserved a title shot this early in his career. That being said, of course it will kick start the division. Like I said, Lesnar winning the title will be a boom to UFC and let them market the hell out of him. Will Lesnar ever live up to the hype? Who knows. We’ll see who he fights next and how long he can keep the title.

[Poop Sailboat]

Yes, I feel Lesnar as champion cheapens the title in comparison to Randy Couture being champion.
Couture is certainly more established, has a better reputation and is respected by more people.
I don’t think much of Lesnar personally, I still don’t take him seriously, and I didn’t think he deserved a title shot this early in his career. That being said, of course it will kick start the division. Like I said, Lesnar winning the title will be a boom to UFC and let them market the hell out of him. Will Lesnar ever live up to the hype? Who knows. We’ll see who he fights next and how long he can keep the title.
still, even as old as he is now, beating couture is no small feat.

[Poop Sailboat]

wtf?

Jon Fitch, Christian Wellisch and possibly others cut by UFC (http://mmamania.com/2008/11/19/jon-fitch-christian-wellisch-and-possibly-others-cut-by-ufc/)

By: MMAmania (http://mmamania.com/author/admin/)
http://mmamania.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/ftichmyspace.jpg
Former number one UFC welterweight contender Jon Fitch was today handed his walking papers for refusing to sign an agreement that would give the promotion exclusive lifetime video game rights to his name and likeness, MMAmania.com (http://www.mmamania.com/) can exclusively confirm.
American Kickboxing Academy (AKA) team member Christian Wellisch was also released. Others who do not sign the agreement could also be let go in the near future, including stars Cain Velasquez and Josh Koscheck (he will still headline UFC Fight Night 16: “Fight for the Troops”).
Fitch and members of his camp were not immediately available for comment on the startling development.
While the full details are a little murky at this time, Fitch was apparently approached about the issue when he turned in his signed bout agreement to fight Akihiro Gono at UFC 94: “St. Pierre vs. Penn 2″ on January 31. And when he and his representatives attempted to negotiate the video game deal it was all or nothing.
He didn’t sign it and was terminated shortly therefafter.
Fitch — who is tied with Royce Gracie and Anderson Silva for the most consecutive wins in UFC history (eight) — recently lost a gutsy unanimous decision to welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre at UFC 87: “Seek and Destroy” on August 9.
The former Purdue University wrestler just returned from a trip to Thailand to refine his Muay Thai and stand up skills. For the time being he may have to now put those skills to the test outside the Octagon for the first time since 2006.
He’s among the top 170-pound fighters in the world and should land on his feet sooner rather than later. Talk about a big loss for the UFC … and Jon Fitch.
More on this breaking exclusive news as soon as we receive it. Hopefully cooler heads soon prevail.

[patcooper]

well it looks like fedors people want him to fight brock. wow i'd love to see this one happen. i never will though.

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Fedor Emelianenko, M-1 welcome "superfight" with UFC's Brock Lesnar (http://mmajunkie.com/news/13282/fedor-emelianenko-and-m-1-welcome-a-superfight-with-brock-lesnar.mma)

by Dann Stupp on Nov 18, 2008 at 10:04 pm ET
http://mmajunkie.com/dyn/images/fighters/fedor-emelianenko-banned.jpgIn the wake up former UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture's recent loss to Brock Lesnar, M-1 Global and WAMMA heavyweight title-holder Fedor Emelianenko have publicly stated their desire for a "superfight" between the famed Russian fighter and the UFC's new heavyweight champion.

M-1 today released the official statement of the proposed bout with Lesnar while Emelianenko granted interviews with select media members.

M-1 executive Jerry Millen and Emelianenko clarify that the fight would need to be a "co-promoted event between the UFC, M-1, and Affliction Entertainment" -- something that could be difficult given, what they argue, has been the UFC's "anti-Fedor policy."

Up until Couture's second-round TKO loss to Lesnar, Emelianenko and Couture had worked diligently toward their own fight. In fact, Couture cited his desire for the Emelianenko bout as one of the reasons he wanted to leave the UFC last year. The contract dispute lasted more than a year and culminated with Couture's loss to Lesnar this past weekend.

While Emelianenko is still open to fighting Couture, he and M-1 now also want to meet Lesnar. However, they don't feel it would be much of a contest.

"In a match between Fedor and Lesnar, we do not feel that at this stage Lesnar would be able to make it out of the first round," the statement read.

The full text of the statement can be found below. Additionally, stay tuned to MMAjunkie.com (http://mmajunkie.com/) (www.mmajunkie.com (http://www.mmajunkie.com)) for our interview with Emelianenko in which he discusses Couture, Lesnar and the Russian's upcoming "Affliction: Day of Reckoning" main event with Andrei Arlovski.

[The Dude]

wtf?

Jon Fitch, Christian Wellisch and possibly others cut by UFC (http://mmamania.com/2008/11/19/jon-fitch-christian-wellisch-and-possibly-others-cut-by-ufc/)

By: MMAmania (http://mmamania.com/author/admin/)
http://mmamania.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/ftichmyspace.jpg
Former number one UFC welterweight contender Jon Fitch was today handed his walking papers for refusing to sign an agreement that would give the promotion exclusive lifetime video game rights to his name and likeness, MMAmania.com (http://www.mmamania.com/) can exclusively confirm.
American Kickboxing Academy (AKA) team member Christian Wellisch was also released. Others who do not sign the agreement could also be let go in the near future, including stars Cain Velasquez and Josh Koscheck (he will still headline UFC Fight Night 16: “Fight for the Troops”).
Fitch and members of his camp were not immediately available for comment on the startling development.
While the full details are a little murky at this time, Fitch was apparently approached about the issue when he turned in his signed bout agreement to fight Akihiro Gono at UFC 94: “St. Pierre vs. Penn 2″ on January 31. And when he and his representatives attempted to negotiate the video game deal it was all or nothing.
He didn’t sign it and was terminated shortly therefafter.
Fitch — who is tied with Royce Gracie and Anderson Silva for the most consecutive wins in UFC history (eight) — recently lost a gutsy unanimous decision to welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre at UFC 87: “Seek and Destroy” on August 9.
The former Purdue University wrestler just returned from a trip to Thailand to refine his Muay Thai and stand up skills. For the time being he may have to now put those skills to the test outside the Octagon for the first time since 2006.
He’s among the top 170-pound fighters in the world and should land on his feet sooner rather than later. Talk about a big loss for the UFC … and Jon Fitch.
More on this breaking exclusive news as soon as we receive it. Hopefully cooler heads soon prevail.

remain calm:

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/

[NotAllBlack]

I would love to see it But I think fedor would destroy brock. Even Randy for that matter. Of course I thought CroCop would destroy all in the UFC

[Insomniac]

Explain why UFC doesn't like Emelianenko. I know they haven't been on good terms, but I have no idea why.

[bones12]

Because the UFC only signs exclusive contracts, that wouldn't allow Fedor to compete in Sambo or any other mixed martial arts events. That, and I'm sure he's asking for more money than the UFC is willing to part with. It's not that they don't like him, it's that they can't come to an agreement, so they belittle his acheivements to make it seem to people who only follow the UFC that he's not as good as advertised, which is clearly not the case.

As for Cro Cop dominating the UFC, he came, went 1-2 (beat a can, then suffered a devastation knockout, and a complete technical dismantling), and promptly left.

[patcooper]

dana has said that negotiating with fedors people is very difficult. he said that they are Russian mobsters and just when you are close to coming to an agreement they through some bullshit out like we want you to build a new staduim for us in kieve. so dana basically is fed up with dealing with his people.

And i agree 100% that he would beat the shit out of brock and now it looks like the same for randy.

[Platzhouse]

As for Cro Cop dominating the UFC, he came, went 1-2 (beat a can, then suffered a devastation knockout, and a complete technical dismantling), and promptly left.

Then, after leaving UFC he got his nuts smashed in by Overeem with the DREAM promotion.

[patcooper]

yeah i was a huge cro cop fan and what a disappointment he was in ufc.

[johnnyo]

He wanted more money than Dana White wanted to pay

Explain why UFC doesn't like Emelianenko. I know they haven't been on good terms, but I have no idea why.

[Cornflake]

dana has said that negotiating with fedors people is very difficult. he said that they are Russian mobsters and just when you are close to coming to an agreement they through some bullshit out like we want you to build a new staduim for us in kieve. so dana basically is fed up with dealing with his people.

And i agree 100% that he would beat the shit out of brock and now it looks like the same for randy.

You can't believe a word Dana says... He is a fucking douche... Like someone pointed out already, when you sign with the UFC, Dana wants complete control over you.

And do you think Brock is more of a threat than Fedor??? Lets ask Randy...

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[PDiddy]

He wanted more money than Dana White wanted to pay

From UFCresultslive:

"Apparently the UFC is offering Fedor more money than any other organization, but their contract terms are too strict for the Russian fighter.

Fedor is considered to be the best heavyweight MMA fighter in the world and UFC president Dana White has indicated a number of times that it is just a matter of time before he signs with the UFC. It looks though, in a recent interview between Sherdog and Vadim Finkelstein that the UFC's terms are just too strict. One sticking point in particular is Fedor's ability (or non ability) to fight in the World Sambo Championships representing Russia."

Sounds like it was the exclusive contract not the money.

[The Dude]

So who saw the "fight for the troops" last night? more specifically, who saw corey hill's leg snap while throwing a kick and who saw Steve Cantwell snap Al-Hassan's arm with a nasty armbar?

there's not much to say about hill other than that's probably the most gruesome injury i've seen in the sport...no way to describe it, i actually think its on tmz if you want to look.

Al-Hassan had plenty of time to tap too, it wasn't like it was a split second thing. I really don't get that...going to sleep is one thing, but I fail to see what not tapping to a joint-lock proves...no tough guy points there, just months (maybe longer depending) of physical therapy. When you make your living fighting, especially on undercards, I can't see how you can afford to take that amount of time off.

[Bill]

So who saw the "fight for the troops" last night? more specifically, who saw corey hill's leg snap while throwing a kick and who saw Steve Cantwell snap Al-Hassan's arm with a nasty armbar?

there's not much to say about hill other than that's probably the most gruesome injury i've seen in the sport...no way to describe it, i actually think its on tmz if you want to look.

Al-Hassan had plenty of time to tap too, it wasn't like it was a split second thing. I really don't get that...going to sleep is one thing, but I fail to see what not tapping to a joint-lock proves...no tough guy points there, just months (maybe longer depending) of physical therapy. When you make your living fighting, especially on undercards, I can't see how you can afford to take that amount of time off.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff303/Howie3045/HILLBROKENLEG.jpg

HOLY SHIT

[bones12]

Al-Hassan, I don't know. Maybe his adrenaline was flowing being on the main card of a UFC event, and he just didn't realize the trouble he was in until it was too late. He had a look of sheer shock on his face as soon as he sat up...I read that he had a softball sized mass on his elbow, which likely means the tendons rolled up into his arm.

Besides those 2 injuries, Ben Saunders absolutely putting a Muay Thai clinch clinic on Wolff had some gruesome results as well...his entire forehead was a knot when they showed him sitting in his corner after the fight. Koscheck had one of the more brutal knockouts I've ever seen over Yoshida, and Swick knocked Goulet unconscious through the commercial break in their fight.

Everyone knows it's a brutal sport, but last night was BY FAR the most brutal event I've ever seen, or even heard about.

[The Dude]

Everyone knows it's a brutal sport, but last night was BY FAR the most brutal event I've ever seen, or even heard about.

i'd agree with that...there may have been some more brutal fights, but as an event, no question...by FAR.

[Jericho]

Anyone else find it kind of strange that guys were beating the piss out of each other to raise money for brain injury

[bones12]

http://i34.tinypic.com/21ce3kh.jpg

Wolff might need to take advantage of the buildings services that they were raising that money for...

[Jericho]

Oh my fucking godddd

[The Dude]

A night of jaw-dropping injuries and stoppages at UFC’s “Fight for the Troops” were reflected in medical suspensions issued by the North Carolina Boxing Authority on Thursday.

Corey Hill is suspended indefinitely for the visible left leg fracture he suffered after opponent Dale Hartt checked his leg kick in the opening exchange of the second round. Following a referee stoppage, he was taken to a nearby hospital after the leg was placed in an aircast.

Hill underwent surgery for a broken leg Thursday morning at Cape Fear Valley Medical Center in Fayetteville, N.C., according to a report from the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

Expected to be out of action anywhere from a year to 18 months, Hill is currently resting in the hospital with his family. The former Ultimate Fighter standout is handling the injury well and is reportedly in good spirits.

UFC newcomer Razak Al-Hussan is also suspended indefinitely for his joint-popping armbar loss to former WEC light heavyweight champion Steve Cantwell. Ringside doctor Sara Neal will require Al-Hussan to see an orthopedic doctor before being cleared to fight again.

Al-Hassan was treated and released from the hospital Wednesday night after suffering a dislocated right elbow.

Newcomer Brandon Wolff is suspended for 45 days for a contusion/hematoma on his forehead following his TKO loss to Ben Saunders.

Nate Loughran is suspended for 30 days due to lacerations suffered in his loss to Tim Credeur.

Co-main event fighter Jonathan Goulet is suspended for 60 days following his knockout loss to Mike Swick. Goulet must have his left elbow x-rayed and cleared by an orthopedist before being cleared to fight.

Main event fighter Yoshiyuki Yoshida is suspended for 90 days following his knockout loss to Josh Koscheck.

Yoshida and Goulet were both treated and released for concussions. Goulet will also have his knee checked out when he returns to his native Canada.

[Poop Sailboat]

god that shit looks brutal....i only saw the al-hassan arm snap....that was bad enough.

[ruffdog]

shittttt...gotta download this shit and watch the fights

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

I just downloaded and watched all of fight for the troops. Did I miss the Corey Hill thing? When did that fight happen? Did it get edited out?

[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

haDDg1BXgHY

[Will-Kill]

This has to be one of the first UFC events if seen with the most people hurt: Swollen head, Broken Leg, Broken Arm, 2 Ko's and cuts to the face.

Painful night to help the troops.

[Cornflake]

Mother fucker, that is going to haunt my dreams for a while.. Seriously, I have no idea why guys throw those stupid low leg kicks.

Yeah when your caught, fucking tap your dumb fuck... That is the only result when you are in an arm bar.
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[s0bv1ou5lyd3sprt]

What a disappointment Phillipe Nover is in this fight.

[Bill]

That head kick KO was fucking brutal.

[Kopek]

What a disappointment Phillipe Nover is in this fight.

Six month old hype is a mother fucker.