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Morfin
09-03-2008, 01:34 PM
Warnings for parents of fat children

Warnings for parents of fat children
Parents are to receive official letters telling them if their child has a weight problem under a Government crackdown on obesity, it has been announced.

Earlier this year the results from the last measuring exercise were published showing almost one in four children in reception year were overweight

However the words 'obese' or 'fat' will not be used in order to avoid stigmatising them, Government officials have admitted.

The word obese makes parents 'switch off' and not take any notice, officials said, so instead parents will be told their child is overweight or very overweight.

'Exercise' has also been substituted for 'physical activity' in the letters.

From September this year it is expected that all parents who allow their child to be weighed and measured as part of the Government's drive to solve the childhood obesity crisis will automatically receive the results through the post.

The measurements will be used to calculate the child's Body Mass Index adjusted for their age but parents will not be told this figure.

Instead the pro-forma letter will plot where the child is on a scale from underweight, to healthy weight, overweight and very overweight.

The results will be confidential. Children, school staff and other medical professionals will not be told and it is up to parents to seek help and advice if they want it.

The National Child Measurement Programme aims to take the height and weight of all children in the first year of school, aged four or five, and again in year 6, aged 10 or 11.

Last year 15 per cent of children did not take part as their parents objected and it is feared that the results are skewed as overweight children are more likely to opt out.

The Government cannot force parents to allow their child to be weighed and measured because it would breach Human Rights legislation, Dr Cavendish said.

He said there was a balancing act between being a 'nanny state' and being a 'neglectful state'.

Earlier this year the results from the last measuring exercise were published showing almost one in four children in reception year were overweight or obese and this rose to one in three in year six.

Health minister Ivan Lewis said: "It's clear from research we've done that parents want to know their child's results and whether there is a concern about their health. But they want clear information which is non-stigmatising and helpful.

"Research shows that most parents of overweight or obese children think that their child is a healthy weight.

Tam Fry, Chairman of the Child Growth Foundation and board member at the National Obesity Forum, said it was 'bananas’ not to call obese children obese, and using a vague sliding scale instead of giving parents the details of their child’s BMI.

He said: “We have gone past the stage of being nice, we have got to bring people up short and tell parents, your child is obese do something about it or it will die before you do.”

He also criticised the Human Rights laws which meant parents could opt out of having their child weighed saying it was making it more difficult to help those people most in need.

He called for all children to be weighed every year and for staff carrying out the measurements to be properly trained as there was evidence the results were inaccurate in some cases.

Matthew Sinclair, Policy Analyst at the TaxPayers’ Alliance, said: “This new programme is another example of the Government’s muddled thinking when it comes to public health. It seems that they are perfectly happy to set up grand, expensive schemes using taxpayers’ money but don’t have the backbone to follow them through properly. It is questionable whether schemes like this have much value even if they are run properly but failing to really confront the parents of obese children and bring home the seriousness of their predicament can only result in a messy half way house.”
Link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2498072/Warnings-for-parents-of-fat-children.html)

This is an unbelievable story for several reasons. First, 15% of the parents objected to their children being weighed and measured? Human rights legislation prevents the schools from weighing kids?

Second, they are more concerned about calling kids fat or obese and 'stigmatizing' them than they are about getting these kids to be healthy and avoid being fat, sedentary, unhealthy adults.

Good for the Brits at least trying to do something, even if they have to tip-toe around landmines like parents objecting to their kids being weighed. I wish the U.S. would do this and be more pro-active. It's time to step on a few fat toes and get people to realize that our health care system, as bad as it is now, is going to be even worse when all these fat children become fat, diabetic adults, traveling around in those stupid little motorized carts.

teamusa
09-03-2008, 01:39 PM
Link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2498072/Warnings-for-parents-of-fat-children.html)


Good for the Brits at least trying to do something, even if they have to tip-toe around landmines like parents objecting to their kids being weighed. I wish the U.S. would do this and be more pro-active. It's time to step on a few fat toes and get people to realize that our health care system, as bad as it is now, is going to be even worse when all these fat children become fat, diabetic adults, traveling around in those stupid little motorized carts.

lol. agreed!!

Fletch
09-03-2008, 01:42 PM
However the words 'obese' or 'fat' will not be used in order to avoid stigmatising them, Government officials have admitted.Good...leave the stigmatising to fellow students. You would think when fat kids get made fun of it might encourage them to get fit...but that never seems to be the case.

Limp
09-03-2008, 01:43 PM
Unless the parents are blind.... they know their kid is a FACE waiting to happen.

HAWK
09-03-2008, 04:33 PM
Parents are fucking lazy. It's easier to let them eat(do) what they want than to actually set parameters that might actually save their lives in the long run.

sidewinder
09-04-2008, 01:57 AM
Yeah but I think the point every-one's missing is government already is too involved in our lives. If I want to weigh 600lbs or 90lbs its non of their damned business. The easiest way to deal with it is stop this insane idea of public health care...Insurance companies aren't going to cover these kids when they get older unless the nanny state forces them to. I agree, parents should start taking responsibility, but if they don't its not the government's job. God, these nanny state fascist are getting on my nerves. If you can't get health care because your too fat (I can't because I have a pre-existing back injury) then tough. And I include myself in that...I'd rather have a free society than a "safe" society.

Mustard
09-04-2008, 02:18 AM
Why does the school have to tell the parents their kids are fat?

Shouldn't the parents already have a vague idea about the answer to that question?

Insomniac
09-04-2008, 02:48 AM
Breakdown of the British family.

Parents aren't talking to children's nannies to find out what their kids look like.

Archangel
09-04-2008, 06:09 AM
Our headmaster would summon the kids' parents, tell them their son was an idiot, and that he'd be removed from our school to make place for a more worthy candidate from the list. If they didn't want to deal with the fact that their boy was stupid, tough shit.


Ah, Jesuits.

Archangel
09-04-2008, 06:10 AM
And no, he never summoned mine.

Limp
09-04-2008, 07:05 AM
Summoned? Was he magic? Like that Dumbledor guy?

Mr. Brown
09-04-2008, 07:19 AM
Yeah but I think the point every-one's missing is government already is too involved in our lives. If I want to weigh 600lbs or 90lbs its non of their damned business. The easiest way to deal with it is stop this insane idea of public health care...Insurance companies aren't going to cover these kids when they get older unless the nanny state forces them to. I agree, parents should start taking responsibility, but if they don't its not the government's job. God, these nanny state fascist are getting on my nerves. If you can't get health care because your too fat (I can't because I have a pre-existing back injury) then tough. And I include myself in that...I'd rather have a free society than a "safe" society.

You can weight whatever you feel but then firefighters have to come and break down your door to save your fat ass during a fire b/c you haven't gotten of the bed in 3 years. For everyone like you saying that the insurance companies will not cover them, there will be those who are going to want everyone to be covered. If everyone is healthy it cuts that out. Shit people don't desire to be fat/obese.

Limp
09-04-2008, 07:30 AM
All this talk is making me want a double bacon cheeseburger with jalepenos.

Mr. Brown
09-04-2008, 08:05 AM
I could go for like 3 five guys burgers right about now.

OTiS
09-04-2008, 01:01 PM
I could go for like 3 five guys burgers right about now.
I don't know about anyone else, but that sounds like a gay thing.

Mr. Brown
09-04-2008, 01:06 PM
Upon further review the post is deemed to be sounding of the homosexual nature.

bpb
09-04-2008, 01:08 PM
All this talk is making me want a double bacon cheeseburger with jalepenos.

Time to go to Whataburger.

redsox39
09-04-2008, 01:08 PM
Link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2498072/Warnings-for-parents-of-fat-children.html)

This is an unbelievable story for several reasons. First, 15% of the parents objected to their children being weighed and measured? Human rights legislation prevents the schools from weighing kids?

Second, they are more concerned about calling kids fat or obese and 'stigmatizing' them than they are about getting these kids to be healthy and avoid being fat, sedentary, unhealthy adults.

Good for the Brits at least trying to do something, even if they have to tip-toe around landmines like parents objecting to their kids being weighed. I wish the U.S. would do this and be more pro-active. It's time to step on a few fat toes and get people to realize that our health care system, as bad as it is now, is going to be even worse when all these fat children become fat, diabetic adults, traveling around in those stupid little motorized carts.

2nd'd - good post

noahsdove
09-04-2008, 04:08 PM
Warnings for parents of fat children
Parents are to receive official letters telling them if their child has a weight problem under a Government crackdown on obesity, it has been announced.

has anyone seen the Bush twins lately? They are pushing max cap.

momsshizzle
09-05-2008, 11:01 AM
Good. If the parents aren't going to say anything, then have the schools do the parenting for them!

Area Man
09-07-2008, 10:13 PM
Good. If the parents aren't going to say anything, then have the schools do the parenting for them!

This is more and more become the role of schools. Teachers are left dealing with the problems of neglected and abused kids all the time. They're teaching kids about sex because the parents aren't picking up the ball. So why not try to tackle the obesity epidemic as well?

Morfin
09-08-2008, 01:43 PM
This is more and more become the role of schools. Teachers are left dealing with the problems of neglected and abused kids all the time. They're teaching kids about sex because the parents aren't picking up the ball. So why not try to tackle the obesity epidemic as well?

You've hit on the paradox: Parents aren't teaching the kids about these things, so the schools are. When the schools try to do things like this, the parents are suddenly in their face about the schools telling them how to raise their children.

Distortion
09-08-2008, 07:50 PM
I'm all for the government trying to promote good health and start initiatives help people be healthy, but i'm against it anytime when the government tries to regulate and force things in our personal lives. If they wanna start forcing health why don't they start with regulating the shit companies use in their food and how they cook it. It's a backward ass government that regulates people in order to help out businesses instead of regulating business to help out the people, who exactly is the governement suppose to be serving now the people or the companies that pay them?

Morfin
09-08-2008, 09:30 PM
All this program was doing was wieghing the kids and telling the parents -- no forcing them to do anything.

I agree about fast food. My son is in public middle school and you should see the crap that they feed the kids for "hot lunch." Schools should be examples showing how to eat correctly.

Okie Medicvet
09-08-2008, 09:37 PM
I don't have that problem, because

A) I live in the US not the UK.

B) My kids are skinny but they are on ME because I am too fat.

Which is kinda depressing, but if an average of only a 1 1/2 lbs a week in weight loss is what I am doing, well it still beats staying the same or not getting any fatter, even if it's only 12 lbs I have lost so far. meh.

Ghostrider
09-12-2008, 12:08 AM
The Truth hurts, deal with it

bdjlo09
09-12-2008, 04:43 AM
I think it's a good idea but the parents should be able to see about their kids themselves.