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TylerDurden
09-26-2008, 01:22 PM
I'm not really sure whether this belongs here or in the tech section, but as I've had a lot of experience with it lately I figured I'd go ahead and post up ways of making the PS3 a home media hub, options, configurations, techniques and random tips and tricks.

Mods, feel free to sticky if you want, else let it die. Whatev. I'm sure someone may find this info useful.

Replacing the Hard Drive
If you bothered to look at your PlayStation 3's user manual you might have noticed an entire section devoted to hard drive replacement. If you give a shit about warranties and all that garbage (if your PS3 is still even covered, depending on age) skip over this. The manual specifically states that tampering with the internal hard drive could void your warranty. With that said proceed at your own risk. So why would they include such a thing in your manual?

Sony put woefully inadequate hard drives into these systems. They had to. Had they put in what they wanted the PS3 would have been a $900 investment from the get-go. Smaller hard drives equals decreased cost to the consumer at system launch. But it's not enough. Those with 20GB PS3s and more than three games know exactly what I'm talking about. The games install a piece of themselves to improve load time, but with some of these games installing almost 5GB at a time space becomes a premium quickly. Sony knew this, but anticipated that by the time software companies began releasing games that really took advantage of the hard drive space most warranties would be expired. So they made the replacement of the hard drive so easy a blind chimp could do it. And they included instructions in every user manual.

So what's in a hard drive? Well, you can't just go slapping any ol' hard drive in there that you want. That'd be too easy. The PlayStation 3 is essentially a full-blooded computer with a proprietary user interface poured into a small form factor. Because space is at a premium inside the case Sony had to use the smallest possible components wherever possible. Hence the PlayStation 3 uses hard drives that are found in a vast majority of the modern household; those of laptops. To be precise the PlayStation 3 uses a Seagate 5400 RPM SATA hard drive in various capacities with 8 MB of overhead. There are really only two things important here: the hard drive spin speed (5400 RPM) and the interface type (SATA).

A quick search on eBay for laptop hard drives with a capacity of between 300-499 GB internal laptop hard drives yielded 656 results (http://computers.shop.ebay.com/items/300-499-GB__W0QQ_catrefZ1QQ_dmptZPCCQ5fDrivesQ5fStorageQ5f InternalQQ_flnZ1QQ_sacatZ158854QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec 0Q2em282?_trksid=p3286.c0.m282) as of the time of this post. Prices range from $40 - $120, but an average price to pay for a good internal 2.5" 320GB 5400 RPM laptop hard drive would be around $90 shipped. Amazon has similar pricing, so go with which ever one makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.

At the moment 320 GB is the maximum size supported by the PS3. It's not that it's a space limit, but rather that manufacturers aren't producing the hard drives in the exact dimensions needed. They're creating 2.5" hard drives alright, but the height of the drive exceeds the 9.5 mm height requirement that 99% of other laptop hard drives conform to. So it is possible to get a 500 GB internal laptop hard drive, but it's not going to fit inside the PS3's hard drive caddy. So for the moment 320 GB is the largest (and best bang for the buck, honestly) the PS3 can take. But don't fret. The wind will change, a month will pass, and someone else will announce they can create a 1 TB laptop hard drive that conforms to current size requirements.

To replace the hard drive is ridiculously simple. It's really further proof that Sony knew they would need to be replaced for capacity's sake.

1. After backing up any necessary files, game saves, etc. safely shut down the PS3 and disconnect all cables. Move the PS3 to an easily-accessible and spacious work area. A dining room table would be fine.

2. If the system has been running recently it's best to let it sit and cool down momentarily before continuing. These components are used to running hot; your hands are not used to touching hot components. You've been warned.

3. Facing the front of the PS3 look on the left side. Put another way: find the surface that the PS3 rests on if it stands up vertically. There's a small slightly curved panel about four inches long. On most systems it will be labeled "HDD". On the right side of this panel, just barely visible, is a very small indentation. A small screwdriver of butter knife would appear to fit perfectly. And they do. Press towards the opposite side with very little force. The small panel should bow out slightly and remove just as easily. You should not press against it hard enough to break the plastic.

4. With the cover removed a small blue screw should be visible as well as a tab that looks as though it were formed out of a paperclip. This will be hinged and folded flat against the surface it's attached to. With a small screwdriver place your opposite hand on the other end of the PS3 so as to brace against the force of pushing on the screw for the initial loosening. These tend to be slightly tight, so to prevent stripping the screw it's important to apply moderate force to the first counter-clockwise rotation with the screwdriver. Once you feel it loosen up you can let go of the other side and just unscrew normally. Do not put a stupid amount of pressure on this screw; only enough to keep your screwdriver from stripping the screw head.

5. Place the screw on a flat surface where it won't be lost. Using the small paperclip-like tab between thumb and forefinger gently nudge the hard drive assembly (what the tab is connected to) towards the front of the PS3. You'll feel it release slightly and you should be able to pull it out from the PS3. You're basically pulling the hard drive out sideways from the PS3. Keep this in mind as you do it. If it doesn't move moderately freely from the PS3 chassis it means it's still seated and not disconnected entirely. There should be about 1 - 5mm wiggle room for the assembly to move around and it shouldn't feel as though there's any resistance except against the small lip of the chassis (it's visible along the bottom and just in front of the assembly halfway across the opening). By pushing the assembly towards the front you're clearing this small lip and enabling it to be pulled out.

6. Once the assembly is removed it's time to remove the hard drive from its caddy. There are four screws along the outside edge of the caddy holding the hard drive in. Briefly take note of which side is which. The hard drive should be label-side up to the open air. If you flip it over you should see the actual meat and potatoes (green circuit board, spindle, etc.) of the hard drive protected by the bottom of the caddy (it has holes drilled through it for heat dissipation and air flow). After removing the four screws the old hard drive should slip quite easily from the caddy. Put it aside.

7. Pick up the new hard drive and place it into the caddy as the previous one had been; label-side up, pin-side facing out of the open side of the caddy, gut-side facing down against the meshed side of the caddy. On one side of the caddy there are slot holes, or holes that are variable in where they accept the screws. On the other are more precise single holes. Insert the screws here first. Then to the slotted side.

8. Reinstallation into the PS3 is reversed. Slide it back in gently and seat it by using the paperclip tab to push the assembly towards the back of the PS3. If you've done it correctly you'll see that the assembly's lined up perfectly to accept the small blue screw. Screw that in now. Don't over-tighten it. Hand tight will do it.

9. Reapply the small plastic cover.

10. Put your PS3 back in its original home, plug in the cables and boot up the system. It's going to tell you that it needs to format the new hard drive. Follow along with these prompts until you're finally back at the XMB. Restore your game saves and any files.

Note: If you look at your system information and the capacity seems a little low (I think mine said 296GB after I did this) it's normal. The PS3 requires this space.

Check back on this thread shortly. I'll be writing more, specifically on media serving (TVersity and Windows Media Player) and file transfers. In the mean time... enjoy.

TylerDurden
09-26-2008, 01:38 PM
Replacing the Hard Drive, FAQ
Q: Can I put a 7200 RPM laptop hard drive in the PS3?
A: Yes and no. Yes in that it's possible. They make 2.5", 9.5mm tall laptop hard drives that spin at 7200 RPM. But no in that it's not going to net any significant performance gains. Whether this is by design and the firmware limits all hard drives to 5400 RPM or not, the only area of improvement will be file transfers and only in a negligible way. Nothing seriously awesome to warrant the increase in price.

Q: As for manufacturers what do you recommend?
A: I put a Western Digital Scorpio WD3200BEVT 320GB hard drive in mine. I've had no problems. To be honest I haven't heard any complaints from anyone with regards to any hard drive. Obviously watch out for latency and seek times (most sites will display this). The WD I used has an average latency of 4.2ms and a read seek time of 12ms. Those values are typical for a good, solid 2.5" laptop drive.

Q: What about all of my PS3 system updates?
A: Don't worry. Those will still be there. The system updates are to the PS3's firmware, and as such aren't stored on the hard drive.

Q: How do I backup my game saves and why don't some of them backup like they should?
A: As for how: Google is your friend. As for the other: some games cannot be backed up using the PS3's included utility. One of the Need for Speed games will only back itself up if you do an entire system backup. Generally, though, this isn't necessary and a simple saved game backup (Google that shit, bitch) will suffice.

Q: Where can I get a laptop hard drive?
A: Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1222454669/ref=sr_nr_p_hard_disk_rotation_3?ie=UTF8&rs=595046&bbn=595046&rnid=106218011&rh=n:541966,n:172455,n:172476,n:172483,n:595046,p_ hard_disk_rotational_speed:5400), eBay (http://computers.shop.ebay.com/items/300-499-GB__W0QQ_sacatZ158854?_npmv=3), TigerDirect (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=2676&name=2.5-SATA-Drive), and NewEgg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150380%201035915133&name=SATA%203.0Gb/s) all have what you're looking for for a good price.

exsterminator
09-30-2008, 06:30 PM
This is brilliant info, would like to see more of it, especially the processes and applications you need to turn the PS3 into a hub. Big fan of the clarity of directions and description - thanks

TylerDurden
10-09-2008, 12:41 PM
Media: How to Get It to the PS3
So you've got the hard drive installed. It's new, shiny, huge, and... empty. You bought it for a reason, right? You could do as I've done and move every MP3 you have in your possession to the PS3's hard drive. You could also completely eliminate your physical DVD collection and gain a bit better quality at the same time. You could do both of these things and still have enough hard drive space left to install the vast amount of games available to the PS3. I mean, c'mon, that's why you bought the hard drive. Right?

So where to start?

Music and Audio
I initially had issues with this, and I reached a very sad conclusion before I figured out how to get around it. To start with... I'm a bit anal about my music. The filenames, ID3 tags, album art, folder structure... it all has to be populated and accurate. If I don't I know that my hard drive will be a fucking mess later on. I've experimented with a number of ID3-tagging and file-renaming programs over the years with mixed results. When I bought my PS3 I attempted to move a few MP3s over via thumb drive (a 4GB thumb drive is about $20 at Wal-Mart right now) and was told that the format was unrecognized. The fuck? Further examination and Google-ninja skill demonstrations passed and I stumbled on to only one theory, and it was that Windows Media Player alters MP3s. Odd. To either prove or disprove this I rolled on into the File Sharing forum and grabbed a random Audioslave album. Without my usual anal retentiveness I immediately threw the files into the PS3. They played. Now, I'm pissed. I slowly realize my entire MP3 collection is for shit if I want it played from the PS3's virgin hard drive. Was it Windows Media Player? It's possible with Microsoft's gay, faggoty love for Digital Rights Management. Could it have been one of the ID3-tagging or file-renaming softwares? That's a much more likely culprit, but no solid proof there, either. The solution?

The PS3 reads ID3 tags, which are great for MP3s and WMAs, but since they're not adopted by Apple for the Jerry's Kid-esque iTunes format you'll have to fill the details in by-hand once the file makes it to the PS3. And let me tell you: it's slow-fucking-going. For everything else I highly recommend the newest release of WinAmp. Most of you, I'm sure, have already been using this for music playing, but for those who experience the issues that I have... just use WinAmp. It handles (obviously) music playing but is actually quite a robust tag editor as well.

The PS3 handles the following audio formats:
- ATRAC (.oma .msa .aa3)
- AAC (.3gp .mp4)
- MP3 (.mp3)
- WAV (.wav)
- iTunes (.m4a), though most info sites don't state this

Movies and Video
After I'd re-acquired, tagged, and transferred my collection of music to the PS3 I took stock of my used hard drive space... 3GB. Pfft. I can do better than that. I began thinking of useful things to put on the PlayStation. And what I came up with was this...

I have a six-year-old son. He loves games, he loves movies, but he won't have a job for another ten years, so if he bricks the PS3 while trying to stuff five discs into its slot-load drive I'm out $400. Me and the lady often sleep in on weekends, and the child process is content with cartoons or movies. So why not make his job easier, my wallet a bit heavier with more money, and my sanity intact by putting his favorite movies onto the hard drive?

There are two methods to doing this, and each method is dependent upon the source of the movie. If you have the file already on your computer's hard drive you'll want to go out and grab Red Kawa's awesome (and free!) PS3 Video 9 (http://www.redkawa.com/videoconverters/ps3video9/). The interface is stupidly simple and easy to use. More on that in a minute, though. If you're looking to downgrade the size of your DVD collection while waiting for the price of Blu-Ray to drop or the selection to rise (like I am) you'll need a different solution. 4Media's DVD to PS3 Converter (http://www.mp4converter.net/dvd-to-ps3-converter-win.html) is literally a one-step process that converts your DVD into the MP4 format that the PS3 needs. The only downside here is that it's not free, but it is worth the $30 you shell out for it.

The PS3 handles the following video formats...
- MPEG-1
- MPEG-2 (PS,TS)
- H.264/MEPG-4 AVC
- MPEG-4 SP

Using Red Kawa's PS3 Video 9...
- After opening the software, click the "Convert" button at the top.
- This starts the conversion wizard. The first step is to select the file you wish to convert. Click the "Browse..." button at the bottom of the window.
- Navigate to your selected file (I haven't ran into a format that it doesn't handle).
- The wizard will automatically move to the next screen where you control the desired quality levels. The higher you make the converted quality, the longer the conversion will take. I always max out the conversion quality and it takes roughly 8 - 9 hours for a typical 2-hour movie.
- Click "Next"
- You will be prompted to name the output file (must adhere to Windows naming conventions; no special characters, etc.) if you wish. After doing so click "Convert".
- You will be delivered to the "Current Conversion" tab. Note that to the left of that tab is the "VideoWizard" tab. Feel free to click this immediately to queue up another conversion.

While I'm at work I usually am able to either convet an entire movie, or a large number of music videos, television episodes, etc. It does not eat a sufficient amount of processing power that you can't still do simple tasks like browse the web or listen to music simultaneously (unless your laptop just fails at life).

Using 4Media's DVD to PS3 Converter...
- After opening the software and the DVD into your computer's DVD-enabled drive, click the DVD icon.
- Select your DVD drive from the My Computer dialog window.
- The converter will now read the DVD and output a list of chapters from the DVD to the software. If you wish to have chapter control click the very top checkbox in the list... it will checkmark all items. Note that this will create a different file for every chapter. If you do not wish to have chapter control (I want a tidy interface, thus only one file) look for the item with the longest time duration. Sometimes this is labeled as the movie's name (it will be the only one), and othertimes it'll look like another chapter. No matter what, however, under the chapters column it will display the total number of chapters as well as the official duration of the movie. This is the one you want to checkmark, leaving all other items blank.
- On the right-hand side of the window you'll notice quality settings, and towards the top audio and language settings. Set these accordingly. I usually always select audio and video quality as "Higher" for both.
- Double-check your folder output settings (located along the bottom) and click the Convert button (a green circle).
- Get up and walk away. This is going to take a while and a good portion of your computer's resources. On a quick computer a 2-1/2 hour movie can be ripped in about 10 hours. I have a server that I use for this task so that my and my lady's laptops can still be used for whatever.

There are other software out there for this, but these are the simplest (requires one step for each task) and fastest (I think) methods. For most ripped video files you'll need a 4GB thumb drive to transfer to the PS3.

Placement and Organization
After putting your music or video onto a thumb drive it's okay to put it into the PS3's front-mounted USB ports. The PS3 should automatically recognize the drive and apply the External Media icon to the correct areas of the XMB.

For music and audio...
- Scroll to the Audio section of the XMB.
- Scroll up to the USB drive and press Triangle.
- Scroll down the submenu to View Folders.
- If you've organized your music into artist folders on the thumb drive you should see them. Otherwise you'll see whichever hierarchy is applicable.
- Select the first item and press Triangle.
- Select "Copy".
- Repeat as necessary.

For movies and video...
- Scroll to the Video section of the XMB.
- Scroll up to the USB drive and press Triangle.
- Scroll down the submenu to View Folders.
- If you've organized your videos into folders on the thumb drive you should see them. Otherwise you'll see whichever hierarchy is applicable.
- Select the first item and press Triangle.
- Select "Copy".
- Repeat as necessary.

Sorting...
Sorting files and folders on the PS3 is probably the most tedious of tasks. You get one level of folders and myriad sorting options. Pressing Square while in the media sections automatically cycles the sorting method (i.e. artist, album, song, genre in Audio) and those properties can be edited by selecting the item, pressing Triangle and selecting Properties. The same holds true for video, though the sorting isn't quite so robust. I've basically gone into each movie's properties and changed its folder to its genre, then pressed Square until my hierarchy appears.

Kerjack
10-09-2008, 12:47 PM
I'd like to add one thing on the trouble shooting side I discovered yesterday:

If you happen to have one of a few models of Linksys routers you may experience network trouble as long as either Media Server and/or UPnP is enabled on the PS3. This seems to only be the case with the latest update from Sony though. Hopefully they will fix it soon. Took me all day yesterday to figure out why Little Big Planet wasn't working right (and why all my PC's would lose thier connection everytime the PS3 tried to access the network)

TylerDurden
10-09-2008, 12:49 PM
I'd like to add one thing on the trouble shooting side I discovered yesterday:

If you happen to have one of a few models of Linksys routers you may experience network trouble as long as either Media Server and/or UPnP is enabled on the PS3. This seems to only be the case with the latest update from Sony though. Hopefully they will fix it soon. Took me all day yesterday to figure out why Little Big Planet wasn't working right (and why all my PC's would lose thier connection everytime the PS3 tried to access the network)

ah, yes, the only problem here is that for tversity upnp must be enabled on your router or it won't work correctly. but yeah, every time i was rocking the ps3 online i'd lose connectivity on my laptop.

ShitBreak
10-09-2008, 12:49 PM
Wait...what?

Ever since I have had my PS3...every time I turn it on, or come out of a game, etc., my labtop loses it's connection (everything is running through a linksys).

How do I fix that? I have both the PS3 and laptop on wireless.

Kerjack
10-09-2008, 12:54 PM
If you don't stream media to the PS3 try either disabling UPnP in the router or and this is what I'd recommend especially if you have a Xbox360 or other to stream to, disable it and possibly Media Sharing on the PS3 itself. Should be in the network settings.

ShitBreak
10-09-2008, 01:00 PM
If you don't stream media to the PS3 try either disabling UPnP in the router or and this is what I'd recommend especially if you have a Xbox360 or other to stream to, disable it and possibly Media Sharing on the PS3 itself. Should be in the network settings.

I use my labby/PS3 to stream media on a regular basis though. Music and movies mainly.

Would physically plugging in the PS3 to the router make a difference, instead of having it wireless?

TylerDurden
10-09-2008, 01:02 PM
no. upnp must be disabled or the ps3 must disable the media sharing.

ShitBreak
10-09-2008, 01:07 PM
so basically, if I want to keep media sharing going, I'm screwed.

Ah well. I've just learned to not have anything downloading on my PC when I turn the PS3 on. The connection only goes down for like...30 seconds or something. Not a BIG deal.

Gary_Busey
12-17-2008, 11:53 PM
Any suggestions on a program that could compress an MKV or VOB down so it'll be under 4GB without much of a quality loss?

Skybase
12-18-2008, 12:13 AM
I've seen some proggies out there claiming to do it but none have worked thus far. I just downloaded what seems to be an excellent FREE conversion program that works with almost any file type. (both ways) Haven't tried MKV yet. VOB I know it says it'll do.

The program is simply called "SUPER". I don't have a direct link offhand but it looks to make this process as simple as Gordian Knot for DivX did back in the day.

Gary_Busey
12-18-2008, 12:15 AM
Well, I use mkv2vob and it works perfectly, except for compression, which it doesn't do. Does SUPER compress files to fit certain file sizes?

Skybase
12-18-2008, 12:18 AM
I used that on TDK, however it moved all of the center channel audio to the right channel and shrunk the screen-size down from full-screen. Probably something I'd had set. Not sure if it compresses files. I know that it can cut them at certain filesizes. Just got it recently and haven't played with it a heck of a lot.

Gary_Busey
12-18-2008, 12:23 AM
Yeah, mkv2vob does that, which actually works out sometimes, because it'll cut off the credits, which I don't give a shit if the credits are cut.