Hispanics > Blacks sez New Mexico GOP Chariman

[dadaelus]

From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7639111.stm)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7639111.stm



Republican quits in Hispanic row


Mr de Baca said he was referring to the older generation of Hispanics

A Republican official in the US has resigned over comments he made to the BBC that "Hispanics consider themselves above blacks".

Fernando de Baca, the chairman of the Republican Party in Bernalillo County, New Mexico, also said Hispanics "won't vote for a black president".

Mr de Baca spoke last week but resisted calls from his own party to resign, saying he was quoted out of context.

He said he decided to step down because of the "media circus" that developed.

Mr de Baca had been approached by the BBC's Jon Kelly for comments on the presidential election campaign at the New Mexico State Fair in Albuquerque, part of Bernalillo County.

He was explaining why he thought John McCain would do well in the state, which has large population of Hispanics.

"The truth is that Hispanics came here as conquerors. African-Americans came here as slaves."

He said the Latino emphasis on hard work and family values and the Catholic Church's opposition to abortion made the community naturally conservative.

The remarks appeared on the BBC News website on its Talking America blog.

After calls grew for his resignation, he said the comments were taken out of context and that he was referring to views held by the older generation of Hispanics.

"Snippets were used to try and embarrass me," Mr de Baca, 70, told the Associated Press (AP) news agency.

He said a "media circus" had developed that was obscuring the election issues.

"It's time to step aside and let the candidates and the political races that are so important to this country and democracy be placed in focus," he told AP.

[Insomniac]

"The truth is that Hispanics came here as conquerors. African-Americans came here as slaves."

Can't argue with that logic.

[nitz]

There are a TON of really stupid people out there.

[Hanover Fist]

There are a TON of really stupid people out there.

Yeah but at 150-200 pounds each thats only like 10-15 people, or like Face and Sink.

[nitz]

Yeah but at 150-200 pounds each thats only like 10-15 people, or like Face and Sink.

good call

[Mustard]

5 in my case. Good thing I'm not stupid.

[Archangel]

I thought the SPANISH went there as conquerors.

If I'm not mistaken, HISPANICS are the children of the indigenous people that got pwnt and raped.

So this gentleman needs to check his history.

[Insomniac]

In New Mexico, there are still people who consider themselves Spanish, just like there are still Indians. Probably more Mexicans live there than so-called Spaniards, but the chicano movement never really caught on in New Mexico.

[kid_vidrio]

They have spanish names, and they speak spanish, but beyond that? I have lived over half my life in the SW (I'm sorry to say) and 'above anyone' or 'conquerors' they ain't.
Funny shite.
What's even funnier is it coming from Bernalillo. What a shit hole, once you're past the whole 'land of enchantment' thing.

[taters]

Hispanics came as conquerors? No, white spaniards came as conquerors. Hispanics came when the conquerors raped the women of the conquered. They also raped the slaves, and produced other hispanics (cubans, puerto ricans, mulattos). So I guess you could just as easily say, blacks came as rape victims, Hispanics came as rape offspring, and Spaniards came as rapist.

Technically, you could say africans came as slaves, and hispanics came as illegitimate children of syphlatic conquered people. Slaves or bastards, both raped, take your pick?

[Archangel]

Hispanics came as conquerors? No, white spaniards came as conquerors. Hispanics came when the conquerors raped the women of the conquered. They also raped the slaves, and produced other hispanics (cubans, puerto ricans, mulattos). So I guess you could just as easily say, blacks came as rape victims, Hispanics came as rape offspring, and Spaniards came as rapist.

Technically, you could say africans came as slaves, and hispanics came as illegitimate children of syphlatic conquered people. Slaves or bastards, both raped, take your pick?
Ahem.
I thought the SPANISH went there as conquerors.

If I'm not mistaken, HISPANICS are the children of the indigenous people that got pwnt and raped.

So this gentleman needs to check his history.

[taters]

^ Credit due, I did not read that first.

[Claydon]

My grandfather was from spain, hence I have a spanish last name, but living in california everyone thinks im a fucking mexican.

[Archangel]

Yeah, hardly surprising, since you look every bit the Latin macho.

[taters]

Change your last name if its such a problem. Most american names are from the same basic root Germanic or latin names/phrases anyway.

[Rover]

I thought the SPANISH went there as conquerors.

If I'm not mistaken, HISPANICS are the children of the indigenous people that got pwnt and raped.

So this gentleman needs to check his history.It's so confusing. I hate race labels. At the risk of over generalizing, I think it's safe to say that all Latinos are Hispanic, but not all Hispanics are Latino. Of course this ignores lots of idigenous peoples that are Latino, but are most definitely not Hispanic.

Then to add further confusion the US census currently defines Hispanic as, "a person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race". However, this doesn't mean the same thing when race is used as a determining factor. Because white people whose ancestors come from Spain and have essentially stayed "white" are not entitled to the same benefits as a "non-white Hispanic."

Someday MLK, someday, we'll be judged on the content of our character, until then we can debate the differences between Hispanics and Latinos.

[Okie Medicvet]

I thought the SPANISH went there as conquerors.

If I'm not mistaken, HISPANICS are the children of the indigenous people that got pwnt and raped.

So this gentleman needs to check his history.

beat me to it!

[Oleg]

In Canada we don't have Hispanics, and our black people are pretty white, so it's all the same to us. We do, however, have a lot of drunken Indians.

[Stax]

Just what Republicans want, pissing off a large voting bloc in a formerly Red battleground state.

[Da Raider]

If you are Hispanic people assume your background based on where you live. In the SW, you are presumed to be Mexican. In the SE, Cuban. In the North East, PR. Not sure about the midwest...

[Swurgen]

There are a TON of really stupid people out there.

He's 70 year old. He's not from this horseshit everything must be politically correct mtv generation. You're lucky he didn't say what he really felt about the issue.

[hatepoppy]

If you are Hispanic people assume your background based on where you live. In the SW, you are presumed to be Mexican. In the SE, Cuban. In the North East, PR. Not sure about the midwest...
******s.