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The GWD
10-03-2008, 02:05 AM
I just wanted to clear up any doubts you people may have had questioning the validity and depth of my pathetic nerdiness. What do I think about most of my free time and while I'm at work? Star Wars. Why the fuck not? Fuck you people and your lives.
The Softlight Side of the force
People using the force need to stop treating it like fucking alcohol. They go to one extreme or the other. Be a sith, and be pissed off all the time for no real reason, have red glowing eyes, and plot to kill your master/apprentice. OR, be a jedi and don't get pussy, and try your best to never, ever get angry. Because THEN you'd be a sith! It's like alcohol, the force is best used in moderation. How did Luke defeat Darth Vader? By getting totally pissed off and just beating his old mechanic ass down. Obi-Wan was TOTALLY mad when he killed Darth Maul. When Luke sets up the New Republic, his biggest mistake is modeling his jedi training exactly like the old. Why do Jedi have to be so goddamn benevolent? They're like galaxy police. If the police in our society were like Jedi in the SW universe, crack dealers would have overthrown us like, long ago. Yeah, set up jedi stations in each city and everything would be cool. There'd probably be Rodney King incidents, though. A group of asshole Jedis (at least one Skywalker) throwing around a tusken raider excessively with the force. Anyway, where was I? Does it matter? Do you like me?
The Ponda Blood Theory
As you may or may not know, Ponda Baba is the ass-chinned monster in the Mos Eisley cantina that Obi-Wan owned for pulling out a blaster on Luke. You see his dismembered arm, and there is some awesome blood flowage. But wait, blood? In The Empire Strikes Back when Vader cuts off Luke's hand, there's no blood. Obviously due to the lightsaber's extreme heat, it automatically cauterizes the wound. This is again demonstrated when Obi-Wan slices Maul in half, when Count Dookie cuts off Anakin's hand, etc. So, the question you ask yourself (and I know you do, I know it keeps you up nights) is why did Ponda bleed? An oversight from George Lucas? NO!! George Lucas doesn't make mistakes! Obviously Ponda's blood is impervious to heat. All liquid should evaporate when enough heat is applied, except magma. That's right, Ponda's blood is actually hot fucking lava. Relevance in terms to how you'll live your life from now on? None.
Bastard
10-03-2008, 02:11 AM
I just wanted to clear up any doubts you people may have had questioning the validity and depth of my pathetic nerdiness. What do I think about most of my free time and while I'm at work? Star Wars. Why the fuck not? Fuck you people and your lives.
The Softlight Side of the force
People using the force need to stop treating it like fucking alcohol. They go to one extreme or the other. Be a sith, and be pissed off all the time for no real reason, have red glowing eyes, and plot to kill your master/apprentice. OR, be a jedi and don't get pussy, and try your best to never, ever get angry. Because THEN you'd be a sith! It's like alcohol, the force is best used in moderation. How did Luke defeat Darth Vader? By getting totally pissed off and just beating his old mechanic ass down. Obi-Wan was TOTALLY mad when he killed Darth Maul. When Luke sets up the New Republic, his biggest mistake is modeling his jedi training exactly like the old. Why do Jedi have to be so goddamn benevolent? They're like galaxy police. If the police in our society were like Jedi in the SW universe, crack dealers would have overthrown us like, long ago. Yeah, set up jedi stations in each city and everything would be cool. There'd probably be Rodney King incidents, though. A group of asshole Jedis (at least one Skywalker) throwing around a tusken raider excessively with the force. Anyway, where was I? Does it matter? Do you like me?
The Ponda Blood Theory
As you may or may not know, Ponda Baba is the ass-chinned monster in the Mos Eisley cantina that Obi-Wan owned for pulling out a blaster on Luke. You see his dismembered arm, and there is some awesome blood flowage. But wait, blood? In The Empire Strikes Back when Vader cuts off Luke's hand, there's no blood. Obviously due to the lightsaber's extreme heat, it automatically cauterizes the wound. This is again demonstrated when Obi-Wan slices Maul in half, when Count Dookie cuts off Anakin's hand, etc. So, the question you ask yourself (and I know you do, I know it keeps you up nights) is why did Ponda bleed? An oversight from George Lucas? NO!! George Lucas doesn't make mistakes! Obviously Ponda's blood is impervious to heat. All liquid should evaporate when enough heat is applied, except magma. That's right, Ponda's blood is actually hot fucking lava. Relevance in terms to how you'll live your life from now on? None.
I like you man despite your hatred for carrot cake.
Archetype
10-03-2008, 02:14 AM
Our polices don't have the force, though.
sure they do, its called excessive force
Snatch
10-03-2008, 03:02 AM
How the fuck did Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen age like 40 years in 25 years?
Monster Joe
10-03-2008, 03:03 AM
Didn't Luke loosen the rules for Jedi life when he set up the new order? Thought I'd heard something like that.
The GWD
10-03-2008, 03:04 AM
It's hard out there for a moisture farming pimp.
Edit: to snatch.
The GWD
10-03-2008, 03:08 AM
Didn't Luke loosen the rules for Jedi life when he set up the new order? Thought I'd heard something like that.
He's an asshole for setting up any kind of Jedi Academy. Motherfucker had like 5 hours of training.
Bastard
10-03-2008, 03:09 AM
Ewoks, why? Were they thinking it was actually a good idea or did they just figure out something to do with leftover wookiee costumes?
Monster Joe
10-03-2008, 03:11 AM
But he was the last one to pass on the knowledge he had, plus it's not about the length of your training, but the depth of your wisdom.
The GWD
10-03-2008, 03:14 AM
But he was the last one to pass on the knowledge he had, plus it's not about the length of your training, but the depth of your wisdom.
He was always pretty unwise. After pwning Vader what's he do in the face of the most powerful sith lord, Palpatine? Throw his lightsaber away. What a douche, he deserved to fry.
I didn't read any of this. I clicked this thread and immediately I felt a pressure on my asshole like there was something trying to penetrate and had to run. I ran REALLY fast.
That's how gay this thread is.
Archangel
10-03-2008, 03:51 AM
When the fuck did Artoo forget how to fly?
And why doesn't Exar Kun have a "Darth" in his name?
How the hell would a military genius like Mitth'raw'nuruodo fully trust his Noghri bodyguards, and not have a fail-safe in case they became wise to the Empire's ruse?
Why are there no Dreadnaughts, Victory-class star destroyers, or Z-95 Headhunters shown in the depictions of the Clone Wars?
Those are the questions that plague me.
The GWD
10-03-2008, 03:52 AM
I didn't read any of this. I clicked this thread and immediately I felt a pressure on my asshole like there was something trying to penetrate and had to run. I ran REALLY fast.
That's how gay this thread is.
You felt pressure on your asshole, but stayed long enough to post this dreck? You must love that asshole pressure.
janois
10-03-2008, 03:54 AM
I didn't read any of this. I clicked this thread and immediately I felt a pressure on my asshole like there was something trying to penetrate and had to run. I ran REALLY fast.
That's how gay this thread is.
I sense much anger in you.
You felt pressure on your asshole, but stayed long enough to post this dreck? You must love that asshole pressure.
I type Jedi fast.
Archangel
10-03-2008, 04:01 AM
Oh yeah, how the fuck did the Empire need 20 years to build the first Death Star, and then built one twice as big in only three years?
The GWD
10-03-2008, 04:03 AM
When the fuck did Artoo forget how to fly?
And why doesn't Exar Kun have a "Darth" in his name?
How the hell would a military genius like Mitth'raw'nuruodo fully trust his Noghri bodyguards, and not have a fail-safe in case they became wise to the Empire's ruse?
Why are there no Dreadnaughts, Victory-class star destroyers, or Z-95 Headhunters shown in the depictions of the Clone Wars?
Those are the questions that plague me.
R2-D2's flying circuits are cut out by the jawas in a New Hope in an effort to keep the droid from flying off their sandcrawler. That's just...my interpretation.
Exar Kun was a fuckin' rogue. He never really had a Sith Master, just some old sith spirit trying to boss his shit around. He said, "Fuck you spirit" and decided against a traditional "Darth" name.
When you're talking about Mitth'raw'nuruodo, are you talking about Grand Admiral Thrawn? 'Cause that's military genius with noghri bodyguards. If so, then he did have a fail-safe in the form of a dormant clone in a cave somewhere. But Luke foiled that shit. EDIT: And I just looked up that Mitth'raw'nuruodo IS Grand Admiral Thrawn. Whoopsie. I feel so silly right now!
And I don't know why they don't utilize a ton of shit they made up in the Star Wars universe in the movies. Maybe just because it only looks cool in a video game, or a cartoon.
Archangel
10-03-2008, 04:05 AM
And if the Death Star was designed to be the ultimate intimidator, basically rendering the Imperial Fleet obsolete, why waste manpower and resources on building a fleet of 11-mile-long Super Star Destroyers?
Archangel
10-03-2008, 04:10 AM
Especially considering the fact that the Empire and Kuat Drive Yards weren't exactly the friendliest of allies.
The GWD
10-03-2008, 04:12 AM
Oh yeah, how the fuck did the Empire need 20 years to build the first Death Star, and then built one twice as big in only three years?
The first one they were working on at a steady pace. They didn't have any real threats that Vader couldn't handle. The second one's a quick attempt by the emperor to try and destroy all his adversaries, so he intimidated everyone to do a quick job.
And if the Death Star was designed to be the ultimate intimidator, basically rendering the Imperial Fleet obsolete, why waste manpower and resources on building a fleet of 11-mile-long Super Star Destroyers?
Slave labor, man. The empire enslaves entire races (like wookies) to do all their work. When you have more slaves than you know what to do with, you just go crazy. Trust me. So it actually makes the conversation in Clerks worse. When they destroyed the second death star, it wasn't independent contractors workingon it. It was a bunch of fluffy wookies being fed scraps all their lives only to be rewarded with a big "Fuck You!" from Lando.
Archangel
10-03-2008, 04:37 AM
While we're on the subjest of the second Death Star, how the fuck were the Bothans under Borsk Fey'lya able to gain political capital from the death of the Bothan spies who obtained its location, WHEN EVERYBODY IN THE REBEL FLEET KNEW THAT IT WAS A FUCKING TRAP which, if not for the one in a million event of Vader returning to the Light Side, would have resulted in the total defeat of the Rebel Alliance?
Archangel
10-03-2008, 04:50 AM
And one last thing.
Jacen.
Honestly. One would think that Luke would keep a closer eye on him. I mean, a Skywalker turning into a Sith Lord (Lord? Of whom, anyway? If there are only two of them, where are the Sith Subjects?)? Unheard of, right?
The GWD
10-03-2008, 04:51 AM
And one last thing.
Jacen.
Honestly. One would think that Luke would keep a closer eye on him. I mean, a Skywalker turning into a Sith Lord (Lord? Of whom, anyway? If there are only two of them, where are the Sith Subjects?)? Unheard of, right?
...Isn't Jacen a Solo? Luke probably thought that Han could keep an eye on his own kid.
Archangel
10-03-2008, 04:53 AM
Well, Han isn't a Jedi. Leia never got around to training (funny, because it took like 3 days of training for Luke - she's gotta have a busy schedule), so maybe his Jedi uncle could check on him from time to time to see if there's any sithness showing.
The GWD
10-03-2008, 04:58 AM
Well, Han isn't a Jedi. Leia never got around to training (funny, because it took like 3 days of training for Luke - she's gotta have a busy schedule), so maybe his Jedi uncle could check on him from time to time to see if there's any sithness showing.
Leia's an odd sort of person isn't she? She always knew that Luke was her brother, yet found it completely acceptable to smooch him in Empire. You'd think she would at least be able to sense evil in her child. The sith are pretty good at corrupting Jedi minds, though. I mean if the emperor can keep his agenda hidden from every jedi on the counsel, then maybe Jacen can keep a secret from uncle Trained with Yoda for a whole day.
Oggie
10-03-2008, 07:10 AM
This should be in the Philosophy Forum!
Archangel
10-03-2008, 08:00 AM
Becoming a Jedi appears to require about the same qualifications as becoming a Republican VP nominee.
}{arlequin
10-03-2008, 08:04 AM
where is all this extraneous material that's being discussed coming from?
Oggie
10-03-2008, 08:27 AM
If you don't know, you don't belong in this thread.
}{arlequin
10-03-2008, 08:36 AM
but I AM ready for my training!
tell him, ben.
Archangel
10-03-2008, 08:43 AM
where is all this extraneous material that's being discussed coming from?
READ. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanded_Universe_(Star_Wars))
VoxAngelikus
10-03-2008, 08:55 AM
If Thrawn's clone had woken up 10 years in the future and he jerked himself off, would that be considered cheating on himself?
Black_Sun
10-03-2008, 08:56 AM
The Ponda Blood Theory
As you may or may not know, Ponda Baba is the ass-chinned monster in the Mos Eisley cantina that Obi-Wan owned for pulling out a blaster on Luke. You see his dismembered arm, and there is some awesome blood flowage. But wait, blood? In The Empire Strikes Back when Vader cuts off Luke's hand, there's no blood. Obviously due to the lightsaber's extreme heat, it automatically cauterizes the wound. This is again demonstrated when Obi-Wan slices Maul in half, when Count Dookie cuts off Anakin's hand, etc. So, the question you ask yourself (and I know you do, I know it keeps you up nights) is why did Ponda bleed? An oversight from George Lucas? NO!! George Lucas doesn't make mistakes! Obviously Ponda's blood is impervious to heat. All liquid should evaporate when enough heat is applied, except magma. That's right, Ponda's blood is actually hot fucking lava. Relevance in terms to how you'll live your life from now on? None.I could swear that when Obi-Wan slices Maul in half we see a spray of blood when it happens.
How the fuck did Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen age like 40 years in 25 years?2 suns, and no spf 5,000
And one last thing.
Jacen.
Honestly. One would think that Luke would keep a closer eye on him. I mean, a Skywalker turning into a Sith Lord (Lord? Of whom, anyway? If there are only two of them, where are the Sith Subjects?)? Unheard of, right?Jacen is a Solo. As for the title Lord, The ancient Sith ruled over an enslaved race of people on Yavin 4... known as the Sith.
Well, Han isn't a Jedi. Leia never got around to training (funny, because it took like 3 days of training for Luke - she's gotta have a busy schedule), so maybe his Jedi uncle could check on him from time to time to see if there's any sithness showing.
Leia becomes a trained Jedi, but she doesn't get around to it until her 60's. Read the Legacy of the Force series of books.
Archangel
10-03-2008, 09:00 AM
Quiet, Xizor.
Snatch
10-03-2008, 10:43 AM
Why doesn't Qui-Gon disappear?
I wonder what the average human lifespan is in the Star Wars universe. Darth Vader should've been about 45 in Return of the Jedi. Is that what 45 year olds look like?
The emperor really has better things to do than to watch Alderaan get blown the fuck up?
Is there any sort of media in the Star Wars universe? I would think that if the government was BLOWING PLANETS UP, that would do a whole lot of good for the Rebel cause.
Archetype
10-03-2008, 01:21 PM
Ewoks, why? Were they thinking it was actually a good idea or did they just figure out something to do with leftover wookiee costumes?
Hey, don't mess with my childhood, man. I grew up on Ewoks.
Will-Kill
10-03-2008, 03:43 PM
I did see blood when maul got cut,
the reason why death star 2 blew up: mexican labor aka wookies.
Soup Nazi
10-03-2008, 05:56 PM
I think we all know why the first death star took so long to build......union labor! Opening days for the Empire, still probably hadn't completely squashed the local labor unions, so everyone was working 30 hour weeks, little overtime, caps on # of workers, long lunch/smoking breaks, probably some mob ties that screwed over labor costs. Probably went waaaaaay over budget as well. Emperor's approval ratings probably hit all-time lows among fiscal conservatives.
But speaking of the 1st death star, if the Rebels were able to find its weakness in a matter of hours, how come the Empire didn't realize their own mistake, and maybe, I don't know, fortify the fucking exhaust port a little bit more?
Archangel
10-03-2008, 06:49 PM
I wonder what the average human lifespan is in the Star Wars universe. Darth Vader should've been about 45 in Return of the Jedi. Is that what 45 year olds look like?
45-year-olds who have been cut to shit, bathed in lava, and rebuilt as a cyborg, maybe.
Is there any sort of media in the Star Wars universe? I would think that if the government was BLOWING PLANETS UP, that would do a whole lot of good for the Rebel cause.
Yeah, not like propaganda can spin shit, or anything.
The GWD
10-03-2008, 07:10 PM
The empire did choose the right planet to blow up.
Fuckin' pesky Alderaanians.
Why was Obi-Wan so positive in Revenge of the Sith when he said "It's over Anakin, I have the high ground!" when he was in the low ground position in Phantom Menace. Is he really that confident in himself? ...Arrogant, someone might even say? Last time I watched Phantom Menace I paid special attention to that scene, and Darth Maul is really fucking stupid. He has this dumbfounded look on his face like it's beyond all reason that a Jedi could jump so high.
Titus_Pullo
10-03-2008, 11:30 PM
That was blood mist from the saber heat when Maul was cut in half.
Qui Gon and none of the Jedi disappeared in the prequels when they were killed. At the end of ROTS Yoda said he made contact with Qui Gon in the after life and that he had training for Obi Wan when he was on Tatooine. That was alluding to why he disappeared when Vader killed in in the original Star Wars(I refuse to call it A New Hope), because he was able to still stay around in spirit form.
willydong
10-03-2008, 11:37 PM
The empire did choose the right planet to blow up.
Fuckin' pesky Alderaanians.
Why was Obi-Wan so positive in Revenge of the Sith when he said "It's over Anakin, I have the high ground!" when he was in the low ground position in Phantom Menace. Is he really that confident in himself? ...Arrogant, someone might even say? Last time I watched Phantom Menace I paid special attention to that scene, and Darth Maul is really fucking stupid. He has this dumbfounded look on his face like it's beyond all reason that a Jedi could jump so high.
indeed, lucas ripped off :Blind Fury", rutger hauers finest work
Archetype
10-03-2008, 11:44 PM
There's no such thing as "ripped off" in entertainment.
The GWD
10-04-2008, 12:25 AM
You people and your blood spray from Darth Maul. A quick blood spray, sure. But come on. I have a feeling if someone were actually sliced in half, there would probably be more gore than that. So as I said, the lightsaber acts as a cauterizer.
Archetype
10-04-2008, 12:34 AM
It wasn't mist, it was blood steam.
Bastard
10-04-2008, 03:34 AM
Isn’t possible that Leia’s kids weren’t Han’s? I mean she was captured and tortured by the Empire. I would think that rape might be a part of the Empire’s methods. Maybe Jabba had his way with her too. Could she have used jedi powers to avoid that? Make your own joke about the Force acting as a type of birth control.
Archangel
10-04-2008, 04:22 AM
Isn’t possible that Leia’s kids weren’t Han’s? I mean she was captured and tortured by the Empire. I would think that rape might be a part of the Empire’s methods. Maybe Jabba had his way with her too. Could she have used jedi powers to avoid that? Make your own joke about the Force acting as a type of birth control.
A: Leia's first kids are born about three years after the battle of Endor. I honestly doubt that even Jedi twins need a seven-year gestation period.
B: Leia wasn't aware that she came from a family of Force users until Endor, well after her period at Jabba's. In the Ewok village, she says to Luke that he has a power she could never understand, or something. One minor detail: In the novelisation, Jabba doesn't just lick his lips, he full-on frenches poor Leia.
Archangel
10-04-2008, 04:25 AM
Just a thought: If the general public's exegesis if the New Testament was half as thorough as that of Star Wars, things might be a little different.
Archangel
10-04-2008, 04:29 AM
In Sith, Palpatine tells Anakin that his own Master, Darth Plagueis, could manipulate the midi-chlorians to a point where he could create life.
Isn't that pretty much how Anakin was born? May Plagueis still have been alive 10 years before TPM, and trying to create some sort of über-Sith?
Bastard
10-04-2008, 04:34 AM
Yeah, I wasn’t completely serious but I like the idea of an evil force creating a disciple in the womb of one of it’s most hated enemies. Also would that fetus have any powers and be able to use them before being born. I obviously had no idea about the time line. My speculation was based solely on the films and a few comic events. I haven’t gotten around to reading all the novels. You surprise me Arch. I never thought you would have been a serious Star Wars fan.
Archangel
10-04-2008, 07:13 AM
I've got around 40 Star Wars books, a foot-long Imperial Star Destroyer perched on top of my TV set, and Ralph McQuarrie's depiction of Cloud City on my wall...
Lone Wolf
10-04-2008, 09:29 AM
Whatever happened with Storm Troopers? They were highly effective in episode 2 and 3, but can't shoot a lick in 4-6. Was there a bad upgrade somewhere?
this should really be in classic movie discussion
get on that, somebody
Pax Britannia
10-04-2008, 10:47 AM
Whatever happened with Storm Troopers? They were highly effective in episode 2 and 3, but can't shoot a lick in 4-6. Was there a bad upgrade somewhere?
They changed the type of clones from all jango derived to a number of different sources and started recruiting from the populace.
Plus now their bad guys they instantly become shit shots. It's like the rules.
nuclearjew
10-04-2008, 10:48 AM
this should really be in dead threads
get on that, somebody
If you insist...
If you insist...
THAT IS TOTALLY NOT WHAT i SAID!!!
Snatch
10-04-2008, 12:03 PM
45-year-olds who have been cut to shit, bathed in lava, and rebuilt as a cyborg, maybe.
Yeah, not like propaganda can spin shit, or anything.
What about Yoda's aging? Didn't you find that kind of weird, too?
Oh, and they show Anakin as he would appear had he been healthy in Endor (before they took him out and put in Hayden Christensen). Motherfucker ain't 45.
Archangel
10-04-2008, 12:49 PM
Whatever happened with Storm Troopers? They were highly effective in episode 2 and 3, but can't shoot a lick in 4-6. Was there a bad upgrade somewhere?
Yes: They're not Jango Fett clones anymore, but your garden variety conscript infantry. If memory serves, around the time of Endor, only Vader's personal battalion is a pure Fett clone unit.
Maybe Obi-Wan talking in IV about how imperial troopers shoot so well is more based on his Clone Wars memories than actual fact...
Black_Sun
10-04-2008, 12:54 PM
Why was Obi-Wan so positive in Revenge of the Sith when he said "It's over Anakin, I have the high ground!" when he was in the low ground position in Phantom Menace. Is he really that confident in himself? ...Arrogant, someone might even say? Maybe he was being literal. I be he meant to "It's over Anakin, I have the position of a higher altitude in relation to our respective locations on this hillside."
Just a thought: If the general public's exegesis if the New Testament was half as thorough as that of Star Wars, things might be a little different.If the bible were 1/9,363rd as interesting (or even as reality based) as Star Wars, my views on religion might be much different.
In Sith, Palpatine tells Anakin that his own Master, Darth Plagueis, could manipulate the midi-chlorians to a point where he could create life.
Isn't that pretty much how Anakin was born? May Plagueis still have been alive 10 years before TPM, and trying to create some sort of über-Sith?Plagueis as Shimi's baby daddy? Interesting idea. Personally I think she was just a skank who banged a jedi and didn't want anyone to find out, so she pulled the whole immaculate conception thing on Qui-Gon.
taters
10-04-2008, 01:42 PM
According to the Extended Universe books/Comics and Video games, there really is no dark or light side to the force. An animal that hunts its prey is not 'dark' in doing so, and the force is 'natural', so whatever sentient beings do with the force is allowable. Dark and light just balance each other out (hence why dark jedi *who arent actually 'sith* and light jedi keep killing each other off almost to extinction throughout starwars history).
I doubt George Lucas even knew what neoplatonism was when he thought up star wars though, so it may be rationalizing a pre-flawed idea in analyzing this.
The GWD
10-04-2008, 03:26 PM
All clone troopers were modified and enhanced clones of Jango Fett, and Boba Fett was an unmodified, un-enhanced clone of Jango.
So basically, Boba Fett is a little less effective than your average storm trooper if they were given jet packs and flamethrowers.
Rumpleforeskin
10-04-2008, 03:41 PM
I really want to jump into this debate, but it's just going to piss me off by reminding me how shitty star wars has become.
ElvisWong
10-04-2008, 05:01 PM
Star Wars Theories........Who cares !
Black_Sun
10-04-2008, 06:10 PM
All clone troopers were modified and enhanced clones of Jango Fett, and Boba Fett was an unmodified, un-enhanced clone of Jango.
So basically, Boba Fett is a little less effective than your average storm trooper if they were given jet packs and flamethrowers.
The average storm trooper given a flamethrower and a jet pack would somehow manage to set himself on fire and then jetpack himself into the side of a building just while trying to put his helmet on.
Clone troopers on the other hand (see, there's a bit difference there) are a little more effective in combat, and were actually pretty capable soldiers. Saying Boba is a little less effective than a clone trooper is fine. Because essentially that's what he is. (sorta) But comparing him to storm troopers is just wrong. How dare you!?!
The GWD
10-05-2008, 01:41 AM
The average storm trooper given a flamethrower and a jet pack would somehow manage to set himself on fire and then jetpack himself into the side of a building just while trying to put his helmet on.
Clone troopers on the other hand (see, there's a bit difference there) are a little more effective in combat, and were actually pretty capable soldiers. Saying Boba is a little less effective than a clone trooper is fine. Because essentially that's what he is. (sorta) But comparing him to storm troopers is just wrong. How dare you!?!
Some stormtroopers are still Jango clones. Also, jetpack himself into the side of a building? Change that to a sail barge, and that's Boba in Jedi.
Black_Sun
10-05-2008, 07:06 AM
Some stormtroopers are still Jango clones. Also, jetpack himself into the side of a building? Change that to a sail barge, and that's Boba in Jedi.
By the time ROTJ came about most of the Fett based clones had died in battle or resulting from the genetic modification used to age them quicker for timely delivery to the Old Republic/Empire(they aged twice as fast as a normal human). At the time of the Second Battle of Cato Neimoidia, towards the end of the clone wars, a large percentage of the Grand Army's clones were either dead or too badly injured to ever fight again. Two years into the clone wars Palpatine began building a second clone army of his own design on one of Courscant's moons. The ranks of the Fett clone troopers were growing thin and needed to be supplimented. Palpatines clones were genetically modified to age to maturity in 1 year, and they were trained using a flash-training method. This resulted in the loss of their Mandolorian heratige (instilled in the origional clone army by Jango Fett), as well as their proficiency in key areas such as marksmanship. This is where the majority of the Stromtroopers we see in episodes 4-6 come from, and explains why they are such piles of useless crap.
So, as you can see, there is a big difference between clonetroopers and stormtroopers. Boba Fett may not be much better than your average clone trooper, but he's heads and shoulders above your average stormtrooper.
The GWD
10-05-2008, 11:29 AM
I always imagined in my head Boba Fett was totally white.
Anyways, I suppose that would explain why ewoks were able to beat the empire. If they're fighting a bunch of barely trained one year olds.