The Metal Thread

[TheImpossibleMan]

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Heavy metal pwns j00.

Discuss.

[FrozenBagel]

a muppet metal thread?

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[Gary_Busey]

Been listening to a lot of Edge of Sanity. Wish they didn't break up.

[Dr. Doctor]

Ah, metal music.

If anyone can find a band more metal than Gorgoroth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgoroth_%28band%29) I'd be awful impressed.
For an example of their metalositiy:

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[Gary_Busey]

That's a pretty good metal doc.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Been listening to a lot of Edge of Sanity. Wish they didn't break up.
That's funny, I just started listening to Crimson.

[Pyromaniac]

That's a pretty good metal doc.
I badly want to see Global Metal, the sequel to A Headbanger's Journey by the same guy, Sam Dunn. They tour Israel and other places where playing metal is tantamount to high treason. Can't find a torrent or anything yet, though, as I think it's only been shown at a film festival or something.

Oh, and anyone heard of a Finnish band Misery Inc? If not, check them out:
http://www.myspace.com/miseryincband

They sound a little bit like Into Eternity to me (maybe it's the tradeoff of the power metal vocalist and the growler).

[Rusty]

Anyone heard the new song The Haunted posted on their myspace yesterday? I'm not sure if i like it, pretty sweet riff, but the vocals kind of annoyed me. I don't know maybe it'll grow on me. Heres to hoping the new album is killer.

[Pyromaniac]

Anyone heard the new song The Haunted posted on their myspace yesterday? I'm not sure if i like it, pretty sweet riff, but the vocals kind of annoyed me. I don't know maybe it'll grow on me. Heres to hoping the new album is killer.
The Haunted has always been a band that has killer riffing for me, but the vocals almost always annoy me to no end. Dude's just kind of shitty at coming up with vocal lines, especially for verses.

[Gary_Busey]

I badly want to see Global Metal, the sequel to A Headbanger's Journey by the same guy, Sam Dunn. They tour Israel and other places where playing metal is tantamount to high treason. Can't find a torrent or anything yet, though, as I think it's only been shown at a film festival or something.

I haven't heard of that. I'll definitely have to check that out.

[Mr. Bateman]

i dunno if you guys are a fan of Unearth but i love them

http://www.metalblade.com/unearth/preview.html

check out their new song. it is sick.

[Dragon]

Led Zeppelin. Best there ever was or will be. Nuff said.

[Gary_Busey]

This is the metal thread, retard.

[Mr. Bateman]

rusty how incredible is that opening of the new song? its insanity.

[Gary_Busey]

I'm listening to the new song now. Pretty fucking nice.

[Rusty]

rusty how incredible is that opening of the new song? its insanity.

I peed a little. Its super sweet face melter right off the bat. Awesome stuff.

[Mr. Bateman]

break down mixed with a arpeggio sweep solo.....its the work of metal gods.

[Dragon]

This is the metal thread, retard.

Would you have metal without Zeppelin?

[Gary_Busey]

Would you have metal without Zeppelin?
You wouldn't have metal without a lot of bands. Of course they're an influence, but that doesn't make them a metal band and that's what this thread is about.

Fuck, would you have Zeppelin without Robert Johnson? ROBERT JOHNSON IS THE BEST METAL ARTIST EVAR!!1! [/thread][/youreafaggot]

[TheImpossibleMan]

The only people who think Led Zeppelin are even sorta-kinda metal are Zeppelin diehard fans who don't listen to metal. Led Zeppelin never even recorded a heavy metal song (though they came close).

[Dragon]

Nah not so much but the Robert Johnson influence is understood. Fair enough. Laying the tracks for metal can be attributed to Zep.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Nah not so much but the Robert Johnson influence is understood. Fair enough. Laying the tracks for metal can be attributed to Zep.
And the Beatles, and the Stones, and Cream, and Hendrix...we have genre distinctions for a reason.

[Dragon]

Ok so instead of bashing why not try suggesting some artists I should listen to that you consider metal.

[Gary_Busey]

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[TheImpossibleMan]

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[TheImpossibleMan]

The most important and universally popular metal bands are Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Metallica, and maybe Slayer (depending on who you're asking). The most universally respected death metal group is Death, and the most successful progressive metal group is Opeth.

The most essential metal albums, in no particular order, are (band - album [genre])
Black Sabbath - Paranoid [heavy metal]
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny [heavy metal]
Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast [New Wave of British Heavy Metal]
Megadeth - Rust in Peace [thrash metal]
Metallica - Master of Puppets [thrash metal]
Slayer - Reign in Blood [thrash metal/death metal]
Death - Symbolic [progressive death metal]
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence [technical death metal]
Opeth - Blackwater Park [progressive metal/death metal]

[Gary_Busey]

I would add At The Gates's "Slaughter of the Soul" and In Flames's "The Jester Race" to that.

[TheImpossibleMan]

I would add At The Gates's "Slaughter of the Soul" and In Flames's "The Jester Race" to that.
That was a list of gods, not supermen. In Flames and At the Gates are definitely not on the same tier as any of those bands.

[Gary_Busey]

That was a list of gods, not supermen. In Flames and At the Gates are definitely not on the same tier as any of those bands.
You listed albums. I would definitely put the two albums I mentioned with those.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Never heard Slaughter, but Jester Race is not on the same level as those other albums, not even close.

[Gary_Busey]

I disagree completely. You've never heard Slaughter of the Soul? You're not allowed to talk anymore.

[TheImpossibleMan]

I disagree completely. You've never heard Slaughter of the Soul? You're not allowed to talk anymore.stfu n00b! I actually sat down only a week ago and said "Okay, I WILL listen to Jester Race" and thought it was good, but not great. Moonshield and of course the Jester's Dance are great songs, but the rest are a little stale. They actually remind me of Mercyful Fate in the sense that the band is insanely good but the singer is pretty crap.

[Gary_Busey]

That album brought the Gothenburg sound to the metal community. Every song on it is classic.

[TheImpossibleMan]

I guess I can't relate, I'm not really in to melodeath.

[Gary_Busey]

Well, at least download Slaughter and give it a good listen.

[TheImpossibleMan]

If anyone is interested, check out this list of the top metal albums of all time. The site is huge and I use it regularly and definitely gets my recommendation, I think the list is very good. (http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=all-time&genre_include=1&genres=metal&include_child_genres=t&include=both&limit=none&countries=)

[TheImpossibleMan]

Black metal does seem to get a lot of love when it comes to "all time" lists. Having never really gotten into the genre, what are supposed to be the all-time classics when it comes to bands and albums?

[Gary_Busey]

I'm not a big black metal fan. Just never really got into it. Some of the big ones would be Bathory, Burzum, Immortal, Blut Aus Nord and of course Mayhem.

[Dr. Doctor]

I was reading over the posts I missed here and realized:

No one has mentioned Mayhem yet.

To me they are one of the most influential bands in the black metal genre.
Which is of course the most metal genre of metal.

[chad213]

That album brought the Gothenburg sound to the metal community. Every song on it is classic.

No shit. Its a great album...the Björler brothers are now in The Haunted which is one oif my favorite bands!!! They are both great bands!

[Dracula]

New Cavalera Conspiracy is pretty sweet, sick riffs.

[Gary_Busey]

I was reading over the posts I missed here and realized:

No one has mentioned Mayhem yet.

To me they are one of the most influential bands in the black metal genre.
Which is of course the most metal genre of metal.
Actually, I mentioned them in the post above yours.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Busey, what are your top ten metal albums? It occurs to me that I don't really know your taste.

[Gary_Busey]

I hate doing "Top 10" lists for anything. I'll try to come up with something later though.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Well, fuck top ten, I just mean, what are some of your favorite metal albums/bands.

[Gary_Busey]

I guess I lean more towards death metal than anything else. Anyways, here's some albums I like.

In Flames - Jester Race
At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul
Amon Amarth - Versus the World
Vehemence - God Was Created
Withering - Gospel of Madness
3 Inches of Blood - Advance and Vanquish
Bloodbath - Resurrection Through Carnage
All Shall Perish - The Price of Existence
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Acid Bath - Paegan Terrorism Tactics

[Jason]

I don't know if you consider these all metal, but my favorites are:

Soilwork - Stabbing the Drama & Sworn to Great Divide
Diecast - Internal Revolution
All That Remains - The Fall of Ideals
Killswitch Engage - Alive or Just Breathing & As Daylight Days
Shadows Fall - Threads of Life

I tend to like metal with clean vocals atleast some of the time.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Only band on there I've listened to is Killswitch, and they're metalcore.

[Jason]

I saw Killswitch, Soilwork, Lamb of God, and Devildriver last December. LOG is great too, but I didn't like DD.

[Gary_Busey]

I'm not a fan of Devildriver or Killswitch really. Soilwork is pretty good, though they kind of rode In Flames's coat tails for awhile. I like Lamb of God, wasn't real big on their latest album, Redneck was a horrible song, but they've out out a couple really good albums and they do a great live show.

[moe_blunts]

My top 10 list, in no order:

!t.o.o.h.! - rad a trest
drudkh - autumn aurora
grand belial's key - kosherat
negura bunget - 'n crugu
demilich - nespithe
gorguts - considered dead
judas priest - sad wings of destiny
deicide - legion
maudlin of the well - leaving your body map
morbid angel - altars of madness

[TheImpossibleMan]

I have to do 'one album per band' top 10 or it would just be Death albums.

[Gary_Busey]

I hate top 10s of anything, I can't ever choose.


Maudlin of the Well is so damn good.

[moe_blunts]

I got to see Kayo Dot earlier this year. Twas awesome.

[Gary_Busey]

Mia Matsumiya is hot.

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[moe_blunts]

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[TheImpossibleMan]

I'd hit it.

[Gary_Busey]

I'm about to listen to All Shall Perish's new album for the first time. Yes, it's deathcore. Go ahead and hate.

[Gary_Busey]

Gojira anyone? I've been listening to The Link for the past couple days.

[moe_blunts]

woot woot.....kayo dot is coming back to austin in october.

anyways, after a long hiatus, i've been getting back into black metal, granted it's of the more atmospheric variety. i'm a sucker for negura bunget.

[TheImpossibleMan]

If anyone gives a shit...

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheImpossibleMan/my_top_10_metal_albums

[moe_blunts]

suffocation are the shit

[Gary_Busey]

Which album do you like best? Right now, I only have their self-titled.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Pierced From Within is fairly godly. It loses some steam towards the end but the last track is killer. The title track is one of the most ridiculous great death metal songs I've ever heard. I also like their lyrics (sometimes), try reading along as you listen.

[Gary_Busey]

New Amon Amarth album is out, listening to it now. It's pretty fucking good.

[noahsdove]

I hear good things about it

[Gary_Busey]

It's still full of catchy death riffs but it's a little heavier and a little more technical than their past couple albums.

[moe_blunts]

Pierced From Within is fairly godly.



YES!!! this and effigy of the forgotten are essential to any metal collection.

New Amon Amarth album is out, listening to it now. It's pretty fucking good.

it's been leaked for quite some time now. still not as good as versus the world or WOoOS, but a worthy effort.

wintersun needs to fucking release time already....

[Gary_Busey]

I don't think they'll make an album better than VS., that's quintessential Amon Amarth.

[jesusfreak]

New Cynic Album:

http://grindingtheapparatus.net/album-previews/cynic-traced-in-air.html

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[TheImpossibleMan]

Oh shit, it's official then? The new Cynic is out?

[moe_blunts]

the new album leaked


it's fucking sick!

[TheImpossibleMan]

So I have sex with this girl, and after the fact we're laying around, and I ask "Do you want to listen to some music?" And she says "Do you have any Opeth?"

BONERTOWN

[Ace Rockola]

I gotta spread some love for 36 Crazyfists. They are one of my favorites, and I'm actually friends with the band. And not just "OMG! They had a shot with me in the bar after a show!" or "They added me on Myspace" kind of friend but I've been to their houses, and know them personally.

So I don't really give a shit if anyone likes them or not. Just spreading some Alaskan metal love.

[moe_blunts]

MY GOD.....the new cynic rapes! Easily the best release of 2008, any genre. I will buy this when it is officially released.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Please to be uploading thank you? I'd love to check it out, I've actually been listening to Cynic's Focus a lot over the last few days - which is saying something as I never really fell in love with it.

[chad213]

Posted the new Cynic...not too bad.

http://forum.gorillamask.net/showthread.php?p=127521#post127521

[Pyromaniac]

Gojira anyone? I've been listening to The Link for the past couple days.
Gojira is bomb. Honestly, From Mars to Sirius is my favourite metal album of the past couple years. The new single took a little while to grow on me, but I like it now. And also, I'm seeing them Nov. 7 with In Flames, 36 Crazyfists and All That Remains. That show is going to kick some serious ass.

[TheImpossibleMan]

traced in air is some good shit. where does it rank compared to other metal releases of 2008 for you guys?

[TheImpossibleMan]

this is so lame, all these metal bands I like are touring together...in Europe. Cynic and Opeth are together, and Cryptopsy and Decrepit Birth are together. I would pay to see both...:-(

[moe_blunts]

traced in air is some good shit. where does it rank compared to other metal releases of 2008 for you guys?

It's the #1 album for me, any genre. Of course, this is dependent on how good the new Magma is.

this is so lame, all these metal bands I like are touring together...in Europe. Cynic and Opeth are together, and Cryptopsy and Decrepit Birth are together. I would pay to see both...:-(

Opeth are touring the states with High on Fire and Baroness which ain't a shabby lineup. Also, seeing contemporary Cryptopsy live would just depress me.

[TheImpossibleMan]

They're still supposed to be a great live band (cryptopsy, I mean), and I'd still love to hear songs like Phobophile and Cold Hate, Warm Blood played at 10000000000000 decibils while in a mosh pit.

[moe_blunts]

I'm downloading the new Haggard atm. I hear good things. Also, I was introduced to a band called Forsaken from Malta.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=964


These guys absolutely SLAY! Amazing doom!!

[moe_blunts]

1 more thing:

RUMORS OF A NEW ATHEIST ALBUM!!!! Hell dick yea!

[TheImpossibleMan]

1 more thing:

RUMORS OF A NEW ATHEIST ALBUM!!!! Hell dick yea!
Source?

I would rape a hobo for a new Atheist.

[moe_blunts]

a reliable metal forum....:) apparently, atheist will do a cover of the rush song YYZ

[Gary_Busey]

I'm downloading the new Haggard atm.
Whenever I listen to Haggard, I feel like I should be wielding a sword and some chain mail armor.

[TheImpossibleMan]

a reliable metal forum....:) apparently, atheist will do a cover of the rush song YYZ
YOU SHUT THE HELL UP.

That would be the greatest thing since...ever.

[moe_blunts]

hell yea. i can't wait to hear it.

On a side note, Meshuggah - I rapes small muslim children.

[moe_blunts]

I rapes small muslim children.

[TheImpossibleMan]

hell yea. i can't wait to hear it.

On a side note, Meshuggah - I rapes small muslim children.
What the shit...?

[moe_blunts]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/Meshuggah-I.jpg

= awesome

[jesusfreak]

Meshuggah has always been hit or miss for me. When they're good, they're dynamic and quite melodic (Straws Pulled at Random, Future Breed Machine). When they're bad/boring, they're just static and repetitive (New Millenium Cyanide Christ, Bleed). Plus, Kidman's vocals are so damn dull and monotonous.

On a side note, I'm happy to hear the Cynic album getting such a good reception. I'm trying to hold off listening to it until it actually comes out. I've already heard 4 songs in demo format.

I also think the original version of Evolutionary Sleeper was a lot better than the one that made it on the record:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7B1OKdpTJo

[TheImpossibleMan]

New Leviathan = Impressed
New Scar Symmetry = Not Impressed

[moe_blunts]

Meshuggah has always been hit or miss for me. When they're good, they're dynamic and quite melodic (Straws Pulled at Random, Future Breed Machine). When they're bad/boring, they're just static and repetitive (New Millenium Cyanide Christ, Bleed). Plus, Kidman's vocals are so damn dull and monotonous.



Man, I love Kidman's vocals. Fredrick Thorndale (sp?) is a beast.

When I listen to Meshuggah, I think of robots. The lack of melody can be frustrating at first but I've come to love it. They also put very intense live shows.

Favorite works: Nothing, Catch 33, I

Also, how can you not like New Millenium Cyanide Christ? That song slays!

[moe_blunts]

TIM, if you haven't already, check out Martyr, another amazing Canadian Technical Death Metal band. They slay babies.

[anubae_obscura]

Posted the new Cynic...not too bad.

http://forum.gorillamask.net/showthread.php?p=127521#post127521

didnt know they had a new cd out!! Thanks. when I can ill d/l it and post some rep to ya.

[Swurgen]

One of my favorites, Karyn Crisis is going to do a solo album

http://www.bravewords.com/news/100772

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x133/Zeek850/KarynCrisis.jpg

[moe_blunts]

rofl.....dont care


The new VIRUS is fucking awesome.


Also, you guize hear about the lead singer from Shadow Gallery dying? That sucks. He was way too young.

[moe_blunts]

My last post got me thinking.......2008 has been quite the year for metal. What are your favorite releases?


My top 3 are:

Krallice - s/t
Virus - The Black Flux
Cynic - Traced in Air

All very good

[jesusfreak]

Anybody excited for the new Mastodon?

http://spin.com/articles/mastodon-unveil-new-album-details

[TheImpossibleMan]

Sometime in the future (possibly as soon as Monday), my friend will be interviewing Luc Lemay on his radio program. You guys should tune in!

[Orestes]

Right now Down is my top active metal band. I can't say enough about these guys if you ever have a chance to see them live, take it.

[moe_blunts]

Sometime in the future (possibly as soon as Monday), my friend will be interviewing Luc Lemay on his radio program. You guys should tune in!


that's fucking awesome. link to where i can hear please and also, tell your friend to ask at least one, if not all, of the following questions:

1) what are his influences?
2) is he going to release his classical recordings on a cd?
3) what the fuck was going through his head when he made obscura?
4) any hope for something more brootal than his current project Negativa?

[moe_blunts]

Right now Down is my top active metal band. I can't say enough about these guys if you ever have a chance to see them live, take it.


i hate phil anselmo with a passion. you should check out:

acid bath - when the kite string pops
eyehategod - dopesick

[Orestes]

Right now Down is my top active metal band. I can't say enough about these guys if you ever have a chance to see them live, take it.


i hate phil anselmo with a passion. you should check out:

acid bath - when the kite string pops
eyehategod - dopesickWhy do you hate Phil? It's cool I was just wondering.....

I've heard eyehategod before. Not really my thing. I'll check out that other band though.

[TheImpossibleMan]

Sometime in the future (possibly as soon as Monday), my friend will be interviewing Luc Lemay on his radio program. You guys should tune in!


that's fucking awesome. link to where i can hear please and also, tell your friend to ask at least one, if not all, of the following questions:

1) what are his influences?
2) is he going to release his classical recordings on a cd?
3) what the fuck was going through his head when he made obscura?
4) any hope for something more brootal than his current project Negativa?
Lemay got back to my friend and said that he'd have to push it back a long way, possibly to January. I assume it's something related to the Negativa CD that is causing this.

Their influences are listed on Negativa's MySpace page, surprsing how many of them listed Dead Can Dance.

I wanted to ask: "Obscura is thought of as a landmark because of its uniqueness: it has been described as containing elements such as avant-garde jazz, noise rock, and of course technical death metal. However, despite the fact that [the bass player's name] and [the drummer's name] get song writing credits, it has consistently been described as Luc Lemay's baby. How true is this, and if it is true, how hard was it brining the others around to your artistic vision?"

I also want to ask what prompted the swap of drummers. As far as I can tell, the drummer switch was a disaster: They get a new drummer, record Wisdom, he kills himself, Gorguts breaks up, and now seven years later Negativa has yet to release an album.

[moe_blunts]

check out his classical music:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=102147857

[jesusfreak]

No one here cares about new Mastodon? Do you guys not consider their stuff metal?

[moe_blunts]

I saw Mastodon in 2004, opening for Slayer, and they put on one of the most intense live shows I've ever seen. Great stage presence and they didn't take themselves too seriously.

That being said, I wouldn't listen to them because there is much more interesting music out there. I would like to see them again if they came with a decent supporting cast.

[Gary_Busey]

I like Mastodon every once in awhile. I don't listen to them regularly though. Saw them live in Chapel Hill, great show.

[Limp]

I saw Mastadon and they were alright. Not someone I would specifically go to a show for but not bad to see touring with someone else.

[moe_blunts]

Summoning own BALLS!!!!!

[jesusfreak]

That being said, I wouldn't listen to them because there is much more interesting music out there. I would like to see them again if they came with a decent supporting cast.


Really? I mean, I consider them one of the most entertaining and exciting metal bands to come out in a while. I'm not a huge fan, but it seems like this album is going to be their magnum opus.

So much of the metal, around 95% of it, I've heard bores the shit out of me or in some cases is interesting but not at all listenable.

It seems like people who post here are generally into tech/brutal death and black metal and not so much the progressive stuff. Not that I don't like technical death metal, I just like it in a more proggy form, ie. Cynic and Atheist.

[moe_blunts]

That being said, I wouldn't listen to them because there is much more interesting music out there. I would like to see them again if they came with a decent supporting cast.


Really? I mean, I consider them one of the most entertaining and exciting metal bands to come out in a while. I'm not a huge fan, but it seems like this album is going to be their magnum opus.

So much of the metal, around 95% of it, I've heard bores the shit out of me or in some cases is interesting but not at all listenable.

It seems like people who post here are generally into tech/brutal death and black metal and not so much the progressive stuff. Not that I don't like technical death metal, I just like it in a more proggy form, ie. Cynic and Atheist.



I think it's safe to say that 95% of all music in any genre sucks. All the clones, rip-offs and late-comers. This is particularly true in metal.


My favorites (at this time):

Peste Noire - some of the most intersting french BM i've ever heard. sounds heavily influenced by baroque music

Summoning - Awesome symphonic BM with tribal-esque drums. Really worth checking out

Cynic - Traced in Air is definitely in my top 3 albums released this year.

Virus - Avant-Garde metal from Norway. The Black Flux is also in my top 3 releases of this year.

Gorguts - forever and always.....

Suffocation

Immolation

Symphony X - For a decent slice of cheese with virtuoso musicianship. SOOOOO fun to sing along with.

[Pox]

So I'm going to my first metal show tonight. Anyone heard of Sexcrement? I dont know anything about them.

[Orestes]

So I'm going to my first metal show tonight. Anyone heard of Sexcrement? I dont know anything about them.I'm jealous. I wish I could go back to my 1st one. It was Metallica/Gn'R/Faith No More. An experience I'll never forget and would be a memory I'd want to relive. Have a great time, man.

[moe_blunts]

So I'm going to my first metal show tonight. Anyone heard of Sexcrement? I dont know anything about them.


awesome name. haven't heard them but they are playing with neuraxis which should be awesome. drink lots of beer and have a good time.

on a side note, if i could only go to one upcoming concert it would be this one:

http://www.last.fm/event/832671#shoutbox

what a kickass lineup

[moe_blunts]

just downloaded the sexcrement album. VERY GROOVY STUFF, although i prefer devourment.

[moe_blunts]

i decided to post some decent music in the FSF. check that shit out.

[Pox]

So I'm going to my first metal show tonight. Anyone heard of Sexcrement? I dont know anything about them.


awesome name. haven't heard them but they are playing with neuraxis which should be awesome. drink lots of beer and have a good time.

on a side note, if i could only go to one upcoming concert it would be this one:

http://www.last.fm/event/832671#shoutbox

what a kickass lineup

Yea, that owned. Neuraxis was badass also. The first band (forget their name) was ok. Their singer was a babe, though, and I got into a shoving match with her, which was was cool.

[moe_blunts]

cool. glad you had a good time. make sure to catch PAGAN FEST 2 when it comes anywhere near you.

gary, you see the lineup? Moonsorrow + Primordial? HOLF SHIT!!!!

[moe_blunts]

Opeth covering Would?

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mikael is no layne staley.....that's pretty obvious

[Gary_Busey]

I like the original way better. Props to Opeth for choosing a good song to cover though.

[Swurgen]

Got into Mastodon after seeing them do Colony of Birchmen on Kimmel. Listened to them a lot after that but not lately. Have to give them a spin again...

RE: Opeth: Nice cover of a great song but the soaring vocals of the original are superior.

[Gary_Busey]

Got into Mastodon after seeing them do Colony of Birchmen on Kimmel. Listened to them a lot after that but not lately. Have to give them a spin again...

RE: Opeth: Nice cover of a great song but the soaring vocals of the original are superior.
If you're a fan of music like Mastodon plays, check out a band called Burst.

[Quantum Leap]

Opeth covering Would?
Opeth could record themselves shitting into a manilla envelope and I'd hail it as the second coming. That said, I love that cover, but the original is untouchable.

[moe_blunts]

Opeth could record themselves shitting into a manilla envelope and I'd hail it as the second coming.



what the fuck does that mean?

[Gary_Busey]

He likes Opeth a lot.

[moe_blunts]

apparently


I've been listening to a lot of Demilich, Devourment and Summoning. It's been righteous.

[Gary_Busey]

Bloodbath, also been listening to some Drudkh. I'm not a big black metal fan but this stuff is pretty good.

[moe_blunts]

drudkh rapes on all levels. the ukraine and russia both have been producing some amazing music these past 10-15 years

[Gary_Busey]

It's pretty good. It's not something I'd listen to regularly, but I had it on while I was doing homework and enjoyed it thoroughly.

[moe_blunts]

which album?

also, check out hate forest if you haven't done already.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2234

[Gary_Busey]

I was listening to "The Swan Road". I actually have some Hate Forest on my computer. Not sure which album though, I need to look into that when I get home.

[jesusfreak]

Moe, I got a chance to listen to Black flux. Interesting stuff, not really metal though. And the guy's chanting takes some getting used to.


I'm also currently listening to Genghis Tron's Board Up the House. Kinda mixed feelings after the first two listens.

[jesusfreak]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=9813014&blogID=455156886

Meshuggah/Cynic tour

I'm going to either make the Hollywood or Anaheim dates.

[moe_blunts]

I can't believe there aren't any dates for Texas. BOOOOOOOOOO

Also, I haven't made up my mind on how I feel about ObZen. Opinions?

[Gary_Busey]

How awesome was Edge of Sanity? Way awesome.

aIwuqTvUU88

[TheImpossibleMan]

The first Crimson was real good but I wasn't blown away by it.

[KX2013]

Ok so instead of bashing why not try suggesting some artists I should listen to that you consider metal.

underOATH, King's X, Tribe after Tribe. All three have new albums out this year.

[moe_blunts]

underOATH, King's X, Tribe after Tribe. All three have new albums out this year.

boooooooooooooooooooooooo



Anyways, Borknagar is going back to the studio in January. WOOT WOOT in teh BOOT

[TheImpossibleMan]

I'm getting to see Cynic and Messhughagladhasdfjalskdjh in February. Yay.

[noahsdove]

I'm getting to see Cynic and Messhughagladhasdfjalskdjh in February. Yay.


April for me. I like how this is on the front page.
http://metalinjection.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/pictures_masturbation_glove.jpg

[moe_blunts]

meshuggah are wicked live

[Gary_Busey]

MetalReview.com's top 25 of 2008.

As selected by the staff of MetalReview, the following are 2008's most impressive, accomplished, and outright essential works of heavy metal. Enjoy.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/manilla_road_voyager.jpg
25. Manilla Road - Voyager (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4374/Manilla-Road-Voyager.aspx)



http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/61Qr7g950AL_SS500_.jpg
24. Krallice - Krallice



http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/08_inevitable_collapse_in_the_prese.jpg
23. Soilent Green - Inevitable Collapse In The Presence of Conviction (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4377/Soilent-Green-Inevitable-Collapse-In-The-Presence-Of-Conviction.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/4983.jpg
22. Psycroptic - Ob(Servant) (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4684/Psycroptic-Ob%28Servant%29.aspx)


http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/Pharaoh-BeGone.jpg
21. Pharaoh - Be Gone (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4359/Pharaoh-Be-Gone.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/l_7ba773c0962288c2b638155eaffc45ae.png
20. Cynic - Traced In Air




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/Grayceon_this_grand_show_COVER_lo.jpg
19. Grayceon - This Grand Show (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4665/Grayceon-This-Grand-Show.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/covertestament-the_formation_of_dam.jpg
18. Testament - The Formation of Damnation (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4423/Testament-The-Formation-Of-Damnation.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/img_1_pr.jpg
17. Hail of Bullets - Of Frost And War (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4439/Hail-Of-Bullets-%E2%80%A6Of-Frost-And-War.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/Cover.jpg
16. Enslaved - Vertebrae (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4764/Enslaved-Vertebrae.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/equilibrium_sagas.jpg
15. Equilibrium - Sagas (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4535/Equilibrium-Sagas.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/61hUjeDl8-L_SS500_.jpg
14. Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1 (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4501/Nachtmystium-Assassins--Black-Meddle-Part-I.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/51kdJRXv8L_SS400_.jpg
13. Origin - Antithesis (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4378/Origin-Antithesis.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/arghoslent-hornets-cover.jpg
12. Arghoslent - Hornets Of The Pogrom (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4400/Arghoslent-Hornets-Of-The-Pogrom.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/Conqueror_Cover_Myspace.jpg
11. The Gates Of Slumber - Conqueror (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4497/The-Gates-Of-Slumber-Conqueror.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/2afpgv.jpg
10. Arsis - We Are The Nightmare (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4380/Arsis-We-Are-The-Nightmare.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/0781676612925.jpg
9. Burst - Lazarus Bird (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4786/Burst-Lazarus-Bird.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/193646.jpg
8. Withered - Folie Circulaire (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4510/Withered-Folie-Circulaire.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/GrandMagus_Iron.jpg
7. Grand Magus - Iron Will (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4498/Grand-Magus-Iron-Will.aspx)


http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/Dismember_Cover425.jpg
6. Dismember - Dismember (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4271/Dismember-Self-Titled.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/watershed.jpg
5. Opeth - Watershed (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4465/Opeth-Watershed.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/26776223015136dbd4f9un7.jpg
4. Bloodbath - The Fathomless Mastery (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4780/Bloodbath-The-Fathomless-Mastery.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/windowslivewriteramonamarthstreamne.jpg
3. Amon Amarth - (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4690/Amon-Amarth-Twilight-Of-The-Thunder-God.aspx)Twilight Of The Thunder God (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4690/Amon-Amarth-Twilight-Of-The-Thunder-God.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/obzencoverkv1.jpg
2. Meshuggah - obZen (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4327/Meshuggah-Obzen.aspx)




http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/J_Campbell66/Top%2025/1210672463_large.jpg
1. Decrepit Birth - Diminishing Between Worlds (http://www.metalreview.com/Reviews/4220/Decrepit-Birth-Diminishing-Between-Worlds.aspx)







Yes, Decrepit Birth's blistering DM clinic topped our list, and did so in impressive fashion. This list was complied based on data from the staff's individual Year End Lists (http://community2.metalreview.com/wikis/2008-top-ten-lists/default.aspx), and while Diminishing didn't score itself any championships, the album was ranked higher and more frequently than any other this year. And for good reason. The band's transformation into a tornado of technical-yet-melodic death metal bliss was one of the year's most pleasantly shocking surprises, and their efforts have set the bar at a ridiculous level. A band to watch, indeed.


To all of our readers out there:
On behalf of the rest of the MR staff, I'd like to extend my sincere gratitude for your readership. Each lash, forum post, well-wish and throat-slash is much appreciated, and it keeps us plugging along. Keep reading the reviews, and we'll keep cranking 'em out. Here's to a killer 2009. Raise 'em up.
-RJC

[moe_blunts]

Not a bad list at all. However, Cynic should be way higher on the chart. Good choice for number one and I'm impressed that Krallice and Arghoslent were even on the list.

[Nieschizzle]

Lacks "Protest The Hero".

[Gary_Busey]

No.

[TheImpossibleMan]

As I got through the list, I was like "Damn, I'm sad DB didn't make this list..." and then they put it #1. Great choice. I also really, REALLY like Gojira's The Way of All Flesh, but that clearly isn't in the vein of what they were rating high.

[Gary_Busey]

Gojira is great.

Metal docs. Favorites, good ones, bad ones, I want all that you know of.

[Quantum Leap]

A lot of people that have seen it weren't really fans, but I thought "Metal: A Headbangers Journey" was a pretty well put together doc.

[Gary_Busey]

Yeah, I've seen that. Entertaining and well done.

[moe_blunts]

I watch Documentaries to learn about subject matter which I am not already an expert on.
I am an expert on Metal music.

Therefor, I don't watch Metal documentaries.

[Gary_Busey]

It's purely about entertainment for me.

[moe_blunts]

I need more doom in teh vein of Electric Wizard and Sleep and all that good shit.

[anubae_obscura]

I need more doom in teh vein of Electric Wizard and Sleep and all that good shit.


Moe,

Do u like Earth?

[Quantum Leap]

I'm a little late in the game, but I finally got around to getting Twilight of the Thunder God, and all I can say is holy awesome. I had put it off because I wasn't a huge fan of Fate Of Norms and With Oden On Our Side, but TotTG consistently showed up on just about every year-end list I looked at. Definitely pleasantly surprised.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_Oden_on_Our_Side)

[moe_blunts]

I would like to see Amon Amarth try something new on their next album.

[Quantum Leap]

In Flames tried something new, and look what happened.

[Gary_Busey]

I would like to see Amon Amarth try something new on their next album.
I love their sound. I don't want them straying too far from it.

Yes please.

Ao14_L8Xc8s&fmt=18

[moe_blunts]

ugh....


uninspiring music is so uninspiring

[Quantum Leap]

Ao14_L8Xc8s&fmt=18
Sounds like a bunch of 15 year olds paying homage to their dear Slipknot while keeping one foot grounded in br00tal death mehtul. Were you serious?

[Gary_Busey]

No, I think I'm a metal whore. I'll sleep with almost anything.

I watched Get Thrashed. Pretty damn good doc.

[Gary_Busey]

I'm watching Heavy Metal in Baghdad. Makes you appreciate what you've got.

[Gary_Busey]

Pretty cool perspective of Haake playing Bleed.

Ap7Z5S6yTZM

[420monk]

Lamb Of God: Escape The Plague Contest

http://www.lamb-of-god.com/news.php#94

Coinciding with the February 24th Release of Wrath

On February 24th, to celebrate the release of their fifth studio album Wrath, Lamb of God have created the Escape The Plague contest. The first 100,000 copies of the album will include a card that will direct the fan to Lamb-of-God.com/escapetheplague. Once at the site, the fan will be instructed to enter the code listed on the card and answer three questions. The site will then randomly select 100 winners, who will then be directed to the prize page to select their prize. As each prize is chosen, the site will automatically delete that prize and will do so until all prizes are claimed. The site will go live at midnight, February 23rd, 2009.

Escape The Plague prizes include:
2 - Trips for two to see Lamb of God perform at a major UK festival in August
1 - Barbecue at your home hosted by Randy Blythe
2 - Mark Morton Guitars (Courtesy of Jackson guitars)
2 - Willie Adler Guitars (Courtesty of ESP Guitars)
2 - John Campbell Basses (Courtesy of Jackson Guitars)
1 - Chris Adler drum kit w/ an autographed Chris Adler snare (Courtesy of Mapex drums)
5 - Golden laminates, good for entry at any Lamb of God show for a year
10 - Introduce the band onstage in your town
20 - Roadie for a day in your town
7 - Sing on stage at soundcheck with the band
20 - $50 giftcards to the Lamb of God webstore (Courtesy of Bravado)
25 - Autographed super deluxe Wrath packages, including the CD, Vinyl, and UBS stick with bonus tracks
1 - Mark Morton guitar lesson
1 - Willie Adler guitar lesson
1 - John Campbell Bass lesson

[moe_blunts]

http://www.sweetjanemusic.com/covers/obscuracosmogenesis.jpg

just leaked. 2 members of Necrophagist (not muhammad) are also members of this band. gnarley technical death metal.

[jesusfreak]

Went to see Cynic/Meshuggah last Tuesday at the House of Blues. Cynic absolutely killed it, but they only played a 40 minute set with 8 songs (5 off TIA, 3 from Focus).

Meshuggah was hit or miss (as I had expected). Bleed comes off really well live, but they decided to play the full version of it, which makes no sense. The 5 minute version is pretty damn repeptitive as it is without the extra three minutes tacked on. And about 25 minutes into the show, you realize all the songs post-DEI just run into each other. Eh.

The Faceless were boring. Their opening instrumental was pretty balls though.

[moe_blunts]

i hope they decide to come to texas.....and meshuggah is the shit. just listen to nothing with an open mind.

[jesusfreak]

Haha, yeah...I was playing Nothing the night before the concert. It has its great songs and its boring songs. It's how I feel about almost all their records. Meshuggah is good in small doses.

By the way, I take back my reservations about Genghis Tron. Board Up The House has really grown on me. I'm not sure if it's considered "metal", but its pretty innovative. It's like Dillinger Escape Plan meets Nine Inch Nails.

Also, I just got back to listening to Watershed. I'm actually enjoying it a lot more now than I did when it came out.

[moe_blunts]

I've been giving Watershed a lot more plays as well. I thinks it's still one of Opeth's weaker releases...but that doesn't make it bad. Ghost Reveries took a while to grow on me and now I think it's one of their better albums (or their best post-Blackwater Park album).

[Quantum Leap]

I still think Watershed is on the bottom of the Opeth list, but it's still a pretty damn good album.

Might as well list 'em:
1. Still Life
2. My Arms, Your Hearse
3. Morningrise
4. Blackwater Park
5. Orchid
6. Ghost Reveries
7. Deliverance
8. Damnation
9. Watershed

Of the nine albums, not one has been what I'd consider "bad". Or even decent, they all rule pretty hard.

[moe_blunts]

1. Still Life/Morningrise
3. Orchid
4. Blackwater Park
5. My Arms, Your Hearse
6. Ghost Reveries
7. Damnation
8. Watershed
9. Deliverance

[TheImpossibleMan]

http://www.sweetjanemusic.com/covers/obscuracosmogenesis.jpg

just leaked. 2 members of Necrophagist (not muhammad) are also members of this band. gnarley technical death metal.
The band name is Obsucra? Really?

Do they still sweep every five seconds?

[moe_blunts]

Dragonforce is pure sweep picking.

Necrophagist are incredibly technical....plus, they absolutely slay live. One of the top 5 bands I've seen in concert, for sure.

[moe_blunts]

Blut Aus Nord - Memoria Vetusta II just leaked. I'll post a link.

[moe_blunts]

varg is out of prison

[Quantum Leap]

And looking even more like a jolly elf than before.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/resa/photo19.jpg

"Come, follow me to my stump so that I might make you some fairy dust mead!"

[Gary_Busey]

Time to get to burnin' churches.

[moe_blunts]

Gorguts reformed


http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=1124

DICK YEA!!!

[moe_blunts]

I XIII V XIX XV V XXI XVIII XIX – IX XIX – IV V I IV

[Quantum Leap]

I'm listening to Crack The Skye in its entirety for the first time, and I gotta say I am SERIOUSLY impressed. I'd avoided the loose songs that were leaked since I wanted the full experience. Ghost of Karelia is fucking brutal.

[Gary_Busey]

I fucked my girlfriend to At The Gates's "Slaughter of the Soul" the other night, per her request. It was pretty cool.

[moe_blunts]

I XIII V XIX XV V XXI XVIII XIX – IX XIX – IV V I IV

[moe_blunts]

Best Bruce Dickenson impression I've ever heard.

JVl2GuDvOcA

[Gary_Busey]

Lulz.


Great song.

[Gary_Busey]

I've been listening to lots of Illdisposed lately. It's got me back into melodic death.

[moe_blunts]

For me, a shit ton of Devourment and some Peste Noire.

[Quantum Leap]

There's this band. They're called Tombs. If you're not listening to them, you should.

w-WuxMNOvsA

[tormenta]

I just discovered Lordi the last days and I am loving it...

yWGzjcr4aHs

[slore]

Ya'll heard this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw8-TlQBcBA

[L.ulz]

Ya'll heard this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw8-TlQBcBA

surprisingly, not that bad

[jesusfreak]

I'm listening to Crack The Skye in its entirety for the first time, and I gotta say I am SERIOUSLY impressed. I'd avoided the loose songs that were leaked since I wanted the full experience. Ghost of Karelia is fucking brutal.

Yeah. Metal Album of the Year unless something truly incredible comes along this year. Although the album is often more hard rock than metal. I think you mean "Cracke the Skye" is brutal. Must have gotten a mislabeled advance. They did a Neurosis song better than Neurosis. Hilarious.

The Dillinger Escape Plan is coming out with a new album either by the end of the year or the start of the next. That could be very good. After Ire Works, I think the might be on the cusp of something great.

[moe_blunts]

Meh.

I don't like Mastodon. However, they are incredible live. Awesome stage presence...but their music isn't something I'd listen to in my spare time.

[jesusfreak]

Moe, did you actually listen to Crack the Skye? If you haven't, I'd suggest you give it a few spins. As a fellow fan of Cynic, I don't see how at least parts of the album won't appeal to you.

[Quantum Leap]

I think you mean "Cracke the Skye" is brutal.
No, I said it right.

And Isis is seriously challenging Mastodon's Album of the Year status.

[moe_blunts]

Moe, did you actually listen to Crack the Skye? If you haven't, I'd suggest you give it a few spins. As a fellow fan of Cynic, I don't see how at least parts of the album won't appeal to you.

yea, i've heard it.

on a side note, i'm seeing sleepytime gorilla museum tonight. yay!!

[moe_blunts]

I gave Mastodon a spin on my car stereo...it was really fun to drive to. Maybe my first impression was wrong.

NP - Oblivion.

[Quantum Leap]

i'm seeing sleepytime gorilla museum tonight. yay!!
You bastard.

[jesusfreak]

I gave Mastodon a spin on my car stereo...it was really fun to drive to. Maybe my first impression was wrong.

NP - Oblivion.

Yeah, it completely bangs in the car. The album deserves at least 3-4 listens before any sort of evaluation. It's a grower.

[jesusfreak]

No, I said it right.

And Isis is seriously challenging Mastodon's Album of the Year status.


I have no idea what your definition of "brutal" is....

And I've been hearing good things about the new Isis as well. Is Wavering Radiant something different or is it the same old Isis just done better? I'm debating whether or not to get it when it comes out.

[Quantum Leap]

I have no idea what your definition of "brutal" is....

And I've been hearing good things about the new Isis as well. Is Wavering Radiant something different or is it the same old Isis just done better? I'm debating whether or not to get it when it comes out.
In that instance, I meant brutal as in mindfucking, not totally heavy. Like "dude, your dad just died? Thats brutal".

I'd be lying if I said Wavering Radiant was anything different. They're going farther down the atmospheric route they started with ITAOT but they've picked up their game and work it in really well with the heavy parts.

[deadohiosky]

I have no idea what your definition of "brutal" is....

And I've been hearing good things about the new Isis as well. Is Wavering Radiant something different or is it the same old Isis just done better? I'm debating whether or not to get it when it comes out.


Its an evolution of their music, but not a revolution. It is a fantastic album though.

This album also seems to have alot more vocals then their earlier albums, but this is the way they've been heading for a while.

[moe_blunts]

New maudlin came out and it's free to download.

http://www.maudlinofthewell.net/downloads.html

[moe_blunts]

opinions on the new isis?

[Quantum Leap]

opinions on the new isis?
And Isis is seriously challenging Mastodon's Album of the Year status.
I love it. I've listened to it about 10 times now and it gets better the more I spin it. Every time I listen to it I pick out a new layer of awesomeness lurking just beneath the surface. It's not a great departure from their previous material, but they've definitely improved on it.

Not Related:

Mastodon on Letterman Friday
YmFFGvznE8w

[moe_blunts]

New Devourment is out. FUCK YEA!!!!

[moe_blunts]

New maudlin > New Isis > New Mastodon

[TheSpotlightKid]

Only listened to Crack the Sky one time through so far, but I wasn't as impressed as everyone else seems to be. I like it, but so far Blood Mountain is better IMO. I'll give it a couple more listens, though, to really get a feel for it.

[moe_blunts]

Opinions on Katatonia?

[Gary_Busey]

Great band. Pretty underrated if you ask me. I prefer their earlier stuff as it leans more towards a heavier progressive death metal, but I do enjoy their new stuff.

[moe_blunts]

I prefer later Katatonia. Viva Emptiness might be the greatest depressive rock album ever. The Great Cold Distance has at least 5 spectacular tracks and no bad ones.


They are releasing a new album in October. I can't hardly wait.

[jesusfreak]

I prefer later Katatonia. Viva Emptiness might be the greatest depressive rock album ever. The Great Cold Distance has at least 5 spectacular tracks and no bad ones.


They are releasing a new album in October. I can't hardly wait.


I just listened to a bunch of songs off Viva Emptiness. I don't know how you guys can enjoy his stuff. It sounds like derivative 90s "alternative" metal.

If you want to listen to something like this that's actually interesting just dust off that old copy of Dirt or Tripod by Alice in Chains. Hell, even Jerry Cantrell's solo stuff is miles ahead of this in in terms of songwriting.

[Gary_Busey]

I understand the comparisons, but I just think you're way off. There's some great songwriting in that album.