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BIG PIZZLE
10-21-2008, 11:33 PM
How awesome would it be if they fucked it up and blew up the moon?

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1852608,00.html




India Gains on China in Asia's Space Race

By Madhur Singh / New Delhi (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0))

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Asia's space race just got a whole lot tighter: India's successful launch on Wednesday of its first moon mission, the unmanned Chandrayaan-I, marked a dramatic step forward in its race with China (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1843865,00.html) to put a man on the moon. China had stolen a march in 2003 by becoming only the third nation to fly a man into space (after the U.S. and the old Soviet Union), but when, ten days from now, Chandrayaan-I drops a probe bearing India's flag onto the moon, India will become only the fourth country to plant its colors on the lunar landscape — after the Americans, the Russians, and Japan. With space capability deemed to translate into greater technological standing and strategic clout, the moon mission has been a giant ego-boost for India. "It is a proud moment for us," Science and Technology Minister Kapil Sibal said after the countdown began on Monday.

Some have questioned the logic of a country still so deeply mired in poverty spending $80m on a scientific pursuit akin to reinventing the wheel. Dr K. Kasturirangan, who was chairperson of Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) when the Chandrayaan-I project was announced, has no patience for this argument: "It is not a question of whether we can afford it," he says, "it's whether we can afford to ignore it." He points out that $80 million is a relatively low budget for a space mission. "And the returns, in terms of the science... the technology, inspiration, stature, prospects for international cooperation... are immense." For one, it will help India cement its position in the commercial satellite launch sector, and it will give the ISRO valuable experience in building hi-tech spacecraft, improved rocketry and more advanced remote navigation technology — all of which could be put to many uses. In addition, the probe will spend the next two years mapping the entire lunar surface for minerals, including Helium-3 which is sought for nuclear fusion research, to which India could lay claim in future. India's scientific community also hopes such prestigious projects will help them compete with the better-paying private sector to attract more scientists to the country's space program.

ISRO programs have, until recently, focused mainly on the country's development needs, launching satellites for landscape and resource mapping, weather forecasting, communications and educational broadcasts. In recent years, though, it has been trying to win a larger share of the international commercial launch industry, launching satellites for Canada, South Korea, Israel and other countries. But Chandrayaan-I takes India's space program to a new frontier. "This is really a gear shift in a sense," says Subhadra Menon, whose book Destination Moon chronicles the history of the lunar mission. "Chandrayaan-I is a purely scientific, exploratory mission."

And then, of course, there's the strategic dimension, with Japan, South Korea and, especially, China heating up the Asian space race. China, long viewed as India's most important strategic competitor, caused a storm last year when it shot down one of its defunct satellites, sparking fears of an arms race in space. In October last year, China launched its first mission to orbit the moon. China's exploits are definitely a factor in India's space efforts, says Swapna Kona Nayudu, associate fellow at New Delhi-based Centre for Land Warfare Studies. "We're neighbors, rising Asian giants and suspicious of each other," he adds. Now, the two nations will now compete to land a man on the moon — both have announced plans (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1712812,00.html) to do it by around 2020.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, India's ruling Congress party is hoping that the surge of techno-nationalism spurred Chandrayaan-I and, before it, the Indo-U.S. nuclear deal, will boost its prospects in next year's elections. The government has recently approved Chandrayaan-II, a much more ambitious mission to send a lander/rover to the moon by 2012. ISRO has also announced that it aims to send robotic missions to other planets and asteroids. "What is the purpose of 8% [economic] growth if we can't make the spending necessary to sustain this growth," says Kasturirangan, pointing out that like nuclear technology, space capability for a lunar mission is one of the indices of high-technology development that a developing country like India must acquire not only assert its stature but also to power its own growth. "The 21st century will be the century of planetary exploration. If India wants to be taken seriously among the leading space players, it must first get the right credentials." But later this week, when newspaper headlines return to high inflation and a slowing economy, even the most moonstruck of Indian voters will forget the excitement of Chandrayaan-I. Then, only astrologers will see the moon as having any bearing on how Indians will vote early next year.

pauluncg01
10-22-2008, 12:27 AM
Wow, spending a lot of money on space travel when your country suffers from poverty. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? We can send someone to space in a rocket, but we can't keep people in their homes because of foreclosures. Even though "that $80 million is a relatively low budget for a space mission", it's definitely a higher amount in the US. In terms of the dollars we spend here on space travel, we could keep several states worth of citizens from ending up on the street.

Claydon
10-22-2008, 12:41 AM
Let NASA spend all they want, nasa invented telemetry systems for their astronauts which my sister had to wear this week due to a heart issue. So yah, Nasa can spend the money. Such research benefits all of us, I would rather 16 billion go to nasa ever year, than say a welfare program for more dickheads to purchase MD20 or King Cobra.

pauluncg01
10-22-2008, 02:11 AM
From what you said, that makes sense. If NASA has spent the money in their budget to further technology, then I agree it's been worth the cost. They could just keep all the advances to themselves, but they've shared it with most people. And you're right that the money could be going somewhere else where it would be wasted or where people would take advantage of it. Even though I could say the government sometimes wastes our tax dollars, their at least using some of it to advance human knowledge, which I guess we could now say with India's space program.

OTiS
10-22-2008, 01:42 PM
I was wondering why the atmosphere smelled like curry.

Claibo
10-22-2008, 01:50 PM
"I would rather 16 billion go to nasa ever year, than say a welfare program for more dickheads to purchase MD20 or King Cobra."

AMEN

NOTKyle
10-22-2008, 02:09 PM
That curry is out of this world.

lol!

Tar Heel
10-22-2008, 02:16 PM
Wow, spending a lot of money on space travel when your country suffers from poverty. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? We can send someone to space in a rocket, but we can't keep people in their homes because of foreclosures. Even though "that $80 million is a relatively low budget for a space mission", it's definitely a higher amount in the US. In terms of the dollars we spend here on space travel, we could keep several states worth of citizens from ending up on the street.

If you read the whole article he talks about how it is a key investment in their technological future.

I think it's good for them that they are doing this. It's like one of the power nation rights of passage.

pauluncg01
10-22-2008, 10:56 PM
If you read the whole article he talks about how it is a key investment in their technological future.

I think it's good for them that they are doing this. It's like one of the power nation rights of passage.

I agree with you on that. It's almost like their a new member in an exclusive club. It's quite an achievement of any country to provide the resources, capital, manpower, and time to do something like this. How many countries does this make now, 4? US, Soviet Union (Russia), China, India...please let me know if I'm forgetting any.

vicar in a tutu
10-23-2008, 02:17 PM
Apparently they tried turban all talk of this in the Indian media? Can anybody really think of a reason why they shouldn't have a space program, I can think of naan?


Sorry about the puns, it's an illness, I'm going to the doctors tomorrow to get it sorted, I'm having a punjab...

...Oh..

riseabove!
10-23-2008, 07:43 PM
Space is overrated

Jatoza
10-23-2008, 07:53 PM
Yeah, that shit's cold and full of alien poop.