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To continue the discussion from the old board
If you're a Mission Metallica member, the full download of their Ozzfest show is up for free
RedBEARD
08-13-2008, 08:26 PM
If you're a Mission Metallica member, the full download of their Ozzfest show is up for freeMeaning it should be in the FSF right about...Now?
mudokon485
08-13-2008, 11:08 PM
Metallica Rocks
Rusty
08-14-2008, 09:35 AM
Oct. 26th- Wells Fargo Arena- Des Moines Iowa- METALLICA!!!!! i never thought the day would come where Metallica would be in my own backyard. F'n SWEEEEET!!!!
Cornflake
08-14-2008, 08:51 PM
Does anyone know if they are play any of their new songs at previous shows this year??? I am curious to hear Unforgiven 3.
Also I see on their site that they have the first leg of the North American tour posted... Man, no Ontario Canada yet...
Rusty
08-14-2008, 08:56 PM
I think they debuted the new song "Cyanide" at the Ozzfest show in Texas earlier this week.
Does anyone know if they are play any of their new songs at previous shows this year??? I am curious to hear Unforgiven 3.
Also I see on their site that they have the first leg of the North American tour posted... Man, no Ontario Canada yet...
No, the label didn't want them to play anything new too soon
I think they debuted the new song "Cyanide" at the Ozzfest show in Texas earlier this week.
That's been it so far that's actually on DM. I guess they had to beg to play it. I noticed they didn't play the first single which leads me to believe WB is keeping a tight wrap on the new stuff.
Gary_Busey
08-14-2008, 09:01 PM
So, none of the new songs they've played in concert are on their new CD?
Just "Cyanide". "Vulterous" and "New Song" and "Other New Song" didn't make it.
lowboy
08-14-2008, 11:50 PM
Lars has said they're not even releasing this to iTunes.
He also mention "alternate" ways for this to be downloaded online. Maybe they'll go the Radiohead route and offer up a pay-what-you-think-is-fair deal.
Which could be bad considering how shoddy St. Anger was.
But I am pumped to hear this.
Yeah right. The Special Edition "Coffin Box" is $120 and the Special Edition vinyl is $100. I'll be buying the CD for $10 at midnight on Sept. 12 thank you very much.
Mr. Bateman
08-15-2008, 04:36 PM
So any word on when the new single "The Day That Never Comes" will be released?
lowboy
08-15-2008, 05:31 PM
Yeah right. The Special Edition "Coffin Box" is $120 and the Special Edition vinyl is $100. I'll be buying the CD for $10 at midnight on Sept. 12 thank you very much.
Yeah, CD will do for me.
Mind you, vinyl sounds funking great when cranked through a good system.
So any word on when the new single "The Day That Never Comes" will be released?
End of the month
Mr. Bateman
08-15-2008, 07:00 PM
yea thanks. wiki told me that weeks ago.
Well there is no firm release date. Metallica and WB are being very hush hush on everything.
Mr. Bateman
08-15-2008, 07:14 PM
ok well it needs to come out soon.
lowboy
08-15-2008, 07:36 PM
ok well it needs to come out soon.
QFT
Cornflake
08-15-2008, 07:59 PM
One thing is that the songs are going to be available for Guitar Hero 3 the same day the album comes out... Wish they would have put it out for Rockband instead...
So with the different ways it will be out it has to get leaked... I bet Lars comes to your house and kicks the shit out of you...
420monk
08-18-2008, 02:50 PM
Cyanide [FLAC]
http://rapidshare.com/files/138150137/Family_Holiday_Videos.rar.html
ShitBreak
08-18-2008, 02:55 PM
So is it official that the new single hits the radio and tv tomorrow?
Cyanide [FLAC]
http://rapidshare.com/files/138150137/Family_Holiday_Videos.rar.html
Studio or live?
Sorry I'm at work and can't download shit
If "The Day That Never Comes" goes to radio tomorrow, it might be on iTunes, Amazon, etc. at midnight tonight like rumored last week. *crosses fingers*
I'm thrilled to hear Cyanide! I've been to three concerts with Metallica and they truly are the best live band on this planet.
Suicide - I've already died.
E:
http://metallica.com/index.asp?item=601104
Archetype
08-18-2008, 03:39 PM
Mother of God, yes, Edmonton on the 7th, Calgary on the 4th! I should go to both, fuck school.
See, you already know more than any school could teach you.
Nope. No single released this week :(
Mr. Bateman
08-19-2008, 08:14 AM
its being released Friday August, 22.
its being released Friday August, 22.
Do you confirmation of this somewhere?
Sorry, I'm giddy
ShitBreak
08-19-2008, 01:26 PM
What? God damnit. I want my new Metallica NAOW.
ShitBreak
08-19-2008, 01:32 PM
I might be in for a sensory overload. If I want to, I can see Metallica (for the first time) here in downtown Tulsa, followed 5 days later by Nine Inch Nails (first time).
I might literally stop being a complete idiot and start beating the shit out of people within a week's time.
I might literally stop being a complete idiot and start beating the shit out of people within a week's time.
No amount of music can make you less of a pussy.
September 12th, Berlin.
September 15th, London. CHECK
RedBEARD
08-19-2008, 02:43 PM
No dates in the Carolinas. :(
No dates in the Carolinas. :(
Have you tried match.com?
No dates in the Carolinas. :(
As I said before, all that's been announced is leg 1 through Jan. 31. They are really good at hitting everywhere. The N/A tour supposedly will last a year. Leg 1, break, Leg 2, mini break, Summer dates leg 3, break, mini leg 4.
RedBEARD
08-19-2008, 03:43 PM
BUT I WANNA' SEE THEM NOW!
ShitBreak
08-19-2008, 03:54 PM
Shit...I may see them twice then. If they are hitting Tulsa on Leg 1, there's a chance they may play OKC on Leg 2.
God. I'm so fucking ready.
ShitBreak
08-19-2008, 05:23 PM
I'd be closer to Dallas or KC. StL is 8 hours away.
Although I prefer StL to those two cities, Natch.
Fuck it. Metallica roadie, here I come.
I'm considering Des Moines and Moline at the moment as well.
5 shows, I can do that this leg.
patcooper
08-19-2008, 07:13 PM
i'll most likely go to the newark new jersey show. i'm pissed that the aren't playing msg this leg.
Metallica is like the sex pistols, everyone knows they've hit rock bottom. Yet the fan boys still orgasm when they're mentioned.
muthastone
08-19-2008, 07:58 PM
after the shitfest of st. anger, im giving metallica one more shot.
cyanide seemed solid. i want some music to beat my wife to.
Mr. Bateman
08-19-2008, 08:06 PM
Do you confirmation of this somewhere?
Sorry, I'm giddy
my local radio station said they will begin playing the song on friday.
Superhuman
08-19-2008, 08:27 PM
its being released Friday August, 22.
Actually, I read that it's either this Thursday or Friday.
EDIT: Wow, I is retardeded. I've completely lost track of time and didn't realize the 22nd is this Friday lulz.
Cornflake
08-19-2008, 08:33 PM
I will probably get 2 shows in this tour. The arena shows are awesome... So fucking loud...
The St. Anger songs live are awesome.
Superhuman
08-20-2008, 02:17 AM
This video gives me hope
XgHUI1SXST4
Mr. Bateman
08-20-2008, 06:30 PM
yes. my faith has been semi-restored
Superhuman
08-20-2008, 07:44 PM
It's official, the single will debut on radio tomorrow at 11am PST.
These "tastes of death" also give me hope. Especially #1. The guitar harmonies on #1 sound like how they did them on Master of Puppets.
#1 (mms://wm.elektra.com/metallica/metallica_com/2008/riffs/ALittleTasteOfDeath01.asf)
#2 (mms://wm.elektra.com/metallica/metallica_com/2008/riffs/ALittleTasteOfDeath02.asf)
#3 (mms://wm.elektra.com/metallica/metallica_com/2008/riffs/ALittleTasteOfDeath03.asf)
Cornflake
08-20-2008, 07:44 PM
Last time I saw them Rob did his Gorilla walk the whole show... I can't wait...
Superhuman
08-20-2008, 07:51 PM
According to the official website, Rob has writing credits on every song. That also gives me some hope.
Cornflake
08-20-2008, 08:26 PM
We are a few hours from the new song... Crossing the fingers big time...
Swurgen
08-20-2008, 08:49 PM
It's funny how they're probably worried about how Rob is accepted when many fans look at his signing as a possible savior to the teetering SS Metallica ship. Not that the fans didn't like Newstead because I think they loved him. If anything, his leaving might have served as a wakeup call.
Superhuman
08-20-2008, 11:18 PM
I hope it goes up on iTunes at midnight sharp.
TheImpossibleMan
08-20-2008, 11:23 PM
Man, this is weird. People are actually excited about this album.
TheImpossibleMan
08-21-2008, 01:24 AM
I just don't get it. Why are some people just shitting themselves in anticipation over this? No, seriously, explain it to me. We all know Superhuman has the IQ of a chimp when it comes to album hype ("I will be holding Chinese Democracy in my hands on Thanksgiving 2007"), but what's up with you other guys?
Superhuman
08-21-2008, 01:31 AM
You just don't get it?
Kinda like how I just don't get why you keep posting in this thread if you hate current Metallica.
TheImpossibleMan
08-21-2008, 01:35 AM
It's sort of like watching a trainwreck, or visiting a white power message board. It's perverse and yet I'm unable to look away.
Superhuman
08-21-2008, 01:36 AM
Then look, but don't speak.
TheImpossibleMan
08-21-2008, 01:46 AM
But, like...you guys are just geeking out about it. I understand mild interest and anticipation, perhaps even something more if you like their first four albums more than I do, especially if you're in that weird crowd who passionately love their first five albums (something I can't claim). But fretting over the singles being made available as soon as possible? Documenting (with unrestrained glee) every movement of the band? Saying your faith is restored? Srsly? The surrealism is especially heightened considering I don't think any of you would identify yourselves as metalheads.
I just don't get it. Why are some people just shitting themselves in anticipation over this? No, seriously, explain it to me. We all know Superhuman has the IQ of a chimp when it comes to album hype ("I will be holding Chinese Democracy in my hands on Thanksgiving 2007"), but what's up with you other guys?
What's your favorite band?
When was the last time they put out an album you really love? For most of us it's 17 years. So us diehards are going to be pretty damn excited.
If you don't like the band, 1) you won't understand and 2) why even come here? Don't give me that "It's a train wreck about to happen" bullshit. You just hate the band and like to shit on them. You might as well just go post on Blabbermouth.net. Explain to me why some asshats seem to live to just shit on Metallica? Is it jealousy that you'll never be as good or succesful? Or is it you're all just lemmings and seem to do what's "cool"? I'll never understand people that shit on bands like Metallica or U2 just to do so. They know nothing of the band and their response to everything is "they suck" or "they sold out". Grow the fuck up. If you don't like them, fine. But why do you have to try and ruin everyone else's good time?
And did anyone use say we were metalheads? I happen to like all kinds of music. Some of what people call "metal" is a joke. Black metal, etc. does nothing for me. That's the true joke of music today. I guess having an inaudible singer is awesome as long as the band drums fast and plays fast guitar. There's a reason that shit will never be popular. Excuse Metallica for having crossover power and being accepted by the mainstream.
You music elitist make me laugh. Notice I've not posted once in the "Metal thread" because it's not my thing.
TheImpossibleMan
08-21-2008, 01:54 AM
What's your favorite band?
When was the last time they put out an album you really love? For most of us it's 17 years. So us diehards are going to be pretty damn excited.
If you don't like the band, 1) you won't understand and 2) why even come here? Don't give me that "It's a train wreck about to happen" bullshit. You just hate the band and like to shit on them. You might as well just go post on Blabbermouth.net. Explain to me why some asshats seem to live to just shit on Metallica? Is it jealousy that you'll never be as good or succesful? Or is it you're all just lemmings and seem to do what's "cool"? I'll never understand people that shit on bands like Metallica or U2 just to do so. They know nothing of the band and their response to everything is "they suck" or "they sold out". Grow the fuck up. If you don't like them, fine. But why do you have to try and ruin everyone else's good time?I'm not trying to ruin your fun, I just don't get it. As for why I don't like the current incarnation of the band - REALLY? Have you even LISTENED to the last three albums (and I personally think the Black Album is kind of an embarassment, but I won't start that)? As for sold out - try watching Some Kind of Monster again. I think a friend of mine put it perfectly: "Hearing them talk about things along the lines of making positive music from a negative emotion is a far cry from our brains are on fire with the feeling to kill twenty years earlier. " They've done nothing but alienate the fanbase (that would include me) and have repeatedly come across like crotchety old men who are not only completely out of touch with what made them good in the first place, but crotchety old men who are completely unaware that they are out of touch. I mean, I fucking love Judas Priest, but I didn't break my ankles running to the store to get Nostradomus. I'm not trying to shit on everything you do - I know I'd love to see them live - I just am rather surprised at the over-the-top salavation going on from some of you guys.
As for selling out - please don't try and kid me. They are the textbook definition of "selling out". They consciously changed their sound and image so that they could better cater to a wider audience and the teenage girl demographic.
Says you (And who the fuck are you again?). Maybe they didn't feeling like making MOP 4 times. Bands evolve. There's a reason they're coming up on 30 years as band. A lot of people, myself included, like what they continue to do. As I said on the old board, had some up and coming band made St. Anger it would have been praised. But since it was Metallica doing something new, it's shit on.
Go buy a ticket this tour, go, then just shut the fuck up
So you don't like the band, like I've said, fine. But you seem hellbent on just slamming them.
TheImpossibleMan
08-21-2008, 01:58 AM
"Hey, what's up, I've got this great song."
"That's great, what's it about?"
"Cot death."
"Whoa, that's a little brutal, maybe you should tone it down. You know, less scary to the mainstream."
"Sure."
*time passes*
"Okay, I changed it to be about nightmares."
"Great! Much more radio friendly."
I'm exaggerating but that was essentially the creative process behind Enter Sandman.
Your point? People like it. You don't. Wah wah.
TheImpossibleMan
08-21-2008, 02:02 AM
...? Again, all I'm asking is why you guys are tripping on this like it's the return of John Lennon.
BECAUSE WE LIKE THE BAND and WE care
Are you retarded or just an asshole?
TheImpossibleMan
08-21-2008, 02:12 AM
Oh, nevermind. Well, enjoy the album, dudes.
Superhuman
08-21-2008, 02:15 AM
Hopefully we will.
ShitBreak
08-21-2008, 08:31 AM
T-MINUS 20 MINUTES
ShitBreak
08-21-2008, 08:57 AM
I'm dumb...I still gotta wait another 4 hours.
Ah well, it's still coming.
smith42687
08-21-2008, 09:02 AM
Oh, nevermind. Well, enjoy the album, dudes.
"And it won't go away until our dreams are fulfilled."
muthastone
08-21-2008, 12:08 PM
I understand that there are some people that love to stir the pot. But after about 5 more posts than needed, you just look like a steamin' douchebag....cough cough Mr. Crash.
ShitBreak
08-21-2008, 01:00 PM
not gonna lie.
New song is kinda awesome.
http://metallica.com/index.asp?item=601119
It is indeed awesome. It's like old Metallica song structure had a baby with the new style lyrics and vocals. It gave me a boner.
Artist's rendering of ADD's pants after listening to new Metallica song
http://www.iloveroadhead.com/store/images/BONER_3285.jpg
Ok, so apparently WB is being gay and this isn't on iTunes. Rep to whomever uploads it.
edit: Never mind, if you're a member of Mission Metallica you get it for free today as of now :)
ShitBreak
08-21-2008, 01:18 PM
The start of it had me a little scared, but good god. The whole song was epic, and I totally see why the guys were kinda comparing it to "One".
Yeah. This album is going to fucking nuts.
Oh, and welcome back Kirk. Good to see you still know how to fucking play.
Welcome back Kirk, welcome back Lars' normal drums and a big fuckin' "Hey, nice to meet you" to Rob. The sound is the thing has me excited most. I've liked the lyrics the last few albums a lot (they've been some of the deepest on many of the songs: Unnamed Feeling, Outlaw Torn, Fixxxer, to name a few), but not so much the music. This rules.
Rusty
08-21-2008, 01:38 PM
Oh my lord that shit is amazing. I literally had goosebumps the entire song. That put to rest some of my concerns over the new music. James sounds great, Kirk rocks once again, and Lars actually remembers how to play like a metal drummer not a jamacian playing metal drums.
420monk
08-21-2008, 01:39 PM
The Day That Never Comes
http://rapidshare.com/files/139063619/Boner.rar.html
Cyanide [FLAC]
http://rapidshare.com/files/138150137/Family_Holiday_Videos.rar.html
I can only imagine this song live now. I really want to know when tickets go on sale.
Erased
08-21-2008, 01:40 PM
Should i wait til I get home tomorrow to listen to this on my good speakers at home or is it ok quality for laptop speakers...
420monk
08-21-2008, 01:42 PM
The song needs a warning.....
"Around five minutes into "The Day That Never Comes" Kirk Hammett goes fucking nuts.......BEWARE!"
Should i wait til I get home tomorrow to listen to this on my good speakers at home or is it ok quality for laptop speakers...
It'll be better on a better system, but it's worth hearing now.
Gary_Busey
08-21-2008, 01:45 PM
Sounds like this song could've been on Load.
I wish it would have been on "Load". I'd be rocking out to this for 13 years.
Gary_Busey
08-21-2008, 01:47 PM
The solo'ing is nice though.
ShitBreak
08-21-2008, 01:47 PM
Sounds like this song could've been on Load.
I made that same comment when I first heard "Cyanide"....it sounded like something off Load.
Fiend1138
08-21-2008, 01:48 PM
Don't know if this has been posted yet. If it has oh well.
Cyanide (LIVE)
http://rapidshare.com/files/138939063/Cyanide.mp3
ShitBreak
08-21-2008, 01:48 PM
So are we all basically sitting on our computers fapping to Metallica?
That's hawt.
The opening once the drums kick in sound loadish, but at about 4:37 it's old school
Gary_Busey
08-21-2008, 01:51 PM
I'm not fapping. It was ok. It's a step in the right direction but I wouldn't go as far as saying it's their old sound.
Erased
08-21-2008, 02:16 PM
^^What Gary said...^^...I liked it though...
Fiend1138
08-21-2008, 02:32 PM
Last half > First half
shitty mix on the drums. james' voice is waaaaay too clean.
I give it a 'meh'
What's wrong with clean vox?
Fiend1138
08-21-2008, 02:49 PM
nothing is wrong with clean vocals, but his were too clean. it took a lot away from the song.
Poop Sailboat
08-21-2008, 03:32 PM
i'm not a huge metallica fan anymore, the new song was ok, but i think they're about 20 years too late with this one.
Cornflake
08-21-2008, 03:37 PM
I like it. Very well done.
Superhuman
08-21-2008, 04:12 PM
The choruses have a "To Live is to Die" vibe.....which is very good. The last 4 minutes sound like the Metallica we all know and love.My only complaints:-The snare sounds too loud in the mix (but at least it doesn't sound like a tin can)-You can tell James' vocal range is being pushed to the max. Maybe they should've stayed in E flat?Overall 8/10. I liked it a lot.
I noticed when I play the MP3 from Mission Metallica on my iPod through the car speaker it sounds bad. I am hoping iTunes or someone releases a proper download.
edit: ask and you shall receive. iTunes has it up, and it sounds better.
muthastone
08-21-2008, 04:21 PM
so there is a good quality mp3 of this now?
Superhuman
08-21-2008, 04:22 PM
Yea, everyone at Metallicabb is complaining that the quality of the mp3 from mission metallica sucks.
Superhuman
08-21-2008, 04:24 PM
so there is a good quality mp3 of this now?
http://rapidshare.com/files/139063619/Boner.rar.html It's not the best quality, but it's better than the 48k version at the official website.
so there is a good quality mp3 of this now?
Yeah, to me it was worth the $.99
Superhuman
08-21-2008, 04:41 PM
We are 3 weeks away from release. When do you guys think it will leak? I say in about 10 days or so.
If WB is keeping this as locked down as it seems, it might not be until the week it ships. Hell, we didn't even get the single early. I'd say Sept. 2 the earliest.
Mr. Bateman
08-21-2008, 06:08 PM
i enjoy the song a lot. u can tell lars was being a tool and said something like "look d00dz lets turn them drums uup show them people i can still play" so that sucks. and the vox are decent. but yes. the last half is real real kick ass.
a solid 7.5/10
Gary_Busey
08-21-2008, 11:21 PM
If they could make songs like they did on Master, but with the production of And Justice, that'd be like the ultimate Metallica album for me.
ShitBreak
08-22-2008, 08:20 AM
This damn song is getting better with repeated listens.
This album/seeing them live is going to me spooge all over the fucking place.
Apparently between my iPod and iTunes it was listened to a collective 32 times by me, my brother and a couple friends just yesterday
ShitBreak
08-22-2008, 11:15 AM
I've listened to it probably 8 or 9 times. Trying to even it out so I don't burn myself out before the music video hits, let alone the actual album.
Mr. Bateman
08-22-2008, 11:19 AM
Yea it definitely does get better with each listen. It is a really good song. I'm proud of them. They are the total fuck-ups i thought they were.
Watch Spin, Rolling Stone, etc. come crawling back
Cornflake
08-22-2008, 02:08 PM
Yes, listen to it a few times... I am hooked... Very well done...
On the guitar sites it is already tabbed as well. Guitars, bass and drums... Will learn this song over the weekend...
Also, it is back to standard tuning on guitar for this song. Not drop C like st. anger... I did not hate st. anger but it was clearly their worst album...
Genius
08-23-2008, 04:47 PM
Wow, this Cyanide song actually kicks some major fucking ass. I own every Metallica album. I wasn't going to pop for this one, but I think they have me convinced.
Gary_Busey
08-23-2008, 04:48 PM
Is there a studio version out yet?
Genius
08-23-2008, 04:49 PM
I heard the Live Dallas version on XM. So no. Sorry to get your hopes up.
patcooper
08-25-2008, 04:28 AM
i like the new song and yes it does get better the more you listen to it.
corbnation
08-25-2008, 07:46 AM
'Tallica gets thumbs up for hiring a back to basics producer like Rubin. If anyone could coax metal back out of those guys it would be him.
TheImpossibleMan
08-25-2008, 10:07 AM
This doesn't really have anything to do with Death Magnetic, but since you guys aren't metalheads but are excited about an album that sounds like "old Metallica" I thought I'd recommend the band Sepultura. Albums like Beneath the Remains have a very similar sound and vibe, though I can't really understand the lyrics because of the singer's thick Portugese accent. Anyways, give it a listen, you might like it.
ShitBreak
08-25-2008, 10:10 AM
Metallica = good.
Your shit = awful.
TheImpossibleMan
08-25-2008, 10:18 AM
You're a fucking retard.
ShitBreak
08-25-2008, 10:21 AM
You are in a METALLICA THREAD.
Get. The. Fuck. Out.
TheImpossibleMan
08-25-2008, 10:41 AM
This is dumber than when you insisted that David Eckstein was a great baseball player.
Superhuman
08-26-2008, 12:53 AM
My Apocalypse is streaming at the official site. This shit is hot!
click (mms://wm.elektra.com/metallica/metallica_com/2008/de/My_Apocalypse.wma)
This doesn't really have anything to do with Death Magnetic, but since you guys aren't metalheads but are excited about an album that sounds like "old Metallica" I thought I'd recommend the band Sepultura. Albums like Beneath the Remains have a very similar sound and vibe, though I can't really understand the lyrics because of the singer's thick Portugese accent. Anyways, give it a listen, you might like it.
Alot of us are familiar with Sepultura. Who by the way, completely suck now without Max and Igor.
It's not Metallica. If was want to listen to "old Metallica" we'll do just that.
Superhuman
08-26-2008, 01:44 AM
And it's up on iTunes
It is?
I can't find it!
Go to the main page of the store, and hit the "home" button. It's got a huge fucking banner in the middle on the ones that change, or just search for it. The song kicks major ass.
I was happy. A new Metallica song and a new Theory Of A Deadman song tonight up for sale.
Superhuman
08-26-2008, 02:00 AM
Bitchin.
Just dled it.
ShitBreak
08-26-2008, 10:37 AM
Dear god.
Two songs, and this album is already better than 90% of anything that came out this year.
420monk
08-26-2008, 02:11 PM
My Apocalypse (Studio)
http://rapidshare.com/files/140290715/Metallica-MyApocalypse.rarThe Day That Never Comes (Studio)
http://rapidshare.com/files/139115106/Metallica_1st_SINGLE_-_256kbps.rarThe Day That Never Comes (Live - Leeds 2008)
http://rapidshare.com/files/140095358/The_day_that_never_comes_live___Leeds_Festival_200 8.rarCyanide (Live - Pukkelpop 2008)
http://rapidshare.com/files/140320080/Metallica-Cyanide-Belgium.rar15 sec. Clips from "Death Magnetic"
http://rapidshare.com/files/140051935/death1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/140052432/death2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/140052552/death3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/140052778/death4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/140053049/death5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/140053519/death6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/140053894/death7.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/140053999/death8.rar
momsshizzle
08-26-2008, 02:40 PM
The new songs sound great! I can't wait to hear the rest!
these are going to be a very long 18 days
ShitBreak
08-27-2008, 01:51 PM
these are going to be a very long 18 days
*cough cough*
Just wanted to let you know that we're going to extend our stay in a few cities along the way in North America . . . no new stops, just a couple of additions:
December 18 - Los Angeles, The Forum
January 27 - Chicago, Allstate Arena
February 1 - Newark, Prudential Center
As I predicted. Looks like I'll be going to 3 shows for sure now (Milwaukee + Chicago x2) and at the most 5 (Moline and Des Moines being the other possible two).
:)
ShitBreak
08-27-2008, 01:55 PM
You lucky son of a bitch.
Tickets are going to be my Christmas and Birthday presents to myself. I figure if it's $75 for floor, 3 shows for $225 ain't bad
ShitBreak
08-27-2008, 01:59 PM
Tickets are going to be my Christmas and Birthday presents to myself. I figure if it's $75 for floor, 3 shows for $225 ain't bad
There are rumors circulating here in Tulsa that ticket prices for the floor are going to be over 100 bucks. Some people are even saying over $250 bucks.
I highly doubt that....but it has me worried.
It was $75 last tour for in the round, and $50 the tour before for end stage. They're not a band that goes out to screw people. Them and U2 know how to do it and consistantly have $50 floor tickets when they come around. I wouldn't be worried. They know the show's going to sell out. And they have the ritzy snitzy gold circle tickets for the people who are just there to be "seen".
RedBEARD
08-27-2008, 02:19 PM
With service fees and everything else, the last tickets I bought for one of their shows were around $90.
It pays to be in the club
Superhuman
08-27-2008, 03:09 PM
Yesssss I can now make it to one of their shows thanks to the extra date on the 18th.
I wonder what rairities they'll break out this time
corbnation
08-27-2008, 08:16 PM
Would anyone happen to know if the chaps in Metallica plan on coming anywhere near Florida? I think I would probably drive to Atlanta if I had to. Their list of shows on myspace seems like it's all west coast.
RedBEARD
08-27-2008, 08:18 PM
Chaps?
Superhuman
08-27-2008, 08:22 PM
Would anyone happen to know if the chaps in Metallica plan on coming anywhere near Florida? I think I would probably drive to Atlanta if I had to. Their list of shows on myspace seems like it's all west coast.
For the 8th time, it's only the first leg of the US tour. They will go on another tour in the winter/spring, and I'm sure they will hit up Florida.
$75 floor, $55 seats, fuckers
The time is here!! The guys will finally be storming through North America and of course we want the Clubbers to get the best tickets. Without any bells and whistles, the details are: 1. The pre-sale for ALL North American shows starts at 10:00 AM in the city the show is taking place in (what we call around here "local time") on Saturday, August 30.
2. To access the pre-sale, you must have the personal ticket code that we have provided you on your profile page. Go get it now and write it down somewhere safe so you are ready for Saturday. YOUR CODE IS FOR YOUR USE AND ONLY YOUR USE. YOU MAY NOT SELL IT OR TRANSFER TO ANYONE IN ANY WAY. Btw, our friends at Ticketmaster tell us that the most common problem that fans have when purchasing tickets is trying to cut and paste it into the password section. We suggest you type it in one character at a time.
3. There is a four ticket limit per member, per show. You may buy tickets for as many shows as you like using the same code, but no more than four per show.
4. All tickets will be Will Call. That means that the person whose name is on the order must be the person to pick up the tickets at the box office on the night of the show. You will be asked for photo identification and you and whoever is in your group must immediately enter the venue after you pick up your tickets.
5. When it is time for the pre-sale in the city of your choice, go to the METALLICA TICKETMASTER LINK (http://www.ticketmaster.com/Metallica-tickets/artist/735647?tm_link=tm_homeA_b_10001_2). Ticketmaster will be handling all the pre-sale EXCEPT the following cities: Houston, Des Moines, Portland, Philadelphia, and Tulsa. If you want to buy tickets to one of these shows, you must log into Met Club and go to the tour page to click through to a private sale.
6. The Metallica Club pre-sale ends Tuesday, September 2 at 10:00 PM local time.
7. If you joined Mission Metallica using the code that you obtained as a Metallica Club member, you will NOT receive another personal ticket code through Mission Metallica. They will also be having a pre-sale that starts a few days after the Met Club sale does.
8. The good news - with every ticket that you purchase, you will receive a free download of the show that you went to from livemetallica.com!!!
9: Even more good news - ticket prices have not changed in FOUR years! Yep - it's 2004 again and floor tickets will be $75 and reserved will be $55. Of course there will be additional building fees, ticketing fees, etc., but you get the idea. The stage will be "in the round"!
For more information about your code, check out yesterday's news story here (http://www.metclub.com/members/news/news.asp?item=601149). You can also get more information by perusing the tour FAQ. (http://www.metclub.com/members/tour/FAQ.asp)
So apparently the Club lies. Milwaukee was $75.50 face and Chicago was $79 face. $92 with fees for Milwaukee and $94 for Chicago. Oh well, I got my 3 shows. I'm happy. Bye bye pay check!
Mr. Bateman
08-30-2008, 02:39 PM
so apparently the cd has leaked. all the exact track times are up on wiki.
Superhuman
08-30-2008, 02:41 PM
Yea, beacuse Wikipedia is the most trustworthy site for 100% legit information.
Superhuman
08-30-2008, 02:42 PM
30 second clips up on Walmart.com (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10325537)
Superhuman
08-30-2008, 02:43 PM
Wow, those clips sound promising.
so apparently the cd has leaked. all the exact track times are up on wiki.
The same times were put up by someone on the Met boards that claims he has the CD already. His scans looked like crap and really fake.
ShitBreak
08-30-2008, 02:53 PM
Is anyone else kinda like me and looking most forward to The Unforgiven III?
I want to see how they "end" the "trilogy"
I couldn't care less about that song. As I've said before, "Unforgiven II" never should have been made.
Mr. Bateman
08-30-2008, 03:22 PM
All Nightmare Long sounds absolutely un-fucking-believable.
Mr. Bateman
08-30-2008, 03:23 PM
and the snare is to loud. fuck u lars.
Superhuman
08-30-2008, 03:41 PM
Boooooo, they took the samples down.
At least someone already ripped them and put them on Youtube.
Menace2Sobriety
08-30-2008, 06:31 PM
I just keep listening over....and over....and over.......
Swurgen
08-30-2008, 06:41 PM
Imagine how much money/effort is being put towards protecting this disc from early release.
Menace2Sobriety
08-31-2008, 04:19 AM
I just keep listening over....and over....and over.......
TheImpossibleMan
08-31-2008, 12:07 PM
Heard the two singles. Ultra meh.
You're ultra meh. Go listen to your "metal", you elitist tool
TheImpossibleMan
08-31-2008, 12:49 PM
You're ultra meh.
Your mom's ultra meh!
Gary_Busey
08-31-2008, 12:54 PM
It's not being elitist, it's just these songs are nothing special. Yes, they're ok and better than St. Anger, but they just don't do anything for me either.
That's fine. TIM just goes out of his way to pop in here and say something negative each time.
Gary_Busey
08-31-2008, 01:42 PM
Yeah, that's TIM.
TheImpossibleMan
08-31-2008, 02:33 PM
That's fine. TIM just goes out of his way to pop in here and say something negative each time.
Suck a dick, it's the Metallica thread and I posted about Metallica's new shit. If you and OSU just want to jerk each other raw over the release while Superhuman watches then stick to AIM and don't start a thread online.
Don't you have some Opeth or LOG to sodomize yourself with or something? Cookie monster vocals rule...
Superhuman
08-31-2008, 03:19 PM
Suck a dick, it's the Metallica thread and I posted about Metallica's new shit. If you and OSU just want to jerk each other raw over the release while Superhuman watches then stick to AIM and don't start a thread online.
Sounds like something you'd want to do you cum guzzling fag.
Keep your fantasies to yourself.
arod2105
08-31-2008, 04:05 PM
I am really digging the new songs. Sounds like a mix of Fade to Black at the beginning and One near the end of the song. Can't wait for the new album to come out.
Swurgen
08-31-2008, 11:39 PM
The Day That Never Comes was just used on the Ultimate Highlight on ESPN's SportsCenter. meh
Swurgen
09-01-2008, 09:09 PM
JAMES HETFIELD On 'Death Magnetic' (http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicmetalshack/message/25837): 'I Needed To Get Heavy And Scary
The New York Times has published a brand new article on METALLICA featuring
quotes from all four members of the band and Rick Rubin, the producer of their
forthcoming "Death Magnetic" album.
Rubin had seen "Metallica: Some Kind of Monster", the 2004 documentary about the
band's near-breakup and mendingand found it "brutal." It was the group at its
worst, he said, "artistically and personally."
He wanted the band members "to try to erase many years of thinking about either
needing to change their sound, or evolve," he told The New York Times. "If your
marching orders for the first 20 years have been 'change, change, change,' then
letting go of those preconceived ideas is in its own way a new idea."
In his first meeting with METALLICA two years ago, Rubin gave the band a writing
assignment. "I asked them to imagine themselves not as METALLICA," he said. "I
said to them, let's say there was a battle of the bands coming up and nobody
knew who they were, and they can't rely on any of their hits to get them over.
What would that sound like?"
He told them that "Master of Puppets" was the band's best album. He asked them
to imagine that it represented only half the material they owed the record
company in 1986. What would the other half sound like? "It can't sound like
those songs, because you already have those songs," he explained. "The exercise
wasn't to rewrite songs like that, but to write songs in that spirit."
Guitarist/vocalist James Hetfield told The New York Times trying to go back in
time was "a nice idea, and pretty near impossible."
"We know too much," he continued. "You can't make yourself a virgin again. But I
got what Rubin meant."
When asked whether it wasn't difficult to climb back into the person he used to
be, having only recently reformed, Hetfield told The New York Times, "Yeah, I
would say that was a different person. I know more now. But on this record, I
needed to take the reins again, and get heavy and scary with myself again. I
don't have to be afraid of the anger. I think it's a lot easier to access now. I
know how far I want to go with it, and I've gone far and still been O.K. I've
had duality my whole life. There's the person I hide and the person I show. I'm
the entertainer out there! I'm the master of the stage! When that's done, I get
to go sit by myself. So I am both. Is that the one I want to be? Is this the one
I want to be? Probably neither. But living in the middle just seems too blah."
I was amazed when the story was put on BBM the other day how long it took for someone's comment to be "start drinking again". The haters never cease to amaze me.
Superhuman
09-02-2008, 02:28 AM
Cyanide studio available at official site. (http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=601167)
Will be on iTunes in a few hours.
It'll be in the morning. iTunes sucks on holidays. I came back online to buy it, and whoops forgot it was Labor Day yesterday.
Superhuman
09-02-2008, 02:30 AM
James sounds good.
Superhuman
09-02-2008, 02:32 AM
I don't mean to jump on the bandwagon, but the drums really are obnoxiously loud in the mix.
I think this is my favorite of the 3 songs released now, but yes the drums are loud
Superhuman
09-02-2008, 02:35 AM
I love the breakdown in the middle with the clean guitars.
I'm digging the lyrics and the guitars. Good song, and a better live song. This will be my Death Magnetic's "Unnamed Feeling".
Apparently the album has leaked. Rep for anyone who finds/posts it (I don't have the capabilities)
Fiend1138
09-02-2008, 08:55 PM
Apparently the album has leaked. Rep for anyone who finds/posts it (I don't have the capabilities)
http://forum.gorillamask.net/showpost.php?p=86146&postcount=7
FarEastFornicator
09-02-2008, 09:43 PM
What if I was secretly an FBI agent.
FarEastFornicator
09-02-2008, 09:46 PM
The above link doesn't work.
http://forum.gorillamask.net/showpost.php?p=86260&postcount=9
224-320kbps 116mb mp3 files no pass enjoy!
I didn't make it available to anyone, upload it, etc.
FarEastFornicator
09-02-2008, 10:05 PM
I did but I did it unknowingly.
I already made a CD, deleted the files and just burned the CD to iTunes. I have no idea what anyone's talking about.
Gary_Busey
09-02-2008, 10:10 PM
Giving the album a full listen now.
Fiend1138
09-02-2008, 10:47 PM
snare's too poppy
Superhuman
09-03-2008, 01:37 AM
People are ridiculous. First you cry about the snare sounding like a tin can, now when a good sounding snare is used, you cry about that too. If one didn't know better, you'd think we were discussing Snaretallica over here. You people act as if every other album you listen to has a perfect sounding snare created by the hands of Jesus Christ himself.
Superhuman
09-03-2008, 01:38 AM
I just got home today.....had a long day. The album is downloading as I type this. I can't wait to hear it.
Get your ass in gear! It's time to discuss. Unfrogiven III should have been Unforgiven II since Unforgiven II never should have existed.
Superhuman
09-03-2008, 01:47 AM
The file is at 95%. I'm dying with anxiety.
Fiend1138
09-03-2008, 01:48 AM
People are ridiculous. First you cry about the snare sounding like a tin can, now when a good sounding snare is used, you cry about that too. If one didn't know better, you'd think we were discussing Snaretallica over here. You people act as if every other album you listen to has a perfect sounding snare created by the hands of Jesus Christ himself.
I just think for having someone like Rick Rubin behind the console the mix would sound better than a $400 dollar a day studio.
Seriously, I can't wait for the tour. Songs like "The Judas Kiss", "That Was Just Your Life" and "All Nightmare Long" rule.
Superhuman
09-03-2008, 01:56 AM
I'm on the 2nd track now, and I have the biggest grin on my face.
Fiend1138
09-03-2008, 01:59 AM
They are good songs, but shit, I wish I could get a hold of the raw data files and pump it through Pro Tools myself...
Mr. Bateman
09-03-2008, 08:47 AM
rep to anyone who can send me Suicide & Redemption. thats the only song i need.
ShitBreak
09-03-2008, 09:01 AM
I've listened to most of the album now.
Yeah...Metallica's back. Unforgiven III is a fucking opus. Love it.
Gary_Busey
09-03-2008, 11:12 AM
Listened to about 5 songs from the album. A few were ok, I thought Unforgiven III was pretty lame. The production is shitty. The songs feel so 'simple', I wish they would've gotten more intricate.
RedBEARD
09-03-2008, 05:15 PM
I hate to be repetitive with this sentiment and negative in a somewhat kind of way, but this sounds like the modern version of them doing a cover of "...And Justice For All" era tunes. And for that matter, I don't mind the production save for Hetfield's voice. Call me an asshole, but I like that old, over-produced sound with all the effects from way back when.
Still, it's better than "St. Anger".
Gary_Busey
09-03-2008, 06:43 PM
I don't think it sounds like And Justice at all, songwriting and production. And Justice had a cleaner guitar sound and the bass drum was way more pronounced, which I liked. Maybe I just got a shitty version, I'm gonna download some others and see if they sound any different.
Superhuman
09-03-2008, 07:28 PM
The version I have sounds great. The bass drums are very pronounced.
My album sounds just fine as well
Gary_Busey
09-03-2008, 08:35 PM
I downloaded one ripped at 320kbps and I'm still not a fan of the production.
ShitBreak
09-03-2008, 09:21 PM
Production sounds great to me. Whole damn things sounds pretty great.
RedBEARD
09-04-2008, 11:37 AM
SnobsThe bar, it is so high, we can't help but expect certain things.
ShitBreak
09-04-2008, 01:02 PM
The bar, it is so high, we can't help but expect certain things.
Which is honestly not fair.
I just read an ign review on the 3rd "leaked" song on Metallica's website (Cyanide)...and this sums it up pretty well:
Emphasizing the point that this is not just an ordinary metal song, if this tune were released by any number of other metal acts out there today, it would be a smash hit. But because the level of expectation with Metallica rises – and rightfully so – with their songs, the end result and ensuing review is not always fair.
He still thought the song was awesome, giving it a little over 8/10.
TheImpossibleMan
09-04-2008, 01:05 PM
In this episode, our heroes stop hitting the snooze button and battle the almighty pigskin, kids being treated like idiots, heavy metal's finest, Durstie's brain fart, and our HICAT picks of the week.How can you call them heavy metal's finest when you don't listen to metal?
ShitBreak
09-04-2008, 01:07 PM
How can you call them heavy metal's finest when you don't listen to metal?
1) Because they are
2) I do listen to metal, just not a WHOLE lot
3) The other Mike listens to almost nothing but Metal, so he fills in the metal void I bring to the table.
Jericho
09-04-2008, 01:11 PM
You bring so many voids, though
ShitBreak
09-04-2008, 01:17 PM
You bring so many voids, though
More like I FILL so many voids.
Jericho
09-04-2008, 01:18 PM
no, no that's not what I meant
Gary_Busey
09-04-2008, 01:31 PM
Metallica is definitely NOT metal's finest.
Depends who you ask. Most of what so-called metal fans call good is complete shit
ShitBreak
09-04-2008, 02:23 PM
Depends who you ask. Most of what so-called metal fans call good is complete shit
See: TheImpossibleMan, aka Mr. Crash.
Gary_Busey
09-04-2008, 02:25 PM
I'm sure if you ask the MTV/Fuse crowd, they'll agree with you.
Sorry, not everyone views Opeth and co. as the end all be all of current metal
Menace2Sobriety
09-04-2008, 03:02 PM
'Only because you're not metal enough.'
Only because it's fucking boring and the growling is gay
Gary_Busey
09-04-2008, 03:37 PM
Boring? Opeth? I don't think so.
ShitBreak
09-04-2008, 03:38 PM
I make better music than Opeth.
bigbk915
09-04-2008, 03:40 PM
Me to
Gary_Busey
09-04-2008, 03:40 PM
I bet you play basketball better than Kobe Bryant too.
I don't even know why I bother. It's like trying to argue with a 10 year old why a gourmet steak is better than a Happy Meal.
ShitBreak
09-04-2008, 03:45 PM
Did you just call Opeth a gourmet steak, and Metallica a happy meal?
Yeah, and I'M the one you think is stupid. Give me a fucking break.
TheImpossibleMan
09-04-2008, 03:46 PM
There are so many things I want to say. I want to call you shitheads for saying some of these things. I want to laugh at Mike for pretending that he listens to metal after calling Sepultura shitty and gay (aka admitting he's never heard of them). I want to call you guys philistines for not grasping the basic concepts of art ("I don't like it, therefore it's shit" is a simple thing to say). Most of all though, I want to point out that you're all fucking cocksuckers who are big enough douchebags to have never listened to, say, Watershed or Blackwater Park and yet say shit like "I make better music than Opeth".
Bravo Mike, I didn't think you could be a bigger popped-collar Zima-drinking MTV-watching douche. But you proved me wrong. Slow clap.
Gary_Busey
09-04-2008, 03:47 PM
Have you even listened to Opeth? Not just a 30 second clip, like actually sat down and listened to an entire album? Because I've listened to every Metallica album several times over, including the current one, as well as every Opeth album, so I'm actually educated about both bands, whereas you're just talking out of your ass.
Gary_Busey
09-04-2008, 03:50 PM
Fuck, I'm not even saying Death Magnetic is a bad album, but you guys get all fucking ass hurt if someone does anything other than suck Metallica's collective cock.
TheImpossibleMan
09-04-2008, 03:50 PM
Did you just call Opeth a gourmet steak, and Metallica a happy meal?
Yeah, and I'M the one you think is stupid. Give me a fucking break.
I'm not as high on Opeth as Gary, but if you can seriously listen to Watershed and go "I make better music", then you should kill yourself. Not that I seriously think you've ever listened to an Opeth album from start to finish.
It's been nearly 20 years since Metallica has cut an album that wasn't embarassing, terrible, or both. Sticky Fingers and Beggar's Banquet were the shit, but I'm not about to nut all over the place next time the Rolling Stones release a new album considering how shit all their post-1985 work has been. I fucking love Queen but anyone who thinks the Queen + Paul Rodgers album coming out this year won't be shit is kidding themselves.
Have you even listened to Opeth? Not just a 30 second clip, like actually sat down and listened to an entire album? Because I've listened to every Metallica album several times over, including the current one, as well as every Opeth album, so I'm actually educated about both bands, whereas you're just talking out of your ass.
Yes, my best friend is obsessed (but not an elitist prick about them), so I've heard the last few albums quite a bit at his place and in his car. It fucking bores me. Music is alright, but the vocals are complete shit. My beef with most "metal" bands of today.
Please, without Metallica most people wouldn't have even gotten into metal or listened to it. Give me Hetfield and Hammett any day.
It's been nearly 20 years since Metallica has cut an album that wasn't embarassing, terrible, or both. Sticky Fingers and Beggar's Banquet were the shit, but I'm not about to nut all over the place next time the Rolling Stones release a new album considering how shit all their post-1985 work has been. I fucking love Queen but anyone who thinks the Queen + Paul Rodgers album coming out this year won't be shit is kidding themselves.
Opinions are like assholes...
Gary_Busey
09-04-2008, 03:58 PM
Yes, my best friend is obsessed (but not an elitist prick about them), so I've heard the last few albums quite a bit at his place and in his car. It fucking bores me. Music is alright, but the vocals are complete shit. My beef with most "metal" bands of today.
Please, without Metallica most people wouldn't have even gotten into metal or listened to it. Give me Hetfield and Hammett any day.
I'm not being an elitist about it, but to call them "boring" and then to claim you can make better music than them is just fucking ignorant. So you don't like the vocals, I can see that, they're not for everybody, but if you can't appreciate and respect the musicianship and technicality in what they do, then you're either deaf or retarded, or a combination of the two.
ShitBreak
09-04-2008, 03:59 PM
I love how you guys are in A METALLICA THREAD talking about how bad Metallica is.
Just GTFO, and go listen to your terrible "music". I'd rather listen to Jason Mraz than Opeth.
...and yes, I've heard a few Opeth songs. My podcast partner has played me some of their stuff, and a buddy here in town has a CD. ADD said it perfect. Music is not halfbad, but the vocals kills them, and about 80% of the metal bands out there.
Gary_Busey
09-04-2008, 04:01 PM
I love how you guys are in A METALLICA THREAD talking about how bad Metallica is.
Just GTFO, and go listen to your terrible "music". I'd rather listen to Jason Mraz than Opeth.
...and yes, I've heard a few Opeth songs. My podcast partner has played me some of their stuff, and a buddy here in town has a CD. ADD said it perfect. Music is not halfbad, but the vocals kills them, and about 80% of the metal bands out there.
We were not talking about how bad Metallica is, fucking christ. Fuck, I didn't even bring up Opeth or other metal, it's you assholes who started that shit, I was just giving my opinion about the album.
And when you say dumb fucking shit like "I can make better music than Opeth", of course I'm going to fucking respond to that. I want you to know how big of an ignorant asshole you are.
Jericho
09-04-2008, 04:02 PM
You feelin froggy, kids
TheImpossibleMan
09-04-2008, 04:04 PM
I think Mike really crystalizess the Metallica problem. One of the rawest, most rebellious bands got hijacked by college douchebags who crinkle their noses at harsh vocals. I don't mean 'hijacked' in the sense that "Oh, now these fags listen to Metallica, that's lame!" I mean in the sense that Metallica said, 'hey, we can totally make a ton of money by catering to these guys.' Like, Old Metallica stopped existing after 1990. And so you have this legendary band with four albums that are adored by the metal community but were/are sort of-kinda ignored by the mainstream, and then four albums that were huge hits but hated by the metal community.
Gary_Busey
09-04-2008, 04:04 PM
We're just having a lively discussion, nothing to see here.
Jericho
09-04-2008, 04:05 PM
I'm not so much into metal. It's too damned loud. Fucking kids.
I'm not being an elitist about it, but to call them "boring" and then to claim you can make better music than them is just fucking ignorant. So you don't like the vocals, I can see that, they're not for everybody, but if you can't appreciate and respect the musicianship and technicality in what they do, then you're either deaf or retarded, or a combination of the two.
Sorry, I do find it very boring. I've never said I make better music. There's a reason I'm a sports writer and not in a band anymore. I respect what they do, and yes not my thing, but I'd take Metallica over them or any of these other newer "metal" bands any day in concert or what I choose to listen to at work, in the car, at home, while fucking, etc. To me, they are simply the better band.
As far as TIM claiming they haven't made a good album in 20 years, that's your opinion. For a band that was changing with the times and doing what they wanted to do, Load is not a bad album. Reload for what it is (a rushed disc 2 for Load that was originally supposed to be a double album), is not the worst album ever made (though, it is my least favorite Metallica one), and St. Anger was an alright experimentation. The drums are shit, but lyrically it's one of the strongest albums out there. Stuff liek Unnamed Feeling, Purify and All Within My Hands are some of the most over looked Metallica songs. The songs were too long because all they did was repeat, and there were no solos, etc. But I still stand firm on my belief had some new band made St. Anger, SPIN, Rolling Stone, etc. would have creamed themselves over it and claimed "Metal is saved" or some stupid shit like that. Perhaps if you said they've not made a good pure metal album in 20 years, I'd agree. But it's like people expect bands to never change, evolve, etc. There's a reason they've almost been around for 30 years. It's like U2. Had they made the same album 5 times, they'd not still be here. See where bands like Opeth are in 25 years.