08-09 Season: More Like DEADline

[Pollo]

Lakers/Celtics rematch in the Finals -- book it.

let's hear some predictions for the standings of both conferences, MVP, ROTY, champion, COTY, 6th man, so on.

[ADD]

Done and done...

East-
Atlantic:
1. Celtics (1)
2. Sixers (4)
3. Raptors (6)
4. Knicks (11)
5. Nets (15)

Central:
1. Pistons (2)
2. Cavs (5)
3. Bulls (10)
4. Bucks (12)
5. Pacers (14)

Southeast:
1. Magic (3)
2. Heat (7)
3. Hawks (8)
4. Wizards (9)
5. Bobcats (13)

West-
Northwest:
1. Jazz (3)
2. Blazers (9)
3. Nuggets (11)
4. Thunder (13)
5. Timberwolves (14)

Pacific:
1. Lakers (1)
2. Suns (6)
3. Clippers (8)
4. Warriors (10)
5. Kings (12)

Southwest:
1. Hornets (2)
2. Rockets (4)
3. Spurs (5)
4. Mavericks (7)
5. Grizzlies (15)

Finals:
Lakers over Celtics in 6

MVP: Kobe Bryant
ROY: Greg Oden
COY: Maurice Cheeks
6th Man: Andrei Kirilenko
DPOY: Chris Paul
MIP: Tyrus Thomas

[Jericho]

AK as a 6th man is upsetting

[ADD]

C.J. Miles has been impressive

[ADD]

First transaction of the active season!

Bucks waive Griffin, bring in Croshere. Guess he wowed scouts enough in Indy (damn those dreaded 15 guaranteed contracts. Ask the Celtics)

The Milwaukee Bucks have acquired forward Austin Croshere off of waivers, General Manager John Hammond announced today. In a subsequent move, the team requested waivers on forward Adrian Griffin. Croshere (6-10, 235) comes to the Bucks with 11 years of NBA experience. He spent his first nine seasons with the Indiana Pacers, the team that drafted him with the 12th overall pick in the 1997 NBA Draft. He followed up his Pacers career with one-year stints in Dallas (2006-07) and Golden State (2007-08). He averaged 3.9 points and 2.4 rebounds in 44 games with the Warriors last season. He comes to Milwaukee with 645 regular season games to his credit and career averages of 6.9 points and 4.1 rebounds. The 33-year-old has also appeared in 68 playoff games and owns postseason averages of 6.7 points and 3.6 rebounds.
Griffin (6-5, 230) appeared in two preseason games with the Bucks.
The Bucks opening night roster remains at 15 players.

[NOTKyle]

Del Negro has apparently told the Bulls that their starting backcourt is going to be D Rose and Thabo.

Seriously.

I wish I was making this up.

[Dragon]

Nets possibly for sale again?

According to a report published by the New York Daily News, Nets owner Bruce Ratner met with a group of investors within the past year about possibly selling control of the basketball operations.
The deal would not have included the Atlantic Yards project, which will be the Nets' new home base in Brooklyn.
According to the report, one of the investors said that Ratner met with investors because the Nets were "hemorrhaging dollars."
"He was looking for equity," the investor said of the deal that is no longer on the table. "But now is not the time to sell a sports team, as the Cubs found out. Now, people are holding onto their cash."
The Nets have been losing from $20 million to $25 million annually for several seasons, according to a league source, who projects similar losses this season.

Celtics give Ainge new title and extension\

The Celtics have extended the contract of Danny Ainge and given him a new title, president of basketball operations.
His former title was executive director of basketball operations and general manager.
"Danny has been a key part of building our world championship team and basketball program," team managing partner and co-owner Stephen Pagliuca said in a statement. "He represents all that is the best of Celtics Pride and we applaud his success."


Batum To Start


http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/wiretap/team/por_40.gifBlazers coach Nate McMillan confirmed on Monday that rookie Nicolas Batum will start at small forward in the team's season opener against the Lakers on Tuesday night.
Portland is without expected starter Martell Webster because of a broken foot.

[Da Raider]

The Celtics should have given the extension and title to Kevin McHale.

[ADD]

Del Negro has apparently told the Bulls that their starting backcourt is going to be D Rose and Thabo.

Seriously.

I wish I was making this up.

Jesus fucking Christ. Guess I won't be wearing the Hinrich jersey to the game tonight. I'll just wear a black shirt so when I hit a bar on the way home no one will know I was at the game.

[bpb]

East-
Atlantic:
1. Celtics (1)
2. Sixers (4)
3. Raptors (8)
4. Knicks
5. Nets

Central:
1. Pistons (3)
2. Cavs (6)
3. Bulls
4. Bucks
5. Pacers

Southeast:
1. Heat (2)
2. Magic (5)
3. Hawks (7)
4. Wizards
5. Bobcats

West-
Northwest:
1. Jazz (4)
2. Blazers (5)
3. Nuggets (8)
4. Thunder
5. Timberwolves

Pacific:
1. Lakers (1)
2. Suns (6)
3. Clippers
4. Warriors
5. Kings

Southwest:
1. Rockets (2)
2. Hornets (3)
3. Spurs (7)
4. Mavericks
5. Grizzlies

Finals:
Lakers over Celtics in 7

MVP: Kobe Bryant
ROY: Greg Oden
COY: Rick Adelman
6th Man: Eddie House
DPOY: Chris Paul
MIP: Ime Udoka (I have no idea really so I'm being a homer)

[ADD]

The Bobcats dumped Jermareo Davidson to sign Linton Johnson III. It's going to be a looooooooooooooooong year for Larry Brown. I say awesome.

[NOTKyle]

Jesus fucking Christ. Guess I won't be wearing the Hinrich jersey to the game tonight. I'll just wear a black shirt so when I hit a bar on the way home no one will know I was at the game.

Kirk's been great off the bench, and I'm sure they'll bring him in after about 6 minutes, but I just don't understand starting Thabo. He's been awful all preseason, and he's miles behind Rose, Kirk, Gordon, and Hughes when he's healthy.

Why not start your best team?

[ADD]

Well for one thing, Hinrich is the Captain and should start. I don't know if it's just for the opener, or whatever, but it's a slap in his face. Secondly, I don't like Sefolosha's game. The best team per say would be Rose, Hirich, Deng, Thomas and Gooden right now. But it's not like it's going to matter.

edit: Unless it's because Thabo's bigger than Hinrich and Michael Redd isn't exactly short.

[NOTKyle]

The best team per say would be Rose, Hirich, Deng, Thomas and Gooden right now.

Exactly, and bringing Gordon and Noch off the bench would make this a definite playoff team. I feel bad for Vinny, because as a rookie coach this an impossible roster to juggle and keep happy.

[Da Raider]

Reality will set in tonight that the Blazers are not ready to win the West.

[Charles]

Can't wait for Bynum vs. Oden part I

[Charles]

MVP: LeBron
ROY: Rose
DPOY: Artest
6th man: Lamar Odom
MIP: Al Thornton
COY: Nate McMillan

[Penguin Rick]

East-
Atlantic:
1. Celtics (1)
2. Raptors (4)
3. Sixers (8)
4. Knicks
5. Nets

Central:
1. Pistons (3)
2. Cavs (6)
3. Bulls (7)
4. Bucks
5. Pacers

Southeast:
1. Magic (2)
2. Heat (5)
3. Hawks
4. Wizards
5. Bobcats

West-
Northwest:
1. Blazers (5)
2. Jazz (6)
3. Nuggets (8)
4. Thunder
5. Timberwolves

Pacific:
1. Lakers (2)
2. Suns (3)
3. Clippers
4. Warriors
5. Kings

Southwest:
1. Hornets (1)
2. Rockets (4)
3. Spurs (7)
4. Mavericks
5. Grizzlies

Conference Finals: NO over LAL; Miami over Boston
Finals: NO over Miami

MVP: Chris Paul
ROY: Beasley
DPOY: Artest
6th man: AK
MIP: Shaq
COY: Del Negro (oh yes)

[NOTKyle]

I actually like the COY pick. If Vinny can squeeze the Bulls into the 6 or 7 seed it'll be one hell of an accomplishment.

[Penguin Rick]

I know Rose will take a couple more years to blossom, but I really think the Bulls can make an impact in the East if they utilize that superior backcourt to their advantage.

[ADD]

I actually like the COY pick. If Vinny can squeeze the Bulls into the 6 or 7 seed it'll be one hell of an accomplishment.

Unless the Bulls can get a legitimate front court threat, even in the East they are not a playoff team. They'll flirt, but ultimately reality will set in in mid January or February and sadly Gooden will be traded, and thankfully so will Gordon. Too bad Hughes can't be moved as well.

Keep in mind, Rose is going to be awesome, but the rest of the team is virtually the exact same. They added Rose and Michael fucking Ruffin and subtracted Chris Duhon (who might shine under D'Antoni and I never thought I'd say that) and Shannon Brown. It's going to be mediocre season part two. Maybe this team will quit on Del Negro too. If Skiles ends up coaching the Bucks to a better record, I'll puke. It's abysmal what the Bulls team (and Reinsodrf) did to him.

[ruffdog]

Celtics repeat

[ADD]

Good god, let's pray not. What would Ainge's new title be?

[NOTKyle]

Skiles will give the Bucks a shot in the ass for the first half of the season, but they'll eventually fade back to where they deserve to be. His approach as a coach only works on a team for so long before they tire of it, and that's why a young team with nothing but potential wound up falling back down to earth last year in Chicago.

And Gordon, Gooden, and Pax are all going to leave town by the time the year's over. All the brilliance he showed assembling this team got washed away when he signed Ben Wallace, because that triggered the avalanche.

[NOTKyle]

LeBron James revealed Monday the Cavs will sit this one out. They'll wait in the locker room until the hoopla is over. "We don't need to be out there watching that; we need to get ready for the game," James said before the team left for Boston. "Congratulations to them. But we're not [like] the fans of Boston. We don't need to be out there clapping for them getting rings."

Coolest guy ever?

[ADD]

He should go back in time and play for the 1990-91 Pistons

You stay classy, LeBitch

[NOTKyle]

Fuck that he's totally in the right. His team doesn't need to be out there watching green krinkle-cut paper fall from the ceiling.

Stay in the locker room and get ready to play your game.

[ADD]

Or suck it up, and next time fucking beat them. It's respect. I hate the Celtics, but if I was on the Cavs (kill me), I'd give them the respect and honor they deserve for prying a title away with the help of Kevin McHale. Gotta give the champs their due.

[Kilgore]

Blazers win tonight and go to the Finals.

[ADD]

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


I would neg you, but that's to damn funny.

[Jericho]

Blazers fans have got there hands on some killer Hooch this year

[ninja33]

East Playoffs: Celtics, Cavs, Magic, Sixers, Pistons, Raptors, Hawks, Bucks
Cavs over Celtics
West Playoffs: Hornets, Jazz, Lakers, Spurs, Suns, Rockets, Blazers, Clippers
Hornets over Lakers

Finals: Hornets over Cavs
MVP: LeBron James
ROY: Greg Oden
6th Man: Lamar Odom (is he still going to come off the bench?)
DPOY: KG
MIP: Devin Harris
COY: Jerry Sloan

[Pollo]

West


Lakers
Hornets
Rockets (will be #2 IF T-Mac/Yao stay healthy for at least 70 games)
Jazz
Suns (Porter will be a plus in shaping their defense and Amare will benefit largely with Shaq's presence)
Spurs (losing Manu will be huge for them, and in the West that's brutal to put you down a few spots)
Blazers (barring no big injuries to Roy and/or Oden)
Mavs

team to keep an eye out West: Clippers with the flex of young talent they have ... if the Blazers have injury issues, look for them to make some noise for the #7/8 seeds

team to flop in the West: Nuggets since losing Camby will make that frontcourt so easy to attack for opposing PGs, PFs

East


Celtics (losing Posey hurts, but they're still better than any team in the East)
Pistons
Magic
Sixers (watch out for Thaddeus Young to emerge)
Cavs (LeBron can only do so much for the team of scrubs he plays with)
Raptors (could potentially be as high as #4, but O'Neal is such a big injury concern)
Heat
Hawks (if Marvin Williams lives up to his hype and Horford emerges as a top C, they could be ranked higher)

team to keep an eye out East: Heat seeing how great Wade looked in the Olympics although their PG situation worries me and Beasley's freakish athleticism (New York, Chicago are another considerations)

team to flop in the East: Wizards seeing their load of injuries to Arenas and Jamison (can't see him staying healthy with that knee injury in the preseason) plus Haywood

MVP: LeBron (should be a good battle with Kobe and Paul in the mix)
COTY: Jerry Sloan (Adelman, McMillan, Cheeks honorable mentions) .. how Jerry hasn't won it by now is baffling
ROTY: Oden
MIP: Bynum (should come back after his knee injury with vengeance; Thaddeus Young is also a consideration)
DPOY: Artest (should have alot less pressure on him)
6th: Battier (Odom, AK-47 will be in the mix, too)

Finals prediction: Lakers over Celtics in 6 (Finals MVP: Kobe)

[Jericho]

Battier? No way

[NOTKyle]

If things play out the way they're looking like they will in Chicago it'll be whatever guy first comes off the bench, or AK47.

And I can understand why Blazers fans are so high on their team, but it isn't going to happen this year or next. Not a chance.

[Pollo]

Battier? No way

I know it's crazy to believe, but Battier is such a great player to compliment any team -- and if the Rockets turn out the way I think they will, he'll be the "Jame Posey of the NBA Finals" for the Rockets.

Odom was my other choice, but I don't think he stays as a 6th man for too long.

[Ace Rockola]

Isn't the song they are playing at the ring ceremony the song that is playing when Forest Gump realizes he can run with out his leg braces?

[Soup Nazi]

East-
Atlantic:
1. Celtics (1)
2. Sixers (4)
3. Raptors (6)
4. Knicks (13)
5. Nets (15)

Central:
1. Pistons (2)
2. Cavs (5)
3. Bulls (8)
4. Bucks (10)
5. Pacers (14)

Southeast:
1. Magic (3)
2. Hawks (7)
3. Heat (9)
4. Wizards (11)
5. Bobcats (12)

West-
Northwest:
1. Jazz (3)
2. Blazers (7)
3. Nuggets (8)
4. Timberwolves (14)
5. Thunder (15)

Pacific:
1. Lakers (1)
2. Suns (5)
3. Clippers (10)
4. Warriors (11)
5. Kings (13)

Southwest:
1. Hornets (2)
2. Rockets (4)
3. Spurs (6)
4. Mavericks (9)
5. Grizzlies (12)

Finals:
Hornets over Celtics in 7

MVP: Chris Paul
ROY: Michael Beasley
COY: Maurice Cheeks
6th Man: JR Smith
DPOY: Kevin Garnett
MIP: Al Horford

[Jericho]

The Batman logo on Daniel Gibson's head is pretty lulzy

[FlyingDuffman]

I'm looking forward to the new look Detroit Pistons, after all the changes Joe D made in the offseason to shake things up...

You know... like, er... Kwame Brown?!?

[Jericho]

Drew Gooden looks like an idiot. That beard is.....something

[Lone Wolf]

That NBA Live 09 commercial was pretty sick

[nuclearjew]

This game better not go into overtime...

[Jericho]

2nd. Ray Allen is blowing right now, and I'm ready to move on

[Lone Wolf]

what the fuck was that?

[bpb]

Lebron not hitting clutch free throws.

[nuclearjew]

LET THIS GAME END

And according to Yahoo it looks like Travis Outlaw is starting over Batum. As it should be!

[Lone Wolf]

Lebron not hitting clutch free throws.

Terrible.

[bpb]

And the human troll doll taking a final three point shot. That's laughable.

[bpb]

Oden is fouling out this game. Easily.

[Jericho]

2 Oden fouls quick. Here comes Blockmaster Joel!

[NOTKyle]

Is Ty Thomas actually a legitimate NBA starter now?!?!?!?!?!

[ninja33]

this just in: the bucks are still really good at defense.

[nuclearjew]

Reality will set in tonight that the Blazers are not ready to win the West.
Jesus Christ, this is a goddamn embarrassment.

[Jericho]

It is at LAL. Don't get that upset yet. One thing I'm noticing about Oden early on that bugs me,is that he seems to get pissy like LeBron when a call goes against him. It's an unlikable quality

[nuclearjew]

They're just playing so sloppy. Shitty shots, stupid turnovers. Yeesh

[Ace Rockola]

This game is killing me.

Hopefully these are just first game jitters.

[Jericho]

Outlaw's looking like he could be kinda sexy for you guys.

Even better, Tua's Roy is offsetting the shit that was Ray Allen for me

[opasewq]

appropo of nothing...doesn't seem right,

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/72/fullj.7c089c7501a14c94167e7b1739a8ed9e/7c089c7501a14c94167e7b1739a8ed9e-getty-83010092.jpg

[Pollo]

this is what I hate when the Lakers build good leads: they get so damn lazy to play the defense I saw in the 1st half.

amazing still how they're playing with Kobe not scoring much at all.

[Soup Nazi]

Note to Joel Pryzbilla: I think it would be wise NOT to piss off the Mamba.

[Pollo]

why is Oden in the locker room right now?

[nuclearjew]

I think the announcers just said they didn't know.

[Rover]

West
Rockets
Hornets
Lakers
Jazz
Suns
Mavericks
Spurs
Blazers (after tonight it might be 10. Although Oden looks like he could be a force, if he wasn't prone to fouling out in 20 minutes of game)
Possible surprise: Nuggets. That situation is so nuts that it isn't possible for them to be a unexpected flop.

Possible flop: Spurs. Losing Manu hurts them. They're all getting older. How long can they possibly depend on Bruce Bowen? Also the West is super tough.

East


Celtics
Pistons
Magic
Sixers
Cavs (they should really just change the name of this team to Lebron James and the Travelling Cleveland Cagers)
Raptors
Heat (I don't like Beasley and I don't know why, but DWade is the man)
Hawks
Possible surprise: Knickerbockers. Who knows they might play offense really, really good.

Possible flop: Cleveland. Is Lebron really good enough to carry this team to 45 wins by himself. I know he is, but why would he want to keep doing this. It's not like the Nets/Bulls/Everybody is going to offer him more money is a couple of years based on his ability to win surrounded by below average role players.

MVP: Chris Paul
COTY: Michael Curry (is it really any accomplishment though if he drags the same team to their 7th straight Eastern Conference Final)
ROTY: Oden
MIP: Who knows which player is going to finally see the light
DPOY: Artest (unless he freaks out)
6th: Rodney Stuckey

Finals prediction: Detroit over New Orleans

[Pollo]

I can't remember the last time the Lakers played defense this well ... EVER, or at least since the Shaq era.

[Jericho]

Brandon Roy can't get ANYTHING going

[nuclearjew]

Yeah, I'm chalking this game up to a bad bad funk. This shit ain't right.

[Jericho]

Brandon Roy can't get ANYTHING going
Maybe he reads our forum during TOs

[Pollo]

so much for that Oden/Bynum duel.

and apparently Oden is out with some foot injury -- the severity isn't known.

[Jericho]

Pollo, find out for me what conditioner Sacha uses, okay?

[Rover]

I think Oden handled Bynum great for the 5 minutes he played.

[nuclearjew]

Oden is getting x-rays on his foot. Awesome. FUCK!

[Jericho]

I hope Oden's okay, cause that'd be pretty fucked

[ADD]

Is Ty Thomas actually a legitimate NBA starter now?!?!?!?!?!

He was playing the Bucks. Bogut and Villanueva both had foul trouble tonight. I enjoyed being at the game for once in a long time, but again it was the Bucks. Malik Allen and Tyronn Lue looked like All-Stars in the first half. The Bulls still have a lot of work to do. I think they think they'll be shot if they attack the basket. Everyone is shooting from 14 feet +.

this just in: the bucks are still really good at defense.

You noticed too

[STDSkillz]

I can't remember the last time the Lakers played defense this well ... EVER, or at least since the Shaq era.

I was pleasantly surprised in the first half as well, but I'm not going to get my hopes up too high. The Blazers just weren't hitting their shots. I'll be interested as to how the Lakers respond against a team who's a bit more fortunate than the Blazers were tonight. Great opening game for the Lake Show, though.

[nuclearjew]

Well that's a fine how do you do!
Oden to have MRI on foot Wednesday

Greg Oden did not return to the court with his teammates after halftime of Tuesday's game against the Lakers and has been diagnosed with a right mid-foot sprain.
The X-rays were "inconclusive" according to TNT's Cheryl Miller, which is not exactly what we wanted to hear. Oden will have an MRI on Wednesday morning and the TNT crew speculated that he could miss several games with the injury.

[ADD]

So glad I drafted him

[Pollo]

I was pleasantly surprised in the first half as well, but I'm not going to get my hopes up too high. The Blazers just weren't hitting their shots. I'll be interested as to how the Lakers respond against a team who's a bit more fortunate than the Blazers were tonight. Great opening game for the Lake Show, though.

you're right, maybe I shouldn't jump up and down with this defensive effort if it's only for a one-night effort, but it definitely surprised me with the intensity they showed out there even if Portland wasn't hitting their shots -- the Lakers definitely made them take shots out of their comfort zone and for once I didn't see us get drilled in a paint like I thought Roy would.

[Pollo]

Oden seemed pretty good about the injury that it's not anything serious. he said he wanted to actually come back in the 2nd half. at most, I think he misses the next two games (Spurs, @Suns). the good news is that's the only two games Portland has this next week.

but looking at the Blazers' schedule, they have some tough games to open the season (@Lakers, Spurs, @Suns, @Jazz, Houston). just brutal. if they can pull out 2 wins out of that stretch it would be impressive.

[Soup Nazi]

First trade demand of the season?

Two NBA sources claim that Al Harrington has asked the Warriors to trade him because he doesn't want to play for coach Don Nelson anymore. He reportedly wants to be traded as soon as possible, but will not walk out on Golden State, who opens their season on Wednesday night.
One source with knowledge of the situation said that Harrington’s agent, Dan Fegan, is "actively working to get (Harrington) out of there" and that a few teams already have proposed tentative deals.He has always been somewhat of a disappointment after a couple of very solid seasons in Indy and Atlanta, but I am sure he will have several suitors out there. Rather odd timing though.

[Da Raider]

Lakers played decent to good. Blazers presented us with the poo poo platter.

THIS IS OUR YEAR! THIS IS OUR TIME! UP THERE, IT'S THERE TIME! IT'S THERE TIME UP THERE! BUT DOWN HERE, IT'S OUR TIME! IT'S OUR TIME DOWN HERE!

[ADD]

Dallas gets 2010 All-Star game... In Jerry Jones' place

The 2010 NBA All-Star game will be played at the new Dallas Cowboys stadium in Arlington, Texas, Eddie Sefko of the Dallas Morning News is reporting. An announcement is expected to come on Thursday when the Mavericks open their season.
Owner Mark Cuban has previously been against trying to get the game to Dallas because tickets would not be available to the team's season ticket holders, but in the 50,000 seat stadium that would no longer be an issue.

[ADD]

The Warriors are fucked, or Don Nelson is the most creative genius ever. Only time will tell...

Undrafted rookie guard DeMarcus Nelson will start at point guard for the Warriors in their season-opener on Wednesday night.

Nelson will be the first undrafted rookie ever to line up for Golden State on Opening Night.


"After the songs are over, the guys announcing the names are over, you have to play the game," Nelson, a native of the Bay Area, said. "That's the main thing I'm focused on. There are enough things out there that we have to worry about as far as winning and playing good, so I can't get caught up in the sidelines."

[Omar from Wild and Crazy Kids]

Lakers sould be a contender again this year.

[ADD]

Lakers sould be a contender again this year.

Thank you, Kenny Smith

[Jericho]

I dunno,man. The Lakers? Pretty bold statement,dude.

[Omar from Wild and Crazy Kids]

Yes my spelling can suck. The Lakers should and will be better this year with Bynum at Center.

[ADD]

Again, thank you Kenny Smith

Did you know soldiers would be better with more armor? Or that beer would be better with more alcohol?

[Omar from Wild and Crazy Kids]

Beer is good the way it is and yes i do believe soldiers would be better with more armour.

[CAB]

West

Lakers
Hornets
Rockets
Jazz
Spurs
Suns
Mavericks
Blazers
Possible surprise: Clips, I dont think they'll be as bad as ppl think

Possible flop: Blazers, all youth and nothing proven yet. Jury's out

East

Celtics
Pistons
Sixers
Magic
Cavs
Raptors
Heat
Hawks (Wiz, if Gil comes back healthy)
Possible surprise: Bucks, addition of Richard Jefferson should help although their front court is terrible

Possible flop: Magic, Dwight needs to learn moves other than the dunk plus playing 2 SFs in the frontcourt is not gonna cut it

MVP: Chris Paul
COTY: Michael Curry
ROTY: Rose
MIP: Amir Johnson
DPOY: KG
6th: Rodney Stuckey

Finals prediction: Detroit over LA Lakers

[Omar from Wild and Crazy Kids]

I disagree with the Pistons in the finals. Great call for Chris Paul as MVP.

[ADD]

Kobe will pwn Paul once again

[Jericho]

Nobody's giving Mayo any love for ROY? I think he's gonna surprise you guys

[ADD]

His team's going to be so god damn awful it's going to cost him

Plus, I feel Oden, Rose and Beasley will just be that much better

[Jericho]

I liked the little I saw of Rose last night. You? Really athletic kid

[Omar from Wild and Crazy Kids]

I think Mayo will have a tough season for a rookie. Rose did look pretty good.

[ADD]

I hated his first 2 turnovers from the 300 level, but after that, I was quite happy. He's very team oriented though. He passed up some good shots/drives to the basket to find someone else. I need more though, I mean it was the Bucks. Luke Ridnour is laughable.

[mongo]

this omar guy is a tard.

[The Dude]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/20/fullj.0c8e59b14c8a826c9ca9fc5a825639c0/0c8e59b14c8a826c9ca9fc5a825639c0-getty-83010092jr003.jpg

[ADD]

Any pics of Kevin McHale getting his ring?

[Jericho]

Scalibrine sticks out like a mofo

[Lone Wolf]

Who else is stoked for some New York Knicks basketball?

[ShitBreak]

Who else is stoked for some Blunder Basketball?

[ADD]

Who else is stoked for some New York Knicks basketball?

Who else is stoked for some Blunder Basketball?

Crickets all around

[Jericho]

Jesus, Dalembert's playing out of his mind in the 1st here

[ADD]

Sixers > Cavs. Book it.

[Jericho]

Dunno about that, but they do look good here. Sammy's got 9 boards(7 off) and 2 blocks in the 1st. WHAT?

[Da Raider]

Who else is stoked for some New York Knicks basketball?

Atleast they finally got rid of Isiah. He can't even overdose on sleeping pills without throwing his daughter under the bus. Cock sucker.

[Soup Nazi]

His team's going to be so god damn awful it's going to cost him

Plus, I feel Oden, Rose and Beasley will just be that much better

Didn't seem to hurt Durant last year. Overall though, I think Beasley is gonna stuff the stats more than Mayo, and will be the clear front runner for ROY throughout the season. My runner-up? Rudy Fernandez.

[ADD]

1) Durant stole the award from Horford

2) Those 2 were light years ahead of every other rookie

[ADD]

Oh, and hey Sixers, thanks for turning to shit after the 1st

[Dragon]

Atleast they finally got rid of Isiah. He can't even overdose on sleeping pills without throwing his daughter under the bus. Cock sucker.

The unfortunate thing is he is still in some capacity employed by the Knicks just not in the public eye as much.

[bpb]

YES! Hack a Shaq in the first five seconds of the game.

[tony101]

Oden looked pretty sick out there

[Soup Nazi]

YES! Hack a Shaq in the first five seconds of the game.

Haha, I thought that was a pretty good joke by Pop. I liked the thumbs up and everything.

[bpb]

Haha, I thought that was a pretty good joke by Pop. I liked the thumbs up and everything.

I want a screen shot of that. It will be my wallpaper.

[Jericho]

That was great.

Also, note to Vince Carter. Feel free to put the ball in the hole

[bpb]

They're saying Oden is going to be out for 2-4 weeks.

[Da Raider]

They're saying Oden is going to be out for 2-4 weeks.

srsly? Poor bastard.

[nuclearjew]

They're saying Oden is going to be out for 2-4 weeks.
Or more?
Greg Oden-C- Trail Blazers Oct. 29 - 8:47 pm et

An MRI confirmed Wednesday that Greg Oden would miss four-to-six weeks with a mid-lateral right foot sprain.
So much for the Rookie of the Year award. If you own Oden, there's not much you can do here other than hope that he stays healthy when he returns. Joel Przybilla and Channing Frye will share center duties, but neither appears to be an ideal fantasy option. LaMarcus Aldridge will also get some minutes in the middle over the next two months.
Gotta try to stay positive. Maybe this means I'll be able to get tickets to next Saturday's game against the Timber Wolves for under face value! FUCK.

[nuclearjew]

http://www.nba.com/media/blazers/greg_rehab_blog_bg.jpg

Well I know I've personally been awaiting some new entries. :mad:

[Soup Nazi]

Ok, I don't usually watch a lot of starting lineup introductions, but does anyone else think its a fucking travesty that the Utah Jazz play Alan Parsons Project's "Eye in the Sky" for lineup intros? I thought that was just a Chicago thing (Which, Utah fans should remember......), but it appears I was wrong.

[bpb]

Not a terrible outing but the loss of Ginobli is very noticeable. Roger Mason was definitely a nice addition.

[ADD]

It's like bizarro world tonight

[bpb]

Clips on fire.

[Lone Wolf]

Knicks blow Miami out of the building only to let them back in the game, almost blow it, pull out a win, AND Gus Johnson is calling the game for MSG!

The Knicks are 1-0! The game saw a total of 0 minutes for Curry and Marbury, great fantasy stats for my Knick overloaded fantasy teams, I can smell that #8 seed already.

Anyone know if Gus is going to be a regular fixture for the Knicks?

[ADD]

Oh god, Knicks 1-0. I can't wait for national talk radio tomorrow.

"Oh man, Knicks all the way this year man"

[Soup Nazi]

This is what I like about the Nuggets, they fight and claw their way back into a game IN Utah. Gritty work by Balkman, and clutch shooting by JR Smith. Then, to tie the game we need a 3 pointer with under 10 seconds left. So naturally who would you give it to to make the 3? Allen Iverson? JR Smith? Linas Kleiza? Those are a little too obvious, how about Kenyon Martin? Yeah, that will work fine.........

[Jericho]

The Spurs felt the same way about Duncan earlier

[Penguin Rick]

Gus Johnson deserves a full time gig somewhere.

[ruffdog]

FUCK THE SPURS AND FUCK GREG POPOVICH THAT MOTHERFUCKER

[ADD]

Don't deny him his second "g"

[STDSkillz]

This is what I like about the Nuggets, they fight and claw their way back into a game IN Utah. Gritty work by Balkman, and clutch shooting by JR Smith. Then, to tie the game we need a 3 pointer with under 10 seconds left. So naturally who would you give it to to make the 3? Allen Iverson? JR Smith? Linas Kleiza? Those are a little too obvious, how about Kenyon Martin? Yeah, that will work fine.........

I must stay, that logic is infallible.

[wacker]

Dalembert was only playing well to piss of Leo Rautins as he was there for the Raptors tv. Goes back to the summer olympic qualifying fiasco.

[STDSkillz]

Another nice defensive showing tonight by the Lakers. Like yesterday, it was against a team that isn't even close to finding its sync, but the Lakers are making teams look uncomfortable out there. Great to see.

Also, that scoring distribution is awesome. I'm always a happy man when the Lakers are up by 30 and Kobe didn't need to score 50.

[Pollo]

after that blowout, I think Clips fans which called various LA radio shows today saying this game would be competitive need a headcheck ASAP.

Kobe hasn't essentially looked like the offensive player we're accustomed to, yet we've smoked the Blazers and Clips. I predicted the Lakers would go 64-18, but damn this team is just so fucking stacked right now. Walton looks pretty expendable in some trade -- I would love to pry Haslem from Miami somehow to improve our PF/C depth (or in some Marion/Haslem package at the deadline to matchup better vs. teams like the Celtics).

[Dragon]

Go NY Go NY Go! I'm just happy we beat the Heat we could lose the rest of the remaining game's this season (minus the Heat games). I heard it all week from all my friends that are Heat fans and said you wait and see no Curry is going to help this team. At the bar tonight at half i said to the bartender i bet we get 120 tonight (no lie I had witnesses and the bartender himself). He of course didn't believe me. Come the end of the game he didn't want to admit I was right even though the score was on the TV. We need to play better D down the strech though and work the ball into the post more. Crawford needs to get reamed about shot selection yet again. All in all a decent start. Not great. Knick fan don't have high expectations for this season either. We will be exciting to watch though.

[Pollo]

glad to see D'Antoni brought that 'no defense' mentality to the Knicks from Phoenix.

on a good note, though -- Wilson Chandler could be that poor man's Shawn Marion that D'Antoni referred to in the preseason.

[Jericho]

Boooooozeraaaaaawr!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Da Raider]

after that blowout, I think Clips fans which called various LA radio shows today saying this game would be competitive need a headcheck ASAP.

Kobe hasn't essentially looked like the offensive player we're accustomed to, yet we've smoked the Blazers and Clips. I predicted the Lakers would go 64-18, but damn this team is just so fucking stacked right now. Walton looks pretty expendable in some trade -- I would love to pry Haslem from Miami somehow to improve our PF/C depth (or in some Marion/Haslem package at the deadline to matchup better vs. teams like the Celtics).

Hate to bag on my team, but the Lakers seem to go massive stretches with out getting any rebounds, offensive or defensive. Even with Bynum in there.

[Pollo]

Hate to bag on my team, but the Lakers seem to go massive stretches with out getting any rebounds, offensive or defensive. Even with Bynum in there.

that's typical when we have a big lead and just play so damn lazy, much like early on in the 3rd quarter vs. Portland to diminish the lead before Kobe took over and stop any hopes of a comeback.

[Archangel]

We certainly did a great job on defending Boozer tonight...

[Charles]

The Lakers are rolling

and I love Pop's response to Shaq's bitching earlier this summer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S_soY5Jg_Q

[GreyFox1382]

all in all, I was pretty surprised that the Warriors hung in there last night. losing Baron meant that there were a lot less random 3 being chucked up (with the exception of Jackson, who still takes some ill advised ones but seems to make them anyways). Looks like maggette was a great pickup. Nice to see someone that looks to constantly drive to the hole and will actually make a free throw. What did worry me was that Nellie played basically only 7 people last night, and Jackson played the entire game. He said last season that he basically burnt out Baron, Jackson, and Monta, and he seems to be doing it again. What I don't get is why he doesn't rest people in the last few minutes of the first three quarters, Nash ususally gets rested the last two or so minutes of the first 3 quarters and it helps to keep him fresh. If nellie doesn't get the rest of the team in the rotation its gonna be a long year.

[bpb]

FUCK THE SPURS AND FUCK GREG POPOVICH THAT MOTHERFUCKER

You have no sense of humor.

[ADD]

Lakers win next 5 titles...

The Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=lal) have reached an agreement on a four-year contract extension with center Andrew Bynum (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2748) worth about $58 million, the Los Angeles Times reported, citing sources familiar with the negotiations. The deal would keep Bynum under contract with the Lakers through the 2012-13 season, according to the report. The first three years of the deal are reportedly worth nearly $42 million, with a team option fourth year for about $16 million. Bynum, who will earn $2.8 million this season, showed significant improvement for the Lakers in 2007-08 before being lost for about half of the season and the playoffs to an injury. His healthy return is one reason many observers are touting the Lakers as a favorite to return to the NBA Finals and win the championship.

[bpb]

Annnnnnnnnd now his knee blows out.

[ADD]

Annnnnnnnnd now his knee blows out.

Bite your tongue. I now have to counter it with a "and now Tony Parker's hand gets cut off"

[Celtickliq]

The Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=lal) have reached an agreement on a four-year contract extension with center Andrew Bynum (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2748) worth about $58 million, the Los Angeles Times reported, citing sources familiar with the negotiations. The deal would keep Bynum under contract with the Lakers through the 2012-13 season, according to the report. The first three years of the deal are reportedly worth nearly $42 million, with a team option fourth year for about $16 million. Bynum, who will earn $2.8 million this season, showed significant improvement for the Lakers in 2007-08 before being lost for about half of the season and the playoffs to an injury. His healthy return is one reason many observers are touting the Lakers as a favorite to return to the NBA Finals and win the championship.


God dammit. I drafted him thinking he would go without a contract and play hard to ensure he gets some $ at the end of the season.

[ADD]

He looks like he's playing like he wants to win so far

[ruffdog]

knee.out.now.

[ADD]

Suns.suck.always.

[ADD]

No one bought Joe Dumars' poker face

DETROIT -- A basketball official says the Detroit Pistons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=det) and Jason Maxiell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2775) have agreed on a $20 million, four-year contract extension. The official spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity Thursday because the deal has not been signed. The 25-year-old Maxiell is in the final year of his contract and decided to stick with the team that drafted him 26th overall in 2005. The 6-foot-7, 260-pound forward is one of the Pistons' top reserves and likely will have a larger role in the years to come. He had career highs last season, averaging 7.9 points, 5.3 rebounds and 1.2 blocks in 82 games.

[CAB]

He'll back up Amir Johnson fully when Sheed and Dyess are gone. its a solid move and not too much money plus its small enough at 5 mil a year to trade by itself or with a starter to upgrade a position by the trade deadline... i like the guy so i'm ok with it

[Lone Wolf]

glad to see D'Antoni brought that 'no defense' mentality to the Knicks from Phoenix.



The Knicks weren't playing defense last year anyways, at least now they can score points.

[Pollo]

fantastic news with the Bynum extension (glad it wasn't the 80 mil he was looking for), now I wonder what the Lakers do with Ariza and LO's situations with them becoming UFA's this offseason. I still think Lamar is getting dealt (probably along with Walton) with Mitch probably having an eye on Miami for a Marion/Haslem package. that package would be the final pieces for a championship run going into the Finals if we get there.

[NewTwilight]

IF we get there. We will! Man, Last night I thought the Clippers would give up more of a fight! Very sad. Good for Lakers tho. Davis an Camby will make some good additions once they playing together...maybe. :p

[bpb]

Jerry Jones just finds more and more ways to make money.

NBA sets '10 All-Star Game at new Cowboys stadium (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3673865)

DALLAS -- NBA commissioner David Stern says the Dallas Cowboys' new stadium in Arlington will host the 2010 NBA All-Star Game.

Stern announced the plans Thursday in a ceremony outside the American Airlines Center near downtown Dallas, where the Dallas Mavericks play. Mavs owner Mark Cuban and Cowboys owner Jerry Jones also attended the ceremony.

[Da Raider]

I like Mark Cuban. Plus he has responded to every email I have ever sent him.

[Dragon]

One of the options the New York Knicks are considering regarding point guard Stephon Marbury is asking him to stay away until either the team can trade him or there is a contract buyout, the New York Daily News is reporting.
A buyout at this point is unlikely.
The move of restricting him from being around the team would only happen if Marbury became a distraction, which has not happened to this point. Publicly, Marbury has refused to criticize his reduced role and even said Thursday, "Whatever they want to do is fine with me."
Coach Mike D'Antoni did not play Marbury at all in the Knicks' season opener against Miami, but that does not mean that he will not see the court tonight in Philadelphia. D'Antoni suggested not playing Marbury is a move towards developing for the future, which will not include the former All-Star.
"It's what is best for the Knicks and our future," D'Antoni said. "I have to do that."

[ADD]

Just cut the guy, Christ. He can play and wants to.

[Lone Wolf]

This situation needs to end and end soon. The Knicks have a new coach, new gameplan, a new attitude and some bright young players like Robinson and Chandler and yet the focus is still on Marbury.

[Archangel]

Brand and Green are just raping the Knicks in the first half...


Oooooooh, nice reverse alley oop with Andre and Sammy.

[Archangel]

Oh, and League Pass Broadband International was some of the best €65 I've ever spent.

[Archangel]

18 points and 8 boards in 18 minutes?


Brand is certainly pulling his weight.

[Jericho]

Duh, he's a Dukie

[Archangel]

Go away.

[Jericho]

I thought you were a nuggets fan, motherfucker

[Archangel]

I've always liked the Sixers since I started following basketball, with the latter Barkley years. They're definitely my #2 favourite team in the league.

[Jericho]

Well, since I didn't see you the other night, How did Boozer's dick taste?

[Archangel]

:(

We certainly did a great job on defending Boozer tonight...

[Archangel]

Christ, but the Knicks' D sucks arse.

[Lone Wolf]

Brand always kills the Knicks and teams with a big man that can move are going to smoke the Knicks all year long, they just have no one to guard these guys

[STDSkillz]

Oh, and League Pass Broadband International was some of the best €65 I've ever spent.

What do you get with that? All the games, every night?

[Archangel]

Yep.

[Archangel]

Also, as far as I can see, we don't get those area blackouts because there are obviously no conflicts with local stations.

[Jericho]

Damn, that was crazy. This Raps/W's game is fucking bonkers

[Soup Nazi]

Unfortunately the OT was pretty lackluster.

[STDSkillz]

Also, as far as I can see, we don't get those area blackouts because there are obviously no conflicts with local stations.

Sounds like a deal. If I ever get out of college/get a job, I imagine I'll pick up an NBA pass. They've got some good rates around here.

[goldsoundz]

man the bulls need a post up player if they're ever going to get any consistency offensively. cause when those shots don't fall...well you saw it tonight. yikes.

[nuclearjew]

Nicolas Batum is the shit! This game has been very encouraging thus far.

[ADD]

The Bulls back to reality. At least Rose is good.

[BIG PIZZLE]

This SA/POR game is makeing me feel real good abou the lakers. God I love basketball.

[Pollo]

I thought you were a nuggets fan, motherfucker

Arch is about as committed to the Nuggets as Ricky is to the million of teams he supports.

[Da Raider]

This SA/POR game is makeing me feel real good abou the lakers. God I love basketball.


just remember that Manu is still out and the Spurs always go thru the motions until Feb.

[Archangel]

Arch is about as committed to the Nuggets as Ricky is to the million of teams he supports.

Not true. Broke dude like me, I'm not gonna spend $170 on a jersey if I'm not committed.

That said, while I'm glad about the win, Jesus jumpin' Christ, nobody did jack shit to stop anybody inside, AGAIN. Between Kaman, Thornton and Thomas, 65 points and 33 boards, with Thornton getting 7 OREBs?

What the fuck.

[STDSkillz]

K-Mart thinking he's goddamn Larry Bird doesn't help matters out, either.

[Pollo]

Not true. Broke dude like me, I'm not gonna spend $170 on a jersey if I'm not committed.

That said, while I'm glad about the win, Jesus jumpin' Christ, nobody did jack shit to stop anybody inside, AGAIN. Between Kaman, Thornton and Thomas, 65 points and 33 boards, with Thornton getting 7 OREBs?

What the fuck.

I've said this countless times to Soup, but believe me and listen: losing Marcus Camby is going to be a huge hit. I hear Soup's argument about Nene's defense, but the dude always gets injured and it's only a matter of time I'll be posting a Rotoworld note on him with something happening. if you think this was tough watching, wait until you face teams like NO or SA, teams with fast PGs that will abuse you driving to the hoop pouring on some layups.

I'm sure that's the Lakers' thinking today vs. Denver -- just pound it inside and draw some contact to get you guys into foul trouble since Kenyon or Nene aren't intimidating guys to face in the paint.

[ADD]

Losing Eduardo Najera is also going to hurt the Nuggets. As will not extending Linas Kleiza. He's basically David Lee part II when Summer hits.

[Soup Nazi]

Not true. Broke dude like me, I'm not gonna spend $170 on a jersey if I'm not committed.

That said, while I'm glad about the win, Jesus jumpin' Christ, nobody did jack shit to stop anybody inside, AGAIN. Between Kaman, Thornton and Thomas, 65 points and 33 boards, with Thornton getting 7 OREBs?

What the fuck.

C'mon Arch, this is not new stuff. We have always gotten destroyed inside, and until Nene can stay out of foul trouble we will continue to do so. Hell, we have been Tim Thomas's bitch since the 06 playoffs.

K-Mart thinking he's goddamn Larry Bird doesn't help matters out, either.

He's 1 for 2 on the season from 3! Go Kenyon! [/sarcasm] Seriously though, Kenyon gets a huge amount of blame for shooting a 3 to try to tie the game in Utah, but I give some blame to Karl for reportedly telling everyone in the huddle "Everyone can shoot a 3", and for AI passing it to him in the 1st place.

I've said this countless times to Soup, but believe me and listen: losing Marcus Camby is going to be a huge hit. I hear Soup's argument about Nene's defense, but the dude always gets injured and it's only a matter of time I'll be posting a Rotoworld note on him with something happening. if you think this was tough watching, wait until you face teams like NO or SA, teams with fast PGs that will abuse you driving to the hoop pouring on some layups.

I'm sure that's the Lakers' thinking today vs. Denver -- just pound it inside and draw some contact to get you guys into foul trouble since Kenyon or Nene aren't intimidating guys to face in the paint.

And I will repeat my argument, IF Nene stays healthy he is an upgrade overall over Camby. 22/11 and 3 blocks is not a complete fluke, this is the type of performance Nene can occasionally deliver. Actually creating some space on offense with an actual interior threat will help us more than Camby's weakside D. A lot of people don't realise this, but Denver was not exactly the offensive dynamo people made them out to be last year. Hell, I beleive if you adjust for pace, we were typically in the middle of the pack in all offensive categories. This team has never gotten easy baskets, and relied heavily on iso's, fastbreak and contested 3 pointer's to score. With some spacing, the "easy basket" could find a home for the first time in a decade, in Denver.

I've said this before, and I will say it again, I will always be a Camby fan. He was great in the lockerroom, in the community and was a geniune asset on the court. But everyone knows because of our style of play, he was overrated and his stats were inflated. When 3 players on each play are told NOT to go for rebounds and instead run to the outlets, 2 players are going to get inflated rebounding #'s they might not get otherwise. The guy was anemic on offense, and clearly was on the decline in the 2nd half of last season and the playoffs. He would still help on the weakside, against slashers and such, but there is no doubt in my mind that even with Camby we would still be having our interior troubles, since Camby NEVER has been able to guard interior big men.

As for the Lakers game tonight, I think most Nuggets fans already chalked up a loss before the season even started. As for the Lakers gameplan, I imagine it would be the same whether we had Camby or not. Camby is not exactly an intimidating force against big men either. Hell, I seem to remember a big man on LA going for 35+ in game 1 of the playoffs against Camby........

Losing Eduardo Najera is also going to hurt the Nuggets. As will not extending Linas Kleiza. He's basically David Lee part II when Summer hits.

I'll take Balkman over Najera at this point in their careers, and the Utah game further solidified my stance. As far as LK, I really hoped he will get extended and I think he will stay with the team once we drop about 21.1 million in payroll this offseason. Overall though, it depends on what he wants. 5 mil? Sure. 7-8 mil? No thanks. There is only a limited amount of $ you can spend on a backup SF/SG, which he will forever be as long as Melo and JR are in town (or AI this season). Supposedly he wanted 6.5 million per year, which is about 1.5 million more than Martell Webster and Jason Maxiell got. Is he worth 1.5 million per, more than Webster or Maxiell? Possibly, but on a team where he is never gonna average much more than 20 mpg, I don't know.

[Archangel]

I mean, let's put in perspective here. Even though we got fucked up by the opposition's big men, the whole team showed a lot of heart in both games so far. Taking it to the wire, in Utah, against the league's best home team? Hardly an embarrassing defeat. Being down by 18 in the 3rd before AI found his cojones, and winning in overtime? Takes heart.
And honestly, perimeter defence wasn't nearly as bad as I had feared, especially in the last game. Sure, they were without their best players, but then, so were we.

Also, I agree with Soup on Balkman. We will definitely miss Eddy's hustle on defence, but Balkman is probably better suited for transition offence.

[Pollo]

Soup, you may be right about Camby's defense vs. bigmen, but you can't deny by losing Camby, it gives all the reason for fast guards like Wade, Parker, Paul (to name a few) to just attack the paint and get those layups and draw contact. that was my main concern with the Camby trade, plus the value the Nuggets got back for him.

[Soup Nazi]

I mean, let's put in perspective here. Even though we got fucked up by the opposition's big men, the whole team showed a lot of heart in both games so far. Taking it to the wire, in Utah, against the league's best home team? Hardly an embarrassing defeat. Being down by 18 in the 3rd before AI found his cojones, and winning in overtime? Takes heart.
And honestly, perimeter defence wasn't nearly as bad as I had feared, especially in the last game. Sure, they were without their best players, but then, so were we.

Also, I agree with Soup on Balkman. We will definitely miss Eddy's hustle on defence, but Balkman is probably better suited for transition offence.

Yep. There is a slightly different swagger for the Nuggets this year that I have not seen since Melo's rookie season. Hell, George Karl has gotten a technical and has actually gotten off the bench! Something I haven't seen since his days in Milwaukee. Maybe its because no one expects anything from them, I don't know.

As for the perimeter D, it is never going to be good, but I place most of the improvement on JR who is actually showing effort out there on D for the first time in his career. He may not have the mechanics, or even the instincts, but if a guy with his natural athletic ability starts showing effort on D, opposing offenses will have to re-structure their gameplans.

EDIT: To Pollo = Definitely, because Camby was a very good weak side defender. We will have more of a problem with slashing guards then we have had in previous years, I fully admit that. But truth is, even with Camby that would still be somewhat true, because he is on the decline. 35 year old centers that rely on their athleticism don't age quite like wine. As for the trade value, I am 100% on your side. A trade exception? Thats pretty pathetic.

[Pollo]

EDIT: To Pollo = Definitely, because Camby was a very good weak side defender. We will have more of a problem with slashing guards then we have had in previous years, I fully admit that. But truth is, even with Camby that would still be somewhat true, because he is on the decline. 35 year old centers that rely on their athleticism don't age quite like wine. As for the trade value, I am 100% on your side. A trade exception? Thats pretty pathetic.

I forgot what the Nuggets got, but I'm pretty sure it was a conditional second round pick, right? I know the Lakers were interested in Camby prior to last season, and that Denver didn't want to move Camby unless LO was in some deal (or so I read in rumors). another thing to consider with his trade value is his health and durability ... he has never had one season where he's played 80+ games, and the last two years were the only stretch in his career where he's played 70+ games. but still, Denver should of gotten at least a decent player or two back in any return for arguably one of the best defensive centers in the league when healthy.

[Soup Nazi]

We didn't even get a conditional 2nd round pick, we got the right to swap 2nd rounders. So pretty much we got a trade exception, which we may never use. I would have at least liked a rotation player, or 2, but ownership wanted to dump salary so, oh well.

[Archangel]

Yeah, getting nothing for a 10-13-3 centre was pretty pathetic. But as far as losing value to the team, I'm with Soup here. Yes, Marcus was a terrific weak side defender. Yes, he did intimidate wing players going to the hole.

But a centre, on D, is supposed to guard the other guys' centre. And that was something that Marcus could never do. Actually, not true. He did early in his career, and when he did, he was injured around 40 games each season. Nenê might not be the most committed guy ever, but as far as pure body goes, he can actually keep a low post player from getting into his zone.

[Archangel]

Also, it's the Clippers. Rights to a draft pick? 2nd round? These guys drafted Olowokandi at #1, for fuck's sake.

[ADD]

I think it's the right to swap 2nd round picks. It was a salary dump. Denver needed cap space.

[Pollo]

even as a salary dump/swap of picks, Denver still got bent over hard in that deal. but I'm sure if he was dealt to a contender like the Lakers, Spurs, etc. -- Denver would of wanted much more.

I can't wait for this fucking game to start tonight and see me some Bynum domination.

[ADD]

The whole point was Denver didn't want anything in the deal. No salary coming back, nothing.

[Archangel]

The fuck is Iggy doing now, trying behind the back foolishness in the paint when the game's on the line?

[Jericho]

Danny Granger looks like kind of a badass

[Jericho]

I hate the Kings announcers. Grant Napear is a lame-o

[ADD]

Danny Granger looks like kind of a badass

Indeed. 5 year extension was smart on both sides.

[Archangel]

Melo's hair... wtf?

[ADD]

And the Sixers piss another one away down the stretch. WTF

[BIG PIZZLE]

How come the only game I can watch is Jazz v. Clippers. I hope the Clippers kill those eurofags.

[ADD]

Ok, Boston is mortal

[Archangel]

And apparently, getting rid of JO helped Indy...

[Jericho]

How come the only game I can watch is Jazz v. Clippers. I hope the Clippers kill those eurofags.
pfffffft

[Archangel]

How come the only game I can watch is Jazz v. Clippers.

Lulz.

http://i35.tinypic.com/sd2xkn.jpg


I hope the Clippers kill those eurofags


I always hope the Jazz lose, Euros or not...

[ADD]

And apparently, getting rid of JO helped Indy...

It helped them in many ways. I'm just not expecting anything this season. Nice win tonight though.

[wacker]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4498

Why am I only learning of this guy now?

[Archangel]

Birdman is making me not miss Camby's blocks.

[Jericho]

Birdman is making me not miss Camby's blocks.
You're an idiot.

[Archangel]

You're an idiot.

No, an optimist. Come on, us Nugs fans need to be.

And seriously, his two rejections thus far WERE pretty nice. I didn't say he's the player Marcus was.


Also, who are you, Face?

[ADD]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4498

Why am I only learning of this guy now?

Because you live under a rock (or in Canada)? He was a pretty nice player at UCLA

[Archangel]

Aaaand... third spike by Andersen in 1 1/2 quarters.

[Jericho]

No, an optimist. Come on, us Nugs fans need to be.

And seriously, his two rejections thus far WERE pretty nice. I didn't say he's the player Marcus was.


Also, who are you, Face?
He's not going to duplicate that nightly. Camby's swats will be sorely missed

[ADD]

Maybe the Nuggets will regret a 1 year deal when he bolts in the summer

[Archangel]

And gets summarily dunked on by Pau as a reward...

[ADD]

Any time Kobe wants to take this game over is fine with me. We all know how much he loves Colorado.

[Jericho]

Man, Korver can catch and shoot like a mother

[Pollo]

And gets summarily dunked on by Pau as a reward...

that was a pretty fucking sweet dunk, and the one Ariza attempted would of been great.

the Lakers aren't playing great (only shooting 33% compared to Denver's 48%), yet this game is tied.

[Archangel]

Holy crap, but Melo is cold.

[Archangel]

As happy as I am for AC, him scoring over 1/3 of the Nugs' points is not good for us.

[Pollo]

for LO, Radman, Kobe, Sasha, and Bynum to have 3 fouls plus using shooting below 35%, I'm amazed we've kept this game as close as it is.

[Archangel]

And Sasha obviously learned his whine face from Cristiano Ronaldo.

[Archangel]

for LO, Radman, Kobe, Sasha, and Bynum to have 3 fouls plus using shooting below 35%, I'm amazed we've kept this game as close as it is.

Many 2nd chance points also means that the first attempts aren't going in...

Nice run to close out the quarter. Dare I say it, pretty good D, too.

[Pollo]

... that plus Carmelo has yet to score in this game. still only to be down 6 plus playing like shit, I feel pretty good going into the second half.

[Archangel]

Somebody who regularly puts his feet under the jump shooter hoping to make him tear a ligament or something making a commercial about "where caring happens".

Fuck you, Bruce Bowen.

[Archangel]

Oh, and the Blunder looking really really bad v Houston right now...

[Soup Nazi]

No, an optimist. Come on, us Nugs fans need to be.

And seriously, his two rejections thus far WERE pretty nice. I didn't say he's the player Marcus was.


Also, who are you, Face?

Exactly. There is no doubt in my mind that Andersen can match Camby's block per game totals, especially if he was given anywhere near the same minutes as Camby was. The only problem is, that is pretty much all he does, and even he makes Camby look like Hakeem fuckin Olajuwon out there on offense.

Overall I like what I am seeing, and I think we have a good shot if either Melo starts up, or we can keep the Lakers in foul trouble. I must say though, this game is not quote as enjoyable when you have to contain yourself amongst a swarm of Lakers fans, and have to post on your iPhone.

And just like that Bynum with 4........excellent.

EDIT: Also, I am not quite sure about Melo's hair tonight, doesn't seem like the wisest choice.

[Pollo]

yeesh Carmelo, could you play any worse ... and now you foul Radman for 3 free throws?

[ADD]

Ok, at least this Bulls team can beat teams that should. That's already an improvement from last year.

In other news, how's everyone in OKC liking their "NBA franchise"?

[wacker]

Raps are 3-0, Boston who???

[shdaow]

In other news, how's everyone in OKC liking their "NBA franchise"?

I thought they got demoted to the D-League already?

[Jericho]

yeesh Carmelo, could you play any worse ... and now you foul Radman for 3 free throws?
I'd prefer you call him RadMobile.

[Jericho]

I thought they got demoted to the D-League already?
Stillll waiting on who you want for Boozer, guy.

[Jericho]

Why you ducking me, shdaow!!!!!!!!!!

[Rover]

Pistons versus Wizards was all offense tonight (117-109). I think the Pistons bench could make a run at the 8th seed in the East by themselves. Finally, Walter Herrman (16-7-4 23MP) is getting playing time under Curry. Flip drove me crazy last year with his player rotations and who got playing time.

And when Herrmann got hot in the 4th Curry played him to the end. You could set your watch to determine when Saunders used to sub players. No way does Herrmann finish that game for Saunders.

Amir Johnson plays too reckless and racks up fouls really quick. He needs to control himself a little bit.

[BIG PIZZLE]

Fuck yeah.

[Jericho]

shdaow, I will not be ignored!!

[Archangel]

Jesus Christ, way to piss away a game with bad shooting, fellas.

[Pollo]

Jesus Christ, way to piss away a game with bad shooting, fellas.

actually, you guys had a better FG% of 46 to the Lakers' 38 -- but damn the Lakers had 15 offensive rebounds to the Nuggets' 3 (even with the foul trouble Bynum had). Kobe just simply took over the 4th and the rest was history. plus, the Lakers adjusted to the ticky tack fouls the refs were calling on them in the first half, and they used it to their advantage going to the line 13 more times than Denver did in the game. awful game for Bynum, but Powell and Ariza stepped up big, especially Ariza ... who has 5 3's this year (he only has 9 3's in his previous seasons combined).

[Archangel]

Outside shooting percentage has to go up, stat.

[Archangel]

actually, you guys had a better FG% of 46 to the Lakers' 38. Kobe just simply took over the 4th and the rest was history. plus, the Lakers adjusted to the ticky tack fouls the refs were calling on them in the first half, and they used it to their advantage going to the line 13 more times than Denver did in the game. awful game for Bynum, but Powell and Ariza stepped up big, especially Ariza ... who has 5 3's this year (he only has 9 3's in his previous seasons combined).

All the good shooting early doesn't make up for bad 3s and forced jumpers late in the 4th...

[Jericho]

Hey pollo, is shdaow always this big of a gaylord in your league? Lemme know.

[Soup Nazi]

Outside shooting percentage has to go up, stat.

Some of those shots down the stretch were pretty pathetic. Hell, every shot by JR down the stretch was pretty pathetic.

Oh yeah, it was awfully nice for new look Melo to show up for the final 3 minutes........and thats it.

[Pollo]

this isn't surprising for Denver ... they aren't a patient team, and the second they got behind in the 4th with the Lakers rallying, they committed dumb fouls and just took shots that didn't look right at all, especially Kleiza.